I don’t about others but for me Jina should be end up alone. I mean she deserves to be a independent woman in…
Agree, while JI has good reason to think that she shd stood up on her feet rather than keep simping over HK who keep running away from everything & being miserable for it, it's not his relationship to decide. He shd be at least let Ji Na know about HK, but then again I get that he had HK feeling to consider so he seems to be trapped in a complicated situation where he pity one person, care another yet couldn't ignore it himself.
I hope this will be the road for JN to become independent, learn her worth & have self respect. However, as for her future partner, I'm still optimist JI will still make a good partner for her. He makes mistake yes, but he's the type of person who want to face his problem. I believe they can talk it through. Tho I'd be fine as well if she stay single, anything but her getting back together with HK.
Watching this drama does feels like hearing Joey's written speech for Monica & Chandler's wedding (from Friends) when he use thesaurus in his attempt to sound "smart". His original speech: "They're warm, nice people with big hearts."
After using Thesaurus: "They're humid, prepossessing Homo sapiens with full-sized aortic pumps."
So when they show all those glorious dramatic kissing & supposed to be heartbreaking scenes for the main couple, I feel nothing. And I hv the same expression as Chandler's having right there. :)))
As for the 2nd couple story, I might be feeling frustated, annoyed at some characters, etc, but at least they make me feel something & intrigue to know how they'd end their story than the main's.
It's been blue from the beginning of the series...
He had to dyed his hair every two weeks to maintain its color, that's how it changes. He mentioned it in one of their interviews how he's worried for going bald because of it x))
SJ action is no way using JG is your opinion, I respect that. But my opinion was different. We have different perspective, what you think won't matters for you, were matters for me, etc, so yeah it's pointless to prolong this discussion when we value/ take things differently, let's agree to disagree.
So let me ask you a question, if you find out how a guy you barely knew keep following you & trying to get close to you on purpose of provoking other people will you be feeling pleased & comfortable? If so, then we surely have different std then & I don't think I need to say anything more.
Like I said earlier, you shdn't take the whole 16 ep arc of SJ to compare with the SML here, my OP take is only from the first 4 ep how they have similiar intention. You keep bringing the whole Seo Jun's arc liking JG in a much later ep which never been in the context. I also said that it can also be revealed later if the SML here improved & turned nice, if you compare ppl then give them fair share 4 ep to 4 ep.
In case you don't read it, I've said to other user too (@prettyelsiablah ) way long before this whole long discussion start, how it could be just because my different taste of men or could be just because his first impression last on me more than it should & she understand. So idg all the fuss & why this whole long talk was needed, gosh.
Oh my you clearly have your own interpretation in mind. I said I dislike the SML here because he reminds me of SJ, yes. I never like typical bad boys yes. The way SJ treat the FL as a tool for his revenge I clearly explain it, he's trying to get close to the FL with that intention in mind, just like the SML did here with his bet in mind. I'd be as bothered if I know a person I barely knew getting close to me for a bet or because he want to use me to provoke other people. It's your problem if you can't take it as him took her as a tool, not mine.
I said I never liked bad boys in the context of my taste of men for love interest. But as a person to person I can see that SJ character has evolved throughout the series & actually a good guy beneath, I acknowledge that thus why I said I like him too in that context, but still I won't like him enough to choose him as love interest. I never twisted my words but you are the one who twisted my words from your very little understanding of mine, judge me & excalates everything more than it should.
There's obviously a different take of my OP was about.
I already said that I never like this kind of bad boys, they're not my type. Both SML use the FL in some way in their initial ep & that undoubtly so. I've even explain if this happens in real life most ppl would upset upon knowing it too, you just don't want to accept my explanation, that's fine.
But I never said anything about judging the SML as a whole, or in this case Seo Jun as a whole, I never said that he's overall a bad person, didn't I? You're assuming thing when I never implied anything.
My point is Both SML has similiar traits from the first 4 ep.
SML turned into a better person & has a good heart beneath: SJ proves it while SML.dude here haven't yet to explore or prove to be so, we're still at their 4th ep.
I like SJ as a character in the later ep even if he's not my type just like you did with Suho, although not to the point of shipping the FL with him, just like you might as well if the SML here show improvement, so I really don't get why you had to take this on a whole new level when it's just a matter of different perspective or different taste of men. It's just my take, my opinion regarding the characters. You may leave it as it is just like I did with yours.
The way I see it you keep looking at SJ with some special glasses & keep giving him more excuse after excuse, it's just his initial impression, it's just on some of the scenes, etc so clearly I don't see any of this discussion will come to fruitful & I honestly don't care whether you take SJ like that or not. I have no intention to change your mind.
In conclusion, I have share my point why the SML is similiar, similiar doesn't mean to be the exact same thing just fyi. Whether you want to believe it or not it's up to you, my point still stands eitherway.
And you gave SML here 4 ep worth judgement while you give Seo Joon 16 ep worth when ofc his character has come in full arc. For a better & fair comparison, it shd be both 4 ep worth, just saying.
Revenge was assosiate with Suho but it's undeniable that she use JG in that. The SML here use her as a bet, Seo Jun there use her as a tool for his revenge, hence if the show shown JG knowing his intention is like that in their initial ep then she'll be as upset as Lee Dam here when she find out how she was used as a bet.
If in real life this happens to me, some guy I barely knew keep following & getting close to me with that intention I'll be very upset & warn him to back off and mind his own business. Unfortunately the show never make JG know all of that.
Whether you don't think it brings a personal negative way to the FL is up to you, if you'd like to think that way, go ahead, but just be as open minded. I also just wanted to share my thoughts.
But that's exactly what my OP was about, it's my OPINION that both SML do share similiar traits, like it or not they did use the FL mere as a bet or as a tool, it was his initial intention. The FL does feel uncomfortable to get in between boys & in a situation she wouldn't want to enter to begin with. I never said his character wasn't redeemable, a jerk or something like that, right? In fact, I never said bad things about him, I'm only stating the obvious similiar traits.
And if you follow my discussion above you'd clearly see me actually explaining that this kind of guy was never be my type, so idk what's with all the fuss. Am I not allowed to say my type nor convey my opinion & have to accept ppl forcing down their opinion on my throat then?
I said on the above OP as well how first impression matters to me, so just like you might not like the SML in this & maybe won't warm up to his character enough to accept him with the FL even if he turned nice later, so did I with Seo Jun, as simple as that.
Also, I never ask ppl to agree with my opinion either, people can freely disagree, but forcing their opinion on me is clearly not the way.
TVN's interview & games with Doom's second couple characters (JI-JN-HK) with engsub I find this is really interesting to watch & also to know about the characters more so I'd just drop the YT link here: https://youtu.be/s_9IMIS9KfA
Lmao, why do you even need to bring Suho in this matter, is it because without him you can't defend him enough? So you're already indirectly admitting my point is correct then.
You need to reread your post again because none of the things you said relevant to my OP, just save those irrelevant matters for yourself. I don't need you to SPOIL what you read about the webtoon because I honestly don't care even if you think the "almighty" Seo Jun is the most complex characters on earth, my point still stands eitherway.
Fyi, you need to stop what you're doing because honestly it doesn't look good on you & it won't change my view after all, lol.
Lmao you're so funny forcing your opinion on me when all the things I mentioned above are nothing but fact of the things both SML did in the drama & how they're similiar so my point still stands.
Just because he's kind to his family doesn't mean he can't become an ass to others. You're judging the SML here harshly when it can also be revealed later that he might be just the same like Seo jun who love his fam too, lol.
Like it or not, I've a valid point of perspective that they can be taken as similiar/ has similiar traits from the action they do. Feel free to disagree, but am also not asking for your validation either so don't bother to put words on my throat, my point still stands anw, lol.
I completely agree!!! Tee hee ^v^ , I think why Seojun from True Beauty was hyped because he wasn't selfish and…
♡♡, for me he used to be that way too although maybe not as much or I think maybe his first impression lasted on me more than it should, so I've been given a repeller right from the start, lol
This drama is shaping up to be a a much2 better drama than I think it would. I went in without much expectation and very pleased to find that they're not only hilarious, but also written with lots of heart. Main leads character were written really well, sincere, has good heart & just so so relatable. I choked up & feel what she feels even before her first tears drop (ep4). It's easy to buy how they connected to eachother, they shared similiar soul & the drama doing a decent job in building beautiful moments between them & take time to see them evolves in natural way (while side eyeing Doom who rushed everything out, lol)
As for the SML, I never like this type of ML, he reminds me of Seo Jun from True Beauty whom I'll never understand the hype around his character (as I'm more into a softie, broken, cool calm type of guys than this bad boys type), so as long Lee Dam is being Lee Dam & the show doesn't turn her into some mere fickle girl, I think I'll be fine & content.
All in all, so far this drama has a promising start & even better, looking from the flashback they give, it seems we're in for an emotional ride ( & hell yes to it!) ♡♡
Hyeri is such a living meme, am loving her character here & gosh she's so pretty! And ofc Kang Ha Na & all the guys too :)) Such a fun & entertaining drama to watch with loveable characters!
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I hope this will be the road for JN to become independent, learn her worth & have self respect.
However, as for her future partner, I'm still optimist JI will still make a good partner for her. He makes mistake yes, but he's the type of person who want to face his problem. I believe they can talk it through.
Tho I'd be fine as well if she stay single, anything but her getting back together with HK.
His original speech:
"They're warm, nice people with big hearts."
After using Thesaurus:
"They're humid, prepossessing Homo sapiens with full-sized aortic pumps."
So when they show all those glorious dramatic kissing & supposed to be heartbreaking scenes for the main couple, I feel nothing.
And I hv the same expression as Chandler's having right there.
:)))
As for the 2nd couple story, I might be feeling frustated, annoyed at some characters, etc, but at least they make me feel something & intrigue to know how they'd end their story than the main's.
If so, then we surely have different std then & I don't think I need to say anything more.
Like I said earlier, you shdn't take the whole 16 ep arc of SJ to compare with the SML here, my OP take is only from the first 4 ep how they have similiar intention.
You keep bringing the whole Seo Jun's arc liking JG in a much later ep which never been in the context.
I also said that it can also be revealed later if the SML here improved & turned nice, if you compare ppl then give them fair share 4 ep to 4 ep.
In case you don't read it, I've said to other user too (@prettyelsiablah )
way long before this whole long discussion start, how it could be just because my different taste of men or could be just because his first impression last on me more than it should & she understand.
So idg all the fuss & why this whole long talk was needed, gosh.
I never like typical bad boys yes. The way SJ treat the FL as a tool for his revenge I clearly explain it, he's trying to get close to the FL with that intention in mind, just like the SML did here with his bet in mind. I'd be as bothered if I know a person I barely knew getting close to me for a bet or because he want to use me to provoke other people. It's your problem if you can't take it as him took her as a tool, not mine.
I said I never liked bad boys in the context of my taste of men for love interest. But as a person to person I can see that SJ character has evolved throughout the series & actually a good guy beneath, I acknowledge that thus why I said I like him too in that context, but still I won't like him enough to choose him as love interest. I never twisted my words but you are the one who twisted my words from your very little understanding of mine, judge me & excalates everything more than it should.
I already said that I never like this kind of bad boys, they're not my type.
Both SML use the FL in some way in their initial ep & that undoubtly so.
I've even explain if this happens in real life most ppl would upset upon knowing it too, you just don't want to accept my explanation, that's fine.
But I never said anything about judging the SML as a whole, or in this case Seo Jun as a whole, I never said that he's overall a bad person, didn't I? You're assuming thing when I never implied anything.
My point is
Both SML has similiar traits from the first 4 ep.
SML turned into a better person & has a good heart beneath: SJ proves it while SML.dude here haven't yet to explore or prove to be so, we're still at their 4th ep.
I like SJ as a character in the later ep even if he's not my type just like you did with Suho, although not to the point of shipping the FL with him, just like you might as well if the SML here show improvement, so I really don't get why you had to take this on a whole new level when it's just a matter of different perspective or different taste of men.
It's just my take, my opinion regarding the characters. You may leave it as it is just like I did with yours.
In conclusion, I have share my point why the SML is similiar, similiar doesn't mean to be the exact same thing just fyi. Whether you want to believe it or not it's up to you, my point still stands eitherway.
And you gave SML here 4 ep worth judgement while you give Seo Joon 16 ep worth when ofc his character has come in full arc. For a better & fair comparison, it shd be both 4 ep worth, just saying.
If in real life this happens to me, some guy I barely knew keep following & getting close to me with that intention I'll be very upset & warn him to back off and mind his own business.
Unfortunately the show never make JG know all of that.
Whether you don't think it brings a personal negative way to the FL is up to you, if you'd like to think that way, go ahead, but just be as open minded.
I also just wanted to share my thoughts.
I never said his character wasn't redeemable, a jerk or something like that, right? In fact, I never said bad things about him, I'm only stating the obvious similiar traits.
And if you follow my discussion above you'd clearly see me actually explaining that this kind of guy was never be my type, so idk what's with all the fuss. Am I not allowed to say my type nor convey my opinion & have to accept ppl forcing down their opinion on my throat then?
I said on the above OP as well how first impression matters to me, so just like
you might not like the SML in this & maybe won't warm up to his character enough to accept him with the FL even if he turned nice later, so did I with Seo Jun, as simple as that.
Also, I never ask ppl to agree with my opinion either, people can freely disagree, but forcing their opinion on me is clearly not the way.
I find this is really interesting to watch & also to know about the characters more so I'd just drop the YT link here:
https://youtu.be/s_9IMIS9KfA
You need to reread your post again because none of the things you said relevant to my OP, just save those irrelevant matters for yourself. I don't need you to SPOIL what you read about the webtoon because I honestly don't care even if you think the "almighty" Seo Jun is the most complex characters on earth, my point still stands eitherway.
Fyi, you need to stop what you're doing because honestly it doesn't look good on you & it won't change my view after all, lol.
Just because he's kind to his family doesn't mean he can't become an ass to others. You're judging the SML here harshly when it can also be revealed later that he might be just the same like Seo jun who love his fam too, lol.
Like it or not, I've a valid point of perspective that they can be taken as similiar/ has similiar traits from the action they do. Feel free to disagree, but am also not asking for your validation either so don't bother to put words on my throat, my point still stands anw, lol.
It's easy to buy how they connected to eachother, they shared similiar soul & the drama doing a decent job in building beautiful moments between them & take time to see them evolves in natural way (while side eyeing Doom who rushed everything out, lol)
As for the SML, I never like this type of ML, he reminds me of Seo Jun from True Beauty whom I'll never understand the hype around his character (as I'm more into a softie, broken, cool calm type of guys than this bad boys type), so as long Lee Dam is being Lee Dam & the show doesn't turn her into some mere fickle girl, I think I'll be fine & content.
All in all, so far this drama has a promising start & even better, looking from the flashback they give, it seems we're in for an emotional ride ( & hell yes to it!) ♡♡
Such a fun & entertaining drama to watch with loveable characters!