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Replying to Lyly Dramas Aug 15, 2024
Anyone find the OSTs ?
Do pin links for it in Discussions section if you find it !
It's rather thrilling tunes.
Replying to -Unkown- Aug 15, 2024
The kissing scene here is on another level 🔥
I was amazed, and riveted, it sure looked real - and not one but many ! 🔥🔥🔥
Replying to Leo Aug 15, 2024
where’s the wedding scene they shot? there was a photo of them in wedding attire!
aha, perhaps you could add it in the photo section?
Replying to shiyan666 Aug 15, 2024
im so sad when im thinking about the real life of Uyghur Muslims who lives in xianging and uromchi.... god save…
You ought to schedule a travel time just to visit and check for yourself... It's perfectly safe and no problem to go visit Urumqi and Kashgar to meet the Uighurs, and also to sample their delicious food specialties, including the seedless grapes grown in Turpan (also worth visiting as both a beautiful oasis and a modern town on the edge of the Takla Makan desert).

The only difficulty is that it is not cheap, not for backpackers if you are not familiar with the languages.

Visa needed is the ordinary tourist one, no special permit is compulsory to visit Xinjiang
But know that it is even possible to visit China without needing a visa, for those countries included in the recent experiment of visa-free entry : "Visa-Free Access to China: If you're from France, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, Spain, Austria, Belgium, Hungary, Ireland, Luxembourg, Switzerland, Malaysia, New Zealand, Australia, and Poland, you can visit China visa-free for 15 days until December 31st, 2025. If you're from Singapore, you can relish visa-free access to China for up to 30 days." Long enough to book your tour to the Xinjiang after sampling highlights of Hong Kong, Shanghai, Beijing or wherever your international flight takes you.

Of course, you'll need to do some real research to make the most of your tour (start with the videos of travelers, ground and birds eye footage, read up on travelers experiences ; go back a century or more in documents from various sources if you can for perspective ; check local customs like how to visit a Muslim home in the Xinjiang ; what the people value in culture and handicrafts ; rules for haggling, eating, what is taboo in gestures, things, and speech ; keep a map with the location of nearest high class hotel if you need basic comfort you are used to from home for restrooms : access to the ones in the lobby are often easy to get to ; safety rules -despite China is mostly the safest country to travel to, and it's safe to ask politely for help from strangers, don't let yourself be targeted by shady or overeager people who might scam you -know local prices...) + remember that a traveler is most often viewed as an informal ambassador of his/her home country, so politeness and genuine interest should be showed to strike up talks in a civilized and non imperialistic, non superior-acting, non aggressive way. It does take time to prepare a fruitful trip where you come home with more than just a collection of personal pictures and videos of places that are already on the Net. The disconnected from reality and sensationalist media that you find more easily in the West, spins fantasies about China that are, unfortunately, often toxic disinformation nowadays. Don't blurt out stupidity from those "sources" if you can help it!
On Lost You, Found You Aug 13, 2024
Title Lost You, Found You Spoiler
"Temporarily unavailable in your location" WeTV should not restrict its paying subscribers...
Well, I'll unlock it elsewhere, wtf. https://kisskh.co/Drama/Lost-You--Found-You?id=9323

Wondered why i had not watched it as it aired, put it on account of Olympics and Vengo Gao watching, but no : it was merely geo-restricted, and so I did not notice it. Not cool for DGZ, who could benefit from wider audiences. Well, here I go for quick binge watch, then...
On The Tale of Rose Aug 13, 2024
Checking back to add the standing of The Tale of Rose in the 10 most watched TV shows in China for 9 weeks now.
Interestingly the Douban rating rose again, to 7.4 (steadily climbing from the 7.1 opening, when many audiences were still surprised by this not so usual family romance /psychological itinerary of a woman from wild art student to mature woman soon entering middle age.)

I also added the full credits for composers, lyrics writers, arrangement and producers, in addition to the complete OST listing with singers. The original WeTV OST MVs have the picture of singers; to know more about them, just click on their names in the list on the Companion piece, music section.
This OST is very good, among the best, perhaps the best, for 2024.

https://kisskh.at/discussions/the-story-of-rose/126207-the-story-of-the-rose-miscellaneous-details
On The Story of Cloud Mountain Aug 11, 2024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFgpSuVuYXQ (2h50)

""The Legend of Tianyun Mountain" is a film directed by Chinese director Xie Jin in 1980. It is adapted from Lu Yanzhou's novel "The Mountain is Red with Cuckoos". It is a film that reflects on the "anti-rightist" movement. At that time, it aroused widespread and strong social repercussions. The film won the 1981 Chinese Film "Golden Rooster Award" for Best Feature Film, Best Director, Best Cinematography, and Best Art Award, and the "Popular Film" "Hundred Flowers Award" for Best Feature Film.

Synopsis : In the early 1950s, Song Wei and Feng Qinglan, who had just graduated from school, joined the Tianyun Mountain expedition team. At that time, Luo Qun took over Wu Yao's position and served as the political commissar of the expedition team. The inspection work was lively and lively, and Song Wei and Luo Qun truly fell in love with each other. In 1957, Song Wei was transferred to the Party School to study. In the subsequent anti-rightist movement, Wu Yao, the leader of the movement, first classified Luo Qun as a rightist and sent him back to the countryside to supervise labor. Song Wei was forced to draw a clear line with Luo Qun and marry Wu Yao. One day, Feng Qinglan suddenly came to Luo Qun, willing to be a teacher there, and fell deeply in love with Luo Qun while getting along. Luo Qun was seriously ill, and Feng Jinglan dragged him to his residence with difficulty in the wind and snow. Soon they got married. During the Cultural Revolution, Luo Qun was criticized and Feng Qinglan was tortured to death in order to protect his manuscripts. Wu Yao was later re-employed as deputy secretary of the prefectural committee and director of organization, but he ignored Luo Qun's unjust case, and Song Wei had a sharp conflict with him. Luo Qun's rightist mistakes were finally corrected, but Feng Qinglan passed away due to illness. Both Luo Qun and Song Wei came to Feng's cemetery to mourn silently" (tr from YouTube presentation)

The cc option gives the running commentary of the director to the movie in English version : "... This play is a serious drama,.."
On The Story of Cloud Mountain Aug 11, 2024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFgpSuVuYXQ (2h50)

""The Legend of Tianyun Mountain" is a film directed by Chinese director Xie Jin in 1980. It is adapted from Lu Yanzhou's novel "The Mountain is Red with Cuckoos". It is a film that reflects on the "anti-rightist" movement. At that time, it aroused widespread and strong social repercussions. The film won the 1981 Chinese Film "Golden Rooster Award" for Best Feature Film, Best Director, Best Cinematography, and Best Art Award, and the "Popular Film" "Hundred Flowers Award" for Best Feature Film.

Synopsis : In the early 1950s, Song Wei and Feng Qinglan, who had just graduated from school, joined the Tianyun Mountain expedition team. At that time, Luo Qun took over Wu Yao's position and served as the political commissar of the expedition team. The inspection work was lively and lively, and Song Wei and Luo Qun truly fell in love with each other. In 1957, Song Wei was transferred to the Party School to study. In the subsequent anti-rightist movement, Wu Yao, the leader of the movement, first classified Luo Qun as a rightist and sent him back to the countryside to supervise labor. Song Wei was forced to draw a clear line with Luo Qun and marry Wu Yao. One day, Feng Qinglan suddenly came to Luo Qun, willing to be a teacher there, and fell deeply in love with Luo Qun while getting along. Luo Qun was seriously ill, and Feng Jinglan dragged him to his residence with difficulty in the wind and snow. Soon they got married. During the Cultural Revolution, Luo Qun was criticized and Feng Qinglan was tortured to death in order to protect his manuscripts. Wu Yao was later re-employed as deputy secretary of the prefectural committee and director of organization, but he ignored Luo Qun's unjust case, and Song Wei had a sharp conflict with him. Luo Qun's rightist mistakes were finally corrected, but Feng Qinglan passed away due to illness. Both Luo Qun and Song Wei came to Feng's cemetery to mourn silently" (tr from YouTube presentation)

The cc option gives the running commentary of the director to the movie in English version : "... This play is a serious drama,.."
On The Story of Cloud Mountain Aug 11, 2024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFgpSuVuYXQ (2h50)

""The Legend of Tianyun Mountain" is a film directed by Chinese director Xie Jin in 1980. It is adapted from Lu Yanzhou's novel "The Mountain is Red with Cuckoos". It is a film that reflects on the "anti-rightist" movement. At that time, it aroused widespread and strong social repercussions. The film won the 1981 Chinese Film "Golden Rooster Award" for Best Feature Film, Best Director, Best Cinematography, and Best Art Award, and the "Popular Film" "Hundred Flowers Award" for Best Feature Film.

Synopsis : In the early 1950s, Song Wei and Feng Qinglan, who had just graduated from school, joined the Tianyun Mountain expedition team. At that time, Luo Qun took over Wu Yao's position and served as the political commissar of the expedition team. The inspection work was lively and lively, and Song Wei and Luo Qun truly fell in love with each other. In 1957, Song Wei was transferred to the Party School to study. In the subsequent anti-rightist movement, Wu Yao, the leader of the movement, first classified Luo Qun as a rightist and sent him back to the countryside to supervise labor. Song Wei was forced to draw a clear line with Luo Qun and marry Wu Yao. One day, Feng Qinglan suddenly came to Luo Qun, willing to be a teacher there, and fell deeply in love with Luo Qun while getting along. Luo Qun was seriously ill, and Feng Jinglan dragged him to his residence with difficulty in the wind and snow. Soon they got married. During the Cultural Revolution, Luo Qun was criticized and Feng Qinglan was tortured to death in order to protect his manuscripts. Wu Yao was later re-employed as deputy secretary of the prefectural committee and director of organization, but he ignored Luo Qun's unjust case, and Song Wei had a sharp conflict with him. Luo Qun's rightist mistakes were finally corrected, but Feng Qinglan passed away due to illness. Both Luo Qun and Song Wei came to Feng's cemetery to mourn silently" (tr from YouTube presentation)

The cc option gives the running commentary of the director to the movie in English version : "... This play is a serious drama,.."
On The Red Detachment of Women Aug 11, 2024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yADSY-0chyk&t=2737s
"The Red Detachment of Women (Simplified: 红色娘子军, Traditional: 紅色孃子軍, Pinyin: hóngsèniángzijūn) is a 1961 film. It is set in the 1930s and involves two peasant women who go into class warfare" Colors on this recording are not very good, but there are English subtitles.

Watch also The Red Detachment of Women : the 1970 Chinese filmed performance of Chinese ballet which premiered in 1964 which was made one of the Eight Model Operas which dominated the national stage during the Cultural Revolution. Breath taking choreography packed with spectacular feats. Directors: Fu Jie, Wenzhan Pan
Cast: Liu Qingtang, Xue Jinghua, Wan Qiwu, Ching-hua Ching, Sing Siang Lo, Cheng-xiang Li, Li Xinying, Chu Sha, Song Chen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoKNw1BDgIw&t=2772s (1h41)
The recording is somewhat blurry, but still watchable.
The Ballet is still performed at times on major scenes, in China and abroad (Melbourne, Helsinki : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbMt0I7EuwA (3'06) etc) and the music has also been included in concerts.
Enigma05 Aug 7, 2024
I agree with Krish728 and with most of what you wrote.

But I felt different about the clothes: in the beginning, Ji Xing was just a techie not interested in fashion, therefore overly made up when she asked Tu Xiaomeng for help in her first "business meeting". Also, not rich since she put all her money into savings in view of her purchase of an apartment.
Later, the need for purchasing an apartment became secondary (especially when she went to live with Han Ting) She had more money to spend on clothes and makeup, and lessons in fashion and bags from Lili paid off to change her techie/college girl/would-be decent "matron" sense of uniform. Therefore the appearance of branded bags for her start rather late in the drama, and that's realistic.
Zeng Di and Lili were much richer and successful in business before Ji Xing started to change her appearance : that's also why Lili could afford dropping fashion purchases and instead lend Ji Xing a hefty sum in the 3d printer scam episode. The pricey Valextra bag was a gift from XYX to Lili : I wondered if Lili had returned it when she broke up with that wealthy boyfriend....

Otherwise, I also enjoyed the drama, although I counted a few more antagonists that you did :Zhu Lei of Guanghua+ Zhang Fengmei's husband....

About the latter, there was a mirror to the "superman effect" that you noted, so I would say that was a "supergirl" one, when she recklessly went to the digs of Zhang Fengmei to persuade her, and next, started filming the husband beating the bed ridden wife, confronting him (without alerting the police) and finally rushed amidst obstacles and down concrete stairs in ... high heels!! Even though Ji Xing was petite, I can't believe she did not have more practical running shoes somewhere, and could not have thought to use those instead of coming like a fashion model in a rather run-down and possibly dangerous neighborhood...
Same as the mattress oddity in the kidnapping episode, Han Ting and reinforcement appeared just too coincidentally, to save her from having her remaining brains bashed in by the brick (which ZFM husband kept carrying like a prize, while she was in the stairs right before him, an easy target to throw at. Why he did so is also beyond me)

It's true that despite Han Ting stayed infatuated with Ji Xing since college because of her ideas vibing same as his, her idealism, and because of her love of cats (in fact, that's the part where Seven was least convincing: she clearly is not a great friend of felines - she is a dog person), all that was not convincing enough for me to see him overlook her widely different views on life and love. Logically, he should have been disappointed long before the "name dropping and teaching her a lesson" episode (that scene was one of the best acted!). He should logically have broken the spell from the moment she ran away to avoid him, long before she started rummaging into his safe in search of "damning evidence", proof that her conception of love and trust were rather flimsy.

Han Ting was too good to be believable, to stay in love with her, when surely, such a good looking specimen must be coveted by other females, better looking and more successful. We only saw him pursued by a rather ugly actress "superstar", which was odd. Zeng Di surely looked better, but as you noted, her Gorilla glue tactics were not going to make her attractive for long, even if it was Xiao Yixiao who gifted the Gorilla lamp for Han Ting's office, and she only had a hand in the decoration of his apartment. Han Ting did not change it, so he did appreciate a little more than just her leadership for his investment in Guanghua company. I thought she must have been a first lover whom he fell out with for something like boredom or seven year itch. For all his claims that he had been too busy in Germany, he did not look like a virgin in the seducing night episode : he woke up too well rested (before Ji Xing), to tend to business discussions -in German!- over the phone while letting sweet thing rest longer. So okay, he did not lie saying he had not fallen for a German girl back then, yet guys can be so contradictory!

But... aaah, I still liked that drama enough, warts and all, with its imperfections, so same as you, I felt lenient about those flaws, and also awarded the drama a generous 9.5, hiked up from my initial 8.5
(I am now finishing the same drama that you followed up with yesterday ;-) but since I am rather tired, now, I will just leave a rating there tomorrow, and pause drama watching for some vacation).

PS. Ah, so you like Tina Turner too. I was thinking about that song as well, although I mentioned another in the comments : Can the can by Suzi Quatro. Suitably nonsensical to fit some of the actions in the drama ! although it was in answer to a typo.
On As Beautiful As You Special Aug 7, 2024
Just noticed that this extra episode got filed separately. Of course, I watched it last month when it aired. A nice supplement, although not totally necessary.

I had already added the kids in the Companion piece to the main drama, which I made over the past weeks, housed in discussion section of the main drama page. The kids are the only "new characters" here, and just for a few glimpses.
But the concept as a whole, starting in the middle, going to end, and recycling back to beginning, was rather nicely carried out. Falling leaves return to their roots, as the Chinese saying goes.

Nevertheless, since we saw the small kids, there was a sense of something missing : so odd, that there was no further mention even in kaleidoscopic pictures of that new generation, no diploma to be proud of, no visit with possible grandchildren... (Did they die in an accident ???) The extra episode was focusing too much on the couple as if the world did not exist, and as if their company was led by others once they got married. Therefore, just 9/10 for the pretty nutshell.
Replying to Enigma05 Aug 7, 2024
Title Snowfall
I had a feeling the ending would be bittersweet; but why change from a happy ending to this is beyond me and plus…
Dear Enigma : perhaps you could put a spoiler tag ? To keep that end enigmatic ? For those who are still watching
Replying to KaKaShi17 Aug 7, 2024
Title Snowfall
What is it?
Good to know you like it that much. I'm not through with it yet 😂
I don't mind tragic ends so either way, HE or not, I don't think it'll faze me to dislike the drama. Up till now, I am pleased enough, despite some discrepancies I feel about the logic in some details.
Replying to DD_rules Aug 7, 2024
Title Snowfall
WORST ACTOR IN WORST ACTING ROLE YET: IMO, this Ryan Ren is the WORST Chinese actor with a very bad character-maniacal…
" Jiangshi fiction, revolving around the hopping vampire or zombie, is a subgenre of Chinese horror. A staple genre of Hong Kong cinema, jiangshi films blend horror with elements of comedy." Among the very first Chinese movies were blood sucking ghost ones, and China does not lack horror stories of various realms of Hell, both in traditional folklore and folk religion, depicted in temples such as in Fengdu ghost city, or in old Chinese operas like Mudan Ting.

The vampire story from Transylvania is a myth created by an Irish novelist called Bram Stoker, although the vampire theme goes back a little to a lesser known friend of Lord Byron, Mary Shelley and her husband. But that Vampyre was Greek, so the roots actually go back there to Greek mythology, where the goddesses were less blood thirsty than intent on turning men into pigs, or plain statues.

Nowhere does it say that Shen traveled to Transylvania or was infected by a traveling Transylvanian vampire ?

But I don't doubt that various influences may have tinged original writer's story, including the modern western vampire stories since the Lestat and Keanu Reeve's take on Dracula, rather than the ancient 1922 silent Nosferatu .

Although this has become somewhat dubious in light of newthought, I still remain a long time aficionado of that show here : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYZOFZrghqE (knowing most of those songs by heart! so I am among those who know what to expect and to chant in the interactive shows and movie version nights!) and that iconic movie : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLY0cgXcMVw (ball scene) They remain cult-following items, like other favorites such as 1994 Interview with the vampire (a clip here of the child one : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIm8HfwnmVE) which will be perhaps even better remembered than the youth stories of Twilight that comes to mind for most, when they think of Western vampires now. I still like the expressionist 1932 take of Danish Carl Theodor Dreyer on the theme : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAE3mBkes-g (interesting, that this psychological story is from another Irish author, Sheridan Le Fanu, also author of another classic vampire story : Carmilla)

Cheers for the vampire stories wherever they inspire new ones!

Now about RR. I think his character is meant to embody the atrocities committed by invaders and their henchmen in the 1930-1940s in China, so it is right to hate the character. The story is supposedly set in 1937 Shanghai. Not a place where justice reigned, it was rather famous also for bloodthirsty gangs like the Green Gang, much contributing to Shanghai's reputation as the vice capital of the world, also with the foreign concessions who wanted to keep their claws in the trades there.
Replying to Silje Aug 7, 2024
Title Snowfall
Chinese are masters in making posters
On Snowfall Aug 7, 2024
Title Snowfall
I am behind in watching, catching up, now at episode 10, but I came with a positive bias and still like the drama, the snow and gloom, and theatrical vampire "who does not hunt for human blood and sticks to chicken!" Also thinking the doctor must be the lost bro, although why so shy to admit it (suppose that will come to light later). Quite amused by the monomaniacal antagonist Li , and by finding Maggie Huang in another Jin xiaojie character (the other one was the brothelhouse/informants center owner in A Journey to Love): from the moment I spotted her, I thought hmm she reminds me of.... of course!

(I had not studied the cast before, just jumping in with no more bias than "I usually like horror/vampire stories, and this will be a nice change from business or costume dramas". So I let myself be surprised and sometimes delighted by the characters - including Ouyang Nana whom I already remembered from Secret Fruit and... -other dramas? Tang Jingmei (Miss Mu) I remember as playing “herself” in Meteor Garden 2017, “poison lady” in new Sword&Fairy 1, Li Dai (SFL competing with Yang Mi who was the FL ambitious lawyer vying to become partner in the law firm with "glass ceiling" against females) in She and Her Perfect Husband . Actually this is also only second Vengo Gao drama I watched. Happy to add another actor -and more- into my "interesting ones" list, now. )

Since I started, I went back to start of comments to find data about when this one was shot (from October 2021 to January 2022 - it was very much anticipated by a crowd but postponed many times, causing speculations as to why ? theme? contents? something/someone potentially offensive? Or just usual tardiness from platform, which also famously delayed airing for The Oath of Love for years? I skimmed the long Tumblr post (https://ashesforfoxes.tumblr.com/post/666095634 ) about the story. But not too attentively, so as not to be too spoiled or expecting. I also tried the early links to novel (but they drew 401) and despite noticing the link to https://www.kanunu8.com/book5/ruyue/ for the Chinese e-novel (pointed to by Haveninmuse in Discussions) I decided to just forge ahead and have a look at comments later. The one by Berbox (https://kisskh.at/707003-ru-yue#comment-1) made me laugh. The Peachey Blossoms snippets look interesting, but I watched only two before thinking I'd better watch the whole drama and not be stopped by those previews at my stage of watching.

Wondering when the reference to the troubled 1937 time will be more explicit. The tumblr post announced the setting as Shanghai French concession, and the antagonists being henchmen of the Japanese invaders, but it is not that clear in the first episodes (despite some sets have been reused from other dramas set in that period).

I liked the dropped reference to and interpretation of plight of Zhu Yingtai in the Butterfly Lover story when Shen took Mi Lan to enjoy a snippet of Chinese opera. Not sure all audience caught that: it's one of those Chinese culture references that get dropped in some dramas to vibe with audiences of Chinese world but which other culture audiences may find cryptic without explanation (like the one about that "calf" mention in the interview mentioned by favblanket (https://kisskh.at/707003-ru-yue#comment-1). Perhaps all these things should be pinned into a suitable Discussion so as not to be buried under the avalanche of comments about likes and feelings of many for characters, disconnected from these cultural references.

The three (cursed?) families mentioned in the opening, the arrival (pedestrian wise by train) of the Mu witch and her Lightning fast henchmen ; the (psychopomp?) raven depicted as something else by the mysterious "seer" who gifted to/imposed it on Shen: these bring in fantasy elements to widen the scope.

So, that was my comments pause part-ways before going back to this tangled story. I sure like the leads. But I have the feeling that the logic in script is sometimes lacking - or I did not understand it yet - but the drama' has got an addictive feeling nonetheless.
Replying to favblanket Aug 7, 2024
Title Snowfall Spoiler
I kinda understand what GWG means by " The original script initially did not limit Shen Zhiheng as a character.…
That scene (the ice bath) puzzled me for two or three reasons.

Where did he get the neat ice cubes from?

How come Mi Lan could not sense him when she could "smell" his scent as he was standing still far away in the first episodes?

Why did not he warn her simply to stay out of the bathroom because he was busy there, instead of "playing dead" and just watching her explore the bathroom with her stick and hands?

I thought perhaps it was in order to insert a "sweet scene" but no, it was staying on the dad-adopted daughter line despite the show off kiss (not sure why she kissed then? Had she bitten her tongue to make it bleed so the vampire could get some needed blood?)...