2. You are missing my point lol no one is saying this is not an obviously fictionalized drama but the fact is it is taken from real events and had more than enough material to make a terrific revenge crime thriller and instead it is badly executed and way too overly complicated convoluted in the revenge execution which has ruined the heart of the story that lured many people in. 🤷🏻♀️
This sounds similar to what the children in this drama went through:Trigger warning. Read at your own risk.https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-52797527
Because the Brothers Home is what this Drama is based on /inspired by.
They never claimed nor hinted that the story was based on real events or true-to-life. ^_^People are capable of…
It was literally inspired by a documentary about a child welfare center in Busan that took children and abused, tortured, enslaved and murdered them and despite it becoming known to police, judges and officials, no one was arrested. Please do your research. This show is a dramatized fictional story but it is absolutely inspired by the actual real life events and real life kids.
They never claimed nor hinted that the story was based on real events or true-to-life. ^_^People are capable of…
It was literally inspired by a documentary about a child welfare center in Busan that took children and abused, tortured, enslaved and murdered some and despite it becoming known to police, judges and officials, no one was arrested. Please do your research. This show is a dramatized fictional story but it is absolutely inspired by the actual real life events and real life kids.
I agree wit you but at the same you need to remember that this is not real. Its a drama not based on a real story.…
Please show me where in this show Crazy Dog or the Police Captain are spending episodes mourning their children’s deaths. It has no impact. It’s bad writing. They are more concerned with killing YJY before he exposes them to the public. Their children are barely mentioned after the initial moment they are discovered dead. So no the whole kill the kids of your abusers is worse and more impactful and hurtful is not actually played out in the show. So it doesn’t work as a plot point. It just doesn’t.
And it is in fact inspired by a documentary about the real life kids who were taken and put into a welfare center in Korea and tortured and murdered. It’s a dramatized fictionalized take inspired by a real life event.
The main reason I think the writers chose to k!ll the abusers loved ones was because that's what will give them…
It’s a fail for me sorry. The people whose children were killed are not languishing in agony every episode because their children were killed. They have barely shown they are grieving or devastated about losing their children and are instead just focused on protecting their images and killing YJY and covering their own asses. So there is no actual emotional impact shown that makes the killing of their loved ones/children actually even really have impact. It has nearly NO impact.
I’ve been trying to figure out why I’m so disappointed with the route the show has gone and I think it comes down to this.
They’ve taken a story based on real life child victims of horrible abuse and and used that real life story to build this thriller drama around and turned them into cold hearted almost 1 dimensional revenge killers who are so twisted they don’t even kill their abusers, but the innocent children of the abusers.
And because of this, they completely SQUANDERED away the viewers sympathy for the Hope Center Kids and completely disrespected the real life children who lived through this horror show. And the entire playground accident amnesia brainwashing plot is the stupidest f***ing plot twist I’ve seen in a long time. I’m sorry. It’s just a bad plot line.
The setup for the foundation of the show was so fantastic. It was so horrific and heartbreaking and the way they filmed it and revealed it really made such an impact.
All they had to do was actually make Sung Joon #13 but NOT a psychopath killer, just a hot head, you can still give him blocked memories or trauma block that makes him forget what happened and make #11 the secret revenge killer but he actually goes after the people who abused them, not this dumbass plot of taking innocent lives and make it a cat & mouse between 11 & 13. This entire plot with JYJ/Insung/Charles/ a trio of killers who are so twisted they want to hurt other innocent children of bad people DOES NOT WORK. None of it works.
And the real story now is ruined by making the kids become trash ass adults who the audience can’t sympathize with. Congratulations Writers. You wrote characters that are badly sketched out, turned them into shallow almost illogically driven revenge killers who spend 14 episodes getting revenge on none of their actual abusers so that now it doesn’t even feel like they are worth rooting for and even sympathizing with, you’ve made Sung Hoons character completely inconsistent as his child version was CLEARLY a warm person who had a strong moral compass and never at any point in the child scenes did he exhibit his adult personality, so once again we can’t even really connect between them emotionally ….
I just feel bad for the real people that have to watch their story get turned into this clown show.
Taec is a AMAZING in this role which is what is saving it for me at this point. I don’t care about anyone besides him at this point. I hope Sung Joon and Eun-Ki move to Switzerland or somewhere far away and get married and live life away from this toxic clown show they are surrounded by!
ep 13 is total letdown.. and they should have made the villain sympathetic here.. that would still be a good narrative..…
Exactly. The show was compelling because you felt invested in the kids at the beginning and all that was squandered by bad writing and character development which makes you feel nothing for the kids as adults….. much less sympathy for them as adults. There are a million ways this could have been an amazing truly emotional compelling revenge mystery and they chose none of them and instead gave us this predictable convoluted shit show lol
THIS! Exactly this! I was so invested in this show until the whole "these were false memories" thing happened.…
thank goodness I’m not the only one who feels this way.
Taec/SJ looks nothing like the child they are saying he was. He looks way more like 12 or 13! I’m so annoyed that I got so emotionally invested in who I thought was him as a child only to be told more than half way through that no, actually he’s the bio son of the horrible woman, a kid we have only seen for 2 seconds here and there and that kid is super MEH. I feel no emotional connection between that kid and adult SJ!
and I feel no sympathy or emotional connection to Charles or In Seong and I’m barely BARELY feeling anything for SH who is totally different than he was as a child / # 11 also.
I feel like they built up this whole hope center story around the kids and we got super invested in the kids and it’s all completely wasted. The only person who they’ve spent enough time on as an adult character that we can empathize with is SJ and now they are ruining his whole backstory with this lame ass plot twist. sigh.
Unless he narrated what real no 12 told him....and charles is the real son? Why did charles look on like this…
Sung Hoons adult personality is *nothing* like 11’s personality either. Adult Sung Hoon is more like 13! It’s all so idiotic and inconsistent and badly scripted. The whole show is just bad writing at this point. It’s all tricks tricks amnesia, accident, lies, raincoats, fake dreams fake memories. It had so much potential …….. I’m sad it’s become what it has.
Hooded grey playground friend pushed him and fed him false memories? My take
I hate hate hate the entire playground/biological son/brain damage memory loss part of the story!!! WTF happened??!!! 😭😭😭
My husband was adopted when he was 8 and they changed his name and he doesn’t remember much of his childhood so I’m totally understanding about confusing memories and even names but this…….. this drama is beyond contrived. It’s contrived and nonsensical at this point. It had so much potential to be the mystery thriller of the year and instead it’s a mess.
4 episodes left for them to clean it up. If it just turns out that InSeong & Charles are the killers and InSeong is really 13/JYJ it will be a huge letdown.
my biggest issue with the show is the entire first arc, during which SJ was clearly shown to have memories of being 13 and what 13 went through. Which also made us become invested in the Hope Center kids. But now you say he’s the real son? The real son the show didn’t even bother giving us enough screen time to care about?
if this okiedoke ropeadope doesn’t ever get explained……. i will drastically lower my rating because it means they literally just manipulated the viewers in a way that makes no logical sense and treats us like idiots.
why did he think he had a sister. why did he think he was number 13. why did he think his real name was JYJ. What about the Shaman! Why did the Shaman get all possessed when he handed her his card! Why did he have repeated dreams about being chased in the forest by dogs, hiding with #111 by the tree, running with the other tracksuit kids….. why does he say he was in an accident when he was 7 and lost his memory yet he’s at least 11 or 12 in the scene where he’s crying at the playground saying he doesn’t know who he is. IT DOESNT ADD UP.
Why is a supposed child SJ with brain damage and his head wrapped up at sitting crying at the playground anyway???? The playground scene? Really? That’s what we are going with? Was the real JYJ on the seesaw and he told SJ his name and Sung Joon thought it was his own real name? This is so dumb I’m sorry! Why did he have the necklace. We saw 11 give 13 the necklace. How tf did it end up on SJ! Did seesaw kid give it to him? Why did he have those dreams. The dreams are the thing that’s really eating away at me. The being terrified of dogs, saying Mad Dogs name in his sleep. Come on!!!! They haven’t *sufficiently* explained ANY of that stuff and it’s completely cheapened the entire first half arc of the show. I mean I can swear I remember a scene where SH even says to his parents “What did you expect when you brought him home” about SJ as a child. Why TF would he say that if SJ was their biological son. What the hell was that?! I’m just supposed to accept that he’s their real son and he has magical brain damage that makes this convoluted plot magically work with a totally different story? I’m sorry it’s not working for me. None of us are invested in or feel attached to the biological child story so it ruins adult SJ if that’s all they wrote for his real childhood. If he’s the real son of this horrible shitty couple and all of this was some revenge on him too this is lame AF.
These writers are about to make me say “f*** those hope center kids” if that’s the case. I have no attachment to them if this is how it all plays out. Why hasn’t SJ done a DNA test on himself !!! Hello, easy way to be sure you are your parents real kid now!
it’s one thing to misdirect the audience. That happens. But what they did with SJ character makes zero sense without further explanation, I’m sorry. It was super obvious from early on that Charles & In Sung were the baddies and because the writers went the route they did, it’s hard to really care or feel connected to them. Unless there is still some plot twist and big reveal this will end up yet another recent thriller/crime/mystery Kdrama that I was SOOOOOO into but it ended up completely falling apart and losing all its magic in the second half.
The show would have been INFINITELY more interesting is SJ was really #13….. if he WAS really JYJ. Him being the biological kid with a waaaaay thinner lamer backstory and a convenient brain injury ruins the whole story for me at this point if that’s all it is.
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2. You are missing my point lol no one is saying this is not an obviously fictionalized drama but the fact is it is taken from real events and had more than enough material to make a terrific revenge crime thriller and instead it is badly executed and way too overly complicated convoluted in the revenge execution which has ruined the heart of the story that lured many people in.
🤷🏻♀️
And it is in fact inspired by a documentary about the real life kids who were taken and put into a welfare center in Korea and tortured and murdered. It’s a dramatized fictionalized take inspired by a real life event.
They’ve taken a story based on real life child victims of horrible abuse and and used that real life story to build this thriller drama around and turned them into cold hearted almost 1 dimensional revenge killers who are so twisted they don’t even kill their abusers, but the innocent children of the abusers.
And because of this, they completely SQUANDERED away the viewers sympathy for the Hope Center Kids and completely disrespected the real life children who lived through this horror show. And the entire playground accident amnesia brainwashing plot is the stupidest f***ing plot twist I’ve seen in a long time. I’m sorry. It’s just a bad plot line.
The setup for the foundation of the show was so fantastic. It was so horrific and heartbreaking and the way they filmed it and revealed it really made such an impact.
All they had to do was actually make Sung Joon #13 but NOT a psychopath killer, just a hot head, you can still give him blocked memories or trauma block that makes him forget what happened and make #11 the secret revenge killer but he actually goes after the people who abused them, not this dumbass plot of taking innocent lives and make it a cat & mouse between 11 & 13. This entire plot with JYJ/Insung/Charles/ a trio of killers who are so twisted they want to hurt other innocent children of bad people DOES NOT WORK. None of it works.
And the real story now is ruined by making the kids become trash ass adults who the audience can’t sympathize with. Congratulations Writers. You wrote characters that are badly sketched out, turned them into shallow almost illogically driven revenge killers who spend 14 episodes getting revenge on none of their actual abusers so that now it doesn’t even feel like they are worth rooting for and even sympathizing with, you’ve made Sung Hoons character completely inconsistent as his child version was CLEARLY a warm person who had a strong moral compass and never at any point in the child scenes did he exhibit his adult personality, so once again we can’t even really connect between them emotionally ….
I just feel bad for the real people that have to watch their story get turned into this clown show.
Taec is a AMAZING in this role which is what is saving it for me at this point. I don’t care about anyone besides him at this point. I hope Sung Joon and Eun-Ki move to Switzerland or somewhere far away and get married and live life away from this toxic clown show they are surrounded by!
SO much potential totally squandered.
Taec/SJ looks nothing like the child they are saying he was. He looks way more like 12 or 13! I’m so annoyed that I got so emotionally invested in who I thought was him as a child only to be told more than half way through that no, actually he’s the bio son of the horrible woman, a kid we have only seen for 2 seconds here and there and that kid is super MEH. I feel no emotional connection between that kid and adult SJ!
and I feel no sympathy or emotional connection to Charles or In Seong and I’m barely BARELY feeling anything for SH who is totally different than he was as a child / # 11 also.
I feel like they built up this whole hope center story around the kids and we got super invested in the kids and it’s all completely wasted. The only person who they’ve spent enough time on as an adult character that we can empathize with is SJ and now they are ruining his whole backstory with this lame ass plot twist. sigh.
My husband was adopted when he was 8 and they changed his name and he doesn’t remember much of his childhood so I’m totally understanding about confusing memories and even names but this…….. this drama is beyond contrived. It’s contrived and nonsensical at this point. It had so much potential to be the mystery thriller of the year and instead it’s a mess.
4 episodes left for them to clean it up. If it just turns out that InSeong & Charles are the killers and InSeong is really 13/JYJ it will be a huge letdown.
if this okiedoke ropeadope doesn’t ever get explained……. i will drastically lower my rating because it means they literally just manipulated the viewers in a way that makes no logical sense and treats us like idiots.
why did he think he had a sister. why did he think he was number 13. why did he think his real name was JYJ. What about the Shaman! Why did the Shaman get all possessed when he handed her his card! Why did he have repeated dreams about being chased in the forest by dogs, hiding with #111 by the tree, running with the other tracksuit kids….. why does he say he was in an accident when he was 7 and lost his memory yet he’s at least 11 or 12 in the scene where he’s crying at the playground saying he doesn’t know who he is. IT DOESNT ADD UP.
Why is a supposed child SJ with brain damage and his head wrapped up at sitting crying at the playground anyway???? The playground scene? Really? That’s what we are going with? Was the real JYJ on the seesaw and he told SJ his name and Sung Joon thought it was his own real name? This is so dumb I’m sorry! Why did he have the necklace. We saw 11 give 13 the necklace. How tf did it end up on SJ! Did seesaw kid give it to him? Why did he have those dreams. The dreams are the thing that’s really eating away at me. The being terrified of dogs, saying Mad Dogs name in his sleep. Come on!!!! They haven’t *sufficiently* explained ANY of that stuff and it’s completely cheapened the entire first half arc of the show. I mean I can swear I remember a scene where SH even says to his parents “What did you expect when you brought him home” about SJ as a child. Why TF would he say that if SJ was their biological son. What the hell was that?! I’m just supposed to accept that he’s their real son and he has magical brain damage that makes this convoluted plot magically work with a totally different story? I’m sorry it’s not working for me. None of us are invested in or feel attached to the biological child story so it ruins adult SJ if that’s all they wrote for his real childhood. If he’s the real son of this horrible shitty couple and all of this was some revenge on him too this is lame AF.
These writers are about to make me say “f*** those hope center kids” if that’s the case. I have no attachment to them if this is how it all plays out. Why hasn’t SJ done a DNA test on himself !!! Hello, easy way to be sure you are your parents real kid now!
it’s one thing to misdirect the audience. That happens. But what they did with SJ character makes zero sense without further explanation, I’m sorry. It was super obvious from early on that Charles & In Sung were the baddies and because the writers went the route they did, it’s hard to really care or feel connected to them. Unless there is still some plot twist and big reveal this will end up yet another recent thriller/crime/mystery Kdrama that I was SOOOOOO into but it ended up completely falling apart and losing all its magic in the second half.
The show would have been INFINITELY more interesting is SJ was really #13….. if he WAS really JYJ. Him being the biological kid with a waaaaay thinner lamer backstory and a convenient brain injury ruins the whole story for me at this point if that’s all it is.