Even though he was the trigger of everything that came after Choel’s murder
You are the one that's totally missing the clear clues. KM spoke kindly to everyone in the show even when he was killing them he told them the reason why. He wasn't unnecessarily violent with anyone but gave them a chance to repent or just gave his judgment as he saw fit.
You seem confused because the only one you are extending empathy to is JS. Where is your empathy for Cheoli's mum who was begging the female detective to arrest the person who killed her son. This is the biggest difference btwn KM and JS. When KM got the chance he went to see Cheoli's mum but when JS is asked to apologize he lacks any ounce of remorse but self-preservation.
You either lack analytic skills, or comprehension skills or you're just caught up in your ignorance. He didn't choose to die but died because he continued to be in denial. He was cornered and how long was he going to hold on when gravity was pulling the other end? There's a reason why KM jumped off the ledge, to trap JS. Once trapped there was no way out for him, his time was up.
Even though he was the trigger of everything that came after Choel’s murder
The female cop may have been annoying because all her behaviour is somehow unrealistic but she is the only one who wasn't fooled by JS. She believed KM and even sought opinion to get justice for Cheoli's death. She even says to JS's face you were a kid, but that doesn't excuse murder or wrong doing. We see her telling Cheoli's mum the truth and didn't try to pretend that JS was a hero. So in some way she is the voice of reason for the show.
Even though he was the trigger of everything that came after Choel’s murder
I don't know if you read books but this story reminded me alot of a novel called A Grain of Wheat by an African author from Kenya (Ngugi wa Thiong) . JS reminds me of a "hero" in that book called Mugo who everyone thought was a true hero but he betrayed the true hero. He was about to be given the highest honours for being fearless but he finally confesses that he is the one that betrayed the hero and they kill him as atonement.
Even though he was the trigger of everything that came after Choel’s murder
The problem with your theory is that you are still trying to disprove things that are explicitly mentioned and spoken by Jong Suk himself in EP10-12. He tells us the reason for his actions and this is not because he was mentally ill at all but wanted to sacrifice Cheoli because the bullying wld never end. Even Kyun min tells him that I followed you and heard all the conversations you had with Cheoli, when Jong Suk tries again to explain away his behaviour. He uses the trust the other cops have in him to try and cover his 20 year secret.
Towards the end of E10 is especially painful because Cheoli told him that no one wld be able to touch him if he becomes a policeman and that's the same dream that Jong Suk stole.Jong Suk questioned Cheol about the change of mind. He didn't buy the reason but he went with it though but you can see the hesitation of Cheol's request to him. In his mind, he's thinking.. yes you're doing public show of trying to commit sucide but then what? Even if Cheol assured Jong Suk it will stop the bullying, that they will not be touch anymore, that the pig will be afraid and think twice (ep 8 part of the eplaining why he wanted to die). They can move on they'll become policemen and even ask Jong Suk to join him. But Jong Suk mindset is not same as Kyung Min. The latter is always... lets tough it it 2 more years and will get out of the nighmare .. type of suffering.
In EP11, Jong Suk is now aware who Cheoli after the woman detective tells him he had his handwriting analysed and its him who wrote the note. His reaction was to say no one would believe a serial killer and yet the female detective believed Kyun Min's version of events. He further lies to the police and convinces them he wld drive Kyun Min and clearly runs off the car out of the road, into that dam but before that he cracks open the window to ensure his escape and leaves KM to drown so he can die with the secret. He even lowered the volume in the room so his colleagues couldn't hear their connection, he plots to drive using route 42 for some reason. Fortunately, KM had planned it all well that they would end up at the school.
Before he surrenders KM visits KM's mum and gives her a loving parental bow and a bag full of cash. KM's surrender is to reveal the truth of that day and get JS to admit and own up to his selfish act. Even KM says that JS pushed Cheoli without hesitation. There are so many clues given to show JS's character not as honourable as we all believed.
You should rewatch EP10 - 12, there are so many clues ...he was asked if he would be able to hide it all and his reply " who would believe the story of mad killer" but then he was shown panicking over the comments on social media. So yeah, in that moment it was clear he wanted to protect himself. The fact that the female detective said there was a witness spooked him even further.
He only died because he refused to apologize and tell the world what had happened but Kyun Min gave him a chance...tell the world, and apologize to Cheoli's mum but he still refused. So he signed his ticket to hell. Whether it's concrete or asphalt it fits the purpose of what the author was trying to convey to us. It was judgment day and Kyun Min was the judge and executioner whether Jong Suk wanted it or not time was up for his lie.
Even though he was the trigger of everything that came after Choel’s murder
Did we watch the same show? All motives and intentions were fully exposed and explained in EP11 & 12 by the character himself. The author allows you to feel sympathy for him up to there but it becomes clear that he is hiding something. Up until that point he may have been in denial and tried to shirk responsibility for his actions. But he says he was not going to fall apart like KM because he knows many powerful people unlike KM, when asked if he felt any guilt he says why should he when it's something that happened 20 years ago totally ignoring and dismissing the pain of Cholie's mum who was still mourning her son 20 years later.
He was force-fed to the concrete, it was because Kyung Min literally hand-cuffed him and dragged him with but even at the last moment he was still in denial. He wasn't given an option. It was guilt that made him anxious and had to take medication. Neither the anime nor mahwa suggests that he was mentally ill, maybe an idealist and errant disciple of Cheoli who took the Pig ideology to the extreme and didn't want his "savior" to change but fully expected him to sacrifice himself for them like he usually did.
Even though he was the trigger of everything that came after Choel’s murder
The only grey character in the series is Kyung Min who embodies being a serial killer and being a great boss, husband and seems to take care of everyone around him except the bullies.His first kill is a pedo,he pays hospital fees for a bullied victim. Isn't this what superheros embody.He only wanted Jong Suk to acknowledge what he did to Cholie.
In E11 & 12, Jong Suk is very clear that he is not ready to give up all that he has earned through lies and manipulation that's his main motivation for wanting to get rid of Kyung Min.He doesn't even want the courts to deal with it, he lies. Even the reasons he sacrifices Cholie are purely self preservation.
Such a heavy, sad trauma trauma-filled drama. NGL it had me in tears in some scenes. It hits very hard and has…
I have zero sympathy for the cop, he was just a fake friend. He tried to get rid of Kyung Min when confronted with the truth. He just didn't want to face the truth as an adult as well. He could have just apologized even when confronted by the female cop about the diary and the letter but he choose to continue acting like a self righteous upstanding saviour. He was jelouse of Cholie and even stole his dream of being an officer. He was angry that Cheolie wanted to change and become a good student. Heresented that Cheoli said he was not a messiah but while dear cop guy desperately wanted a saviour and to be a disciple of something.
I have more respect for Kyung Min and his suicide mission at least he had a reason for each of his little actions, in the end he is the justice that we need. Took him straight to hell and he tasted the concrete.
Even though he was the trigger of everything that came after Choel’s murder
I think you missed how he tried to get rid of Kyung Min when confronted with the truth. He just didn't want to face the truth as an adult as well. He could have just apologized even when confronted by the female cop about the diary and the letter but he choose to continue acting like a self righteous upstanding saviour. He was jelouse of Cholie and even stole his dream of being an officer. He was angry that Cheolie wanted to change and become a good student. Heresented that Cheoli said he was not a messiah but while dear cop guy desperately wanted a saviour and to be a disciple of something.
I have more respect for Kyung Min and his suicide mission at least he had a reason for each of his little actions, in the end he is the justice that we need. Took him straight to hell and he tasted the concrete.
Such a heavy, sad trauma trauma-filled drama. NGL it had me in tears in some scenes. It hits very hard and has a bit of blood and gore.
I think the ML(cop) being under constant confusion and far from reality takes away from the message of the show. He doesn't know which version of the truth to believe. I also don't know if a person who pops so many pills or has delusions is even allowed to handle a weapon and be a cop. He is a danger to himself and society.
I watched this 10+ year old drama for Dennis Oh and my eyes did not regret gazing upon his handsome face and such a great smile as well. As for everything else, it's a drama that stays true to the era of spineless, angelic, dumb females and those who mindlessly chase & fight over men.
I think there is a longer version with 36 episodes but someone spared us the trauma and these 20 episodes are enough. Thank heavens.
One of the best well-written c-dramas. The SFL back story was very sad, as a girl child who was not loved or appreciated by her mother but was seen as a means to an end. All the scenes where she speaks about the treatment she received at home is a reality for most women in Asia who exist to make the lives of their brothers/male relatives better. In the end, you really can't hate her as she ends up trying to clean up her act.
I hate that the FLs in this type of dramas are always made to be virtuous, forgiving angels who can't even express their anger. Also, the timeline is a little bit off, I'm not sure you can launch a business and become an industry leader in 1 year.
Great drama but this was sad to watch in light of the real teacher crisis in South Korea in 2023, where teachers have to unalive themself because of students' parents. Sad that parents get to act like this just so their already privileged kids get more privilege. Sad to have to live with so much pressure.
I'm more of a bookworm and I started going to the library with my sister when I was four. I do speed read but enjoy some genres in a leisurely pace ( for example memoirs/biographies). I think it depends with someone's interests and I'm generally a sponge kind of person that finds random facts interesting and am generally curious about life in general. So I will go out of my way to find information just for fun.I've surprised myself sometimes (lol). I like too many things and need a 48 hour day to fit all. I'm in my late 20's.
What's a normal speed? My brain is wired that way and as long there are subtitles I don't miss anything.Besides most Asian dramas like Thai Lakorn, Kdramas all have white space that adds nothing to the story. I don't have to watch people cry or shout or think long & hard. So I'm fine.
I have a lot of catching up to do, so many dramas to watch but so little time. Miyamoto is actually one of the few characters that I remember out of all the many movies I watched. Weak but willing to stand up for what's right.The screaming and weird fighting antics was funny but the subject matter really sad.
I was like let me check it out for ten minutes to see but I found myself watching the whole 16 episodes. Wow, It's a mixture of makjang, suspense, and a gripping story. I could guess some of the mystery but I guess the story of the little girl kept me going and wanting to find out her revenge. I just had to see just how evil these people really were. The political parts were boring but the important thing is I could continue watching it. Oh, and it reminds you of " How to Get Away with Murder" the Korean version
You seem confused because the only one you are extending empathy to is JS. Where is your empathy for Cheoli's mum who was begging the female detective to arrest the person who killed her son. This is the biggest difference btwn KM and JS. When KM got the chance he went to see Cheoli's mum but when JS is asked to apologize he lacks any ounce of remorse but self-preservation.
You either lack analytic skills, or comprehension skills or you're just caught up in your ignorance. He didn't choose to die but died because he continued to be in denial. He was cornered and how long was he going to hold on when gravity was pulling the other end? There's a reason why KM jumped off the ledge, to trap JS. Once trapped there was no way out for him, his time was up.
Towards the end of E10 is especially painful because Cheoli told him that no one wld be able to touch him if he becomes a policeman and that's the same dream that Jong Suk stole.Jong Suk questioned Cheol about the change of mind. He didn't buy the reason but he went with it though but you can see the hesitation of Cheol's request to him. In his mind, he's thinking.. yes you're doing public show of trying to commit sucide but then what? Even if Cheol assured Jong Suk it will stop the bullying, that they will not be touch anymore, that the pig will be afraid and think twice (ep 8 part of the eplaining why he wanted to die). They can move on they'll become policemen and even ask Jong Suk to join him. But Jong Suk mindset is not same as Kyung Min. The latter is always... lets tough it it 2 more years and will get out of the nighmare .. type of suffering.
In EP11, Jong Suk is now aware who Cheoli after the woman detective tells him he had his handwriting analysed and its him who wrote the note. His reaction was to say no one would believe a serial killer and yet the female detective believed Kyun Min's version of events. He further lies to the police and convinces them he wld drive Kyun Min and clearly runs off the car out of the road, into that dam but before that he cracks open the window to ensure his escape and leaves KM to drown so he can die with the secret. He even lowered the volume in the room so his colleagues couldn't hear their connection, he plots to drive using route 42 for some reason. Fortunately, KM had planned it all well that they would end up at the school.
Before he surrenders KM visits KM's mum and gives her a loving parental bow and a bag full of cash. KM's surrender is to reveal the truth of that day and get JS to admit and own up to his selfish act. Even KM says that JS pushed Cheoli without hesitation. There are so many clues given to show JS's character not as honourable as we all believed.
You should rewatch EP10 - 12, there are so many clues ...he was asked if he would be able to hide it all and his reply " who would believe the story of mad killer" but then he was shown panicking over the comments on social media. So yeah, in that moment it was clear he wanted to protect himself. The fact that the female detective said there was a witness spooked him even further.
He only died because he refused to apologize and tell the world what had happened but Kyun Min gave him a chance...tell the world, and apologize to Cheoli's mum but he still refused. So he signed his ticket to hell. Whether it's concrete or asphalt it fits the purpose of what the author was trying to convey to us. It was judgment day and Kyun Min was the judge and executioner whether Jong Suk wanted it or not time was up for his lie.
He was force-fed to the concrete, it was because Kyung Min literally hand-cuffed him and dragged him with but even at the last moment he was still in denial. He wasn't given an option. It was guilt that made him anxious and had to take medication. Neither the anime nor mahwa suggests that he was mentally ill, maybe an idealist and errant disciple of Cheoli who took the Pig ideology to the extreme and didn't want his "savior" to change but fully expected him to sacrifice himself for them like he usually did.
In E11 & 12, Jong Suk is very clear that he is not ready to give up all that he has earned through lies and manipulation that's his main motivation for wanting to get rid of Kyung Min.He doesn't even want the courts to deal with it, he lies. Even the reasons he sacrifices Cholie are purely self preservation.
I have more respect for Kyung Min and his suicide mission at least he had a reason for each of his little actions, in the end he is the justice that we need. Took him straight to hell and he tasted the concrete.
I have more respect for Kyung Min and his suicide mission at least he had a reason for each of his little actions, in the end he is the justice that we need. Took him straight to hell and he tasted the concrete.
I think the ML(cop) being under constant confusion and far from reality takes away from the message of the show. He doesn't know which version of the truth to believe. I also don't know if a person who pops so many pills or has delusions is even allowed to handle a weapon and be a cop. He is a danger to himself and society.
I think there is a longer version with 36 episodes but someone spared us the trauma and these 20 episodes are enough. Thank heavens.
I hate that the FLs in this type of dramas are always made to be virtuous, forgiving angels who can't even express their anger. Also, the timeline is a little bit off, I'm not sure you can launch a business and become an industry leader in 1 year.
Overall a very good drama.