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Yeah, I have to say it's like two different faces, because he's so emotionally attached (it's been 10 years, man), but at the same time when it comes to his work as an Emperor he does it very clear-headedly. All I can say that this had a huge psychological impact on him and Fang Zhu, the perpetuator but also friend certainly did not know and was not very helpful throughout his still-ongoing grieving process-know restoration of like, the sense of life at all.

I have to say, the opening score on Douban is completely unwarranted.

Novoland: Pearl Eclipse - 4.9

I usually really don't care about these Douban Scores for average-type dramas (I mean belonging in the category of fluff or just entertainment) because there are so many crazy overrating fans but also even more crazy antifans-Douban is messed up, fine. But I could understand why netizens were mad at Legend of Fei, understand The Rebel Princess' low score, even understand why people might be mad over The Long Ballad to a certain extent.

But what in the damn world has this show done so remotely wrong? I really feel like the complaints about age and such don't apply so well here because it seriously does not affect my viewership, while I can understand maybe why watching 'The Rebel Princess' would. The logic and writing are better overall compared to others of its genre. I can understand if a lot of people can't get through the first 6 episodes and give it an average score, but 4.9? I also waited to see if the disciple-teacher part would be executed well enough and it was.

I would say the lowest it would come out a 6.
How many shows are there worse than this one with much higher scores on Douban?
It's hard to piss me off with scores, but this is just unbelievable. The number of people who probably rated this without watching, or saying surface comments without understanding and watching. Oh my god. Other than scriptwriting and distribution of budget, anti-fans/overall community is the biggest problem covering Chinese Dramas. Yes,m people have to advocate for better writing and so on this that, but there are no bad or lesser genres and this one actually does pretty well. I seriously don't get it.

I agree, I'm pretty sure the extent to Hai Shi and the Emperor's interactions are just: Misunderstanding, ah cleared.
He does not like, think about her in any way and wants to marry off her Shifu to Qiqi-more concerned about him than her.
Any 'interest' he shows in her is more a reflection of his bitterness to the world.

Anyways, I mean they look nice together.

I am laughing so hard-
One of the hot searches on Weibo right now is (rough translation): #FallinLovechangescolourfilterinpostproduction

Basically because of netizen's comments about the current colour filter of the show they've changed the previous episodes' filter, and I think the future episodes will do that too.

At least it's improving, though.

Then why is he touching her forcefully? I'm pretty sure he's demonstrating the Baixi thing so she understands her shifu's perspective in that scene.

What can I say, I'll watch anything with Nini in it.

About the Emperor-

I think one of the most interesting characters is the Emperor, but that doesn't mean he's a great person. Come on-regardless of how he feels afterwards, he basically is choosing to hurt Tilan because she's basically originally sinned from looking like the love of his life he lost? Excuse me man, is this her fault?

As an Emperor, he has the power and I'm not going to go into power dynamic details here because I know lines kinda get blurry in everything, but would Tilan make other decisions (I'm saying SO FAR, by the way) if he wasn't the Emperor?

I love that he's such an interesting character and how he legit just wants Fang Zhu to kill him, but he also doesn't want to hurt his friend. His inner conflict is very fascinating because you can see that when things are serious, he really is serious. He does care about his people, and he actually does well as an emperor (other than the pearl tax thing). It's just to other people around him, he puts his own suffering onto others, because he feels resentful and wants people to feel the same/wants them to hate him too.

The funny thing is, I realized that he doesn't go crazy when he has important work, but he can't have too much important work either or else he'll get stressed again and start annoying the people around him, But when he's idle, the guy just tortures everyone. But then when it comes to the matters of his country he goes back into being sane, which I can see how there's that semblance of his old self.

Honestly, who can/who'd dare therapize the Emperor?
Ironically I think his resentful/hateful attitude also makes him a lot more clearheaded when it comes to what people say for what favours/their motives, so that's kind of helpful.

I still find that him finding out Tilan's personality is completely different and seeing Tilan as a different person is a nice progression.

But I don't stand behind this character yet. Great to see him on screen though. I would say that romance usually isn't the best therapy and that's unfair for the girl, but at the same time, these concepts don't exist in ancient times.

I think by their couple poster you can tell they're not supposed to be a purely romantic line later though.

I agree. But TLB also kind of suffered at the comic transitions, but I guess that's subjective to the viewer.
(Also, I dropped TLB so I can't remember battle scenes so much, just clips of future scenes here and there)

I've seen some viewers say that though they didn't really like 'The Rebel Princess', they had the best battle scenes (for the last few years in historical romances, that is).
One thing that made me iffy was that though I really enjoyed the episode 14 battle, I could not stand that they did not have a strand of hair out of place, ice/soot on their faces, or even a touch of blood.

Weak Link: Male Lead's Wig, OST. (Also, it's set-up isn't so good in the start)
Also Chen Weiting is actually pretty good in this role but I hope to the sky he perfects his accent and does his own voiceovers lol. But this one is pretty matching, I'm used to it now.
I love how the main cast are all their own voices.
And yes, Mu Deqing-poor man.

No idea... in fact I think the show got better as it went on. I thought it was super average in the start but I thought it became more unique as the episode went on-but maybe the score is evening out as more people watch it.

Wait, who are you referring to?

I'm pretty sure her OTP has always been Fang Zhu, but not even sure if they end up together based on what I read.
The emperor doesn't like her, ever. (Fang Zhu I think asks the Emperor to take care of her but the Emperor's OTP is Tilan)

I agree, I'm praying the scriptwriter (who's been getting a fair share of praise recently) won't fall into the common traps of storytelling-
I really want a good drama.

From the other comment, just try past 6-8. I've read a bunch of comments and I think most people find that the first 6 episodes are plain, but others think the plot picks up only after 8. I would generally say if you already binge past the 10 episode mark it might not be for you haha, rather not waste your time.

He doesn't like her, and he won't, either. The male lead will ask him to take care of her, but he's still with Tilan.

I think I'm in the minority who doesn't think he's very handsome haha. But I think his acting is pretty acceptable in terms of the other actors of his generation, and he does look pretty good in historical armor.

I keep thinking about this drama, and I have no idea why it's not a genius production. But I've got some ideas:

1. I really have been waiting for a historical romance for a long time (though I watched more modern settings shows, my true love really lies in historical haha)

2. There aren't too many plot holes, the logic is alright
Speaking of which, I have to say that the first episode's introduction progression was messy and though I liked the younger actress, I felt like her scenes weren't completely well-acted out (with weird dialogue). But it was fine because I usually take the first few episodes as slumber episodes and I don't have a problem splitting dramas into 'let's forget' parts and 'here's where it starts' parts.

3. I realized that I like the setup a lot. The lead's chemistry is not the strongest I've ever seen, but I think they actually did act their roles out pretty well this time (I was genuinely very surprised about Yang Mi this time), which I felt made their storyline very interesting and still keeping me on my toes

4. Continuing from above, I usually get more bored as soon as the leads get together because the writing sometimes slacks of (or just gives the audience outside force after force wanting to ruin the relationship) which gets tiring after a while, yet I really like the current pace-their relationship and recognition for each other is a reward for the audience, and cannot be so easily be given.

5. I also think the script is actually substantially better here than other romance historicals in general, and I love that episode 14 battle scene immensely.

Overall, it is actually pretty good. I didn't have high hopes, but I really do hope it becomes more and more popular from here on.

*I forgot,

5. Each of the characters (main pair, second pair, third pair) is all interesting and all have their own personalities and realistic reactions to different situations. Also, they don't exist just as a tool to show something in another character and have lives outside their main arc (pairing). They also just are pretty well written. I really like the subversion of certain tropes as well. Going into the show without reading the novel, I was totally expecting the Emperor to like her, but it's great that the female lead doesn't just have some unexplainable halo.

I also have to say that I feel like having a whole 'emperor liking the lead' subplot is also very attractive but hard to pull off. The first few episodes where there's suspense within the plot are always really interesting, but it actually wears out very easily as it gets revealed and so on-I haven't seen a lot of shows be able to pull that arc well (when the Emperor isn't the male lead)-whether it's the emperor liking someone else after, or the emperor dying (tool for another plot), or something.

Congratulations to TLB, I know many people liked it.
Not changing my mind, the storyline wasn't my taste, but it can still be great without me liking it. I'll also add that some of the costumes were great. I love Dilraba, but I am worried about her posture as someone who understands back problems- sometimes she stands a bit slouched and her head too downwards, but other than, everyone's form and acting for this historical was pretty good.

Unlike others I actually haven't seen THIS particular trope before about ex-relationships (but it seems so unnecessarily dramatic for a drama marketed to be realistic, man)

Agree that HCS is hella annoying-bro, like-honestly so she has no conscience or what?
I know she's a trope as well to highlight female lead, but.
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As for the Paris thing-
...I liked Encounter, What's Up with Secretary Kim, etc, but you know, I didn't expect K-Dramas to take the joke of 'it's not a k-drama unless there's a secret past' seriously.

I really believe there's a problem because you don't need leads to have some sort of secret touching action they did for the other lead for them to like each other more-that's completely unrealistic in real life. it's nice to just see how they bond and work out personality differences and what attracts them to each other, not needing to have to tie to some sort of past because that actually makes it seem more like fascination and feeling moved than being actually interested in the other.

It's actually a more plot-packed interesting episode than the first, and I'll still continue for now (it's not horrible, just average, and the leads look good)

but I did realize what I felt was slightly off about SHK's acting. It's that she doesn't act horribly, it's just that she doesn't feel like her character because a lot of dialogue she says seems very much like she's spewing out a lecture and not with any nuances or emotion of the character's feelings. For example, when she's talking about how it's okay to just be a designer under a brand, definitely something missing there.

The leads have acceptable chemistry, though.
The influencer also annoyed me a lot more than Hwang Chi-Sook this episode. Also, can someone explain to me Shin Min-Jung's deal and what she knows, and her relationship with the male leads? Also, is she a playing a big star in this show?

Yes, Sa Ding Ding!