YES since the swap he is FANTASTIC. I was going to mention to that and forgot. Thanks for reminding me. He was…
yeah you can get some serious makjang chaos hilarious out of that :) but also... not knowing allowed him to show his true colors and become a prominent character. e.g. when he was talking to ML in FL body and telling "her" not to mess up his boss or else... So I wonder HOW LONG they will be swapping? all their lives?? if so, he will have to know :)
both are too immature, it would not go well at all, imo. .... she has a crush on ML.... and she is such a dumb…
yes, exactly! and that worries me. her behavior shows she is s clueless naive person, and also entitled. She likes ML and I am really concerned she will try to grab him by manipulating the queen and ML and by backstabbing FL
I am enjoying this series so much. On ep 3 and laughing.... Omg this drama is soooo funny LMAO rom ep 2 on, the script is hilarious and the actng is hilarious. And also deep. That controlled back and forth between total hilarious CHAOS to deep serious moments - is soooo regreshingly funny
I was rolling off my chair with the scenes of them doing the internal communication software in 3 days. FL actress is ... so funny..... Albert actor is an amazing comedian... And the others too.... That scene when FL feeds the software guy LMAO Albert gets up to box LOL omg omg omg omg I love this series ....
FL actress is a mystery to me. She actually does not act well. There are many scenes where it is obvious she is pretending and acting. She acts makjang and totally overdoes the scenes. But .. for some reason - which I am trying to figure out why - I find it INCREDIBLY interesting to watch her. She somehow catches me and hooks me on. Is it ... her presence? Or her totally knowing what she is doing and then pulling me in to watch her shenanigans? In any case, I am GLUED TO THE SCREEN to see what the next shenanigan is..... OH I GET IT WHY.... her acting totally matches the scenes - she acts all emotions necessary, she just mostly overdoes them, ** but not always **. For example, scenes with her ex are dead serious for real. But scenes in making software are are total makjang clowning CHAOS LMAO and getting dragged by her officemates after the disciplinary meeting is a combo of both.... So we kinda know when she is clowning and when she is showing us a really important message and scenes... And she ALWAYS expresses different kinds of feelings. She accentuates the feelings... She makjang-ish scoffs or rolls her eyes... and she "as if in real life" stares at the CEO when summoned... So she is always engaged in showing SOME kind of *different* emotion.... Unlike Ji Sung who is also a jester but he always acts the same, so I do not find him interestinig.
The use of makjang in this drama is hilarious... Like that scene in ep 3 just before they get paychecks, when they are informed they got new work, and their reactions OMG LMAO It is serious but makjang is used to show how they really feel and it is HILARIOUS it is brilliant
so that is why FL actress style is so catchy... we always clearly see her (and everyone else's around her) true feelings.
FL is really fantastic. Albert is ridiculous LMAO but Albert actor is somehow pulling it off as genuine LOL It is incredibly funny. I found a new fav actor. He too goes between clowning and serious acting at will ... and it is just amazing acting. FL's boss as usual is a total riot LOL One of my fav actors for a good reason :) He is amazing NoRa is really dumb... but is really cute and honest. That actress is really good looking. Manager Bo or Go - what is her name? the roommate - is really interesting...
I am having a great time with this drama. It is a real GEM. it is soooo refreshingly funny.... It is a total clown comedy yet it is very serious and deep at the same time. So good.
As for ML... the script made him a very honest, kind, smart, wise and capable person, and the actor really brought all the complexities of that character - who had to OVERCOME his entitlemend, arrogance, naivette, and all that. This is masterful acting of a very capable actor who is bringing various shades of 'spoiled brat growing up into a nice man." That actor had the range of expressions to portray that. It is a very sophisticated actor who was able to catch the small nuances and make comedy of it and make expressions that convey various complex and deep feelings, and say his lines with utmost "make believe" convincing way. Great actor. There is no acting, there is no "I am pretending" there is "I AM this character, and this character is alive"
How he treats FL is quite exemplary for 21st century, really. He communicates honestly and considerately and tries to work things out. yeah it is a good script, but without an actor who CAN ACT IT, the script is useless. ML actor brought it to life.
ML is the adult in this story. (And not perfect LOL there is dueling and some other small details where he is immature egoistical dumb). FL is still immature in too many ways. 2ML is an idiot. 2FL is a naive goose and possibly entitled jealous greedy.
ML's mother, FL's father, are just egoistical helicopter parents.
As for Jae In - Actor Min Gi is doing a great job of portraying psycho cruel greedy toddler Jae In., and so Jae In is annoying many people with his bad behaviors. Jae In is also swooning some with his attention via violence.
The actor is good looking so Jae In is good looking, so immature fans think that Jae In's "attention" via violence is hot. Nope, it is NOT hot for Jae In to be so cruel mean destructive. Jae In is abusive and a murderer now too. THat's what many are saying.
The reality is, Jae In is creating some super bad karma and has to be held responsible. What he did at the end of ep 8 is intentional murder of many people so that he can get what he wants - FL as concubine. That is not love, it is a psychotic toxic obsession of a very weak, confused, immature, AND mean person.
Nothing personal, but Jae In has serious mental and emotional issues, as he thinks that he is so special that his life situation requires destroying lives of others and his own life. Jae In is IGNORANT to the point of willingly harming others .... and himself.
So the drama will milk it and somehow he will have to pay for his wrongdoings bc it is drama LOL In real life, Jae In could easily become another Genghis Khan and kill soooo many ppl and keep creating chaos and suffering. He would marry FL and abuse her.
Jae In is effectively a villain. Hopefully one day he will make a U turn and grow up. Or not. Maybe he dies or gets exiled if he doesnt want to clean up his bad karma. ...
So JaeIn will probably stay on the screen until the end, bc he is good looking and some audience likes mysogony and psychotic abuse by good looking guys (like in Boys Over Flowers). Hopefully very soon and definitely by the end, it would be clear if he stays a villain or not.
To have the redemption arc, Jae In actor needs to act a lot more than just being a closed down poker face villain, he has to have the skillZ to express a transformation
It is easy to act a bully. You just keep a poker face. To act transformation and/or to act as a complex villain requires so much more finesse. So let us see that. This is really a challenge for that actor to grow into more complex roles that involve expressing a wider range of emotions. Yeah sure he is good looking guy and can look mean. But can he also look ... happy? confused? vulenrable? considerate? caring? Sad? smitten? ... Also, a more complex villain is more interesting to watch :) Just a poker face/angry villain is kinda too simple :)
maybe Jae In is not willing nor able to go there and will stay a SIMPLE bad character to the end. That is also a cheesy way to keep the ML too simple as the contrast is too obvious - the good guy ML and bad guy 2ML. But .... to make it really interesting... ML should have faults that he overcomes - which ML already did - and Jae In should have some traces of humanity and struggle with his afflictions and violence and ... win or lose that internal battle. We will see.
So if we are going to be swooned by Jae In, the proper way is to see him struggle to get free of his afflictions, so that we can root for him, and at the end, he could win or lose the inner battle but at least he tried, and we can either cry that he lost, or celebrate that he transformed.
Right now, he is not trying NOR willing, so we cannot root for him at all. We can only root that he finally wakes up and has a desire to try. But he is not showing any signs of any inclination to do so - he says he is an animal and kills a whole village without even blinking, he keeps getting worse and worse, so... the situation is bleak. He might not make it bc he simply does not want to..
There is nothing to root for Jae In YET. As is, he is on the chopping block as a lost case, so far. It can change in a second, but it has NOT changed yet. So I am waiting before I root for him.
RIght now, Jae In is willingly a villain who thinks of nothing of murdering people to benefit himself.
So this famous Gil Dong canNOT run away from a fire arrow... ??? gimme a break/ The script was DUMB. FL is written as insecure and often dumb, but to this point... heck no.
Nothing personal to the script writer - I think that creating a script by stupid woman and a guy saving her - is sheer trash.
ML saved her like a Superman. SO CHEESY STUPID>
He could have saved her in a different way. For example, opened the gate as she was running away, or something like that. It is ok that he saves her - it is give and take, sometimes she saves him and sometimes he saves her. So it is ok he saved her that night. But not like that!!!!! Not she just closing her eyes waiting to be struck, instead of escaping!!!!
Now we have the SAME OLD STUPID MYSOGENIC SITUATION - A DUMB LOSER FL SAVED BY SUPERHUMAN ALWAYS PROTECTIVE ALWAYS SUPERIOR ML
I hate this trope with passion. I think that trope is a trashy mysogenic BRAINWASHING
DISCLAIMER written later: I dont think the entire drama is mysogenic. Just those details. Which makes me worried the drama will go in the wrong direction. ... So far, it did not, thank god for that...
But accept it or not a character like this that will gain attention from Korean fans. Mingi name listed on most…
I think the character's bad behavior HAS to be called. IT is a part of commenting on the drama. That is our reaction to that character - we dislike him bc he is mean psycho destructive
It says nothing about the actor except that he is acting that role well.
The actor is good looking so Jae In is good looking, so immature fans think that Jae In's violence is hot. Nope it is not hot for Jae In to be so cruel mean destructive. THat's what many are saying.
Nobody hates that actor or his character... and he is hot :) we all give him that... but the character is too…
Yeah Min Gi is great as Jae In
I do not love Jae In LOL at all.... I feel compassion and sympathy for Jae In, but I totally dislike his behavior, especially since he KNOWS he is insecure and greedy and acting out of greed, he said so!!!! and so he doesnt deserve my love until he shows desire and willingness to start healing. I think he has good traits, like him dissing his "father" for finding a trivial cause to take out Grand Prince - that was a noble thing he said - but other than that, he is too immature and too mean and too destructive. He destroys FL and others to get his way. That is NOT ok.
I think Jae In is an interesting complex role and it adds drama to the drama, and it is realistic someonw like that would be meddling, so that role has a place, but I cannot say I like him. he is essentially a villain.
Unless Jae In shapes up ASAP, i am voting to exile him :)
He is amazing!!! I love watching him. He is sooo masterful in creating comedy, omg I will always remember those scenes when they stop after she magic-travels him to his home, and also he is very good with emotional scenes. He is just a great actor. I am sure we will see a lot more from him in the future.
i was looking forward to jaeyi and haerim as a couple :(
both are too immature, it would not go well at all, imo. .... she has a crush on ML.... and she is such a dumb little goose, entitled, and I am not sure about mean - will she backstab to grab ML?? - and Jae In is such a vitriolic angry bitter destructive toxic psycho... he would abuse 2FL..
If they are meant to be, first they need to grow up a little bit
Ppl were swoonng over Jae I and shipping him with FL bc a hot guy is giving her attention - never mind that he is literally killing her with his "attention" .... this is a brazen mysogony plot.... and ppl who are insecure, wounded, etc will fall for this. It was so creepy to see Dynamite Kiss audience totally swoon over overbearing CEO who does sexual harassment and work and otherwise, with the motto "but he loves her". I was creeped out. Women propagate mysogony.
I didnt watch ep 8 but I read here that Jae In did some majorly abusive stuff... so that is a good lesson to all who were shipping him with FL... to see where that kind of guy goes next when you let him be.... The red flags were there from the very start - he NEVER did anything nice to FL and was very abusive and destructive to her - and it can only get worse.
Jae In needs to rehab real fast, or else he should be eliminated. There have to be consequences for his bad behaviors.
The name of the game is: *** NICE IS HOT ****
Yeah Jae-In actor (Min Gi) is hot, and that is great, we love the actor sure he is hot, and we really dislike the character of Jae In so far.
Unless Jae In redeems himself PRONTO, he is a goner.
In later eps male lead will not married with fl. Because sfl will married with male lead. That's, what I heard.…
Ihope NEVER to see ML-2FL marriage. Well back then they were polygamous... So... ML could marry her... and just stash her away and live with his concubine FL... that's a possible real solution that fits that time.
But during Joseon, ML is expected to be a breeding stud and produce kids so it would be expected of him to keep sleeping with all his wives and concubines...
Somehow this ML looks like he will have only one, FL>
People shipping the 2ML with FL like it's Reply 1988 again. Why should the FL choose the man who mistreats her?
Ppl from 1950s mysogony think she should - bc hot guy is giving her attention - never mind that he is literally killing her with his "attention" .... and ppl who are insecure, wounded, etc will fall for this
was Moon River popular internationally? Are historical dramas popular internationally?
Perhaps it is popular in other parts of Asia?
I wish that it be popular imo ML actor is very skilled and needs to get more famous
So I wonder HOW LONG they will be swapping? all their lives?? if so, he will have to know :)
I was rolling off my chair with the scenes of them doing the internal communication software in 3 days. FL actress is ... so funny..... Albert actor is an amazing comedian... And the others too.... That scene when FL feeds the software guy LMAO Albert gets up to box LOL omg omg omg omg I love this series ....
FL actress is a mystery to me. She actually does not act well. There are many scenes where it is obvious she is pretending and acting. She acts makjang and totally overdoes the scenes. But .. for some reason - which I am trying to figure out why - I find it INCREDIBLY interesting to watch her. She somehow catches me and hooks me on. Is it ... her presence? Or her totally knowing what she is doing and then pulling me in to watch her shenanigans? In any case, I am GLUED TO THE SCREEN to see what the next shenanigan is.....
OH I GET IT WHY.... her acting totally matches the scenes - she acts all emotions necessary, she just mostly overdoes them, ** but not always **. For example, scenes with her ex are dead serious for real. But scenes in making software are are total makjang clowning CHAOS LMAO and getting dragged by her officemates after the disciplinary meeting is a combo of both.... So we kinda know when she is clowning and when she is showing us a really important message and scenes... And she ALWAYS expresses different kinds of feelings. She accentuates the feelings... She makjang-ish scoffs or rolls her eyes... and she "as if in real life" stares at the CEO when summoned...
So she is always engaged in showing SOME kind of *different* emotion.... Unlike Ji Sung who is also a jester but he always acts the same, so I do not find him interestinig.
The use of makjang in this drama is hilarious... Like that scene in ep 3 just before they get paychecks, when they are informed they got new work, and their reactions OMG LMAO It is serious but makjang is used to show how they really feel and it is HILARIOUS it is brilliant
so that is why FL actress style is so catchy... we always clearly see her (and everyone else's around her) true feelings.
FL is really fantastic.
Albert is ridiculous LMAO but Albert actor is somehow pulling it off as genuine LOL It is incredibly funny. I found a new fav actor. He too goes between clowning and serious acting at will ... and it is just amazing acting.
FL's boss as usual is a total riot LOL One of my fav actors for a good reason :) He is amazing
NoRa is really dumb... but is really cute and honest. That actress is really good looking.
Manager Bo or Go - what is her name? the roommate - is really interesting...
I am having a great time with this drama. It is a real GEM. it is soooo refreshingly funny....
It is a total clown comedy yet it is very serious and deep at the same time. So good.
the script made him a very honest, kind, smart, wise and capable person, and the actor really brought all the complexities of that character - who had to OVERCOME his entitlemend, arrogance, naivette, and all that. This is masterful acting of a very capable actor who is bringing various shades of 'spoiled brat growing up into a nice man." That actor had the range of expressions to portray that. It is a very sophisticated actor who was able to catch the small nuances and make comedy of it and make expressions that convey various complex and deep feelings, and say his lines with utmost "make believe" convincing way. Great actor. There is no acting, there is no "I am pretending" there is "I AM this character, and this character is alive"
How he treats FL is quite exemplary for 21st century, really. He communicates honestly and considerately and tries to work things out. yeah it is a good script, but without an actor who CAN ACT IT, the script is useless. ML actor brought it to life.
ML is the adult in this story. (And not perfect LOL there is dueling and some other small details where he is immature egoistical dumb).
FL is still immature in too many ways. 2ML is an idiot. 2FL is a naive goose and possibly entitled jealous greedy.
ML's mother, FL's father, are just egoistical helicopter parents.
Actor Min Gi is doing a great job of portraying psycho cruel greedy toddler Jae In., and so Jae In is annoying many people with his bad behaviors. Jae In is also swooning some with his attention via violence.
The actor is good looking so Jae In is good looking, so immature fans think that Jae In's "attention" via violence is hot. Nope, it is NOT hot for Jae In to be so cruel mean destructive. Jae In is abusive and a murderer now too. THat's what many are saying.
The reality is, Jae In is creating some super bad karma and has to be held responsible. What he did at the end of ep 8 is intentional murder of many people so that he can get what he wants - FL as concubine. That is not love, it is a psychotic toxic obsession of a very weak, confused, immature, AND mean person.
Nothing personal, but Jae In has serious mental and emotional issues, as he thinks that he is so special that his life situation requires destroying lives of others and his own life. Jae In is IGNORANT to the point of willingly harming others .... and himself.
So the drama will milk it and somehow he will have to pay for his wrongdoings bc it is drama LOL In real life, Jae In could easily become another Genghis Khan and kill soooo many ppl and keep creating chaos and suffering. He would marry FL and abuse her.
Jae In is effectively a villain. Hopefully one day he will make a U turn and grow up. Or not. Maybe he dies or gets exiled if he doesnt want to clean up his bad karma. ...
So JaeIn will probably stay on the screen until the end, bc he is good looking and some audience likes mysogony and psychotic abuse by good looking guys (like in Boys Over Flowers).
Hopefully very soon and definitely by the end, it would be clear if he stays a villain or not.
To have the redemption arc, Jae In actor needs to act a lot more than just being a closed down poker face villain, he has to have the skillZ to express a transformation
It is easy to act a bully. You just keep a poker face. To act transformation and/or to act as a complex villain requires so much more finesse. So let us see that. This is really a challenge for that actor to grow into more complex roles that involve expressing a wider range of emotions.
Yeah sure he is good looking guy and can look mean. But can he also look ... happy? confused? vulenrable? considerate? caring? Sad? smitten? ... Also, a more complex villain is more interesting to watch :) Just a poker face/angry villain is kinda too simple :)
maybe Jae In is not willing nor able to go there and will stay a SIMPLE bad character to the end. That is also a cheesy way to keep the ML too simple as the contrast is too obvious - the good guy ML and bad guy 2ML. But .... to make it really interesting... ML should have faults that he overcomes - which ML already did - and Jae In should have some traces of humanity and struggle with his afflictions and violence and ... win or lose that internal battle. We will see.
So if we are going to be swooned by Jae In, the proper way is to see him struggle to get free of his afflictions, so that we can root for him, and at the end, he could win or lose the inner battle but at least he tried, and we can either cry that he lost, or celebrate that he transformed.
Right now, he is not trying NOR willing, so we cannot root for him at all. We can only root that he finally wakes up and has a desire to try. But he is not showing any signs of any inclination to do so - he says he is an animal and kills a whole village without even blinking, he keeps getting worse and worse, so... the situation is bleak. He might not make it bc he simply does not want to..
There is nothing to root for Jae In YET. As is, he is on the chopping block as a lost case, so far. It can change in a second, but it has NOT changed yet. So I am waiting before I root for him.
RIght now, Jae In is willingly a villain who thinks of nothing of murdering people to benefit himself.
Nothing personal to the script writer - I think that creating a script by stupid woman and a guy saving her - is sheer trash.
ML saved her like a Superman. SO CHEESY STUPID>
He could have saved her in a different way. For example, opened the gate as she was running away, or something like that. It is ok that he saves her - it is give and take, sometimes she saves him and sometimes he saves her. So it is ok he saved her that night. But not like that!!!!! Not she just closing her eyes waiting to be struck, instead of escaping!!!!
Now we have the SAME OLD STUPID MYSOGENIC SITUATION - A DUMB LOSER FL SAVED BY SUPERHUMAN ALWAYS PROTECTIVE ALWAYS SUPERIOR ML
I hate this trope with passion. I think that trope is a trashy mysogenic BRAINWASHING
DISCLAIMER written later: I dont think the entire drama is mysogenic. Just those details. Which makes me worried the drama will go in the wrong direction. ... So far, it did not, thank god for that...
It says nothing about the actor except that he is acting that role well.
The actor is good looking so Jae In is good looking, so immature fans think that Jae In's violence is hot. Nope it is not hot for Jae In to be so cruel mean destructive. THat's what many are saying.
I do not love Jae In LOL at all.... I feel compassion and sympathy for Jae In, but I totally dislike his behavior, especially since he KNOWS he is insecure and greedy and acting out of greed, he said so!!!! and so he doesnt deserve my love until he shows desire and willingness to start healing. I think he has good traits, like him dissing his "father" for finding a trivial cause to take out Grand Prince - that was a noble thing he said - but other than that, he is too immature and too mean and too destructive. He destroys FL and others to get his way. That is NOT ok.
I think Jae In is an interesting complex role and it adds drama to the drama, and it is realistic someonw like that would be meddling, so that role has a place, but I cannot say I like him. he is essentially a villain.
Unless Jae In shapes up ASAP, i am voting to exile him :)
she has a crush on ML.... and she is such a dumb little goose, entitled, and I am not sure about mean - will she backstab to grab ML?? - and Jae In is such a vitriolic angry bitter destructive toxic psycho... he would abuse 2FL..
If they are meant to be, first they need to grow up a little bit
never mind that he is literally killing her with his "attention" .... this is a brazen mysogony plot....
and ppl who are insecure, wounded, etc will fall for this. It was so creepy to see Dynamite Kiss audience totally swoon over overbearing CEO who does sexual harassment and work and otherwise, with the motto "but he loves her". I was creeped out. Women propagate mysogony.
I didnt watch ep 8 but I read here that Jae In did some majorly abusive stuff... so that is a good lesson to all who were shipping him with FL... to see where that kind of guy goes next when you let him be.... The red flags were there from the very start - he NEVER did anything nice to FL and was very abusive and destructive to her - and it can only get worse.
Jae In needs to rehab real fast, or else he should be eliminated. There have to be consequences for his bad behaviors.
The name of the game is: *** NICE IS HOT ****
Yeah Jae-In actor (Min Gi) is hot, and that is great, we love the actor sure he is hot, and we really dislike the character of Jae In so far.
Unless Jae In redeems himself PRONTO, he is a goner.
Well back then they were polygamous... So... ML could marry her... and just stash her away and live with his concubine FL... that's a possible real solution that fits that time.
But during Joseon, ML is expected to be a breeding stud and produce kids so it would be expected of him to keep sleeping with all his wives and concubines...
Somehow this ML looks like he will have only one, FL>
and ppl who are insecure, wounded, etc will fall for this