After Legend of the magnate, It's the 2nd drama discussion page where I've enjoyed this much analysis & Enjoyed insightful comments, an enriched comment section where mature audience gathered again!
❤️ @PeachBlossomGoddess @SalwaNice @Megumi H @Jocketoool @AleksandraSucur @Anthony Tumiwa @Nahlabee4 & other names i forgot but i went further down to read old comments
will be coming back after the show is completed to know if i should continue or not 😅 for me so far It's 8/10
Ah now I understand why ppl are complaining about using AI for the intro. Yeah sure AI animation stuff is what kids watch these days, but a live person should create something unique for the drama and get paid for it.
This is the best explanation about it: QUOTE: " using AI is honestly weird, there are tons of artists who can make an intro, but then dramappl turn around and use soulless gen ai - it is so weird - it’s taking actual talented artist jobs"
It was forced land seizure. The local authorities fraudulently asserted autumn taxes when the king had waived them bc of hard times and demanded payment in spring, before they were due. The farmers borrowed money from the noble families to pay their taxes using their land as collateral. Cheng Zhaoyue was the key architect of this scheme.
I just finished episode 30. English is not my native language, but this drama forced me to watch it with English subtitles because I couldn’t wait for the next episode. With a book in hand to take notes of the words I didn’t understand and to keep track of the complicated relationships between the characters, I actually enjoyed it a lot because it was just that good.
This drama is perfect for those of you who enjoy serious and realistic stories based on history and complex political dynamics. When watching something like this, you can’t judge the characters as simply “good” or “evil,” “black” or “white,” because humans are fundamentally complex beings full of contradictions. This drama presents its “men, ministers, kings, servants, and common people” in deeply layered ways.
From the first five episodes, I really liked the character Shui Qiu, an extraordinarily intelligent and loyal minister. He is a good and wise mentor, accompanying the ninth prince and witnessing his growth. He cares deeply for The Qian brothers and for the people. He is the type of person I would genuinely respect if someone like him existed in the real world.
Meanwhile, I truly hate the character He Cheng Xun, He is greedy, treacherous, cowardly, and constantly stirring up conflict. He is the kind of person who could bring ruin to a country if left unchecked. In the early episodes, I already hated him for betrayl his master… and after episode 30, I hated him even more.
The end of episode 29 made me hard to breathe, and in episode 30, I cried and cursed a lot. I felt bad for Hongchu, but what happened to Shui Qiu played a big role in shaping his principles as a king. I was just not satisfied with He Cheng Xun’s ending. I wish he were chopped up and fed to the dogs!!
For me, this drama is recomended... With note : Look the tag and the genre's
Guys I am finally happy after so long first drama is good and next this is the most mature convos I had with Mdl in past few years. Where its more on story and characters and interesting facts. This make this drama more enjoyable
Replying toSalwa Nice•Feb 4, 2026•Liked Feb 4, 2026
why are they rushing this drama to finish? 3 episode a day is a lot to catch up
I don't see a problem with them rushing to drop episodes. We don't have to rush to watch. I am taking my own sweet time. Of course the production wants to get it all out before everyone takes off for Chinese New Year holidays, which begins on the 15th and goes on till the 23rd. I will take off until March 1 and if I hadn't hurt my knees I'd be skiing and not watch a thing.
Pretty incredible when you think a nation like the US has been here 250 years and in China, that span of time is like "Oh you know, ONE dynasty, with maybe ten emperors". lol The scope of history, the many, many, many changes and upheavals and power exchanges is breathtaking. I love that engrossing shows like this give a glimpse into the past and excites viewers to read up and learn more about this time period.
Some may find these parts slow, but I quite like watching the scenes depicting the more "boring" or tedious side of governance. It is these people - the ones faithfully counting every expense, recording them and being diligent in their tasks that make our governments run on a daily basis.
Then you have the self-serving people in the shadows (literally these scenes are full of shadows with the lighting - don't think that's unintentional) plotting to get something for themselves. Such was mankind before and today - and tomorrow?
Recently i was reading Epstein files alot and now watching this E1 was quite unsettling especially 2nd half bcz sex racket involving minor girls reminded me alot of epstein files.
I think its doing fairly well with history buffs. But the confusing beginning and some of the more opaque political…
Ig now its picking up. I even read people are going back and reading about it. But overseas reception is mid, understandable its not a very easy drama to watch. But I feel if i holds very good till the end for sure it will be become a timeless classic. A lot people will visit it once it finishes
❤️ @PeachBlossomGoddess @SalwaNice @Megumi H @Jocketoool @AleksandraSucur @Anthony Tumiwa @Nahlabee4 & other names i forgot but i went further down to read old comments
will be coming back after the show is completed to know if i should continue or not 😅 for me so far It's 8/10
This is the best explanation about it:
QUOTE: " using AI is honestly weird, there are tons of artists who can make an intro, but then dramappl turn around and use soulless gen ai - it is so weird - it’s taking actual talented artist jobs"
Ai ruins authenticity, steals real art and turns everything soulless so thats why people will make a fuzz about it.
Also if theyve used that much AI, who's to say they didnt use it to write the script too?
one of my fav character died today💔
We have reached ML on the throne, curious to see what happens next
English is not my native language, but this drama forced me to watch it with English subtitles because I couldn’t wait for the next episode. With a book in hand to take notes of the words I didn’t understand and to keep track of the complicated relationships between the characters, I actually enjoyed it a lot because it was just that good.
This drama is perfect for those of you who enjoy serious and realistic stories based on history and complex political dynamics. When watching something like this, you can’t judge the characters as simply “good” or “evil,” “black” or “white,” because humans are fundamentally complex beings full of contradictions.
This drama presents its “men, ministers, kings, servants, and common people” in deeply layered ways.
From the first five episodes, I really liked the character Shui Qiu, an extraordinarily intelligent and loyal minister. He is a good and wise mentor, accompanying the ninth prince and witnessing his growth. He cares deeply for The Qian brothers and for the people. He is the type of person I would genuinely respect if someone like him existed in the real world.
Meanwhile, I truly hate the character He Cheng Xun, He is greedy, treacherous, cowardly, and constantly stirring up conflict. He is the kind of person who could bring ruin to a country if left unchecked. In the early episodes, I already hated him for betrayl his master… and after episode 30, I hated him even more.
The end of episode 29 made me hard to breathe, and in episode 30, I cried and cursed a lot. I felt bad for Hongchu, but what happened to Shui Qiu played a big role in shaping his principles as a king. I was just not satisfied with He Cheng Xun’s ending. I wish he were chopped up and fed to the dogs!!
For me, this drama is recomended... With note : Look the tag and the genre's
Then you have the self-serving people in the shadows (literally these scenes are full of shadows with the lighting - don't think that's unintentional) plotting to get something for themselves. Such was mankind before and today - and tomorrow?