so they didn't get together till the end!? is there a love triangle and when fl fall fir ml if you remember (…
Actually I think if you are willing to spare some time then you could still watch the first 8 eps and then decide to drop based on your experience. My reason to watch the series was solely due to my strong crush on Kim Ji Eun and she delivered! Lomon who is the ML was a pleasant surprise.
so they didn't get together till the end!? is there a love triangle and when fl fall fir ml if you remember (…
They end up together at the end. There is love triangle but its neither serious nor the focal point of the show. Both the supporting ML and FL have nothing to do in the entire show most of the time. Chemistry between the leads is a rollercoaster ride.
so they didn't get together till the end!? is there a love triangle and when fl fall fir ml if you remember (…
I don't want to give any spoiler but this is not a usual rom-com which we are used to having fluffy romance and love triangles and "will they won't they" plot line. Its essentially a thriller which has some moments of intense romance sprinkled across the entire run time.
Physics will tell you there's always diffusion happening. It'll happen to the movie (or drama) industry. It already…
Bollywood is slowly getting there in terms of quality. Currently, there are many film industries other than Bollywood within India who are taking genuine risks and making really good experimental or high concept films out of which RRR is a very recent example. Though it did have physics defying action as you have quipped.
Regarding most of the writers being female, I also didn't gave much attention at first but then when I discovered this pattern I couldn't stop myself for knowing the writers and now I have a habit that I try to see who are writers behind the show apart from the starring actors.
Physics will tell you there's always diffusion happening. It'll happen to the movie (or drama) industry. It already…
Really thankful for your insights. I appreciate your thoughts as you are obviously vastly experienced than me in watching all types of Asian dramas. I had mostly watched Korean dramas and have never explored beyond the Korean peninsula. I would love to watch some heartwarming family oriented dramas from other regions as well someday.
Also, I think you are really kind to include Indian dramas as I being from India knows the sad reality of the quality of Indian Television daily soaps which are very mediocre at the best and straight garbage at the worst. Though for the past 6 years there has been increasingly really good Indian web series few of which are on par with International standard.
Also, when it comes to books, I am enamoured with Japanese mangas so thats my second favourite thing to do after watching K-Dramas. Don't know whether its true for other media but the fact that I am a male and most of the K-Dramas are predominantly written by women is something which I often look forward to in order to get a feminine perspective on life, relationships and society in general through their brilliant storytelling as in my country we very seldomly see their perspective.
The simp response, you think the artists and film makers will like you if you say this 🤢? They hate you the…
Yeah I am not gonna lie that I am indeed a simp, you caught me red handed.
Though I don't like bullies and never gave stupid justification as you have mentioned.
On "Novel concept or new actors", sadly thats the current reality we live in. And I don't mean foreingness at all. Take a real life example. Any upcoming K-Drama starring Lee Min Ho is more financially viable for the producer because of his global stardom but on the other hand any great drama having a new comer Korean actor although very talented is not perceived by the investors worth their money since they will consider it pretty risky. Thats the reason that Netflix produced a show like Squid game (which I know is a mediocre K-Drama at best) which none of the Korean studios could risk their money on and made it global.
I know that you get it, my purpose of writing the comment was to throw some light on the issue with a new perspective. Thats all. Apologies if I offended you in any manner.
Physics will tell you there's always diffusion happening. It'll happen to the movie (or drama) industry. It already…
I beg to slightly differ from you on the point that we are all tired of Western media and come to find Asian media. I think we are all tired of certain cliches and tropes which have plagued Western media more and thats why Korean media seems so refreshing. But even in Korean media, with time when you keep watching the same thing / trope again and again you lose your interest as well. I sometimes find myself in genuine K-Drama slump when nothing seems promising. So, it goes both ways IMO.
I strongly agree with you on the point that if Korean media after too much diffusion became very similar to Western media then that will be pretty bad for us watchers. I pray to God that doesn't happen. I really like Korean media and invested my last 7 years in watching so many good shows that comforted me so much that the thought of such shows not being made anymore is really really scary.
On the contrary, I would love to see some good collaboration between Western and Korean world. Production values and sometimes scripts of western shows are really good and I am eagerly looking forward to synergy coming from this endeavour. Good examples of this are shows like Kingdom and Squid Game.
On CLOY, as I have said before its pretty stupid if they are remaking it in a western setting. I guess the best thing to do will be to take some inspiration and essence of the show to create something new instead of just creating another soul less western adaptation.
Finished 3rd episode and the team up of the one dollar lawyer and Baek Mari was hilarious and so damn entertaining. This drama should be higher than 8.5 but as I know on MDL most people have a hobby to only go to other 8.5+ dramas and rant and shit post about them instead of actually promoting badass quality dramas like this one.
Let me simplify and clarify the article as I think most of the people are raging unnecessarily here except for the fact that A CLOY remake is very likely going to "crash".
First, understand it in monetary terms. If I am a film maker and made a unique film with good content quality but the fact that a) Since my film is not commercial in nature due to novel concept or new actors that are not so popular domestically b) Even if the film is commercial and people know about it too, even then only 60% of them at most are going to watch the film in a nearby theatre and the rest are either going to skip it or will watch on streaming platforms.
Then WTF will I do to recover my investment and make new content. Selling remake rights to American studios will then act as my additional revenue stream and help me keep afloat financially. Not only remaking, its always better to expand and make your content relevant in other countries so that you can increase your overall box office revenue. And the companies abroad will have distribution and marketing skill to better promote your content in their countries and co-production will give Korean companies good enough creative control that the collaborated product will not be "woke" nonsense that many of you are presuming it to be.
Now some real life examples : 1) Almost all US blockbusters will earn their 50% of box office revenue from international markets. 2) Recently a brilliant Indian action movie "Kill" who earned modest box office in my home country India has been acquired by producers behind "John Wick" to have the right to make a Hollywood remake. Now the remake contract and the additional cut from the box office profit from this new remake will allow the makers behind "Kill" to make more similar creative content. 3) Boys over flowers which is essentially a Japanese manga but due to selling the rights for a Korean Drama remake and then the subsequent global popularity of the K-Drama starring Lee Min Ho would definitely have provided the original creator some additional revenue.
So to summarize, its important that in general Korean or not, the makers needs to advertise and market their home grown content to international audience for better revenue if the current domestic model of revenue can't sustain their film industry.
And please engage with my comment respectfully as there might be some points that I overlooked unintentionally or may be some of my points are not strong enough. Overall, as someone who himself have watched over 150 K-Dramas, I would never want K-Content to lose their magic and USP which is basically to tell a convincing story of quirky or relatable characters with some emotional humane drama to spice it up.
Finished the first 2 episodes and I have to say that Namkoong Min's magic has worked again! Its so hilarious and intriguing to watch his methods and way of solving the cases. Also, Kim ji Eun looks so cute and freaking gorgeous, I am loving her role in every drama I am watching these days.
Ep 22 is another banger episode. Other writers should learn from this drama on how to tie all plot threads together in the end. This drama has really good kissing scenes and once again Lomon is a lucky b@st@rd.
In my opinion, in terms of storytelling and plot the drama peaked at Ep11. After that everything feels like a…
Overall, I also liked the later episodes (Eps 12 to 14) but they are weaker IMO in comparison to what we have seen previously. Narrative of the drama is such that it continuously build up tension which is then released later resulting in emotional catharsis for the characters as well as the viewers. One of the biggest tension and conflict is resolved at the end of Ep 11 after which we don't know what to watch the drama for except for the second couple.
Honest Advice Needed: I put this drama on hold at Ep 8 (after the FL's reason is revealed)It was going so well…
In my opinion, in terms of storytelling and plot the drama peaked at Ep11. After that everything feels like a epilogue of some sorts in which there is no major conflict. Things always go smoothly for both the couples barring small hiccups. I would suggest you to watch till the end of Ep 11 at the bare minimum. Afterwards its your choice as you can skip the rest thinking that its happily ever after for both couples.
Personally I am watching the drama for the cheerful vibes of the actors, especially the second couple. Also, In Ep 12,13,14 there is significant shift in the sense that most of the times we as viewers, see the ML's POV rather than the FL's POV which is very different from what we saw in the beginning.
There is love triangle but its neither serious nor the focal point of the show. Both the supporting ML and FL have nothing to do in the entire show most of the time.
Chemistry between the leads is a rollercoaster ride.
Regarding most of the writers being female, I also didn't gave much attention at first but then when I discovered this pattern I couldn't stop myself for knowing the writers and now I have a habit that I try to see who are writers behind the show apart from the starring actors.
Also, I think you are really kind to include Indian dramas as I being from India knows the sad reality of the quality of Indian Television daily soaps which are very mediocre at the best and straight garbage at the worst. Though for the past 6 years there has been increasingly really good Indian web series few of which are on par with International standard.
Also, when it comes to books, I am enamoured with Japanese mangas so thats my second favourite thing to do after watching K-Dramas. Don't know whether its true for other media but the fact that I am a male and most of the K-Dramas are predominantly written by women is something which I often look forward to in order to get a feminine perspective on life, relationships and society in general through their brilliant storytelling as in my country we very seldomly see their perspective.
Nice having a conversation with you.
Though I don't like bullies and never gave stupid justification as you have mentioned.
On "Novel concept or new actors", sadly thats the current reality we live in. And I don't mean foreingness at all. Take a real life example. Any upcoming K-Drama starring Lee Min Ho is more financially viable for the producer because of his global stardom but on the other hand any great drama having a new comer Korean actor although very talented is not perceived by the investors worth their money since they will consider it pretty risky. Thats the reason that Netflix produced a show like Squid game (which I know is a mediocre K-Drama at best) which none of the Korean studios could risk their money on and made it global.
I know that you get it, my purpose of writing the comment was to throw some light on the issue with a new perspective. Thats all. Apologies if I offended you in any manner.
I strongly agree with you on the point that if Korean media after too much diffusion became very similar to Western media then that will be pretty bad for us watchers. I pray to God that doesn't happen. I really like Korean media and invested my last 7 years in watching so many good shows that comforted me so much that the thought of such shows not being made anymore is really really scary.
On the contrary, I would love to see some good collaboration between Western and Korean world. Production values and sometimes scripts of western shows are really good and I am eagerly looking forward to synergy coming from this endeavour. Good examples of this are shows like Kingdom and Squid Game.
On CLOY, as I have said before its pretty stupid if they are remaking it in a western setting. I guess the best thing to do will be to take some inspiration and essence of the show to create something new instead of just creating another soul less western adaptation.
First, understand it in monetary terms. If I am a film maker and made a unique film with good content quality but the fact that
a) Since my film is not commercial in nature due to novel concept or new actors that are not so popular domestically
b) Even if the film is commercial and people know about it too, even then only 60% of them at most are going to watch the film in a nearby theatre and the rest are either going to skip it or will watch on streaming platforms.
Then WTF will I do to recover my investment and make new content. Selling remake rights to American studios will then act as my additional revenue stream and help me keep afloat financially. Not only remaking, its always better to expand and make your content relevant in other countries so that you can increase your overall box office revenue. And the companies abroad will have distribution and marketing skill to better promote your content in their countries and co-production will give Korean companies good enough creative control that the collaborated product will not be "woke" nonsense that many of you are presuming it to be.
Now some real life examples :
1) Almost all US blockbusters will earn their 50% of box office revenue from international markets.
2) Recently a brilliant Indian action movie "Kill" who earned modest box office in my home country India has been acquired by producers behind "John Wick" to have the right to make a Hollywood remake. Now the remake contract and the additional cut from the box office profit from this new remake will allow the makers behind "Kill" to make more similar creative content.
3) Boys over flowers which is essentially a Japanese manga but due to selling the rights for a Korean Drama remake and then the subsequent global popularity of the K-Drama starring Lee Min Ho would definitely have provided the original creator some additional revenue.
So to summarize, its important that in general Korean or not, the makers needs to advertise and market their home grown content to international audience for better revenue if the current domestic model of revenue can't sustain their film industry.
And please engage with my comment respectfully as there might be some points that I overlooked unintentionally or may be some of my points are not strong enough. Overall, as someone who himself have watched over 150 K-Dramas, I would never want K-Content to lose their magic and USP which is basically to tell a convincing story of quirky or relatable characters with some emotional humane drama to spice it up.
Personally I am watching the drama for the cheerful vibes of the actors, especially the second couple. Also, In Ep 12,13,14 there is significant shift in the sense that most of the times we as viewers, see the ML's POV rather than the FL's POV which is very different from what we saw in the beginning.