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Did her mum know all along that he abused her? Why is she standing up for his "mental health".

There are more than 2 leads in the anime actually, it's like a reverse harem. She doesn't end up with anyone in the anime, but in the manga she does end up with the main for a while. I didn't complete the manga, so I don't know what happens after that. I hope they conclude the story in this show.

Can't believe one of my favourite anime is getting a C-drama. I hope they conclude the story in it, the anime wasn't conclusive and I didn't have the heart to continue with the manga.

I haven't read the book so I guess I didn't see it coming. Maybe they want to take the story into a different direction, based on the book if everyone had supported him, there wouldn't be anything to build on for the next season.

I appreciate you taking the time to evaluate the situation carefully and avoiding rushed judgments. I agree with you on the importance of due process and evaluating evidence as it comes to light. I also share your view that mob mentality and black-and-white thinking can oversimplify complex issues.
Regarding the grooming issue, I agree that it does seem like it could be true, but that’s exactly why verification of the evidence presented is so critical. While I understand the high emotions and feelings of betrayal that many are experiencing, I’ve noticed that the reactions I’m seeing often lack the caution and logic we need in situations like this. It’s understandable, but I wish more people would handle this the way you are, thoughtfully and with a focus on fairness. That’s my only request to anyone who comes across this thread: let’s not forget our humanity, even amidst these intense emotions.
To clarify my own stance, I’m not waiting for criminal charges to be filed. I know that him dating her as a 15 year old in prior to 2020 wouldn't be considered illegal in Korea (it's still disgusting as far as I'm concerned). My focus is on the evidence presented by the family being properly verified. They held a press conference today, stating they would submit the pictures for forensic review, which I think should also include the letter and diary for a thorough examination. I believe this step is crucial to ensuring clarity and fairness in the process.
I also resonate with your point about supporting artists in the community while seeking justice. It’s a balanced approach that I think is really important. No one is above the law, and anyone committing a crime especially as disgusting as pedophilia should be punished, by the law as well as by the public. It's only fair.

No, I am saying wait for the evidence that the family has presented to be verified.

I hear how upset you are, and I feel you on Kim Sae-ron’s death, it’s absolutely heartbreaking. But you’re jumping from “incriminating evidence” to “he raped her” like it’s a done deal, and that’s where I’m pushing back. I’m not defending Kim Soo-hyun, I’m not a fan, and if he’s guilty, he deserves the consequences. I’m strictly against pedophiles, and if he preyed on her at 15, that’s disgusting, full stop. My issue is we can’t call allegations “proof”.
I’m saying this needs proper investigation before we label it proof. Is the diary even real? Have the photos been forensically reviewed to confirm their timeline? What about analyzing the letters and texts for authenticity? This stuff needs to be thoroughly investigated, not just taken at face value because it fits a narrative. The fact that people here aren’t willing to accept that this process is necessary proves my point about mob culture, it’s all emotion, no rigor. We can’t just gang up on someone based on unconfirmed evidence, no matter how bad it looks. I’m not budging on this, even if you all disagree.

No it isn't.

No, it WAS an ad hominem, you incorrectly assumed I found KHS handsome and am defending him, when 1. I’m not defending him, and 2. I was urging caution. An ad hominem is attacking the person instead of the argument, which is exactly what you did by questioning my motivations instead of addressing my points. But honestly, I’m done arguing too; enjoy your finite time, and I’ll enjoy mine.

It is indeed an egregious assumption. I am NOT a fan of his!!! Being handsome doesn't mean you can commit a crime. I'm all for punishing him, people here didn't even read my comment properly and assumed I was defending him. I am only defending the rule of law and am against mob culture canceling anyone based on an accusation that still needs to be investigated.

There's evidence that is being investigated. Once it has been investigated it will turn into proof. Curse away, it's not my mouth that's spewing the filth.

Incriminating evidence is evidence that suggests someone has committed a crime. That evidence then needs to be investigated and evaluated before someone can be accused of committing that crime.

I don’t know where you’re from, but every country has laws, and as human beings, we are governed by said laws. However, fandoms on both sides are behaving like the judge and jury here, which is a dangerous precedent that has already taken so many lives, some innocent, some not. I have seen actors commit suicide over DUI charges because of how people overreact. While this is a very sensitive case, I am only asking people to be cautious. Yet here you all are, attacking me, while proving the very point I am trying to make.

And yes İ can answer the babysitting question. İt's not the great 'own' you think it is.

İf İ had a baby, İ wouldn't let any stranger babysit it. I wouldn't even let a relative İ didn't trust babysit him. You think just because some actors are handsome, everyone wants them to babysit their children? What idiotic logic is this?

The world is already cruel to women. İ am not against you all standing up for someone or something you believe in, İ am just saying that the level of toxicity on both sides needs to be reduced. Try to approach issues with a level head, with logic and empathy rather than raw emotion. İt isn't entirely misplaced here, but attacking people on the internet just because they made a comment, assuming the worst about them is just proving my point.

Do you even understand what an ad hominem attack is?! İt literally was just that.

Again, you're making assumptions about me based on literally nothing. İ have already stated this multiple times, people need to stop being toxic. No one is stopping you from grieving, but you all need the police to do their job. There's incriminating evidence against him that is being investigated, but you people are behaving like he is guilty of the crime already. Your mob mentality arguments won't work on me. There's nothing different between you and all the crazy women defending him just because they're his fans. You all need to calm down, it's because of behaviours like yours that so many celebrities commit suicide. You people never give anyone a chance to stand up for themselves.

And yes, I understand that his agency didn't reveal a lot of things about them dating. But the issue is not about them dating secretly as adults, which İ don't think anyone should even bother to comment on (İt's their personal life). The only issue anyone should be concerned with is the grooming and pedophile accusations which if found true via 'İnvestigation' and 'Conclusive Evidence', then he can ROT İN HELL FOR ETERNİTY. As should every other pedo in the world.

Seems like you're not using logic here. İ am not a fan of this actor, İ haven't watched a single show of his. İ am just asking people to understand the facts before they jump to conclusions. You can be angry at the situation, it is a terrible thing. However, accusations are not proof. The main crime here is of him grooming her and dating her while she was a minor, even if he can't be proven guilty, there needs to be conclusive evidence that he committed this crime, before we have another person committing suicide.

Who are these disgusting parents and God parents who allowed her to date an older man as a middle schooler. Are you people for real? A middle schooler writing in their diary that she dated a famous actor is not Proof.

İs there proof of him making her work for free? Or extorting her or just accusations?

You really need to calm down. İ don't have any kids for him to babysit. You're literally proving my point by being hysterical about this situation. You're all behaving like he personally killed her, or that she died because of him.

The grooming and extortion needs to proven. He has been accused, he needs to Proven guilty of the charges. İ am calling for sanity, İ am not against him being charged as a pedo.

İf he really is a pedophile is yet to be proven, and that is my only issue with this whole situation. İf they dated as adults, it really isn't anyone's business even if they hid it or lied about it.

The only evidence İ care about is the if he dated her as a minor or not. Them dating as adults and not disclosing it is nobody's business.