Ater ep 5... wow this drama is moving fast in a positive direction :) I really appreciate the positive healthy messages, a nice warm vibe. and HONEST COMMUNICATION. ML is a great communicator, and FL luckily did not stay jerk for too long, made a U-turn and started telling the Truth rather fast. Yay! They are good role models for a successful pair and actually... parents :)
Ok after this I can see why ppl say that the ML actor is known for picking good scripts. This drama has the right warm, light, deep, humorous, self reflection, communication and teamwork vibe and imo is a real kdrama.
PS - I have no clue where he was telling her he waited for her 36 years and can wait 2 more... Someone online was complaining how toxic it was and I want to check that out... there was a lot in ep 3 that i skipped bc FL was too abusively snotty to the guy being honest with her. I would have screamed if I had seen that scene and her turning her nose up on him... He is honestly saying something that a person in love WOULD say, often, any parnter and esp spouse needs to hear those words OFTEN. The dude is spilling out his love, that is to be appreciated, not trashed. So I might have not paid enough attention during the snot phase of the drama. I disliked harassing a kind person just bc he is honest about how he feels in a way that is not super polished yet not out of place. ADDED LATER: THAT SCENE IS IN EP 6 WHICH I DID NOT SEE YET LOL
Sooo.... I 100% disagree with the person who wrote that scene was toxic... He was courting her and he was crossing the line respectfully, just not like a smooth player - why despise him for that... ???
I am glad that toxic snot-between-them era of the drama is OVER halelujah baby. Well actually it is going to get darker NOW WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH HER SNOTTY SNOWFLAKE FAMILY and also his criminal runaway sister. That's gonna be ugly as sister will try to take nephew with her, and we all know how twistedly toxic loyal the nephew is!!!! and FL's mom and dad will NOT like the unpolished ML.
The ML is not new... He was the ML in Tunnel, he was in The heirs, He was also in Gu family book (Kang chi father),…
Never mind.... bv in this drama he acts here as if he started yesterday. It is obvious he pretends :) It might work for historical dramas or fantasy or Weak Hero violence dramas, where you just keep a poker face and speak pompously, ... but that does not work here :) I remember him from some ancient drama where he was american Daniel and there he was cement too.
Some actors can pull it off and use the same hair, same costuming, AND give impression of a diferent character. THat is the bad guy Pyo dad in Typhoon family AND One High School Heros dad AND a good fun judge in Shin's Project etc etc etc But.... some cannot ... and this one is one of those.
On the plus side, the drama just started, so he has plenty of chances to show off his acting skills as his character gets more and more complex and deeper. But he better hurry up. It will make the drama a lot better.
Just watched ep 3/half 4.... Imo another woman chasing the ML would speed up the plot and help FL get rid of her snob attitude. ML is actually a good catch. A guy less polished but honest, hard working and dedicated and ah so in love IS THE CATCH OF THE CENTURY...
Unfortunately, FL is a snotty snob city slicker cheabol and is too dumb to see what is right under her nose - but she is starting to get the idea... The doggy scene in ep 4 is the start ...
ML is too nice and rednecky and has a reputation for being a "killer" so nobody is chasing him, but ISNT THERE SOMEONE who would like to check him out after seeing how nicely he treats the FL?..... I cannot imagine that ALL women in that village are that dumb to miss that cue....
FL needs to get a kick to her snotty snob bu.t and treat ML well.
Same with the young SFL she is super dumb nasty INSECURE. The nephew is an idiot, very immature guy. That chick is too nasty to love anyone. Give her up
what do you mean everyone sleeping? but us here .. are not, right? Spread the word :)
This drama is truly excellent and imo better than Moon River bc the script is a lot better.
So how to make it more popular? Rate individual episodes high. Spread the word. Etc
International fans are not used to excellent dialogue ... but they could remember what it means to talk well and communicate LOL and they could like it. Bc it is really precious and the entire West is LOOKING FOR IT, just in wrong ways. So let's explain to them that they found what they have been looking for.
ML-FL here are equals in their relationship and communicate rather openly and honestly. It is not perfect, there are some hiccups. they are young and their backgrounds come with tons of bs baggage, but they keep improving. They are already a pretty good team and becoming a model pair for gender equality, good relationship skills and communication, and generally, a very profound mature deep long lasting love. ML is already quite exemplary in how he treats her and talks with FL. We are waiting for her to grow up a little more too.
Another great love drama is Idol I, which has NO icky childish anio! lies and overbearing CEO tropes and such sh.t. ML tried to misbehave in his entitled tantrumy old ways, SELF REFLECTED real fast and made a U-turn in 1 episode, cleared of his character flaw LOL Idol I is a very strong drama about two grown ups, already established in their lives as top not professionals, becoming a strong pair, and it was in top 10 Netflix global for 3 consecutive weeks.
In this drama, ML did the same thing, in about 2 or 3 episodes.. Being a very young, inexperienced Joseon prince dealing with avery young, inexperienced commoner, that is a SUPER FAST AND PROFOUND U-turn and transformation LOL
Top dramas really make that U-turn very profoundly. Weaker dramas have this U-turn happen later and weaker. But a total trash drama on wrong premises, like Dynamite Kiss or Can this love be translated, can be popular :( for wrong reasons ....
Anyways, we the audience can promote this drama. It is top notch indeed.
Luckily, other romcom airing now also have solid attempts at teamwork and communication and are progressing - No Tail to Tell, Spring Fever, Positively Yours, also have overall positive messages and warmth and lightness and humor that is the trademark of real kdramas.
Ok yes thank you for clarifying: Park Geon Il is in The Judge Returns and in First Man and Choi Jin Hyuk is in Positively Yours They look similar to me and act in same way too
yes, esp ML actor is not good at all. I hope he improves. FL actress looks like she had plastic surgery with lips…
Yeah there are but for some reason, these got it so ... here we are. There is still time to improve the drama if they havent finished filming it. ML actor needs to quickly start acting better. He has a better script. FL is a decent actor but her script can be a little too .. insecure... but is not too bad... so this drama is definitely doable.
*** This particular pair is actually cute together. I am really getting the vibe of a young pregnant couple and it is VERY cute and endearing. They are really good at it. So I hope this keeps improving. Ep 1 was sucky, ep 2 and up started getting better and better, so let us keep our fingers crossed.
wow what drama are you watching.... ? I have sharp eyes and I see masterful acting. Lemon is great and Gumiho…
I explained what I am watching. I can quote you scenes with excellent acting. For example, after they magic travel to his house, and he asks her what was that? and if they can do more? those scenes are HILARIOUS. Gumiho is super convincing in her gnashing teeth and yelling and revenge and arrogance and selfishness as a nasty fox. She is so ignorant, the scene when she cluelessly told her best friend to kill her husband is a wow scene. She HONESTLY thought it was a good idea. The scene when he feeds her bc her hand is shaking is an amazing scene where she is already melted and behaving like a girly girl spoiled brat and he is so enjoying pampering her and she LOVES it.
The voice over of Gumiho is very very profound and she acted so well her choice. I wrote about all these scenes before so I thought you saw them. Any more scenes I need to remind you of that prove excellent acting?
you on the other hand do not sound credible bc you are not describing EXACTLY what you think is bad. So then we cannot have a discussion.
I think ML-FL in Idol I are equals, communicate well and are a great team, and Lomon just started treating the…
Oh no!! I am sorry for the misundestanding!!! THIS IS A TOP DRAMA AND HAS GREAT ML-FL TEAMWORK. ML-FL ARE equal in their relationship as two people!!! in this drama, they are not equal by rank and so yes it starts very imbalanced, he is powerful and she is a slave, .... but they progressed ... and are now equal between them.
When I said "equal" I meant THAT. **** No matter what their outside rank, they are equal in their relationship. ****
This drama too is a pretty good example of great teamwork and honest communications. They still lie to each other sometimes but it is not sooo bad. I ASSUMED that :) so thank you for reminding me to say it :)
I would not drop this drama! it is very good! The script is amazing.
It is not perfect LOL there is still sexism and FL acts stupid sometimes so that he can save her. But is not as bad as it could have been :) In Idol I, there is NONE of any of that, and they are equal by rank too. In No Tail to Tell, it starts unequal like here, she is powerful and he is at her mercy, but then things level up and they start treating each other equally
Spring Fever and Positively Yours are also pretty good rom coms where the relationship starts uneven - a kind redneck dumbo and a snotty snide city slicker cheabol; an insecure office worker and a CEO that get pregnant by chance - but ... believe it or not, they are working it out somehow... They are pretty solid rom coms with positive messages.
I would stay away from Dynamite Kiss and Can this love be translated, bc they are not equal at all and there is no communication and teamwork at all. Those are real flop dramas imo
I really appreciate the progress in acting of 2ML actor.. he did nasty poker faced villains in those high school fights dramas - was the last one One High School Heroes or Weak Hero season 10004? lol But in this drama he is behaving like a normal person and shows a more complex character with a lot more emotions. Keep on going, one day you make it to ML :)
The ML on this drama is soooo new, he cannot really act... so I wish him to relax and practice some more. FL is better but not great.
But who cares, right? This is a rom com with all the tropes - the CEO, the insecure poor woman, etc. BUT THE SCRIPT IS DECENT, the CEO is trying to be kind and the loser woman knows she is bsing. THe plot is already moving faster.
I like many of the messages of this drama, it seems positive.
I really appreciate that the CEO is very honest and that the lady is not 100% loser like so many other FLs. This FL is not too bad and seems like is fast becoming better and can be really honest. So ...
It is so cute to see this pregnant couple. They really a great pair of lovebirds. it is very endearing and honestly. S Korea should improve their (globally lowest) birth rates.
Whats up with the FL's upper lip. Is it bad makeup... is it fillers... they bother me so muchh..i mean acting…
yes, esp ML actor is not good at all. I hope he improves. FL actress looks like she had plastic surgery with lips and cannot open them properly while talking
Yes, it feels just like Dynamite Kiss which ended last week. What’s wrong with the guys who don’t make a move…
they dont really love her :) so they dont feel the urge to come closer, so they are never willing to risk it and fight for her. They use her for comfort and company, like a nice cozy cushion for themselves. So when their cushy life is taken, they want it back
the styling and makeup of the fl is terrible and what’s up with her lips?. it’s hard to believe she’s the…
what was she in Nice to Not Meet you? I cannot remember her...
her lips look like plastic surgery to me, and she barely opens them when speaking and I dislike that
her styling and makeup for Positively Yours is appropriate imo, she is a single and rather poor woman without social life, and she never took care of herself. So yeah she is supposed to look ok but not really kept up
Am I alone in thinking the drinking culture in dramas is really lame?
oh no, you are not... It is official that S Korea is global 14th in alcohol consumption and there are efforts even in S Korea to curb it... like the drama Second Shot at Love, about a female alcoholic rehab - together with alcoholic father and sister - after her lover became clean and sober
Yeah S Korea has a problem with alcohol and it is sometimes addressed now more openly. I think it is one of the things that leads to globally lowest birth rate, so they are trying to get esp women healthier. One famous actor recently made an interview how nobody calls him out bc he doesnt drink. THis drama is trying to address that forced drinking at social events.
So they are trying... But ... it is hard.. did you notice product placements in dramas now, whiskey, etc heavy western liquior? That is REALLY strong and bad for ya. I would think soju being bitter is not as bad .. And makgouli does not seem as terrible either
guys don’t worry Jae I definitely dies at the end (saving the fl probably) but let’s just enjoy the drama…
Having Jae In in the story is totally fine, the drama needs a villain and he is actually a key villain. The problem is when the audience roots for him and ships him with FL bc he is a hot guy. Bc a hot guy can do whatever he wants, to the point of being cruel. As if being abusive and mean is some kind of turn on. Heck no.
Out of currently airing dramas I'm watching, To My Beloved Thief is the most I like. -Eunjo and Yeol are so good…
I think ML-FL in Idol I are equals, communicate well and are a great team, and Lomon just started treating the Fox well in No Tail to Tell and they seem to started communicating and being a great team. There is hope :) This drama too is a pretty good example of great teamwork and honest communications. They still lie to each other sometimes but it is not sooo bad.
Ok after this I can see why ppl say that the ML actor is known for picking good scripts. This drama has the right warm, light, deep, humorous, self reflection, communication and teamwork vibe and imo is a real kdrama.
PS - I have no clue where he was telling her he waited for her 36 years and can wait 2 more... Someone online was complaining how toxic it was and I want to check that out... there was a lot in ep 3 that i skipped bc FL was too abusively snotty to the guy being honest with her. I would have screamed if I had seen that scene and her turning her nose up on him...
He is honestly saying something that a person in love WOULD say, often, any parnter and esp spouse needs to hear those words OFTEN. The dude is spilling out his love, that is to be appreciated, not trashed.
So I might have not paid enough attention during the snot phase of the drama. I disliked harassing a kind person just bc he is honest about how he feels in a way that is not super polished yet not out of place.
ADDED LATER: THAT SCENE IS IN EP 6 WHICH I DID NOT SEE YET LOL
Sooo.... I 100% disagree with the person who wrote that scene was toxic... He was courting her and he was crossing the line respectfully, just not like a smooth player - why despise him for that... ???
I am glad that toxic snot-between-them era of the drama is OVER halelujah baby.
Well actually it is going to get darker NOW WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH HER SNOTTY SNOWFLAKE FAMILY and also his criminal runaway sister. That's gonna be ugly as sister will try to take nephew with her, and we all know how twistedly toxic loyal the nephew is!!!! and FL's mom and dad will NOT like the unpolished ML.
I remember him from some ancient drama where he was american Daniel and there he was cement too.
Some actors can pull it off and use the same hair, same costuming, AND give impression of a diferent character. THat is the bad guy Pyo dad in Typhoon family AND One High School Heros dad AND a good fun judge in Shin's Project etc etc etc
But.... some cannot ... and this one is one of those.
On the plus side, the drama just started, so he has plenty of chances to show off his acting skills as his character gets more and more complex and deeper. But he better hurry up. It will make the drama a lot better.
ML is actually a good catch. A guy less polished but honest, hard working and dedicated and ah so in love IS THE CATCH OF THE CENTURY...
Unfortunately, FL is a snotty snob city slicker cheabol and is too dumb to see what is right under her nose - but she is starting to get the idea... The doggy scene in ep 4 is the start ...
ML is too nice and rednecky and has a reputation for being a "killer" so nobody is chasing him, but ISNT THERE SOMEONE who would like to check him out after seeing how nicely he treats the FL?.....
I cannot imagine that ALL women in that village are that dumb to miss that cue....
FL needs to get a kick to her snotty snob bu.t and treat ML well.
Same with the young SFL she is super dumb nasty INSECURE. The nephew is an idiot, very immature guy. That chick is too nasty to love anyone. Give her up
So how to make it more popular? Rate individual episodes high. Spread the word. Etc
International fans are not used to excellent dialogue ... but they could remember what it means to talk well and communicate LOL and they could like it. Bc it is really precious and the entire West is LOOKING FOR IT, just in wrong ways. So let's explain to them that they found what they have been looking for.
ML-FL here are equals in their relationship and communicate rather openly and honestly. It is not perfect, there are some hiccups. they are young and their backgrounds come with tons of bs baggage, but they keep improving. They are already a pretty good team and becoming a model pair for gender equality, good relationship skills and communication, and generally, a very profound mature deep long lasting love. ML is already quite exemplary in how he treats her and talks with FL. We are waiting for her to grow up a little more too.
Another great love drama is Idol I, which has NO icky childish anio! lies and overbearing CEO tropes and such sh.t. ML tried to misbehave in his entitled tantrumy old ways, SELF REFLECTED real fast and made a U-turn in 1 episode, cleared of his character flaw LOL
Idol I is a very strong drama about two grown ups, already established in their lives as top not professionals, becoming a strong pair, and it was in top 10 Netflix global for 3 consecutive weeks.
In this drama, ML did the same thing, in about 2 or 3 episodes.. Being a very young, inexperienced Joseon prince dealing with avery young, inexperienced commoner, that is a SUPER FAST AND PROFOUND U-turn and transformation LOL
Top dramas really make that U-turn very profoundly.
Weaker dramas have this U-turn happen later and weaker.
But a total trash drama on wrong premises, like Dynamite Kiss or Can this love be translated, can be popular :( for wrong reasons ....
Anyways, we the audience can promote this drama. It is top notch indeed.
Luckily, other romcom airing now also have solid attempts at teamwork and communication and are progressing - No Tail to Tell, Spring Fever, Positively Yours, also have overall positive messages and warmth and lightness and humor that is the trademark of real kdramas.
She has a lot of strong scenes
Park Geon Il is in The Judge Returns and in First Man
and Choi Jin Hyuk is in Positively Yours
They look similar to me and act in same way too
ML actor needs to quickly start acting better. He has a better script. FL is a decent actor but her script can be a little too .. insecure... but is not too bad... so this drama is definitely doable.
*** This particular pair is actually cute together. I am really getting the vibe of a young pregnant couple and it is VERY cute and endearing. They are really good at it.
So I hope this keeps improving. Ep 1 was sucky, ep 2 and up started getting better and better, so let us keep our fingers crossed.
Gumiho is super convincing in her gnashing teeth and yelling and revenge and arrogance and selfishness as a nasty fox. She is so ignorant, the scene when she cluelessly told her best friend to kill her husband is a wow scene. She HONESTLY thought it was a good idea.
The scene when he feeds her bc her hand is shaking is an amazing scene where she is already melted and behaving like a girly girl spoiled brat and he is so enjoying pampering her and she LOVES it.
The voice over of Gumiho is very very profound and she acted so well her choice.
I wrote about all these scenes before so I thought you saw them.
Any more scenes I need to remind you of that prove excellent acting?
you on the other hand do not sound credible bc you are not describing EXACTLY what you think is bad. So then we cannot have a discussion.
When I said "equal" I meant THAT. **** No matter what their outside rank, they are equal in their relationship. ****
This drama too is a pretty good example of great teamwork and honest communications. They still lie to each other sometimes but it is not sooo bad. I ASSUMED that :) so thank you for reminding me to say it :)
I would not drop this drama! it is very good! The script is amazing.
It is not perfect LOL there is still sexism and FL acts stupid sometimes so that he can save her. But is not as bad as it could have been :)
In Idol I, there is NONE of any of that, and they are equal by rank too.
In No Tail to Tell, it starts unequal like here, she is powerful and he is at her mercy, but then things level up and they start treating each other equally
Spring Fever and Positively Yours are also pretty good rom coms where the relationship starts uneven - a kind redneck dumbo and a snotty snide city slicker cheabol; an insecure office worker and a CEO that get pregnant by chance - but ... believe it or not, they are working it out somehow... They are pretty solid rom coms with positive messages.
I would stay away from Dynamite Kiss and Can this love be translated, bc they are not equal at all and there is no communication and teamwork at all. Those are real flop dramas imo
The ML on this drama is soooo new, he cannot really act... so I wish him to relax and practice some more.
FL is better but not great.
But who cares, right? This is a rom com with all the tropes - the CEO, the insecure poor woman, etc. BUT THE SCRIPT IS DECENT, the CEO is trying to be kind and the loser woman knows she is bsing. THe plot is already moving faster.
I like many of the messages of this drama, it seems positive.
I really appreciate that the CEO is very honest and that the lady is not 100% loser like so many other FLs. This FL is not too bad and seems like is fast becoming better and can be really honest. So ...
It is so cute to see this pregnant couple. They really a great pair of lovebirds. it is very endearing and honestly. S Korea should improve their (globally lowest) birth rates.
FL actress looks like she had plastic surgery with lips and cannot open them properly while talking
They use her for comfort and company, like a nice cozy cushion for themselves. So when their cushy life is taken, they want it back
her lips look like plastic surgery to me, and she barely opens them when speaking and I dislike that
her styling and makeup for Positively Yours is appropriate imo, she is a single and rather poor woman without social life, and she never took care of herself. So yeah she is supposed to look ok but not really kept up
Yeah S Korea has a problem with alcohol and it is sometimes addressed now more openly. I think it is one of the things that leads to globally lowest birth rate, so they are trying to get esp women healthier. One famous actor recently made an interview how nobody calls him out bc he doesnt drink. THis drama is trying to address that forced drinking at social events.
So they are trying... But ... it is hard.. did you notice product placements in dramas now, whiskey, etc heavy western liquior? That is REALLY strong and bad for ya.
I would think soju being bitter is not as bad .. And makgouli does not seem as terrible either