He will soon have three when he marries Slutty Yu-Na.
lmao you are right!!!!! YN just wants to marry **any** Chairman - and since the old fart is kinda fed up with his two old women ... well yeah!!!! Wow that's an awesome idea for the script!!!!
G is irritating so much, being so slimy secretive liar - WHY? Telling that he is adopted and that he was in a car accident with his dad are NOT big things to say. Why does he keep lying and bsing? What a rat.
He is just too WEAK and slimy as a character and I dont want EA to get stuck with that lying rat, he always keeps causing trouble for her with his lies
The foundation of this drama is POLYGAMY - Chairman Brutus has two wives, and he keeps playing them against each other, and that is how HE stays in power :)
So this drama is an excellent demonstration why polygamy is so pathetic and produces idiotically spoiled wicked males and super wicked crafty mean nasty and STUCK POWERLESS women
I cannot think of any country in the world that has polygamy and is doing well (I am not counting Arabs bc I dont see anything significant coming out of those countries except oil) E.g. deep inherent corruption in Africa has much to do with polygamy, as a child growing up you get trained in favoritism, cheating, lying, backstabbing, lack of loyalty, hatred, animosity, competition and fights, adn you NEVER learn about true love, care and dedication, ie CORRUPTION STARTS ON THE BASIC LEVEL OF FAMILY, and women are nothing, and it is super deeply ingrained. I think Africa cannot move one inch forward until it cleans that up. Is it too late already?...
what is 1 thing you like and 1 thing you dislike about this show.
I think there are some profound dialogues that show extreme complexity and nuance of the characters - it is a shocking surprise that happens rarely but when it does it is super mind blowing - for example, serial killer JR giving her some a speech about how he must have a wife who loves him and how important love is -!!! then HJ's speeches to JR and others when he was asking whose son he is, etc the whole HJ anguish and inner conflicts are very well portrayed - And it is exciting to see a new star being born, HJ actor. Many characters in this drama have complexity and paradox - HJ is super complex character, has some great lines, and has a great actor in the role, which makes it interesting; and then other characters, e.g. the fat loud female secretary seduced the skinny polished James
As for bad: The drama is a low level trash, everyone is a serial killer or a victim seeking revenge. The drama is based on polygamy and Chairman playing his two wives to make sure he stays on top. The basic plot is a very raw soap. Also, many characters are cartoon simple - YN is just evil and dumb, it is too bad a new unskilled actor is in that role... , The bad part is MJ actor who is still too stiff. But his role SHOULD BE complex and he jsut cannot pull it off... Chloe is also made too simple and I suspect that the actress can do more than just looking nervous the entire time. Chloe script is unfortunately dumbed down and made her into a 1-D character which has no complexity. Just lately, it got better as Chloe is starting to feel compassion for HJ's suffering. Otherwise, we NEVER see Chloe wrestling with any inner conflicts. She is too simple, as IF she has no inner conflicts.
The plus of it is that the drama seems genuinely Korean. This drama has nothing polished to appease Western audience. The actors are not plasticized models. The authenticity is a plus of this drama. The raw crude Chairman Brutus is super real. Chairman Brutus is just evil - but his actions are varied and the actor is great, he really conveys that kind of "hot uncivilized brute patriarch from the lowest parts of society" so that character is actually interesting to watch. He is a red neck Korean way and he is super interesting. The polite meek wannabe-backstabber Aunt is very real too. That is one very good actress, despite the polished look of that character, there is a sense of a live person underneath. The crude primitive tenacious villain JR is also quite genuine - she has her lover next to her and watches over her son and then tries to steal as much as she can.
Gosh the running away of JM was the stupidest scenes EVER JM and BH holding a reunion while the criminals are after them... JM running in high heels and not even thinking of ditching to the side or something and then BH saves her from WTOD by hugging her in front of the WTOD
THIS DRAMA GETS A PRIZE FOR THE DUMBEST CHARACTERS yeah even dumber than Woman Who Swallowed the Sun
Oh that rat JH escaped bc his mommy saved him. Omg.... This is TRASH TO THE MAX. He is gonna have to die saving JM for me to rate this drama more than 3.0.
Chairman is a greedy old scrooge. So he knew that baby BH was floating around orphanages and did NOTHING to look for him? Hoping that BH will never show up again so Chairman gets to keep the checkbook with $2 billion? I reallly reallllly dislike Chairman. Such a fat slime.
Ah yeah leave it to DumbMi to create unnecessary stupid plot bc she is so dumb!!!! and her whole team!!! nobody has any tracker on their phone???? And BH - so cute and so dumb!!!! A man just to look good on screen and serve JM as her dumb slave and lackey. What a waste of character! So that moron is gonna run a billion dollar hotel and he has NO common sense and NO business sense... ????
I wish someone would get this drama writer an MDL account. She deserves to see the comment posts about her masterpiece.…
Anyone can read MDL comments so the fact that the moron writer did nothing to improve means a very insolent incompetent .... AI program maybe? That scriptwriter is BANNED from my world. If I see anything with that name, I RUN in the other direction. And director too.
WHY ON EARTH would you watch with English dubbing anyway and not the original Language?!Half the Cultural nuance…
True, it reeks of that possibility, esp since the person said they will rewatch with subs, but there could be other reasons...
That person might have a poor eyesight and/or brain and does better with audio than having to read the subs at the same time as watching the video. The subs can be tiny, are super fast and I often do not even have the time to read them and have to rewind. Not everyone has the patience for that.
Also, reading the subs takes away from watching the video. Sometimes I watch in Korean - which i do NOT speak - without the subs just so that I can SEE how they act.
But I would never watch it dubbed, it sounds ... offensive lmao it is so counterfeit lmao
I think it is good to present the concept that preferring it dubbed rather than subbed is often a case of ignorance - since most ignorant ppl did not even think of that - but we have to be careful not to make it seem we are sure this particular person was ignorant.... Maybe they were .. and maybe they were not... :)
And fyi most dubbed are in Tagalog (Philippines) and Hindi (India), very poor places. One reason I suspect is that not everyone might be literate enough to read the subtitles...
I am watching this on Viki and for some reason this drama gave off AI vibes until I realised it was the fault…
Assuming you can read the subtitles - then - Why watch in dubbing, then you lose the flavor of the drama, you lose the ACTING via voice!!!!!! that is so crucial for the drama!!!!! you lose the video since their mouths and the words do not match lmao and you dont learn Korean cultural subleties so important for the drama.
I am educated enough now to know when the subs are not true to what they are saying. For example, the drama ppl usually say "Oppa" and the subtitle shows them calling ppl by name. Nope.
The "oppa" concept is very important and does not exist in English.
YOU GOTTA WATCH THE ORIGINAL, and if you cannot see the subtitles, then try to make them larger, there is usually the setting.
If you just cannot read, for whatever reason, then you ARE stuck with dubbed...
Chairman in young body is not changing much internally, he is still too often behaving as a ruthless scrooge
The drama is mostly about mind games between people but we also need to see their emotional and spiritual growth, their character growth
So far, the Chairman grew one tiny bit to take grandma out and BUY her stuff... but no more than that... and his dumb son became slightly wiser... but other than that - nobody grew Ah yeah, his evil daughter got even more evil but that does NOT count as character growth lmao
The evil daughter lies so much that it is hard to tell when she tells the truth ONCE, e.g. about T framing her. I wonder how Chairman concluded he should investigate
I haven't watched Reborn Rookie, could you mention the Actor's actual name?!Can't compare them without knowing…
Those two women you mentioned, I just looked them up. They both have long red hair in the same style... , but Turkish lady has a lot more delicate facial features and a long triangular face, more prominent cheek bones, and bigger softer eyes - hm reeks of plastic surgery? and the other one has a thicker and square face with triangle just on the top, smaller eyes but more piercing, more rough sturdy look. They look different to me. But with that long red hair and similar behaviors, they could easily be mistaken for each other
I haven't watched Reborn Rookie, could you mention the Actor's actual name?!Can't compare them without knowing…
I have met in person 2 of my lookalikes. Even similar colorings.... and the face looked almost identical. It was creepy and also comforting And they are from really far away places from where I was born and raised
I haven't watched Reborn Rookie, could you mention the Actor's actual name?!Can't compare them without knowing…
I dont know how to find out about those two S Korean actors. Not only do they have the same facial features, they also have the same facial EXPRESSIONS. They act in the same way, with the same gestures and facial expressions. That slightly surprised aloof look. It is uncanny, they look like identical twins.
I am not on Reddit but someone can ask there or on some kdrama fan page
I haven't watched Reborn Rookie, could you mention the Actor's actual name?!Can't compare them without knowing…
Turkey is one of the MOST genetically diverse places on earth, bc Otoman Empire brought in slaves and captives from all over Eastern, Western, Southern Europe and Balkans, Middle East, Africa, and entire Asia...
***Turkish people can have features of ANY genetic pool out there Souleyman the Magnificent Killer Thief and Rapist had a Slavic favorite wife
Northern Russia / Scandinavia / Eastern Europe / Germany/ Austria are very mixed up genetically It was Austro-Hungarian Empire back then
so it is no surprise that the Northern genes come out in a modern Turkish person
I have seen turkish dramas with people with naturally red hair and blue eyes, slavic looking people, Chinese/Asiatic looking ppl, S Asian looking, very white ppl, very dark ppl, .... ... I have seen ONE black Turkish actor in a turkish drama. In a role of a servant.... So I am not sure how many black Turks are out there too..... Then there are Roma that wonder anywhere ... from India to entire Europe...
So - a Turkish person can look like ANYONE from ANYWHERE
He is just too WEAK and slimy as a character and I dont want EA to get stuck with that lying rat, he always keeps causing trouble for her with his lies
So this drama is an excellent demonstration why polygamy is so pathetic and produces idiotically spoiled wicked males and super wicked crafty mean nasty and STUCK POWERLESS women
I cannot think of any country in the world that has polygamy and is doing well
(I am not counting Arabs bc I dont see anything significant coming out of those countries except oil)
E.g. deep inherent corruption in Africa has much to do with polygamy, as a child growing up you get trained in favoritism, cheating, lying, backstabbing, lack of loyalty, hatred, animosity, competition and fights, adn you NEVER learn about true love, care and dedication, ie CORRUPTION STARTS ON THE BASIC LEVEL OF FAMILY, and women are nothing, and it is super deeply ingrained. I think Africa cannot move one inch forward until it cleans that up. Is it too late already?...
Many characters in this drama have complexity and paradox - HJ is super complex character, has some great lines, and has a great actor in the role, which makes it interesting; and then other characters, e.g. the fat loud female secretary seduced the skinny polished James
As for bad: The drama is a low level trash, everyone is a serial killer or a victim seeking revenge. The drama is based on polygamy and Chairman playing his two wives to make sure he stays on top. The basic plot is a very raw soap.
Also, many characters are cartoon simple - YN is just evil and dumb, it is too bad a new unskilled actor is in that role... ,
The bad part is MJ actor who is still too stiff. But his role SHOULD BE complex and he jsut cannot pull it off...
Chloe is also made too simple and I suspect that the actress can do more than just looking nervous the entire time. Chloe script is unfortunately dumbed down and made her into a 1-D character which has no complexity. Just lately, it got better as Chloe is starting to feel compassion for HJ's suffering. Otherwise, we NEVER see Chloe wrestling with any inner conflicts. She is too simple, as IF she has no inner conflicts.
The plus of it is that the drama seems genuinely Korean. This drama has nothing polished to appease Western audience. The actors are not plasticized models. The authenticity is a plus of this drama. The raw crude Chairman Brutus is super real. Chairman Brutus is just evil - but his actions are varied and the actor is great, he really conveys that kind of "hot uncivilized brute patriarch from the lowest parts of society" so that character is actually interesting to watch. He is a red neck Korean way and he is super interesting.
The polite meek wannabe-backstabber Aunt is very real too. That is one very good actress, despite the polished look of that character, there is a sense of a live person underneath. The crude primitive tenacious villain JR is also quite genuine - she has her lover next to her and watches over her son and then tries to steal as much as she can.
JM and BH holding a reunion while the criminals are after them... JM running in high heels and not even thinking of ditching to the side or something
and then BH saves her from WTOD by hugging her in front of the WTOD
THIS DRAMA GETS A PRIZE FOR THE DUMBEST CHARACTERS
yeah even dumber than Woman Who Swallowed the Sun
Chairman is a greedy old scrooge. So he knew that baby BH was floating around orphanages and did NOTHING to look for him? Hoping that BH will never show up again so Chairman gets to keep the checkbook with $2 billion? I reallly reallllly dislike Chairman. Such a fat slime.
Ah yeah leave it to DumbMi to create unnecessary stupid plot bc she is so dumb!!!! and her whole team!!! nobody has any tracker on their phone????
And BH - so cute and so dumb!!!! A man just to look good on screen and serve JM as her dumb slave and lackey. What a waste of character! So that moron is gonna run a billion dollar hotel and he has NO common sense and NO business sense... ????
That scriptwriter is BANNED from my world. If I see anything with that name, I RUN in the other direction. And director too.
but the filming... I could not take it. And the music... ah so over the top and distracting.
So I just read the plot and fast forwarded through the movie.
Filmed properly, this would be a masterpiece.
but they sure look and act the same
It is quite crude not to know that
So I give you 10 mins to read this and then I will block you
FAREWELL
but there could be other reasons...
That person might have a poor eyesight and/or brain and does better with audio than having to read the subs at the same time as watching the video. The subs can be tiny, are super fast and I often do not even have the time to read them and have to rewind. Not everyone has the patience for that.
Also, reading the subs takes away from watching the video. Sometimes I watch in Korean - which i do NOT speak - without the subs just so that I can SEE how they act.
But I would never watch it dubbed, it sounds ... offensive lmao it is so counterfeit lmao
I think it is good to present the concept that preferring it dubbed rather than subbed is often a case of ignorance - since most ignorant ppl did not even think of that - but we have to be careful not to make it seem we are sure this particular person was ignorant.... Maybe they were .. and maybe they were not... :)
And fyi most dubbed are in Tagalog (Philippines) and Hindi (India), very poor places. One reason I suspect is that not everyone might be literate enough to read the subtitles...
and you dont learn Korean cultural subleties so important for the drama.
I am educated enough now to know when the subs are not true to what they are saying. For example, the drama ppl usually say "Oppa" and the subtitle shows them calling ppl by name. Nope.
The "oppa" concept is very important and does not exist in English.
YOU GOTTA WATCH THE ORIGINAL, and if you cannot see the subtitles, then try to make them larger, there is usually the setting.
If you just cannot read, for whatever reason, then you ARE stuck with dubbed...
The drama is mostly about mind games between people but we also need to see their emotional and spiritual growth, their character growth
So far, the Chairman grew one tiny bit to take grandma out and BUY her stuff... but no more than that... and his dumb son became slightly wiser... but other than that - nobody grew
Ah yeah, his evil daughter got even more evil but that does NOT count as character growth lmao
The evil daughter lies so much that it is hard to tell when she tells the truth ONCE, e.g. about T framing her. I wonder how Chairman concluded he should investigate
And they are from really far away places from where I was born and raised
I am not on Reddit but someone can ask there or on some kdrama fan page
***Turkish people can have features of ANY genetic pool out there
Souleyman the Magnificent Killer Thief and Rapist had a Slavic favorite wife
Northern Russia / Scandinavia / Eastern Europe / Germany/ Austria are very mixed up genetically
It was Austro-Hungarian Empire back then
so it is no surprise that the Northern genes come out in a modern Turkish person
I have seen turkish dramas with people with naturally red hair and blue eyes, slavic looking people, Chinese/Asiatic looking ppl, S Asian looking, very white ppl, very dark ppl, .... ...
I have seen ONE black Turkish actor in a turkish drama. In a role of a servant.... So I am not sure how many black Turks are out there too.....
Then there are Roma that wonder anywhere ... from India to entire Europe...
So - a Turkish person can look like ANYONE from ANYWHERE