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Has acting chops, had great scenes in Vincenzo. I didn't even realize he had his cameo in It's Okay not to be Okay until recently; my jaw dropped when I realized it was HIM. Also, good looks. A main role soon? Full Support.

Better finish the first before the second comes out then! (Though that'll be a while)
Excited! Even though I have no idea what happened!

Well, technically so far Han-Seok has also only asked her kill a bunch of people too, so... maybe she has other skills not put to good use. I personally think her facial expressions are awesomely hatable.

Ah, well- Han Seok said he doesn't need a lawyer, but someone who can be the devil for him (He liked to feel like God, Remember).
In the recent episodes, we see her motivation is to please H-S as he's not so pleased with the latest outcomes. I think that being so comfortable in corruption for so long, siding with H-S was out of fear (well, who wants to die), but she has honed into her evil side a lot more comfortably through the episods. I don't think anyone likes killing really (except Han-Seok, but she's not a psychopath, she's just a corrupt evil prosecutor who's pretty good at her job too)- but can sleep well enough at night. I mean, all that says is that she doesn't have that much of a guilty conscience and that she really is fit for the money-and-power-makes-all world.

I think it helped that I didn't have a previous impression of SJK. I'm glad Vincenzo was my introduction to him, because he did really well here. But yeah...I mean, I underestimated him too.

I agree with many comments-
As soon as Prosecutor Yang walked into the classroom, my mind went 'Oh-How to get away with murder!'
P. Yang is definitely charismatic.
I really like the plot so far, and it doesn't have big flaws. I hope it gets a teensy bit more interesting, however, and it seems it's on the same page of other shows of its genre.
However, it hasn't flunked itself, and it's still gripping me.
I also do not completely understand Yang voluntarily wearing the anklet. I probably just didn't read it well, however.
The OSTS in the background is also great.
And yeah- the timelines are a bit weird but so far I've been able to keep up (I also kept pausing and replaying when they were talking about all those cases in school)
I was like- wait, Kim is a boy, so Choi is a girl, oh-
and so far the only thing I remember is
'he stands by the fifth'
But I also do not remember whatever the fifth is. I know it's related to pleading innocence, though.
Hope everyone gives it a try!

Completely! I also read your comment below. I think it's a little twitch that makes me want to mention its flaws, though I do love the show nevertheless. And literally, I also really felt the Geumga cast were fillers in the start. I was, admittedly, not their greatest fan. I'm very glad that the writer has made use of their mysterious background concept and have made a family theme running through them-however, I still believe they could be introduced better. There still isn't much logic behind their acting in the first episode. Correct- at first, I was skeptical about Korea. I know Vincenzo being a Korean who was raised in Italy has a sense of exoticness/foreign-ness which is interesting, and of course there are uses of certain stereotypes. I was fine with that because it is a pretty interesting plot (unless they badly represented Italy). I actually kind of like how the plot hasn't been solely focused on the gold, because he in the latest episodes currently seems more Korean (like a whole badass Korean lawyers layout) which makes it seem less strange. However, the plot also makes fun of itself, I think, and doesn't take itself too seriously-in the first few episodes, the Intelligence was talking about why a mafia would come to Korea, haha. One thing I really like was their portrayal of Korean corruption. I do like those shows more as it doesn't portray SK as completely glitzy and beautiful.

I forgot to mention (as a comment above has mentioned), that Vincenzo is half-dark comedy. SJK really does the comedy aspect well. I love Hyun-Bin, but I think what did it for me is that I really think that Hyun Bin is less suited for comedy- it's not so much his forte. Comedy is very important in the series, and acts and chemistry between many cast members.

Actually, I can understand your sentiment. Obviously, everyone has their own biases too. Before I watched Vincenzo, I looked at the poster and thought-well, the poster and the vibe looks and feels good, but SJK seems to have a baby face. I also didn't watch any SJK dramas previously, Vincenzo is my first. I actually just watched 'The Negotiation' and 'Confidential Assignment' recently, so I was thinking as I watched the Italy scenes in the first 15 minutes, well, I wonder which Korean actor would be able to seem Italian? Personally, I have always agreed with the sentiment that Hyun Bin is more suited with a rugged look rather than his CLOY look (even though I do love CLOY). With his darker vibe in Confidential Assignment and swagger in The Negotiation, I really felt that Hyun Bin could have a shot, added to the fact that in western cultures, beards/moustaches/goatees are the norm, while the Asian beauty standard prefers the concept of cleanliness and therefore clean-shaven men. SJK in Vincenzo is obviously clean-shaven all the way. Of course, this is a K-Drama in Korean Standards so I understood they would not just make changes like that. I also do agree that his hairstyling in certain episodes wasn't the best, but you see-
Now I can also disagree. I still think that it would be super cool to see different actors' take on the character of Vincenzo, but not that SJK isn't suited for the role. Of course, this comes after I've watched 16 episodes, so I'm much more used to seeing his face on screen now.
However, what makes a character seemingly believable is also to do with acting, not just the appearance. Definitely, a much too unconvincing appearance will do only negatives. In this case, SJK may not seem to be best suited initially, but I think his acting convinced me he was Vincenzo, whether being his gaze, voice tone, way of speaking- etc.
By the way, I was quite surprised that SJK's voice was so much deeper, as I presumed it would be around average, even higher. I also think that you have to put learning Italian into the bag as well.
Either way, I still understand your opinion. I share some of your sentiments, but SJK has played Vincenzo brilliantly so far.
Of course, every show has its flaws. Personally, I like this show enough to overlook them.

Haha, I think most people, me included, were put off by her. I felt that Vincenzo took off in episode 4, and so did her character. Now I really do love her. Actually, this point really is what made me not rate it higher- because I dropped the show after 2 episodes in initially.

I wrote a bit of my thoughts in a comment above yours, actually, if you're interested. I'm also on e who doesn't prefer violence haha, so I get what you mean. I'm very surprised the tag is there-hope I did not mislead you.

When I finished watching it I immediately thought- well, it's not a movie I regret watching at all, but I understand why it won't get a high score.
(This type of movie)
It gives you the whole award-winning (in those festivals) type of vibe.
The entire movie is a mood- it's like you're watching a drowsy slow dance of two people waltzing around in front of a curtain of their hotel room and you see the shadows flicker by the candlelight.
Also, the depressing color filter is really strong- blues and greens, and yellows are highlighted.
Actors speak mostly in that strained, quiet, tired-of-life voice.
It's not chemistry, but a depressing mutual understanding. The entire movie seriously seems like you went to a concert and listened to a sad piece, and when it's over, the music stays with you. Because of that, I do understand why most people would leave the movie feeling a bit- well, empty, or just confused, but not really-just the entire feeling of the movie.
I personally thought it was very interesting though, and it was kind of beautiful, and tragic, but also peaceful. I have no idea how to feel about that.
Not actually 'paradise' though, but sure is a Night.

I have just watched it, and there aren't any animal deaths to my knowledge, or it was in the background and wasn't obvious. There is a lot of (human) blood and punching and all, though.

ohh, thanks for the interesting fact

Vincha, Chacenzo eliminated~

Wait, how did I also miss the fact that there's a flipping suicide bomber in front of a Babel Tower presentation-action packed next episode, it seems!
Oh, and it looks like Choi Myung-Hee might? have some conflict with Jang Han-Seok, but they also look like they're teaming up well together, so!
Also, what letter is Cha-Young holding and I cannot for the life of me read Korean.

Episode 17 Trailer:
1. I see staff wheeling a huge white cake and the Bye Bye Balloon cast acting as undercover staff- Probably not someone's wedding, so it might be Babel's celebration of something, but I could be totally wrong here. If being undercover is related, it means they'll probably yet again get the whole Geumga cast to be undercover helpers and crash some event.
2. Mr. Jo is being held hostage-by who? Babel? Is this how they find out about information on the gold and Guillotine File?
3. Scene of a bloodied man lying face down wrapped in white, and a tear rolling down Cha-Young's cheek-related to Vincenzo? Did one of the Geumga Plaza Members die?
4. Jang Han-Seok's ear is bandaged- did Vincenzo shoot the bottom of his ear (ending of Episode 16)

I am very confused.
Sigh

I know what you mean, and I also agree with your other reply to someone else in the thread-I also worry as most dramas need someone to act as contrast against characters to make them stand out in certain aspects whether it's intelligence or bravery, etc.

I basically read your review's first and last paragraph, because I'm also inclined to watch this for Jeon Yeo-been because of Vincenzo. (Actually, I watched Save Me because she was a supporting cast there). I started reading off the first paragraph and saw some spoiler keywords so \I've decided to watch it first and then read your review, haha. Either way, I'm so glad to have found Jeon Yeo-been after Vincenzo.

Thanks for clarifying-it is a Chinese traditional perspective.
I don't find his character irritating either, or at least his conflict of interests was presented quite clearly to me. Interesting to see that it's been brought up. His set up and conflictss agree with what is faced of men in that era- opinions against him, most of all his family, their life and death, honor, the role as head of the family, conversations with his father- I mean, even if he doesn't care about what people think of him people will still talk about his family, and his family isn't powerful enough to go against the emperor, so it's their life and death-the way he interacted with Changge after all that happened was what puzzled me, however(I felt like he just kept going back and forth). I think he dubbed the character himself (the actor)- that's one thing I liked, because his voice has this tonal quality that's different from other subbing, which sets him apart.
I agree about Changge-halfheartedly, not because I'm halfhearted about your comment, though. I didn't pay much attention to Changge because I was expecting it to be following the flow of most Chinese historical/slight fantastical dramas. So for me, I watched it, but didn't analyze her as I went along, Her reactions after everything that has happened seem quite reasonable to me so far, however.