I'm not certain that he's gay (could be bi, pansexual, or anything else for all we know), but I think it might…
I think that was the point of my initial post, although I may not have expressed it as well as you. We just don't know. His intentions are unclear. That's why I was surprised to see so many posts about him being gay when it's ambiguous. I'm excited to find out the truth.
I argue with u on that the previous eps when TK sth really swt or act touchy watch his expressions closely he…
All of which can be easily explained by his desire to please others. I think you’re reading more into it than is actually there but will be very interesting to see if his true feelings are ever explained.
Why is everyone on this board so certain that Da On is gay? I've never gotten that vibe from him. I always thought he was just being nice. Very nice. Inappropriately nice. Nice in ways that gave the wrong signals-nice. But I never once thought he was romantically interested in TK. I think he's straight and just got caught up in something without realizing what his behavior implied and how it affected people. He found a lost puppy dog and cared for it out of sympathy and pity and his general good (though dysfunctional) nature, until that dog mistakenly thought he was supposed to be with him.
Everyone's opinion is valid. This isn't the "post only glowing reviews" board.
I can't speak for anyone but myself, but when I start a show, unless it's 1 out of 10, I'll finish it. Why? Because I always hope there will be a moment of redemption. And every episode brings new opportunities to delight... or not. I guess those "multiple negative comment" folks are just airing their frustrations. And everyone wants to be seen and heard. We all want validation. So they hope someone will share their views and validate them. But that's me psychoanalyzing people I don't even know based on random comments on a BL message board. Probably not a wise choice. I'll be quiet now.
i've been thinking of this but i guess i'm on the other side. maybe it's because i am also like (gasp) it's not…
@ammmz - Agree, it's collaborative to a point. And agree Gun needs lessons. But it seems you're a director, so... you shoot a scene with Gun and he makes these faces. Don't you pull him aside and say, "a little less grimacing"??? It may never be great, but you can make it less awful. A bad actor can only do what they are capable of, so it's up to the director to get the best performance out of him. And failing that, it's up to director/editor to find the best takes. "Hey, he's making horrible faces. Let's show him from behind with his body shuddering. The audience will still know he's crying." - I too have worked on shows where the actors were horrible, but then in the final edit it all came together. Ultimately, there's one person in charge and it's their responsibility.
While I agree with the MANY comments that the acting is not as strong as in other series, I'm gonna point the finger at the director. Something as glaring as Sky's gnashing teeth should have been called out and corrected by the director. He/She/Whoever approved it and didn't ask for a retake, so while Gun may be limited in his range, the director could have given him other options or chosen better takes. It's not all the actors' faults. And the director is the one who chose multiple slo-mo's and flashbacks within the same episode. Lame.
Was it great? No. It was good. Was it satisfying. HELL YES. So happy to see them all again and spend time with my favorite group of friends.
As everyone is saying, predictable, cliche story done for the 100th (or 100,000th) time. But if you like these characters, you will like this journey. And I LOVE these characters. While there is plenty of cliche dialogue, just when you wanna face palm they come up with a line that really hits home and makes your heart melt.
There are several plot holes, dropped storylines. The script was obviously much longer and had to be cut for time - but I wasn't expecting an Oscar worthy film, just a satisfying conclusion to one of my favorite BL stories. And I got it. I'm happy, satisfied and content.
This is a great group of actors. Even Tony, who was the weak point of the series, feels stronger and more centered here. I actually liked JC more in the series, but I think it was because he got to play so many more levels there.
The revelation for me here was JunJun. The writers really let him shine, and Miguel played the role very well. A great friend to everyone, even Crystal. Makes me wish for someone like him in my life (especially at 18). Plus, I don't know what happened to him in a year, but he just seemed a lot hotter. And I have to say, boy looked fine in drag. That crop top! Hello, Boyfriend, indeed!
Geez I do not like Sohee's character at all! She just keeps getting more and more unlikable and that sucks because…
Oh we got 2 more female characters - and they were nosy, intrusive, shippers who start spreading rumors without any real evidence. "They were holding hands the whole time" Uh, no they weren't. "Da-On is gay" - Uh... no one knows for sure for a few more eps, sis.
It's so f-ing creepy that people in BL go around taking sneaky pics of other people. WHo does that?
Can you pls spoil me whats the plot and is this cencered
A character from a writer's novel is somehow able to come into his real life. They go back and forth between their realities and help each other along the way. There is bromance only, but I don't know if that qualifies as "censorship" or if it was just the intent of the show in the first place.
Don't know if Aam actually dated any of the 2Moons2 actors, haven't heard anything about it. But yeah, I do agree…
I only assume he had a relationship, because they say this series is based on his real life experience - but only the real people know what actually went on. And thanks for the link. Twas a sad but interesting explanation.
I loved this. Unusual story with a few surprises along the way. Cute and sweet bromance. They were so sweet together I wished for more, but very happy with the relationship as is, especially given the constraints of the premise. Good performances all around. All in all an enjoyable 45 journey into fantasy that is unlike the normal BL/bromance formula. I'll rewatch.
I don’t follow the Thai celebrity scandals. Do we know who Aam actually dated from 2Moons? (I assume it’s Kaprao since he’s got a role here). Do we know who was assaulted by the producer/manager? What came of it all?
First, exposing the dark underbelly of this industry is something that should be applauded. It takes guts to go up against an entire industry, so kudos to those involved.
But is this really the way the industry works? A director gets hired, sight unseen for a project days away from production? And he's hired to direct a BL series, when he doesn't even know what BL stands for? (I know there are many tropes in the genre, but is BL truly only straight male falling for straight male? There's NO other scenario?) Then he's told to lead a workshop, for a script he hasn't even read yet? No wonder so many BL series are poorly directed.
And while I know the management companies promote the false ships of their leads - do they really make them sleep in the same bed? There is creepy and there's CREEPY, and if that's really what goes on, it's ULTRA-CREEPY.
Unfortunately, exposing the problems of the industry is about the only good thing I have to say about this series. I liked 1 or 2 scenes in the whole 6 episodes. The writing was filled with all the worst BL has to offer. How many times in how many series will people ask questions and then be ignored and never get an answer? It happens here ALL THE TIME. "Is this really love?" "Why are you asking"? "Do you love me?" "Why?" Ugh. Grounds for dumping that evasive f'er, right there. But somehow NOT answering the question leads to them having sex. What?
Direction and editing were even worse. Pacing was glacier slow. Far too many ultra-long awkward pauses (again where people don't answer the questions - or worse, when they just stare off into space despite the person next to them calling them repeatedly). Totally useless shots and scenes... what did we learn about James from watching him primp with his hair in the mirror for 90 seconds?
I did not really care for the characters. Even Bas, who is given the most depth and has a truly horrible story to tell. They did not find a way to make him engaging. I wanted to care, but I didn't. I guess Marco had an unrequited crush on James. But his crying scene felt like it came from out of nowhere, so I couldn't empathize with him. Ait is foolish, childish, ignorant and borders on stalkery. James is pathetic. Shows no signs that he should direct traffic, let alone a series. How many times did his producer have to wake him out of his reverie? Directors are IN CHARGE! James was a lost puppy. And when on day one, you are told that directors/actors cannot date - maybe try to be a little secretive about it. These two practically flaunt it. If you're both so scared about the consequences, then try a little harder. Ridiculous.
Didn't buy the love story either. Okay, love at first sight. No real reasons for liking a person other than their looks and a general "feeling." I suppose it happens. And when confronted with the questions... "what do you even like about me", another classic answer. "Why are you asking?" BECAUSE I WANT TO KNOW YOUR FEELINGS, A-HOLE. But did not get any real chemistry between the leads at all. Ait was fine at being cute and flirty, but no true substance. James had zero going on. And Marco goes from being heartbroken to new potential BF in one scene. How much sympathy can I have for him when he is clearly not that affected?
I am curious to find out how they tie up the loose ends, but I'll just get that info online. I'm not going to bother watching S2 of this drek.
My issue was with the multi-generational homophobia. That's why I'm hoping there's a part 2 for Dew's story so…
I hear ya'. I think chances of a S2 are slim, since they are both working on their new series, but you never know. And I'm not certain I would come back after this.
I'm enjoying seeing both couples get closer and closer to confessions.
Bank, oh, Bank. Forget that Pitch guy. I'll treat you like the King you are.
And I'm sure this "camping trip/charity service" is a big part of Thai life -- but does it have to be in soooo many BL's? I mean, you've at least given us a relatively under-serviced premise with the bodyguard/mafia son idea, how about coming up with new scenarios instead of retreading this one for the 100th time.
But Bank... Hello Husband!
As everyone is saying, predictable, cliche story done for the 100th (or 100,000th) time. But if you like these characters, you will like this journey. And I LOVE these characters. While there is plenty of cliche dialogue, just when you wanna face palm they come up with a line that really hits home and makes your heart melt.
There are several plot holes, dropped storylines. The script was obviously much longer and had to be cut for time - but I wasn't expecting an Oscar worthy film, just a satisfying conclusion to one of my favorite BL stories. And I got it. I'm happy, satisfied and content.
This is a great group of actors. Even Tony, who was the weak point of the series, feels stronger and more centered here. I actually liked JC more in the series, but I think it was because he got to play so many more levels there.
The revelation for me here was JunJun. The writers really let him shine, and Miguel played the role very well. A great friend to everyone, even Crystal. Makes me wish for someone like him in my life (especially at 18). Plus, I don't know what happened to him in a year, but he just seemed a lot hotter. And I have to say, boy looked fine in drag. That crop top! Hello, Boyfriend, indeed!
It's so f-ing creepy that people in BL go around taking sneaky pics of other people. WHo does that?
But is this really the way the industry works? A director gets hired, sight unseen for a project days away from production? And he's hired to direct a BL series, when he doesn't even know what BL stands for? (I know there are many tropes in the genre, but is BL truly only straight male falling for straight male? There's NO other scenario?) Then he's told to lead a workshop, for a script he hasn't even read yet? No wonder so many BL series are poorly directed.
And while I know the management companies promote the false ships of their leads - do they really make them sleep in the same bed? There is creepy and there's CREEPY, and if that's really what goes on, it's ULTRA-CREEPY.
Unfortunately, exposing the problems of the industry is about the only good thing I have to say about this series. I liked 1 or 2 scenes in the whole 6 episodes. The writing was filled with all the worst BL has to offer. How many times in how many series will people ask questions and then be ignored and never get an answer? It happens here ALL THE TIME. "Is this really love?" "Why are you asking"? "Do you love me?" "Why?" Ugh. Grounds for dumping that evasive f'er, right there. But somehow NOT answering the question leads to them having sex. What?
Direction and editing were even worse. Pacing was glacier slow. Far too many ultra-long awkward pauses (again where people don't answer the questions - or worse, when they just stare off into space despite the person next to them calling them repeatedly). Totally useless shots and scenes... what did we learn about James from watching him primp with his hair in the mirror for 90 seconds?
I did not really care for the characters. Even Bas, who is given the most depth and has a truly horrible story to tell. They did not find a way to make him engaging. I wanted to care, but I didn't. I guess Marco had an unrequited crush on James. But his crying scene felt like it came from out of nowhere, so I couldn't empathize with him. Ait is foolish, childish, ignorant and borders on stalkery. James is pathetic. Shows no signs that he should direct traffic, let alone a series. How many times did his producer have to wake him out of his reverie? Directors are IN CHARGE! James was a lost puppy. And when on day one, you are told that directors/actors cannot date - maybe try to be a little secretive about it. These two practically flaunt it. If you're both so scared about the consequences, then try a little harder. Ridiculous.
Didn't buy the love story either. Okay, love at first sight. No real reasons for liking a person other than their looks and a general "feeling." I suppose it happens. And when confronted with the questions... "what do you even like about me", another classic answer. "Why are you asking?" BECAUSE I WANT TO KNOW YOUR FEELINGS, A-HOLE. But did not get any real chemistry between the leads at all. Ait was fine at being cute and flirty, but no true substance. James had zero going on. And Marco goes from being heartbroken to new potential BF in one scene. How much sympathy can I have for him when he is clearly not that affected?
I am curious to find out how they tie up the loose ends, but I'll just get that info online. I'm not going to bother watching S2 of this drek.
Such a sad waste.
Bank, oh, Bank. Forget that Pitch guy. I'll treat you like the King you are.
And I'm sure this "camping trip/charity service" is a big part of Thai life -- but does it have to be in soooo many BL's? I mean, you've at least given us a relatively under-serviced premise with the bodyguard/mafia son idea, how about coming up with new scenarios instead of retreading this one for the 100th time.