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Yeah, yeah, yeah...I know all about these old stories. The actors involved were being unprofessional as hell. I don't recalling demanding that Sam quit his job though...can you point out where I said that? Just that it's something to watch out for as he progresses in his career. And from another angle, do you have any idea how high the rates of alcoholism, drug addiction and death from both are among actors and other artists, as well as the high rate of suicide? I guess that is something you don't give a shit about. For some reason, you want to promote drunk acting, and presumably stoned, whacked out on heroin, and cocaine-induced acting, as a good thing and I really don't get that. Why is that important to you, that actors do their jobs in an altered state that takes them out of control?

I'm currently re-watching this series before I move on to Season 2, which I have not seen yet. I've reached the part where Type is being crucified online for resisting being photographed by the transgender chick and her gay male friend. Am I the only one who felt those two were super-aggressive and obnoxious in the way they approached Type about photographing him? They made all kinds of sexually suggestive remarks from the start, commenting on his hotness and body and all kinds of other sex stuff. Which is fine with me if it's funny and minds its boundaries. But then they started groping him and stroking him aggressively and I was thinking what assholes they were long before Type reached his limit and told them to back off. And his character also has all that other traumatic baggage to deal with.

I am gay and am not fond of those types of stereotypical LGBTQ characters to begin with. They seem to project this idea that most gay people act this way: loud, rude, obsessed with sex, campy, and aggressive with their obnoxiousness. MOST gay people do not act that way, believe me.

Anyway, it seems ridiculous to me that Type is now being ostracized by the entire campus community for standing up for his right not to be groped and touched and otherwise sexually molested if he doesn't want to be. Had I been in his place I think I would have punched that little guy when he started hugging and stroking me after I indicated I wanted him to stop. The groping and stroking itself was arguably a form of sexual assault and Type would have had every right to take a complaint to the cops or campus authorities.

Thoughts?

I know your comment was not meant for me personally or in particular, but I thank you for the common sense of its content and for the calm way in which you stated it. Yes, there are far more comments attacking my choice to criticize the on-set drinking than there are my comments doing just that. Now that I think about it, it's amusing and revealing. Anyway, thanks for your cogent comment. I agree about avoiding the director's future projects, though that might mean skipping the third season of this drama. I hope Sam fires his incompetent drinking buddy/acting coach.

Sure it is. He spoke about it with his director and idiot acting coach in a public interview. So he made it a matter of interest for anyone who follows the show or his career. As a part-time actor myself, I'm always interested in how people prepare for and pull off challenging scenes. Your comment is just a long-winded way of telling me to STFU. It's good that I don't care what you think.

"Acting" is a form of pretending. You PRETEND to be drunk or to be on heroin or to murder someone, you don't actually DO it. This is not a difficult concept to grasp.

Ummm...you forgot to mention all the hatefulness aimed my way. I have argued my point and will continue to do so. Please, if you care to, explain how I'm going to spoil a life and career with some comments on the Internet. Oh...you mean I'm not supposed to criticize Sam Lin the public actor because I might hurt his feelings and little ol' me with my comments on mydramalist is going to bring his career to a halt. I don't really think that's a concern. Sam made his choice and talked about it publicly in an interview. I guess he's out to wreck his OWN career too? How dare someone be held accountable for their behavior and publicly made comments about it, eh?

Yes, you are stupid. This comment makes it clear. Have a great day! :D

It is extremely and highly unprofessional and dangerous for actors to be drunk on set. Just because a minority of successful actors have done so doesn't make it a good choice. Now good luck with YOUR crusade to promote drunk acting. It's a very worthy cause.

Great. Sounds like a good choice.

Still going on about the numbers, eh? That's what you've got? Yes, yes, everyone here encouraging actors to get wasted on the job are brilliantly intelligent. That's some real world common sense alright.

Oh, I had a typo? that's a first online. I get it. You think drinking alcohol as a tool to act drunk is great. I don't. Piss off.

I've read through that very same list. Did you read the text of each entry? Most of those incidents led to big problems on the set. Shia and J. Depp and Edward Norton and Martin Sheen and Brad Pitt have had or do have problems with alcohol addiction and disasters on set. THIS IS NOT METHOD ACTING. Jesus, would you have actors shooting up heroin for a drug scene? Sam seems to be a very talented actor, which makes this incident all the more stupid. He does not need the booze! The director and the acting coach are morons. Who's on a high horse? Who's canceling anyone? Unfortunately, drug and alcohol abuse have canceled way too many actors right out of a job and often right into an early grave.

Man, that is some f**ked-up reasoning. I've already said Sam and the director and the acting coach were all out of line. Who are these people who think it's cool to get wasted at work? Actors "act," they do not rely on chemicals to get in character, no matter how many times you say otherwise. And if Sam continues this kind of "method" acting, he will find it harder and harder to get work. No one who knows what they are doing wants a drunk on a live set. The director and the acting coach are idiots as well. What I can't believe is that anyone is DEFENDING this behavior.

Oh, I forgot...this is kind of like a K-Pop thread,, where there are "armies" cheering on their pet shows and their idols and they would sooner die than criticize anything they did.

You are a moron. Professionals, in whatever field of endeavor, do NOT rely on alcohol to do their job. If they do, they get fired. Most of your comment is stupid gibberish.

Well, what you are thinking is as ridiculous as your comment. It's not OK for any professional to rely on alcohol to do their job, OK? Hell, most bartenders don't drink while they're on the clock. Why should the crew have to "take care of" some shit-faced actor who got wasted on the job? The rest of your comment is silliness I never implied.

Where and in what situations? If true, those actors have serious problems. And Sam didn't drink "a little." He drank 3 or 4 large glasses of whiskey. He was shit-faced. Yeah, that's some great acting technique there.

Good.

I want to make sure you understand that I wholly agree with you. But there are a lot of people on this thread who want to censor what others say because it "offends" them. One is bent out of shape because I said the couch scene was "hot," which to them naturally means that I think real-life rape is hot. Jesus.

Thanks for that. In almost every one of the instances in the list at the link you shared, you will read about how the drinking caused trouble on the set. A good number of the people on that list have discussed their substance abuse problems publicly. Many of them have trouble getting work because of their known problems with booze on the set. Shi LeBeouof is probably the worst case. Aside from all of that, I just think that if you have to use booze to prepare for a scene you are not a very good actor. Just my opinion.

Only thing I've been judging is Sam's decision to get wasted on set to play the drunk scene. What's worse is the director encouraging it. If you think it's cool to get literally drunk on set, then you know little about professional acting.

Perhaps international fans just have higher standards for what is appropriate on a film set and what is a cheap, lazy short-cut to do a scene you ought to be able to do sober. There has been nothing on this thread that is critical of Sam's personal life, at least none that I noticed. It is all related to on-set behavior and statements made in promotional interviews.