Flypsyde

It's clear English is NOT your first language as you use words/tenses/phrases in often amusingly incorrect ways. Perhaps it is too "complex" for you.

Have a nice day.

MewGulf are second only to MaxTul in great make-out scenes, but beginning in the horrible second season, MewGulf's "sex" scenes took on the tone and feeling of old-fashioned, soft-core porn. lol Even the music was cheesy. S2 and this awful thing's sex scenes felt like the same damn thing over and over and over again. Snooze...

Because $$$.

Yikes. That was just really pretty terrible. As bad as the second season was, I still have an affection for this couple. But this was 90% filler from past episodes, terribly written and acted side-scenes, and ten minutes of the wedding itself, which should have been magnificent like Thorn's and his Auntie-wife's was before them. Instead they just walk out into the garden together, say the words we've heard 74 times before and slip rings on each other. Where were the groomsmen and women? Why no officiant? Why no grand classical music like at Thorn's wedding?

I mean, I cried during the wedding of course, but I was also sort of bored. What a strange, thrown-together finale to a very charismatic and BL-Classic pairing. Every scene between Tharn and Type was either a flash-back or a repetition of what we've heard over and over before.

I hope if Mew and Gulf ever agree to reunite for a third attempt at a rewarding and meaningful series or movie, they get full control over script, direction, production, everything because this sorry mess just made them look like chumps and sell-outs. I'm glad I didn't pay $13 or whatever some folks apparently forked over to see this awful tripe.

I removed my comment and I apologize for snapping at you. I think I was still in reaction mode from reading a completely different review that spent some time on sexual predation issues. lol Have a good day.

I guess I read the comment as a personal feeling, not a demand that the show be cancelled and all copies of it incinerated so that no one else could see it. This person simply wishes the second season hadn't tainted their memory of the first.

Who did Type "sexually assault?"

I enjoyed your review because of your amusing, conversational, snarky style, but disagree with almost everything you wrote, which is weird because I think the series mostly sucked too. Interesting. I don't mean this in any way as an insult, but you obviously viscerally HATED this series, so did you continue watching so that you could review it, or for some other reason?

I hear you hating on the characters, and there was so much bullshit to hate on, but that's the fault of the writers and director and producer, right? The reaction I kept having is "why is there so much repetition of predicaments here, each just slightly different from the last one?" My feeling was always that Type was much more of an asshole than Tharn, which is the opposite of your perspective. As for Mew, I mostly felt sorry for him having to act out all that whining and begging over and over. That cutesy begging, pleading thing most Thai characters do at some point is amusing the first 20 times, but not the last 80.

Please read this in the spirit in which it is offered: I truly do not understand why folks such as you, who have such a strong negative reaction to "toxic" relationships and any hint of aggressive sexual behavior or sexual assault, rape, whatever, watch BLs at all. Those behaviors are like a basic plot element of countless BLs, so why watch them? I have no problem with observing those behaviors in drama because first of all, these things happen in real life and anything in real life is fair game for drama, including murder, arson, kidnapping, fire-bombing, robbery, conspiracy, lying, deception, torture, maiming and on and on. It's TOTALLY about HOW those behaviors are presented and dealt with by the plot that determines how I feel about it. Secondly, I am not observing ACTUAL bad behavior, but seeing it within the confines of a fictional scenario. This is not actually happening to someone in my living room or on the street. If it were, I'd try to stop it.

You'll likely think me a horrible person, but I found Tharn's ever-present horniness in relation to Type to be believable, hot, charming and wonderful, frankly. Tharn doesn't go around hitting on just any man for sex, he hits on the man he loves and adores. One of the MANY ways he expresses his love for Type is through the many different acts of sex, and I for one love sex, especially in a committed, monogamous relationship, because you can do EVERYTHING and not worry about STDs. Tharn cannot be accused of using Type for sex. He would and does do EVERYTHING he can for him. He treats him like a Prince, in and out of bed. How is that not to be admired? I wish I had a BF like that.

I am a man, and I know that men, especially young men like Tharn and Type, are horny 24/7. Put TWO young, horny men together and you're going to get a LOT of sex. In my view, Tharn's ever-present sexual desire for Type is a delightful thing. And Type enjoys playing the prude and putting up initial resistance but usually caving and enthusiastically participating, because at heart he wants it just as much as Tharn does. Part of his supposed reluctance in S1, I think, was related to his extreme internalized homophobia and the trauma of the sexual abuse he suffered as a child. But as S1 and then S2 progress, you see him becoming less and less inhibited sexually and more willing to initiate sex with Tharn. To me, that is a beautiful thing and a cause for happiness, not offense.

Tharn NEVER forced Type to do anything he didn't want to. He seduced him several times in the first season, but I am not one who thinks seduction is necessarily a bad thing. Type is a full-grown man capable of physically resisting if he chose to, which he did not. He also never said NO or STOP or GET OFF ME YOU BASTARD. When he did not want to have sex, they didn't have sex. Or he would whine a little and then moan a little and then whine and moan but the moans always outlasted the whines. lol Turning someone on to the point they CHOOSE to have sex with you is not a bad thing. Holding them down and forcing them to endure sex with you IS very much a bad thing. Black, white and a world of gray in between.

I find your assertion that Tharn gently accusing Type of wearing the tank top to seduce him was some kind of sexual harassment to be absurd. It is all part of a long-standing game they both enjoy playing. When that scene began and I saw the tank top, I immediately thought "at some point, Tharn is going to go all horn-dog over that," and I was right, and I found it hilarious and adorable. In my perception of this couple's relationship, Type knew when he put the tank top on that Tharn would react as he did. Thing is, he is always free to enjoy the attention or turn Tharn down as he often does. Maybe he put the tank top on because he WANTED to turn Tharn on so that he could act all prudish and accuse Tharn of endless horniness, OR get it on with him. Type can take care of himself, he is not a victim, and he knows very well what goes on in his beloved partner's head.

I've gone on much too long. Overall, I found it interesting that we disliked the series but for almost completely different reasons. We agree on one thing though: DocChamp. Adorable! And that's the first time I believed it when a character was presented as already being in love but not being aware of it. I now believe such people exist. Champ became perhaps my favorite character in the series.

isn't there an entire special episode in which Tharn and Type get married?

Thanks for your comment. Always interesting to read the views of those who perceive a drama differently than do I, mainly in regard to Champ and Doc, who I found adorable. I disliked the weird Leo/basketball kid story line until they confessed to each other at which point it began to touch me. Doesn't hurt that Leo (LAY-O) :D is the best looking guy in the show. wow.

Just googled it. Wow, Gulf really did shave his head for the monk scenes. Very admirable commitment to the story and character on his part. As an amateur actor myself, I applaud his dedication. PLUS, he is lucky enough that given his features, he looked radiantly beautiful with the hair and eyebrows gone, and I mean that not with a feminine connotation. He was breath-taking, especially with the braid/crown on the day of the parade.

I completely agree with you. BUT for everyone to react in exactly the same fickle, irrational way? Highly unlikely, no?

AHAHAHAHAHA...

Episode 12

This is long, so dive in if you care to:

Well, I did not expect that. Even the old cynic in me who expected the worst from this episode cried like a child through most of it. I mean...UGLY cry. :D

Bald Type in his monk outfit is one of the most beautiful things I've ever seen, especially when he wore that braid/crown thing on the first day of his ordination. The parade led by his parents with Tharn, their inclusion of him in the ceremonies, his carrying of the pillow, Type throwing candies to the crowd then being carried into the temple on the shoulders of his friends...just...beautiful. I keep using that word but don't know what else to say. I'm kind of in shock, given how flawed the rest of this series has been.

If Gulf did NOT shave his head for those scenes, then that is THE best bald-head makeup job I have ever seen and the makeup team deserves a Oscar for it. I saw no seams or wrinkles where a rubber cap would reveal itself and you could see the slight darkness where the shaved hair follicles remained. The realism of that took me over the edge into completely believing what was happening. The trips Tharn made to visit the monk and offer gifts, and the scenes in which he did so, were off-the-charts touching to me. And that steady monk-gaze of Type's, even as he looked into the eyes of his beloved, just wrecked me.

I admit, I expected this to be tacky and cringey when it became clear that Type was going into the monkhood, if even just for a month. It was to me everything except that. I am grateful to the cast, crew and director for such a deeply moving experience as this episode was to me.

I don't get why Type came home a week early though, and that didn't seem to ever be explained. And it was kind of weird how he stood looking into the kitchen even as he would have to have heard Tharn come in the door, but then turned in surprise when Tharn spoke his name. If someone can help me out with that, I'd appreciate it.

Don't really care though, as the scene of the bed-side promise-vows, with Type the ever-hesitant one, initiating them, was transcendent to me. I have always adored the way Tharn looks at Type when they are canoodling with unabashed, unashamed love, but watching Mew in close-up as Type not only gave to him what he had passionately desired for so long, but did so with full and utter willingness and desire, had me sobbing. The way in which Type has been returning that adoring gaze full-on in the last couple of episodes, free of his usual snarky comments and hesitancy; giving that invaluable gift to Tharn, is I think one of the loveliest things I have seen on screen anywhere.

Speaking of adoring, that's what I do when Champ comes on-screen. I love that character and the way he's portrayed by the actor. I've even come to like Doc very much, and Doc's confession scene to Champ, and Champ's response had me reaching for the paper towels again. I've seen characters in other films or series who supposedly already loved someone but didn't KNOW it. This is the first time I have BELIEVED that to be possible. Champ really is adorably clueless, but I've a feeling he won't be for long.

At first I thought Thorn's wedding was Tharn's and was a mess from the first sight of the setting and that gorgeous classical tune, which I love. Thorn, about whom I've always felt ambivalent in this show, was handsome as could be in that white/black tux. The slight downer is that his bride looks like an Auntie next to him, I thought that the first time she showed up. But whatever....

I know others, like me, have not cared for this series so I'm interested to read what they thought of this episode in particular.

From me: BRAVO

OK, agree to disagree then.

I'm struck at what you said about this ep leaving you cold. I've teared up a few times earlier in this series but cried off and on throughout this one, even as I rolled my eyes at all the bad writing and direction. lol

Your first paragraph: I get what you're saying about Earth wasted on action films, but that goes directly to why I mentioned Dwayne Johnson. I am NOT a big action fan, BUT my brother, with whom I share a home, IS. Every time I happen to see part of a DJ film he's watching I have thought "that dude's a good actor." The fact that he is draws me in despite myself. His hot bod and striking, distinctive features (like Earth's!) are icing on the cake. I agree about Earth's subtlety and patience in conveying emotion and thought. I see his brain and heart processing info across his face and through his eyes before he utters a word. Just in my book, he is of the same caliber as Mew, who is wasted in the horrible second season of TharnType.

I absolutely agree with being harder on a show you care about. I'm thinking that's why so many of us have reacted so strongly against the second season of WBL. The first season was so good, so that's the standard the second has to meet and it's not happening. Are you watching that show?

Regarding Brothers and Cupid Coach, thanks for cuing me in. I've been hesitant to start watching after reading their descriptions and looking at photos. You've saved me some time. :D

OK, I get what you're saying, thanks. The behaviors you mention by SD still feel out of character to me primarily because in S1 I completely believed in his over-arching, passionate love for SY. Then he went off to America and had a personality transplant and reacted to the first obstacle to their love with a seeming shrug, like "whatever." Then they meet by accident after five years and he wonders why SY is just a tad annoyed. I hated the seeming arrogance SD displayed in the first two eps in his approach to SY. He didn't first explain and ask forgiveness, he acted as though SY was being silly. He was dismissive. Remember, "oh, you just need a good meal,, that's what's wrong with you..." comment as he invaded SY's house without permission. For whatever reason at that moment I wanted to crawl into my laptop screen and punch him in the face. I'm still trying to determine which person from one of my former lives he must remind me of. :D

I'm sorry, I don't mean to belabor this and you have every right to your perspective. And yeah, I wanted to know if they did the deed or not, too! It was really annoying how they jumped from that pivotal scene to SD fully dressed sitting on the couch opposite SY and dad. That happens frequently in BLs...some big confrontation occurs and then the next scene is like days later or something and you never find out what happened in those next moments. Pure bait and switch. I don't get it.

But you're right, we didn't get an answer to that. They just skipped ahead so that we'll keep wondering. ugh.

I'm working on not being quite so argumentative as I have tendency to be, so please forgive me if I'm failing at that right now, but I mean "stupid" as derived from its root "stupor," or to "be in a stupor." I don't mean they are mentally challenged or anything. My point being that people who avoid things like details and context go through life in a sort of uninformed haze, or "stupor" in which they miss a lot of what's going on around them. To me, that accurately describes the Chief and the villagers after Tian's admittedly confusing confession.

"Stupid" has evolved to where most people consider it a pejorative insult, like "retarded" or "dumb-ass." I use it as I describe above.

Good. It's excellent that you've seen the error of your ways. Sarcasm aside, why DID you quote the ratings? What was your purpose in doing that?