InspectorMegre

Apparently you did not read my posts for this drama, although I asked you to check, and so you completely missed the mark - I praised this drama in some posts.... Seems like ou were blinded by your desire to pursue FURTHER conflict with that person who irritated you. It is good to learn to be more impartial, dont you think?
And when someone bothers us so much, it is good to analyze oneself and figure out WHY we allow that person to push our buttons - do we think we can do that bc there is no consequences? or that person reminds us of something we have or wish to have or are told to hate? Being a human is slippery :)
Each user here has the right to form their own opinions on the art we are watching.
If some user totally annoys you with their opinions, then just block them :) if you cannot handle seeing their posts. The fact that you are annoyed is a red flag :) a great chance to practice Inner Work

I am gonna repeat myself since some ppl haven't noticed- this drama is refreshing bc it is different. Typical kdrama is for women from 1950, who are doormats and passive and clumzy and then magically get saved. Such FL goes from an indirect villain, i.e. ENABLER of evil, to someone on her feet. Like, in Queen's House
This drama is modern, it applies to all working women these days and in fact anyone who does not have the money and power to do whatever they want but has to figure out ways to accomplish what they want :) So this FL is smarter than typical old kdramas because SHE IS ACTIVE, SHE INTENTIONALLY TAKES STEPS TO MOVE ON FORWARD, AND SHE TAKES THE CHANCE WHEN SHE SEES IT
But bc this is a story, and all stories are ultimately about the battle between good and evil, the FL starts rather ignorant AND TAKES THE WRONG PATHS AND CHOICES. And creates a mess.
So, WHY AND HOW she made those choices, and how can she FIX the mess she created, are **** the **** question of this drama.

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So imo this is why this drama is so captivating, bc it applies to all of us ordinary people!!!! WHEN ARE PUSHED INTO THE CORNER. WHEN EVERYTHING WE TRIED DID NOT WORK, WHAT DO WE DO? DO WE RESORT TO CHEATING OR WE TRY TO FIGURE OUT A SOLUTION WE DID NOT SEE BEFORE?
THat is the key question of this drama. It is about normal people, not high level ppl with money or power, etc.

This is not a chaebol story or assassin or powerful person story. this is a story of an ordinary person with limited resources, limited connections, and limited power. The story of most of us :)

That question is also explored in Walking on Thin Ice, where also an easy cop-out decisions are made by TWO people (who eventually form a team) and their bad decisions lead to major chaos and disasters since they sell drugs so there are really gross things happening.
In Graceful Liar, chaos and disasters are less gross but equally significant, ppl are harmed in significant ways, and now we have a team of THREE against Kangs :)

But this drama is really a game where everyone is against everyone else, watching only for their own self interest. So a whole group of ppl making wrong choices and sometimes joining against others. LIFE AS MOST PPL LIVE :)

***** So some of the audience are saying - FL was wronged and she is totally justified to take revenge against everyone. Sure, RealYC and her mother did wrong FL and should be held accountable in some way.
But why drag RealYC's brother into this?
Why drag the future husband and inlaws into this, when they have never even met RealYC? Why crush the heart of the future husband by deceiving him?

So who says that FakeYC is totally fine in treating her fiance as if he were a toy for her perusal? *****

THIS DRAMA BASICALLY HAS THE SAME PLOT AS THE OLD STORY OF PINNOCHIO - do we take the choice to skip "work and school" and do something easy and appealing?
Ha Neul is somewhat equivalent to the Cricket, he is the only voice of sanity of this drama. But Ha Neul is not perfect and fell pray to his own darkness and complacency and did not stop anything on time. If he had said aloud what he was thinking.... then this plot would never happen.
The thinking of FL is her inner Cat and Fox lol tricking her into making wrong choices...

So these are some heavy questions that ALL of us face in our daily lives :) That is why the drama is interesting - HOW AND WHY we make the choices we make...... and once we go down the bad path, how do we come back and fix the mess we created.

I think the ideal solution is to somehow peel off from this bad karma and just move on forward without paying any attention to these people and outschine everyone below, that indirect revenge is the best revenge. In other words, FL becomes the world designer on her own and ... shows up on TV as rich and famous :) No drama LOL But geting there would be a lot of drama :) but a different drama. Some ppl say it is a common plot. I have never seen it in any kdrama and I watched zillions of them.

Very interesting that you missed my posts where I say this is a great drama bc it is different and FL is smarter than usual :) Selective reader Tia :)

Hm I have never seen that plot (applying for a competition or interview etc and climbing up) and I have seen zilions of kdramas. I havent watched dailies but such a sane plot never happens in dailies :) . PErhaps I have not watched mbc dramas :)

I think @mirmirshasha summarizes my sentiment on this drama: "Nothing justifies their selling drugs. I just hope they can get out of this mess safely and alive, even if it means ending up behind bars."

I also add to this: I hope they have deep inner transformation and start a new happy straight-and-narrow life on a clean slate. James and FL have bad histories of bad choices - seems like James killed someone and had no support, and FL stayed so long in a suffocating marriage that turned her into a clinkety monotone robot - and both of them solved their problems by more bad decisions to go down the bad path.... so now....
.... they are in a tar pit in hell and need to get out asap before it is too late.

Yes I agree: I just hope they can get out of this mess safely and alive, even if it means ending up behind bars.

She is a dumb YR actually, enduring that suffering for so long. She lacks self love to ditch the dead weight and find a guy who is worthy

LMAO I had a good laugh, it is a great compliment to call me a good roaster LOL So funny :)

i cannot tell what you are replying to, but seems like you think JP is warm and caring, and I think he isnt. He is politely and distantly warm and caring, which is like being caring to your little sister or old adjuma next doo.

yeah, exactly. If JH can get him off his footing then he never had love for YR. I saw that he acted caring and warm to YR but not enough. Emotionally, it is always about HER giving to him, not vice versa

ok. If I were you, I would think why.

I watched some really good acting dramas and I can tell, this one does not have such amazing acting. It is pretty good most of the time, and for some parts great.

I think also they didnt put the side stories on the screen enough. 2ML and Chaufer love stories are fun and we should see more

Exactly. I agree with you. If she wants revenge against her fake friend, FL should revenge against the fake friend only, and leave her fiance alone bc the fiance does not deserve to be used.

But so many ignorant ppl in the audience think it is legit to use the fiance, his family, her family, etc.

no...

There are better ways to be calculating - like... submitting designs to competitions, contacting fashion houses locally and abroad, etc. FL is not educated nor smart nor confident to think of those things.

It would have been aGREAT drama to see her doing that and then navigating all politics and games of climbing up in the fashion world

Yes.... she was desperate and not thinking. I wonder if police would be able to give her a little monetary compensation for turning in drugs. I doubt it. If she found money, she could have kept some.

So something changed between them, didnt it ,and they got really close. And then laid down so close to each other. They keep on getting closer.
As it progresses, it leads to a romance.
There is already that vibe in there.

If you need a place where you would vent out and dump your frustrations and your trash, THAT IS NOT ME.... leave me alone, I find you harassing bitter nitpicky troll. Stop acting like MDL police and DISAPPEAR FROM MY ZONE.
These posts of yours made me realize you have nothing to say about art or acting or dramas, you just want to enjoy torturing other users.

THIS IS DISCUSSION ABOUT ART PIECES, if you havent realized that yet.

So - we have nothing to talk about. Farawell. GODJZO.

I agree that she is greedy. I disagree that her actions are justified.
I think she is a confused normal person who lost her compass and is now lost, she made a wrong decision adn went the wrong way. and we will watch her make a U-turn somehow

Interesting how you instantly jumped on this post as a sign I was bitching as usual,
and interesting how you missed my other posts.... Interesting.... Dont you think you have a preconceived notion of me and are just slandering me?

To prove it to yourself, search for my posts

they are... that scene with the sofa at the end of ep 5 is leading to a lot more, real fast. If they didnt get caught, that scene would have ended up ON the sofa