Hey crude rude troll @vanka - instead of personally insulting me, WHY DONT YOU BLOCK ME. I will have to block you if you dont block me asap. Be warned, I give you a few minutes to do so. FAREWELL.
What's Wrong with Secretary Kim is one of my fav dramas. II watched one where she is a spy pretending to be a highschooler - that was meh..... I tried Marriage Contract and disliked it and dropped.
Seems like her old dramas were worth something, but new ones are goners for me. I dropped out of Confidence Queen asap. ANd this one too.
SHE WAS HONESTLY SO BEAUTIFUL AND WAS SUCH A GOOD ACTRESS. i've watched two of her dramas and she was amazing,…
Thanks! I watched Park's marriage contract, and I loved it, and My roomate is a Gumiho is one of my fav dramas and I and did not recognize the ML there LOL he was great indeed! I remember him clearly from Growing Season, one of my fav dramas. I will watch The Mighnight Romance in Hangwon then. I will not watch Squid Games. For some reason, I suspect Hollywood and I am staying out of that drama LOL
I am NEVER AGAIN watching any drama with a malnourished looking FL or plasticized ppl. I made a wow
I am switched to dailies to see real people LOL I am watching a rather cheesy daily Pearl in Red precisely bc it is super Korean local and no plastic ppl anywhere. The FL is a terrible actress and so I fast forward through all scenes of crying and bs, and I watch the ML actor - a middle aged man who is AMAZING, 100% PERFECT in his role, I met ppl just like him :)
I think the audience is guilty of demanding "pretty people" - I see it in Undercover Miss Hong, ppl are swooning for Albert, or in My Beloved Thief, ppl swooning over a violent villain. Luckily Albert actor is a great actor, and that villain was all right for that role too but ... the way the audience went ONLY after their looks was ... insane. Just insane.
I want to see real people and real faces AND GOOD ACTING rather than a stationary pretty decorative item on the screen - a decorative item that happens to be a live human.
Like ML actor in kdrama Lucifer is one of the best actors out there but was not fancy by any means. His look, his clothes, nothing. But his role is extremely memorable.
Ah the BL role could explain why SML is so super thin. Male gay in the USA love to be super thin, their idea of…
Well, many Chinese in the USA and Europe that I have met are still looking too skinny and sickly, as "urban" dwellers ... But not Koreans. For some reason, Koreans typically look healthy.
As for your cousin... He has to find a way, or else ruin his health... If I were him, I would find a niche or quit acting in such media.
In kdramas... there are dailies where women ARE allowed to be FL with some meat on. So you can run into an excellent actress like FL in dailies First Man and Queen's House .... bc she looks like a real woman. She is not fat, she is just not malnourished. She looks like a healthy and good looking attractive woman. Nice legs :) She is an amazing actress and her dailies are near the quality of the regular dramas. And I am thinking - she has NO REASON to move into the regular short dramas bc... it is too much stress, too much health sacrifice, and so why bother, she is already the grand diva of dailies, has a stable job and fame, and gets to keep her health. She is a TOTAL WINNER.... and we the audience are lucky to have 30 mins of her every day. It is an EXCELLENT actress.
Another choice is to be a side actress and keep your health. Why do ppl want to become the lead - is it more money? But it means selling your body to the devil, then... no thanks but no thanks!
Another choice is to be a stand up comedian. I saw one, she was quite husky looking and perhaps overweight.
Practically all FLs in recent "regular" dramas that I have seen were not attractive, they were too skinny. Some got away bc they made their character funny, like PHS in Undercover Miss Hong, and some were terribly alarming and ugly and scary, there are too many to list here.
Looks like this writer has a fetish for love triangle l. All her previuos dramas had love triangle and all of…
That is the definition of insanity - repeating behaviors that lead to failure...
THE WRITER IS NOT ALONE IN THIS INSANITY... .. this script writer cannot do this UNLESS SOMEONE WANTS TO FILM SUCH DRAMA - so why do those "producers" or whoever they are, why are they buying the script that flopped so many times???? THAT is ,my question...
so there must be something about this that works...... I do not know for sure how it works, but this is my educated guess: Probably it is super cheap production and probably at the end, they make SOME money, easy way. Probably they just slapped a drama together in like 2 weeks LOL and then rake in the money and it is good enough for them. That is what this seems like
SHE WAS HONESTLY SO BEAUTIFUL AND WAS SUCH A GOOD ACTRESS. i've watched two of her dramas and she was amazing,…
That is sad that she ruined her health to have official lead roles... and then got official lead roles where SHE CANNOT ACT bc of her plastic surgery and weight loss. It is like wasting her entire life to actually regress instead of going forward... and ... seems like it is IRREVERSIBLE. It is TRAGIC!!!!!! truly tragic!!!!! I hope it can be somehow fixed. If not.. then it seems the worst kind of hell....
and so my question is - WHO ARE THE MONSTERS WHO REQUIRE THAT FROM ACTORS???? and why is the public so dumb to buy it as "beautiful"?
You bet I will never ever again watch anything with this FL actress. Absolutely NOT bc it is a sure flop.
I am sorry to miss the ML actor who is sooo good but really I cannot risk wasting time watching this FL.
Also, I got to the same conclusion about FL actress in Siren's kiss - she too is a plasticized robot of 34 kg for 165cm, i.e BMI of 12 and 18 is the mininum for health.
And ML in Siren's kiss is great - this is the first time I "met" him and I am impressed - but I am not gonna watch that drama, I am gonna watch his older dramas.
Sorry but life is short, cannot waste time watching ill people committing a slow suicide by eating disorders and plastic surgery robot look
Ah the BL role could explain why SML is so super thin. Male gay in the USA love to be super thin, their idea of…
I am not sure what you are referrring to? Koreans or male gay ppl?
I personally met many S Koreans and they are NOT super thin. They are very nice looking and in very good shape. Some are even on the huskier side but not fat by any means, just muscular. All Koreans I ever met have nice bodies. I met them in NYC, LA and Hawaii. I have never been to Korea.
Male Gay ppl in the USA like to be super thin, many told me that personally. Male gay idea of "thin" is a lot thinner than straight idea of "thin". I have met so many male gay in San Francisco, they were so thin, their legs look like sticks. I really hope they get healthier beauty standards....
Pa Gun Seong Jun changed his fate with hers and went to die in her place.
I thought he just sent her back and was just sitting there for a chat. That made sense to me. The river was calm and he WOULD have crossed already, so I did not think he was waiting to cross. If the ending is like you said, then it is crappy and meaningless and ruined the drama for me.
Oh the same faith got the FL in Our Universe - that one is super super anorexic looking and cannot act, also plastic surgery and dieting, ppl wrote.... So yes what is the point of "sculpting" the actor to the point they cannot act
And also - it is NOT beautiful. I rather see a sexy curvey woman full of energy.
Supposedly FL in Siren's kiss is frail etc bc she takes drugs and alcohol - so ok we are sure this "frail" character is a very ill person, mentally and physically - so the weight loss properly advertises ILLNESS
but how about those other roles with 37 kg 165cm (BMI 13) adult female actress where she is supposedly some attractive chick... ??? NO IT IS NOT ATTRACTIVE, IT IS UGLY. And it is a total abuse of drama influence to advertise excess weight loss as something desirable WHO ARE THE MONSTERS WHO TORTURE ACTORS AND ACTRESSES TO THESE IMPOSSIBLE WEIGHT STANDARDS?
AND MOST DEFINITELY IT IS NOT SEXY bc a starved person lacks energy
What is sexy is exuding good health - radiance , glow, vibrancy, movement, energy, stamina, robustness, .... In official medical terms, BMI of 18-25, plus being in shape and fit.
DO YOU READ????? Of course this is 12 ep drama. I was saying it is written as if were 20 episodes.
So get off your high horse and READ before you open your mouth to criticize just for the fun of nitpicking. You are wasting everyone's time. I have no time to respond to this kind of dumb uninformed posts of ppl who have not read what I wrote. You wrote TWO such posts. Please stop bothering me.
Funny how you disqualy rating the show low because people don't like it when that's the whole point of rating...…
You got it totally wrong. Why don't you **** READ FIRST **** what I wrote??? WHY ARE YOU WASTING MY TIME? PLEASE STOP WASTING EVERYONE'S TIME
MY FIRST SENTENCE STATED: THERE IS AN ORGANIZED GROUP RALLYING PEOPLE TO RATE LOW AND DROP. AND THAT IS WRONG SOMEONE HERE - jinchan or something like that? was forcing me to rate the drama lower and lobbying people to write low ratings THAT IS WRONG As for rating... I rate ML and Woo Ju as 10 and the others too and then some other things I rate low.
AND I DO NOT WANT EVER TO SEE GANGS OF TROLLS TRYING TO KILL A DRAMA all these fake empty accounts that KEEP POSTING frequently - drop the drama, this is bad, etc
People should post what they want and what they think sure but there is a way to do that and there has to be a way to be constructive and point out what exactly is wrong (and possibly what would fix it) and not post that non-stop
I literally saw posts very close to each other from the same user, complaining and asking others to drop the drama , and it was like that for at least several users I saw
THAT IS ABUSE
and perhaps you are a part of it too. The fact that i praised one post of yours does not mean that I uncondionally approve anything you write. Just now, I caught you wring like 4-5 total trash posts to me, so I consider you a pest at this point.
SO... READ BEFORE YOU WRITE ANYTHING AND STOP NITPICKING FOR THE SAKE OF NITPICKING AND SHOWING OFF
bc you are showing off, I consider you an amateur and I do not want to hear again from you. You have used up the tolerance and are wasting my time. FAREWELL
I suggest to add more SPACE in your writing so that it is more easily visible. I almost missed it bc it was so packed :) but by coincidence, I copied it in when I copied his post, and then I finally really read it and I was like WOW THIS IS IT.
SO make sure that what you are saying is easily readable :)
I think these two are the best review I have seen so far: By DerrickBonyourbike: "The FL is one of the most wishy-washy nothings of a character I've ever seen. The ML has lost all his assertiveness and has become beyond pathetic. He only exists to fawn over the FL. The SML has tons of screentime, but has the personality of wood."
and response by Taino: " I don't like love triangles, but like other tropes and cliches, some stories allow them
and they can even serve some purpose like helping the main characters realize that they like each other through jealousy, character development, plot device and more, but more times than what it needs to be, it is used to just introduce angst to the story and drag the whole main couple getting together.
I can see how a love triangle can work towards character development in this one, since FL needs to learn how to stop being a pushover and also needs to learn what true love is versus a 7 year old crush and just following the expectations of what she called herself a perfect guy at the cost of hurting the one that really cares for her and herself by giving away her soul, since she looks happy on the outside when interacting with SML, but cannot even be herself because she doesn't feel comfortable with the intruder. All this to say that I understand the love triangle, but
*****what I don't understand is why they made the love triangle here to almost become the main plot and last for so long in a story with an actual plot and where the FL's character development should be showing improvement by now, which means that the love triangle ultimately has failed bringing the main couple together, developing FL or adding anything at all to the plot." ***** end of quote
My comment: Imo SML has personality worse than wood.... Imo SML has personality of ... a slave driver. He keeps doing whatever HE wants and ignores all signs of discrepancy with what HE wants.
Who are love triangles for exactly? I've never seen anyone say something positive about them, but writers keep…
Love triangles are for some super immature women who think they can be so mean, nasty, fat, skinny, insecure, ugly, lazy, stupid, tired, poor, scared, etc etc etc - fill in AS MANY negative attributes you can think of - AND then you get two awesome guys to fight for you - and you can string them, reject them,etc AND THEY WILL ALWAYS COME BACK AND THINK ONLY OF YOU AND CATER TO YOU. That my dear is delulu fantasy of someone who is brain dead and needs to get out and live their life. -
Who are love triangles for exactly? I've never seen anyone say something positive about them, but writers keep…
I dont think she has personality of wood. I think she has a personality of a parasite. She is leeching off everyone - for attention, babysitting, money, fame, excitement, etc
When the ML said to FL that everytime she puts that baby into a dangerous situation. She always said we are a…
yes exactly ML is the single parent of that baby. FL has no emotional / heart connection to the baby at all, does not even notice his needs, she is just ... oblivious to anything but herself, for most part, just a big flakey ... dependent
SHE WAS HONESTLY SO BEAUTIFUL AND WAS SUCH A GOOD ACTRESS. i've watched two of her dramas and she was amazing,…
what do you mean "proper lead roles"? Crushology 101 was a total flop. The Witch was a flop too. Here too, she is below par and ppl complain. HOW LONG CAN SHE KEEP GOING LIKE THIS?? She is technically FL but she is really isnt, she is having these FL roles that RUIN HER CAREER it's time for a wake up call
Seems like her old dramas were worth something, but new ones are goners for me. I dropped out of Confidence Queen asap. ANd this one too.
I remember him clearly from Growing Season, one of my fav dramas.
I will watch The Mighnight Romance in Hangwon then. I will not watch Squid Games. For some reason, I suspect Hollywood and I am staying out of that drama LOL
I am NEVER AGAIN watching any drama with a malnourished looking FL or plasticized ppl. I made a wow
I am switched to dailies to see real people LOL I am watching a rather cheesy daily Pearl in Red precisely bc it is super Korean local and no plastic ppl anywhere. The FL is a terrible actress and so I fast forward through all scenes of crying and bs, and I watch the ML actor - a middle aged man who is AMAZING, 100% PERFECT in his role, I met ppl just like him :)
I think the audience is guilty of demanding "pretty people" - I see it in Undercover Miss Hong, ppl are swooning for Albert, or in My Beloved Thief, ppl swooning over a violent villain.
Luckily Albert actor is a great actor, and that villain was all right for that role too but ... the way the audience went ONLY after their looks was ... insane. Just insane.
I want to see real people and real faces AND GOOD ACTING rather than a stationary pretty decorative item on the screen - a decorative item that happens to be a live human.
Like ML actor in kdrama Lucifer is one of the best actors out there but was not fancy by any means. His look, his clothes, nothing. But his role is extremely memorable.
But not Koreans. For some reason, Koreans typically look healthy.
As for your cousin... He has to find a way, or else ruin his health... If I were him, I would find a niche or quit acting in such media.
In kdramas... there are dailies where women ARE allowed to be FL with some meat on. So you can run into an excellent actress like FL in dailies First Man and Queen's House .... bc she looks like a real woman. She is not fat, she is just not malnourished. She looks like a healthy and good looking attractive woman. Nice legs :) She is an amazing actress and her dailies are near the quality of the regular dramas. And I am thinking - she has NO REASON to move into the regular short dramas bc... it is too much stress, too much health sacrifice, and so why bother, she is already the grand diva of dailies, has a stable job and fame, and gets to keep her health. She is a TOTAL WINNER.... and we the audience are lucky to have 30 mins of her every day. It is an EXCELLENT actress.
Another choice is to be a side actress and keep your health.
Why do ppl want to become the lead - is it more money? But it means selling your body to the devil, then... no thanks but no thanks!
Another choice is to be a stand up comedian. I saw one, she was quite husky looking and perhaps overweight.
Practically all FLs in recent "regular" dramas that I have seen were not attractive, they were too skinny. Some got away bc they made their character funny, like PHS in Undercover Miss Hong, and some were terribly alarming and ugly and scary, there are too many to list here.
THE WRITER IS NOT ALONE IN THIS INSANITY... .. this script writer cannot do this UNLESS SOMEONE WANTS TO FILM SUCH DRAMA - so why do those "producers" or whoever they are, why are they buying the script that flopped so many times???? THAT is ,my question...
so there must be something about this that works......
I do not know for sure how it works, but this is my educated guess:
Probably it is super cheap production and probably at the end, they make SOME money, easy way. Probably they just slapped a drama together in like 2 weeks LOL and then rake in the money and it is good enough for them. That is what this seems like
It is TRAGIC!!!!!! truly tragic!!!!! I hope it can be somehow fixed. If not.. then it seems the worst kind of hell....
and so my question is - WHO ARE THE MONSTERS WHO REQUIRE THAT FROM ACTORS???? and why is the public so dumb to buy it as "beautiful"?
You bet I will never ever again watch anything with this FL actress. Absolutely NOT bc it is a sure flop.
I am sorry to miss the ML actor who is sooo good but really I cannot risk wasting time watching this FL.
Also, I got to the same conclusion about FL actress in Siren's kiss - she too is a plasticized robot of 34 kg for 165cm, i.e BMI of 12 and 18 is the mininum for health.
And ML in Siren's kiss is great - this is the first time I "met" him and I am impressed - but I am not gonna watch that drama, I am gonna watch his older dramas.
Sorry but life is short, cannot waste time watching ill people committing a slow suicide by eating disorders and plastic surgery robot look
Gotta get out and exercise now :) Bye :)
I personally met many S Koreans and they are NOT super thin. They are very nice looking and in very good shape. Some are even on the huskier side but not fat by any means, just muscular. All Koreans I ever met have nice bodies. I met them in NYC, LA and Hawaii. I have never been to Korea.
Male Gay ppl in the USA like to be super thin, many told me that personally. Male gay idea of "thin" is a lot thinner than straight idea of "thin". I have met so many male gay in San Francisco, they were so thin, their legs look like sticks. I really hope they get healthier beauty standards....
If the ending is like you said, then it is crappy and meaningless and ruined the drama for me.
And also - it is NOT beautiful. I rather see a sexy curvey woman full of energy.
Supposedly FL in Siren's kiss is frail etc bc she takes drugs and alcohol - so ok we are sure this "frail" character is a very ill person, mentally and physically - so the weight loss properly advertises ILLNESS
but how about those other roles with 37 kg 165cm (BMI 13) adult female actress where she is supposedly some attractive chick... ??? NO IT IS NOT ATTRACTIVE, IT IS UGLY. And it is a total abuse of drama influence to advertise excess weight loss as something desirable
WHO ARE THE MONSTERS WHO TORTURE ACTORS AND ACTRESSES TO THESE IMPOSSIBLE WEIGHT STANDARDS?
AND MOST DEFINITELY IT IS NOT SEXY bc a starved person lacks energy
What is sexy is exuding good health - radiance , glow, vibrancy, movement, energy, stamina, robustness, ....
In official medical terms, BMI of 18-25, plus being in shape and fit.
So get off your high horse and READ before you open your mouth to criticize just for the fun of nitpicking. You are wasting everyone's time. I have no time to respond to this kind of dumb uninformed posts of ppl who have not read what I wrote. You wrote TWO such posts. Please stop bothering me.
MY FIRST SENTENCE STATED: THERE IS AN ORGANIZED GROUP RALLYING PEOPLE TO RATE LOW AND DROP.
AND THAT IS WRONG
SOMEONE HERE - jinchan or something like that? was forcing me to rate the drama lower and lobbying people to write low ratings
THAT IS WRONG
As for rating... I rate ML and Woo Ju as 10 and the others too and then some other things I rate low.
AND I DO NOT WANT EVER TO SEE GANGS OF TROLLS TRYING TO KILL A DRAMA
all these fake empty accounts that KEEP POSTING frequently - drop the drama, this is bad, etc
People should post what they want and what they think sure
but there is a way to do that
and there has to be a way to be constructive and point out what exactly is wrong (and possibly what would fix it)
and not post that non-stop
I literally saw posts very close to each other from the same user, complaining and asking others to drop the drama , and it was like that for at least several users I saw
THAT IS ABUSE
and perhaps you are a part of it too.
The fact that i praised one post of yours does not mean that I uncondionally approve anything you write. Just now, I caught you wring like 4-5 total trash posts to me, so I consider you a pest at this point.
SO... READ BEFORE YOU WRITE ANYTHING
AND STOP NITPICKING FOR THE SAKE OF NITPICKING AND SHOWING OFF
bc you are showing off, I consider you an amateur and I do not want to hear again from you. You have used up the tolerance and are wasting my time. FAREWELL
I suggest to add more SPACE in your writing so that it is more easily visible. I almost missed it bc it was so packed :) but by coincidence, I copied it in when I copied his post, and then I finally really read it and I was like WOW THIS IS IT.
SO make sure that what you are saying is easily readable :)
That plot is total crap LOL
By DerrickBonyourbike:
"The FL is one of the most wishy-washy nothings of a character I've ever seen. The ML has lost all his assertiveness and has become beyond pathetic. He only exists to fawn over the FL. The SML has tons of screentime, but has the personality of wood."
and response by Taino:
" I don't like love triangles, but like other tropes and cliches, some stories allow them
and they can even serve some purpose like helping the main characters realize that they like each other through jealousy, character development, plot device and more, but more times than what it needs to be, it is used to just introduce angst to the story and drag the whole main couple getting together.
I can see how a love triangle can work towards character development in this one, since FL needs to learn how to stop being a pushover and also needs to learn what true love is versus a 7 year old crush and just following the expectations of what she called herself a perfect guy at the cost of hurting the one that really cares for her and herself by giving away her soul, since she looks happy on the outside when interacting with SML, but cannot even be herself because she doesn't feel comfortable with the intruder.
All this to say that I understand the love triangle, but
*****what I don't understand is why they made the love triangle here to almost become the main plot and last for so long in a story with an actual plot
and where the FL's character development should be showing improvement by now,
which means that the love triangle ultimately has failed bringing the main couple together, developing FL or adding anything at all to the plot." ***** end of quote
My comment: Imo SML has personality worse than wood.... Imo SML has personality of ... a slave driver. He keeps doing whatever HE wants and ignores all signs of discrepancy with what HE wants.
That my dear is delulu fantasy of someone who is brain dead and needs to get out and live their life. -
FL has no emotional / heart connection to the baby at all, does not even notice his needs, she is just ... oblivious to anything but herself, for most part, just a big flakey ... dependent
it's time for a wake up call