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Replying to FatimaEineh Mar 4, 2025
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I think this drama quite matches to her personality.Realism is her typeBailu fits so perfectly for this one
yes, she is from Changzhou, a city through which flows the Ancient Canal, a branch of the Grand Canal. Not far from Wuxi and Suzhou, and the place where Northward was filmed especially funded as a project to showcase the Canal culture. She also knows how to speak the Wu dialect; it was fun to listen to in "Forever and Ever", which was set in some beautiful and interesting towns of the area, from Zhenjiang in Jiangsu to Wuzhen in close neighboring Zhejian province.
Replying to 13688664 Mar 4, 2025
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Don't wait for douban, bailu haters already posted and gathered to rate it 1 star, so any drama of Bailu expect…
Absolutely. Let's just enjoy, talk about it, spread our opposing views to the herd of deluded haters. We know how it works. Let's hope Bai Lu will not get affected by the cyberbullying : it is so toxic, what some do there.
Let's focus on the fact that it reached commendable heat index already and also has people who propel it to good standing in views and reviews. And on the contents of the drama.

Youtube reviewers ; you mean AvX...? we all know her biases; but she admitted when mentioning the drama on her way out of raving about Nezha2 that the cast is strong and pro, so she can't trash the drama to pieces as easily as she does for her abhorred "idol dramas". (I watched that episode because I was curious about the cinema she showcased in Shanghai, that is a different technology from IMAX, but am still not aligned with her views and reviews about recent dramas, with a few exceptions.)
Of course there are also other new YT "reviewers" who feel they can't live without baring their dim witted reactions and exposing their lack of knowledge about what they watch, even their gross mistakes in offering a "synopsis" of sorts. I am amazed that these still get followers.
Replying to Nature Granger Mar 4, 2025
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It's mainstream drama so international always somewhat low maybe it's pickup later but it's doing so good in China…
glad for the domestic liking ; response may be less enthusiastic for international audience who prefer simple romances and view with doubts slice of life and recent history stories coming from China, dismissing such from their own bias.
Replying to asphyxia Mar 4, 2025
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It can take more than a day to load in
There's that too
Replying to pixka777 Mar 4, 2025
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I just enjoyed watching the first 4 episodes but I just knew that it’d would be good one! Early rating from…
nice that this good starting drama already has earned some sincere fans!
Replying to princess dami Mar 4, 2025
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why are there no ratings
The drama is still in starting episodes; I am not surprised that people who watch need more time to make their own opinion, instead of parroting those who rate without having watched, from other readings of social media, or from bts, previews, other promotional items...
Replying to whoissilmoy Mar 4, 2025
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Vanda Margraf is a natural talent. I don't think she went to acting school either. She's a dancer, I think. Not…
I created an illustrated Mini profile for her in Discussions section, so people here (me included) may get to know some more about this actress :
https://kisskh.at/discussions/740015-bei-shang/136908-mini-profile-of-vanda-margraf-emerging-star-actress
You can learn interesting things there about her further to her academic background
Replying to Alila Nguyen Mar 4, 2025
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“you are really photogenic”BL: flashed the ugliest face she could ever pulled 🤣🤣🤣🤣
and she does not lack humor!
Replying to Li Peiyi Mar 4, 2025
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Some people were wondering about the technique used to tan Bai Lu.Here is a post of one of the make up artist/stylist…
yes, I'd seen that in the Discussions section although not down to the gritty details you share : Bai Lu is both beautiful, talented, dedicated to her art, and courageous + nice to most around her and a faithful friend to those who are/were close : a nice soul!
Replying to Frost_edelweiss Mar 4, 2025
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The snippet of B&W footage of "old movie" in Italian was meant to introduce Ma Siyi, the young Eurasian girl who…
looking forward to that!
btw do you have the link to that interview?
Replying to Frost_edelweiss Mar 4, 2025
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The snippet of B&W footage of "old movie" in Italian was meant to introduce Ma Siyi, the young Eurasian girl who…
Yes I noticed that the story in the novel translation starts much earlier, the drama only kept "1901", and names are different too. Still, it is highly doubtful that the guy in 1901 is the son of Granny Ma :)
We will surely get more about that background later?
Unless the focus is (as I suspect), going to veer very much away from Ma Siyi, and the new Marco Polo, to center on Xia Fenghua znd her closest friend.
On Northward Mar 4, 2025
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To shed some light on the mysterious B&W "old movie" intro, here is a snippet from the first part of the novel :

"....Are you looking for someone?”
“You’ve noticed already,” Xiao Boluo said. “That’s why I asked you to stay. My brother.”
“Fedel?”
“Yes. Fedel. Fedel Dimak.”
“In China?”

“I don’t know if he’s still alive. If he is, he should be living along the Grand Canal. He’s the true expert on the canal. He loves canals, he enjoys water, and he cherishes every place with water. Fedel has always loved Venice since he was young. When he learned about the Grand Canal in China, he was determined to come here. In his letters home, he said that the greatness of the Grand Canal is something you can never imagine in Venice. He’s the one meant to be today’s Marco Polo.”

“Not sure if he’s still alive? What does that mean?”
“He came to China through military service. Last year, you know, the Boxers, the Qing government, they clashed, and there has been no news since then.”
“Sorry to hear that.”
“War, no one can escape it.”

[..........]

Tears welled up in Xiao Boluo’s eyes, yet his expression was one of a smile. The grim reaper, cloaked in black, was inching towards his forehead. With his final strength, Xiao Boluo grasped Xie Pingyao’s hand and said, “Brother.”

............. On a nearby official boat, people were discussing canal transportation.

One of them said, “This might be the last trip.”
Another asked, “Is it going to be abolished?”
“The news came from the palace.”

In the year 1901, in the reign of Emperor Guangxu, on the second day of the seventh month, equivalent to August 15th in the Gregorian calendar, the edict to abolish canal transportation was issued.

In the year 1901, in the reign of Emperor Guangxu, on the twentieth day of the sixth month, equivalent to August 4th in the Gregorian calendar, the Italian Paolo Dimak died on a boat on the Tongzhou Canal." [up in the northern, Beiping/Beijing end of the Grand Canal]
Replying to 13688664 Mar 4, 2025
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They painted Bai Lu with something but I don't know about the rest of the cast
In that period, the grown girls and women often wore large hats, even vendors of ice creams on the streets of Shanghai did, when they carried those ice creams kept cool in an aluminum foil lined wrapped in a towel basket (I was a little dubious, but those ice creams were actually good, and I never got sick consuming them, or having other street food there, or sugar cane juice freshly squeezed at the wet market.)
Some, on bicycles, wore strange umbrella-like hats strapped to head (I suppose also useful in rain, although if it poured down they would don large waterproof capes in light colors) : I was amazed by those, spotted in Shanghai, Suzhou, Changzhou in the early and mid 1990s, when I was a frequent visitor (family there). But it was a fad: I did not see them in the 2000s any longer. Instead, women and even men used sunscreen as a daily skin care from the mid 2000s. Or sensible sunhats.
The need for a hat became less important as covered cars became more popular.
Women also often used umbrellas. I had a foreigner friend who scoffed at the silliness of using umbrellas, but the women of China were already aware of the risk of skin cancer for those who let themselves be tanned too much.
We also looked for shade and space and would not stay 故意 in the sun like "mad dogs and Englishmen". (Always amused by that song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tJjwBWBbX4)

The kids sure did not bother. They liked to bathe in the heat of summer, and do all sorts of shenanigans. Just not jump in the canal: the water was very polluted, at least around where I was. There were swimming pools, also open air ones, which were better. But we did not leave the children out in the midday sun either lol
Replying to 13688664 Mar 3, 2025
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They painted Bai Lu with something but I don't know about the rest of the cast
water resistant makeup? the kids dived and swam a few times.
Replying to 13688664 Mar 3, 2025
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They painted Bai Lu with something but I don't know about the rest of the cast
Do you think they "tanned" a kid ?!
Replying to Frost_edelweiss Mar 3, 2025
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The snippet of B&W footage of "old movie" in Italian was meant to introduce Ma Siyi, the young Eurasian girl who…
Maths don't add up. A person shown as adult in 1901 must be born latest in the 1880s and I strongly doubt the Granny Ma is older than 60 in 2000. Meaning born around 1940 and adult around 1960. retirement age in China for women was 55 years old.
There certainly was an Italian family which fled to China, probably in the late 1930s or in the 1940s, and "insulted the Japanese" if I remember the dialogue. Perhaps defectors from the fascist regime of Mussolini or people engaged in some profession like trade, diplomacy, journalism, we don't know what, which led them to Asia. They apparently settled in Shandong (I'd have thought it would be more likely Shanghai, Hong Kong, Beiping or even Dalian, Tianjin, Harbin, which had foreign communities living there at the time, but ok, there was also the former German port of Qingdao, Shandong.)
That's where Ma Siyi was born.
Her dad was terminally ill and her mother remarried with a bully and perhaps pedophile, so she sent her daughter Siyi away to her former mother in law, for the child's protection.
What connection Siyi's dad had to the Italian ancestors is unclear. Was he an Italian adoptive son of granny Ma? Or the grandson of the Italian couple or Italian forefather? We have no clear idea yet.
Replying to 13688664 Mar 3, 2025
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They painted Bai Lu with something but I don't know about the rest of the cast
In Discussions, there is a mention that production thought Bai Lu was "too pretty", so they had her cut her hair, wear dental braces, be tanned... And Bai Lu, good sport, submitted to all that to "fit the role". I think the rest of the cast escaped the torture.
Replying to RAMking Mar 3, 2025
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Not many watches these type of dramas, even some hardcore fans also avoids them bcz it will not have Romance like…
Sure, but one flavor of tea is not my preferred taste.
I had my fill of love and kisses with Rainkissed Fate, so was looking forward to watch something different. Why not a more serious proposition bringing me back to familiar haunts in the Jiangnan.
I am also having loads of fun with Filter.
Replying to Frost_edelweiss Mar 3, 2025
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The snippet of B&W footage of "old movie" in Italian was meant to introduce Ma Siyi, the young Eurasian girl who…
It is unlikely that the character in 1901 could be the son of granny Ma... I thought it was an ancestor foreigner who married into her family some when before like the grandma told Ma Siyi. By the start of this drama, the son of granny Ma is dead, if I'm not mistaken?
Did you read the book?