A very unrealistic. The novel itself never mentions it. The anime added this but they made it more logical for…
No I was answering to the comment about the donghua, that's why I wrote "a very long part" (as you say: several episodes: I was loooking specifically to find what the donghua had as model for the drama... ). In the drama, we only see extremely short snippets about their youth. There should be some about SiYiLin and Di Lin' youth as well, but if they have already been shown, I must have been sleeping... Can't remember where. If someone does, please point me to right track ?
I wonder why since Cdramas are allowed to have 40 episodes. Is there a new 36eps limit?Perhaps they decided it's…
yes there is..... so the longer ones should be "cut in two parts, with second part released.... after 6 months delay if they were not filmed before the reg came in, and did not get a waiver.
For me, since I have watched the anime, it's not her character which is problematic. I do understand that they…
yes, she IS listed as FL and well... even if it clearly the original story is not a romance centric story, the scriptwriters tweaked in too much of that here in terms of screen time. I admit it warps the story towards what it should not be. Hoping these eps 15-18 will now leave rest of time for the real story.
A very unrealistic. The novel itself never mentions it. The anime added this but they made it more logical for…
Yes. There is also a very long part about their childhood chasing butterflies where poor Xiu got seriously whipped by stepdad because he wanted to please her...
It IS a fantasy story, so realism .... orcs, dwarves, and so on... Even logic is not to be trusted too much, given…
Ning must have been the "sleeping beauty" from fairy tales, struck by a sleeping curse at age 6, recently woken up to find herself still orphan but brother Xiu was coming back for some more fun. We even have a washing feet scene that furiously had me thinking: where are the glass slippers, and the cardboard cutout prince? We did hear about dwarves, even if we didn't see them yet. Could we imagine that model as forgotten to be shown back story to make sense of her portrayal here ?
I was thinking : which song does that drama make me think of? Well here are the lyrics :
Hiding from the rain and snow Trying to forget, but I won't let go Looking at a crowded street Listening to my own heartbeat … So many people all around the world Tell me, where do I find someone like you, girl? … Take me to your heart, take me to your soul Give me your hand before I'm old Show me what love is, haven't got a clue Show me that wonders can be true...
lol how blood thirsty you ! The script missed an opportunity in the forest, when only the horse got eaten. But in the novel, and donghua, she does have a role to play, even is she is not the real focus of the story, so we must endure her charmed life continuing.
I really thought those dudes at the tavern were going to rob her after giving the instructions to the fortress
I thought she might get raped and roasted, eaten .... lol No sense of caution from that brat, flaunting her wealth and yummy streaked pork meat like skin. No pig brain on her...
I blame the writers, too. It feels like she is taking a similar trajectory to Zhao Lusi's character Leyan in The…
My view on the matter is that Xiu is her favorite plaything or pet, so Ning is still not ready to let go for other pets /friends. Anyway, she has been kept away from other possible male prospective friends since her childhood, and she grew up without a mother to teach her how a young lady should think and behave. She doesn't seem to have been well taught in literature and arts : she did not know how to play the qin until she was taught by Mingyue on orders from Xiu ; she had no interest in Xiu's porn books and did not look like she read novels. She spends her time looking at clothes and cosmetics, not even to show off, and she loved her horse (but we only saw that late, as if the scriptwriter thought she was living too much in a vacuum, or as if she had been struck by a sleeping beauty spell since her 6th birthday.). So it was amusing to see her back in the crowd to stand beside Xiu's lieutenants as if she could trust that they could protect her like if she was a child. (ep18) But she was closer to recently met Bai Chuan and Ka Dan as possible friends, or to her maid Mei who had stayed with her many years but would not dare teach her how to grow up. Not real friends, all, but perhaps a little, especially since her and Ka Dan's crushes were somewhat similar in circumstantial opposition. She had not had time to learn anything from them. She appears to be a very lonely person who mourns that she has to grow up without a beacon to guide her (ep.5, the drunk scene). Xiu couldn't teach her either, because he was forbidden to get too close to her by the Chieftain who hated him. He had not much experience in love life since he too, was very young (about 20) but had not been encouraged to have girlfriends; his going to the brothel was clearly not to enjoy forbidden pleasures as much as to get information : even Bai Chuan ended up convinced of that reason. Besides, he had mixed feelings of loyalty to other causes too, and acting as shepherd dog to a spoiled child was not what he wanted to do forever.
I don't mind Ning unlike many commenters here. She is literally a teenage even though the actress is 30.
She is supposed to be barely 18, and have lived a sheltered life in the Palace until episode 17, where she was allowed all her whims except roaming unsupervised in the city or outside city gates.
Are Zichuan Xiu and Zichuan Ning siblings? If not not are they into some sort of romance?
They are not blood related. Xiu was adopted by Ning's father but more like a foster perhaps hostage of the Lin family, his birth name, often mentioned by current Chieftain, is Lin He. He acted as elder brother to Ning who had a crush on him since childhood, but rather like a child who exclusively loves a favorite playmate or pet. She grew up without changing her childish ways of throwing tantrums if her favorite did not show complete obedience and dedication to her whims, but her affection grew into a love like obsession, so she would never accept Xiu's suggestion that she look for another boyfriend. She stayed fixated on him, when he stayed loyal to her, as he had been her elder brother-protector. The drama is not about romance, it is focused on alliances and loyalties. So don't look for loads of love and kisses and hot gazes. Even Ka Dan is aware that she is royalty and not free to choose who she will end up with. Ning thinks she has a choice, because she is the heir and should have power, but finds that it is not so easy. She is under control... What the focus is, is wars and uprisings, betrayals and how they are put down, tangled warrior brotherhoods that hold or not. There are some goofy moments, some sappy ones (not many), some gory ones (not too much), and the battle plans are as intricate as in war games. Other infos on the two and other characters : look in the character gallery https://kisskh.at/discussions/zi-chuan/123627-eternal-brotherhood-shooting-and-dates-location-and-more (the title in Discussion has been expanded since, with mention of the character gallery, but keeps stubbornly to this first "draft" version)
(new characters are being added as the story unfolds, but it you have a name, you can look it up in the alphabetical table where they are numbered by appearance, and clicking on number, you'll get to the relevant part of the character gallery. ) I try to keep the description at minimum spoilerish, so if you just want to know their role, read only the first lines, and not whole description.
The character gallery has some that are not listed on MDL, and the actors/actresses biographical notes are short, but should give you a good idea on who they are and what they already performed.
I initially quite liked this drama, the brotherhood, the political scheming, Liu Yu Ning’s pokerface…but I…
I admit it's a very dark story... Some more flashy red and gore might have helped ? Episode 12 got that, but not as flowing scarlet as some might like it. This drama does have GOT House of the Dragon spinoff vibes, also in lighting choices.
There's a new airing poster with clues. Added in photo section + in the companion piece in Discussions, together with a GIF from the sweet "forget me not" scene from Ep.14 ,as header for Character Directory part 3 which should include the last "new" characters, that are listed together with a short note on who was playing them (some are surprising: a rapper, an idol if mdl did not mistake him in including him in cast, an 82 years old veteran, an ex colleague in mini drama of Richard Li, a director of art troupes and CNY Gala shows (and in part 2 an actor who will be playing in Douluo Continent 2 upcoming drama which I thought was a buried project but which just released a Valentine's day poster in February).
Initially I had high hopes for this series, with the opening scene showing the greatness of ML's skills and the…
This is by no means a ROMANCE. Even in the donghua. If you are looking for romance, please leave and go watch the excellent Amidst A Snowstorm of Love, that ought to satisfy all your cravings. (I can't understand why romance aficionados come here to complain about the lack of romantic scenes! Like looking for birthday cakes in an armory... )
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In the drama, we only see extremely short snippets about their youth. There should be some about SiYiLin and Di Lin' youth as well, but if they have already been shown, I must have been sleeping... Can't remember where. If someone does, please point me to right track ?
Hoping these eps 15-18 will now leave rest of time for the real story.
We even have a washing feet scene that furiously had me thinking: where are the glass slippers, and the cardboard cutout prince?
We did hear about dwarves, even if we didn't see them yet.
Could we imagine that model as forgotten to be shown back story to make sense of her portrayal here ?
but given the reactions here, I am not sure it would air...
Hiding from the rain and snow
Trying to forget, but I won't let go
Looking at a crowded street
Listening to my own heartbeat
… So many people all around the world
Tell me, where do I find someone like you, girl?
… Take me to your heart, take me to your soul
Give me your hand before I'm old
Show me what love is, haven't got a clue
Show me that wonders can be true...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbLT12eg-lw sung by the super celeb Danish group who adapted a Chinese song by Jacky Cheung : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-h-SvbJ-8E
The script missed an opportunity in the forest, when only the horse got eaten.
But in the novel, and donghua, she does have a role to play, even is she is not the real focus of the story, so we must endure her charmed life continuing.
Even logic is not to be trusted too much, given the genre.
No sense of caution from that brat, flaunting her wealth and yummy streaked pork meat like skin. No pig brain on her...
Anyway, she has been kept away from other possible male prospective friends since her childhood, and she grew up without a mother to teach her how a young lady should think and behave. She doesn't seem to have been well taught in literature and arts : she did not know how to play the qin until she was taught by Mingyue on orders from Xiu ; she had no interest in Xiu's porn books and did not look like she read novels. She spends her time looking at clothes and cosmetics, not even to show off, and she loved her horse (but we only saw that late, as if the scriptwriter thought she was living too much in a vacuum, or as if she had been struck by a sleeping beauty spell since her 6th birthday.).
So it was amusing to see her back in the crowd to stand beside Xiu's lieutenants as if she could trust that they could protect her like if she was a child. (ep18)
But she was closer to recently met Bai Chuan and Ka Dan as possible friends, or to her maid Mei who had stayed with her many years but would not dare teach her how to grow up. Not real friends, all, but perhaps a little, especially since her and Ka Dan's crushes were somewhat similar in circumstantial opposition. She had not had time to learn anything from them.
She appears to be a very lonely person who mourns that she has to grow up without a beacon to guide her (ep.5, the drunk scene).
Xiu couldn't teach her either, because he was forbidden to get too close to her by the Chieftain who hated him. He had not much experience in love life since he too, was very young (about 20) but had not been encouraged to have girlfriends; his going to the brothel was clearly not to enjoy forbidden pleasures as much as to get information : even Bai Chuan ended up convinced of that reason. Besides, he had mixed feelings of loyalty to other causes too, and acting as shepherd dog to a spoiled child was not what he wanted to do forever.
He acted as elder brother to Ning who had a crush on him since childhood, but rather like a child who exclusively loves a favorite playmate or pet. She grew up without changing her childish ways of throwing tantrums if her favorite did not show complete obedience and dedication to her whims, but her affection grew into a love like obsession, so she would never accept Xiu's suggestion that she look for another boyfriend. She stayed fixated on him, when he stayed loyal to her, as he had been her elder brother-protector.
The drama is not about romance, it is focused on alliances and loyalties. So don't look for loads of love and kisses and hot gazes. Even Ka Dan is aware that she is royalty and not free to choose who she will end up with. Ning thinks she has a choice, because she is the heir and should have power, but finds that it is not so easy. She is under control...
What the focus is, is wars and uprisings, betrayals and how they are put down, tangled warrior brotherhoods that hold or not. There are some goofy moments, some sappy ones (not many), some gory ones (not too much), and the battle plans are as intricate as in war games.
Other infos on the two and other characters : look in the character gallery
https://kisskh.at/discussions/zi-chuan/123627-eternal-brotherhood-shooting-and-dates-location-and-more (the title in Discussion has been expanded since, with mention of the character gallery, but keeps stubbornly to this first "draft" version)
(new characters are being added as the story unfolds, but it you have a name, you can look it up in the alphabetical table where they are numbered by appearance, and clicking on number, you'll get to the relevant part of the character gallery. )
I try to keep the description at minimum spoilerish, so if you just want to know their role, read only the first lines, and not whole description.
The character gallery has some that are not listed on MDL, and the actors/actresses biographical notes are short, but should give you a good idea on who they are and what they already performed.
Added in photo section
+ in the companion piece in Discussions, together with a GIF from the sweet "forget me not" scene from Ep.14 ,as header for Character Directory part 3 which should include the last "new" characters, that are listed together with a short note on who was playing them (some are surprising: a rapper, an idol if mdl did not mistake him in including him in cast, an 82 years old veteran, an ex colleague in mini drama of Richard Li, a director of art troupes and CNY Gala shows (and in part 2 an actor who will be playing in Douluo Continent 2 upcoming drama which I thought was a buried project but which just released a Valentine's day poster in February).
If you are looking for romance, please leave and go watch the excellent Amidst A Snowstorm of Love, that ought to satisfy all your cravings. (I can't understand why romance aficionados come here to complain about the lack of romantic scenes! Like looking for birthday cakes in an armory... )