InspectorMegre

OK, i understand what you are saying.

In real life, some women must be hitting on those handsome men so imo it is realistic to put that into the plot.
Also, in real life, there must be some women in their life, starting from obviously their mother or orphanage,
coworkers, friends, family, neighbors, the public..
Just like Cherry Magic showed. It seems more realistic

100% agree

More like a very high quality family drama

Very masterfully done, high quality drama, great plot and great acting, well filmed. There is some makjang humor and scenes, esp with the youngest couple, and some higher quality humor and scenes, and some very deep psychological drama and thriller scenes with the oldest, who have past trauma or are going tthrough marital issues.
Overall, the drama is quite humorous and warm and light, yet deep
What is different and refreshing and makes it so and unpredictable and thus so very interesting is great communication between characters, the lines and dialogues range from really funny all the way to very deep and meaningful.

FL is quite smart and communicates well, and ML too... he is a down-to-earth reasonable guy, not a superhero who saves damsel in distress loser FL. He never meddles but helps her and their relationship is quite a good example of gender balance and equality of people.

No crazy town overhyped drama and ridiculous plots. So it is "Easy to watch"

Ppl who are used to bloody revenges and such hype and gory scenes seem to tend to think "not much is happening" - and yeah, nothing ridiculous is happening lmao - the plot keeps on moving naturally, ***so much*** keeps happening as we go deeper and deeper into characters and their growth

So that's why it is interesting, the plot keeps moving, in a very meaningful, organic, natural way, with lots of amazing communication/dialogues, character mistakes, overcoming, and character growth. The script writer is masterful :)
Also the director, camera and production are masterful, the music is so in sync and scenes are fantastic, and actors are really making it look real, acting is great

The first few eps had some cringe. (damsel in distress FL and poker faced ML stale cliche)
After that - cringe factor is ZERO

The more I watch this drama, the more I am impressed
I highly recommend it

and i dont understand what is making her hang onto a guy who is saying NO for 10 years....
what is wrong with her? only an abandoned or abused child would do stuff like that... Is she adopted???? and/or what kind of event with him influenced her that much?
I am very fond of SR :) although she is annoying, she is "real" so it is sad that she is gonna ruin it all...
while TenMinutes taking TenYears is right there lmao But both he and she need to grow up first
I understand TenMinutes... his parents are good loving ppl but at the same time, super spoiled entitled nasty, esp his mother is Nasty

Both SML and SFL are such complex characters and both actors are 10000% making it soooo real.... the acting is phenomenal

I am not sure what went wrong there bc, based on their age, seems like Grandpa and Grandma were raising that son.
And they let him marry that Nasty - but the paradox is, son and Nasty *are* in love and a perfect couple, very happily married to this day

Even before that, I wonder if he was just politely lying to SFL that he had "no space for anyone in his life" - when clearly he was already hitting on FL - and he knew it :) Don't tell me he was just playing around...

SFL's younger brother

Hm who shares grandpa/grandma here???? Please remind us...

If Grandpa and Grandma here become a pair - why not? - sure ML/FL and Uncle/Aunt will be technically stepcousins but - it is all just on paper..... since G & G never had any kids...... so NOBODY IS BLOOD RELATED, as ppl said... it is 2 separate family trees and dating in between the 2 trees

I agree on everything you said,
except that JM is possibly smart lmao I think she is smart like a parasite - smart enough to protect her own as@ and that is why she stays silent and avoids trouble - and not smart for anything beyond that. She is not even smart enough to make sure SH is never left alone.
JM is actually shrewd and quietly hogging resources for herself. She only gives her attention to SH... And she takes from everyone else. She lets BH chase her and is never affectionate to him.

The parasite dumb JM understands very well that being honest with ppl will cause problems and she will be beat up... esp BC SHE CANNOT COMMUNICATE. I have never heard JM has some wise smart lines. She just cannot speak properly. She never said something that changed anyone else's life in this drama... She never responded directly and clearly...

So for those reasons, imo JM is dumb.

she REPEATEDLY keeps the same dumb choices, she proved she is not only not smart, but is MEAN, TOXIC selfish person.
Chairman is like that too - a parasite sitting in his hole and taking action only when something comes too close to the hole - manwhile, 1 m away from the hole, 10000 ppl could be murdered and he doesnt care.... - and he and JM are similar in some ways. ** They are slimy *** SR too. ***

Calling JM and Chairman "great strategists" .... yeah they are, for slimy politics. But not for real. Their "strategies" are super toxic and ineffective for long run.
DumbMi reminds me of Grandma from Recipe for love. ... she strokes ppl's egos to be friendly, she sides in crime with her "friends" to stay friends, and she always sweeps things under the rug and never ever makes moves forward.
IT IS A SEXIST PORTRAYAL of very week immature women.

JH is a very complex character. It is too bad the actor is so bad.
JH has a decent side - he told HY just days ago that he despises her and wants nothing to do with her. He is just mentioning he is her son to BH/JM to harass them.

BUT THEN with a couple of "right" sentences that caught his attention, HY got to JH and made him side with her.
Just like SR sided with BH after he said a couple of "right" sentences.

I think JH can come back but someone has to talk to him. So far nobody is capable of talking to him!!!! they give him lessons - dont do that, it is reckless; or threaten him - if you touch my woman i will beat you up - or reject him - I am in love with BH.

BUT NOBODY EVER SAID WHAT BH SAID TO SR - the truth - hey HY is using you and as soon as you are used, she will throw you out and even kill you.
SOMEONE has to say this to JH in a way that he will hear it.
And nobody is..... they just left him alone. This is not smart bc then he is left alone to keep sinking deeper into sh.t and maybe never come back. He is already borderline, he is already a criminal ready for jail. And yeah it will not be a disaster if he disappears forever.

JH has crossed the line too many times and he might just walk off the cliff in this psychotic state - and take other ppl with him - AND NOBODY IS PREVENTING THAT
That is very rotten

So I am back. So what you said is exactly what is wrong - seems like you are a male, so you like many women chasing one guy - and that is how it works in real life.
That is very rotten sexist.
So immature women rebel by creating these fantasies where women can call the shots.
Mature women fight the battle where it matters :) The first thing is PAY AT WORK and the TITLES, POWER, AND OVERALL ASSETS :)

And YES dramas exploit the immature women - bc they are a majority - and makes these delulu romantic stories that cater to immature women's fantasies and PROMOTES SEXISM

and - that is one of the rare faults of kdramas... so .. I watch them only when I close my eyes to that... and I dont watch kdramas that have too much of that sexism and delulu fantasies

And YES this drama is one of those dramas... it is just made in a more fun way and there is a little bit more progress, but yes it is the same cliche, I agree.

The bad dramas have FL who is super loser, very dumb, naive, weak, poor, etc lies, runs away, etc - like Dynamite Kiss and Our Universe..
Recently dramas got into women who are at least successful at work but total morons in private life - like Practical Guide to Love.
THEN the ML is like this superhero superman who takes care of FL and keeps bailing her out of trouble.

VERY RARE DRAMAS SHOW EQUALITY AND GREAT HONEST COMMUNICATION AND TEAMWORK, like .. Positively Yours, My Dearest Nemesis, etc. - and many ppl in the audience think those dramas are boring. Positively Yours is one of the top healthy dramas, so realistic, and so positive. A fantastic role model for successful long term relationships and marriage.
Currently airing daily Our Happy Days has FL/ML pair like that - very very green flag, both. Very gender balanced and egalitarian relationship, very HEALTHY relationship.

Much audience loves to watch sick toxic relationships lmao So 50, 000 ppl are watching Perfect Crown and another 50,000 Pursuit of Jade etc.

This drama at least doesnt have gender imbalance and toxicity. FL is competent at work and also in her personal life - SHE COMMUNICATES CLEARLY with him, and he too with her. So at least all that cliche bs of anio! and lying "to save stress to someone" - none of that is here. SO THAT'S GREAT.

Also, ML here is caring, but not meddling into her life. He is respectful to her boundaries and personal space (even in the art museum, he told her what he wanted and then gave her about 1 minute pause and looking at her to get her YES PROCEED before he proceeded.) ML is a great green flag here. He is equal to her in everything but the job title and professional experience.

So this drama is not a masterpiece by any means, but is a fun and a slightly different rom com.
Also, at least this rom com has some great acting. ML is a master comedian lmao and also great in acting a "nice guy". Also, ML is written as a green flag in a new, refreshing way, he is a more realistic guy, GETTING CLOSER TO SOMEONE FROM REAL LIFE.
But yeah not enough bc he is chasing FL so hard, it is unrealistic. It would be super rare and maybe non-existent these days in real life lmao

I am not impressed with FL actress much. Some scenes of her talking nicely with ML are expressive, but mostly, she is just poker faced and to me that is boring.
Luckily, he is expressive, so bouncing off it creates some comedic effect.

So even a harsher critic can get something out of this drama. It does have some content.
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As for you - imo your very earlier comments are extremely sexist comments of a very "old school" male. There is a lot of confusion what a man is and what he does. I am not going to comment on any of that bc the topics you mentioned are TMI.

So bye now, I dont have time for this now.

I was going to sleep last night so I forgot to mention -
JM IS ALWAYS DOING THE SAME THING -
she didnt tell BH about his dad... then about JH's birth secret ..... "bc it would upset him"
So he lived in total ignorance and got beat up etc - JM created a very dangerous situation for him, out of her COWARDICE AND SLIMINESS AND DUMBNESS

She NEVER spoke properly with SR - JM just keeps repeating like a broken record "it was misunderstanding" ... wow dumb

JM LACKS ABILITY TO COMMUNICATE
AND SHE COVERS IT UP BY STAYING SILENT AND LETTING THE SLEEPING DOGS LIE

- meanwhile, people are getting hurt bc JM did not inform them and did not speak with them

and that entire time she is getting away with it bc "she is considerate" - and a good strategist lmao

She is just someone who HAS A STRATEGY TO NEVER DIRECTLY AND PROPERLY SPEAK UP,

JM ALWAYS SWEEPS THINGS UNDER THE RUG under the slimy excuse that she doesnt want to bother anyone

BC SHE IS DUMB AND SOCIALLY BRAINWASHED TO HAVE THESE SLIMY EXCUSES - made by similar people who just like to sweep things under the rug bc it is too much for them to handle - bc they are dumb and/or mean

AND BC WOMEN HAVE TO KEEP THEIR MOUTH SHUT. JM IS AN EPITOME OF SEXISM .

This is a societal disease, the sociopathic tendency to always sweep things under the rug for the sake of immediate convenience
IT IS ENABLING TOXICITY
and that's why families and society are so messed up

yes there is a slight difference WHC is more ... hm... gloomy and snotty
but it is the same "spaced out face"
the same vibe of someone who is "floating in outer space", is not present, and wishes not to be there

yes he is innocent here but he is - to some degree - "innocent" in WHC

Anyways, there WAS just too much similarity. So I am glad he is moving into more acting. The scene ML calling his mom was very good acting

So I hope it continues

I need to get to sleep so I have to be brief.
YES it is irritating to me that FL does not put much effort and ML is killing himself. Sure.

Thats why 2? last eps were much better bc she finally talked with him and showed she liked him

LOVE ALWAYS STARTS FROM ZERO - in this case, he fell first

this is a little bit trickier ... bc she is a single woman and a high level executive so she has to be careful

But yeah, I agree with you, this is too common, and this is for immature women, deluly fantasy that a woman does not have to do ANYTHING and this marvelous guy - and another and another!!!! sooo many marvelous guys !!!! - will just fall into her lap and serve her like a slave FOREVER

And now to be fair - why do women want to watch that? bc in real life, the situation is REVERSE :( and actually a lot worse, since men in the West are totally uncomittable or gay or already married, ..... and so many women hit on one guy, married or not!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and side kicks are common.... . ...

Plus add to that the plastic and food that makes men have less testosterone and less drive ... so ...

so women feel abandoned and powerless and then they fantasize

AND ACT TOO :) the s.x tourism is very popular :) Women go to Africa, Jamaica, islands, Balkans / Mediterranian, etc - fun tourist places - and they grab some boy toy. And literally PAY for it. Those guys make a living from tourists. They are called seagulls. Inland, they are called sparrows.
And sometimes these women bring home a husband too. There is NOTHING more charming than a poor guy trying to immigrate ... There are sooo many fishing online on social media too ....

I heard S Korea is a popular destination to look for oppas - and ... I guess.... get disappointed lmao Kdrama oppas that dutifully slave away for their flawed chick might be ... a fantasy :) I heard lmao

Ah the drama Still Shining was the ... worst .... nice oppa_ slaving away to an idiot

The main point of my argument is not that she is a strategist but that there is a middle solution between turning JH to police and turning a blind eye to his crimes

Well that is debatable :)

I agree with you that she IS a strategist - a very dumb one - - she just avoids dealing with anything, and sweeps it under the rug to not upset people :)

and yeah that brings her brownie points BECAUSE she never upset anyone ...
but on the other hand, she never ACCOMPLISHED anything :) and actually she has caused major harm all along :)

Chairman Ma is a strategist too :) a greedy one - he just watches what drops his stock and ignores anything that doesnt affect the stock lmao

EVERYONE LIVING ON THIS PLANET IS SOME KIND OF STRATEGIST, EVEN SLOTHS HAVE A STRATEGY TO MOVE SLOWLY lmao

Ok I think I understand what you are saying.
I replied to that in my earlier post that describes sexism in kdramas, and catering to the delulu fantasies of immature female audience.

So yeah, recently we saw super flawed females having wonderful guys at their total disposal - Dynamite kiss, Our Universe, Practical Guide to Love, Boyfriend on Demand, etc are all about AT LEAST TWO men kissing as@ of one very flawed and unrully woman-child.

So yeah, kdramas got worse this year, showing women who are two-timing, stringing two guys, lying, sneaking around, etc.
It is just taking advantage of the weakness of the audience.
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As for love triangles: sometimes they have a place. I mentioned Mr. Plankton, Discovery of Love, etc. where the main plot is the triangle and it makes sense.

Love triangles and many-angles are UNAVOIDABLE in real life, bc EVERYONE HAS A HISTORY, and practically everyone has someone wanting them now :)

So a triangle - or more - is totally to be expected in real life - and so why not in a drama... But as you said, how they portray ML as this "doting superhero" is too cliche and stale...

In this drama, the triangle is ok. A successful, smart, beautiful, high-level woman like this FL is certainly going to have many guys interested in her, and some exes :)
And ML too... his exes are still chasing him lmao
He is done with his exes but he still allowed his ex to climb on him and kiss in the stairway... THEN he pushed her away.
so if FL allowed SML to touch her, that's the same thing... plus, SML is her boss .
BUT FL pushed SML away.
I never ever saw FL look favorably on SML.

In fact, I thought the ML was too lose with his exes... to familiar... to .. not having proper boundaries. He is still FRIENDS with that staircase psycho!!!! and spends time talking with her, having coffee!!!!!

In fact, I thought FL was totally done with her ex, SML. She keeps running away from him and being cold and pushing him.

But - let's see what we hvent seen yet - what files and why was FL trying to delete? she seems to be protecting SML

Yeah the FL/ML relationship is not equal. He is chasing her and she likes him but is cold and refusing him. That is not cool. But .... she is his boss so... what else can she do??? They ARE NOT equal. She will have to weigh pros and cons and be very sure of her feelings and their relationship before she can even think of making a move on him.
She already recklessly jumped on him in the art studio so now their relationship is a mess... and she now has to be super careful and somehow fix the situation

SR got what BH was saying.... SR is self serving selfish and smart about her safety lmao - and she changed her behavior instantly, and told him what she was refusing to tell him.

So that is the button to push to get SR to use her brain - TELL HER SOMETHING THAT HELPS HER SELF SERVE lmao

You havent replied to what I said...
So I have no idea if you even understood what I was saying..

My main point is that you see it as black-white - either JH is turned to police OR he is "strategically forgiven and left alone" - but how about the middle way... ???

So I will recap it once again in different words.
JM is definitely a very kind family person, and she as a good politician, and she had "closure time" and established that JH and SH had a connection. That will certainly help ONE DAY IN THE FUTURE. i wrote about that.

And how about RIGHT NOW? At this point, right now, JH is on the lose and dangerous to JM, BH, etc etc - and to himself. He is a deluly psychotic criminal living in a bubble of his "truths." He is even worse than when he kidnapped JM. He now thinks she loves him so much to spend the night with him, and he sided with HY, and is still planning to take JM.
**** JH right now could do something totally stupid and be responsible for it for the rest of his life. ****

And he is just about to get into it, since HY WAS THE FIRST ONE TO REACH HIM, and he is siding with her.
IF he does what she asked him, he will turn himself into a criminal and go to jail one day, or at least have a heavy bad karma.

At this point right now, JH needs help to just STAY SANE.
He needs someone to talk to and get himself back into the mentally sane zone.

And JM is just leaving him alone, letting him jump off the cliff, she is essentially dumping him for the sake of her convenience.

If she is indeed "strategizing" as you say, then she is majorly CRUEL AND CARELESS towards JH and herself AND BH and all their families.

The whole "community" needs to find a way to reach out to, "talk to" JH and help him turn towards healing.

That requires some smarts and a lot of effort, which none of them are showing.

BH demonstrated what I am talking about - he just told SR literally 2-3 sentences and got her to clear her mind and refocus and get back on track.

JH will be a tougher case.
At this point, it would be helpful to hear that BH is adopted too. I am not sure why Lawyer Mom is not telling it. Are they going to keep it a secret from BH forever?? THat family needs to clean up...

Also, I cannot stand JM's bs - "she is doing it for the sake of SR." Really... ? JM has done nothing to really help SR. Patetically provoking SR with stupid sentences "It is just a misunderstanding" is NOT helping SR..... Letting JH lose and free to do criminal activitie is NOT helping SR...

Sure in the very long run, connection with SH might lead to JH's redemption arc, but ... JH could do something really stupid right NOW and destroy all chances of healing. THAT is the issue right now.

Anyways, this discussion is not going anywhere if you are not going to reply to what I wrote but you just repeat what you said.

"you maybe enjoy watching fl have ml and sml chasing after her"

NO I DO NOT, Specifically, NOT.
That is a basic plot of sexism, where the woman just uses guys to take care of her and never has to grow up

Sometimes it can be useful and even funny, like in Mr Plankton lmao or in Discovery of Love, where it is a really profound topic
but in most dramas, it is sheer DELULU like... Dynamite Kiss, Our Universe, Practical Guide to Love, etc - those are really stupid dumb awful draggy useless BORING love triangles used to just fill the time and show some more cute guys.

You know, I think ChatGPT totally changed your post. Honestly. What ChatGPT wrote is so different than what you wrote...

So ... perhaps - USE GRAMMARLY? to just correct your grammar. Then maybe I can understand better.
bc as is written, the English is too chopped up and I really dont get what you are saying.

Bc in your original post, you said you often dont agree with my reviews - but I dont understand how we differ...?

You wrote this: "This double standard in kdrama is frustrating for me, and it's always that they make ml the prize for fl after her bad past relationship, and they also make two great men fight for her." etc etc - basically how FL is not invested in ML and just uses him.

YES THAT IS THE SEXISM I WROTE ABOUT IN MY REPLY ABOVE, reply to chatgpt version of your post. That is the one of the rare faults of kdramas.

But women are the majority of drama audience, and dramas make a living from the audience, so ... it is easy ti exploit the weakness of the audience and to push women further into sexism. Women themselves are doing this to themselves by liking dramas with such plots.