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I think Mark might be the most under rated actor in Thailand.

This is one of the most talented people I think GMM has ever signed and they give him side roles. His first main role was about a dentist in a sweet relationship, THAT sentence is cringe alone enough for me to skip that. I feel bad for Mark. That was his shot huh? Uh, huh - GMM, what's up this? Did he piss someone off, is he too arrogant off screen, does he want too much money?

Great pfp! I read that as Lemongrab the very first time and I didn't even consciously notice that was Lemongrab in your pfp - I read your name first, went like "omg that - ahh it is!!"

Thats perfect - well done 😁👍🔥

Right. Bc if they make another Spiderman movie and Tom Holland and Zendaya are married in real life by then - nobody will mention that in Hollywood, bc they are all super professional about just talking about the actors in their acting roles... lol.

I understand your point but THEY, chose to make this show while being in actual relationship - that is going to be discussed - just like it would be in Hollywood or Bollywood or S. Korea or China or anywhere else on earth that makes TV.

Recall how Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie made that movie, "Mr. and Mrs. Smith" and then they got together? Real life relationships happen due to an acting job frequently. Thats part of it...

Like how Dune promos kept teasing Timothee Chalomet with Zendaya even tho she is now engaged to her Co-Star in the Spiderman movies, Tom Holland... movies she made well before Dune.

In this instance that is not what even has happened. In the BL world, the leads of Unforgotten Night getting together after that show is the biggest example of that situation.

Apparently Daou and Offroad have been together since before they started doing BL even. I have no reason to ship them outside of their shows at all, I'm not that kind of viewer.

Hehe, I've been around here too long. There are some very, very active people - with many accounts. I forget exactly what drama it was but there was a BL where someone was using 5-6 different accounts to try completely control the conversation - by having conversation with themselves, arguing with themselves, accusing themselves of things but all around a slant they wanted to take with certain ship. There was only about 500 comments at the time and that person had the lion's share of all them. It was a bit bizarre. That was in the last year or two.

What you're dealing with here is more typical. The account won't be very old and will have little activity - often times, only the show/ship/actors the account is being used for - OR the account will be years old - again with very little activity. Few friends, if you follow the friends, they will usually very obviously link to one person - or all of them together. The biggest tell is the way they act - exactly like you've experienced here, they never reply, only aggravate, have like one opinion that they never shut up about, and are super active for like a day or two - then long pauses.

They are very bot like, but I don't know that they are bots... bots don't take breaks, these accounts do.

That isn't a real account.

Which means they are actually the "unhinged fan doing weird stuff"

I really was being genuine when I said I was glad you had replied recently - I really appreciate the whole explanation. I wanted to differ to your expertise and I think that is exactly what I will in this instance, as I have no reason not to believe you. I like your site btw ;)

I did see a clip where I thought immediately, "that could have been done better" but there are all these allusions to more - truthfully these days, video and social media and all digital "evidence" is actually rather easy to fake. With my very limited Mandarin, I'm unsure if I even could investigate this to my own 100% certainty. That was why the "15 Tickets Only" was such a convincing story - who am I to argue a local Chinese boycott?

With this being so political its also going to be taken advantage of by all anti-CCP actors/people/groups in China - if they can make Yu a voice in their movement they absolutely will do so, they have every incentive to as this reaches a different audience (younger) than they normally are focused on.

Of course, the CCP is going to shut that down as much as possible - as this progresses they may even go as far as totally cancel Yu - which might be why Netflix is removing his name (if that happened, I have not verified that) but that really could happen if Yu is successfully made into a "rebel cause" because that will "force" the CCP to cancel him - that is what they do.

Obviously all of that activity will just add to the appearance of conspiracy as the CCP shuts down all the anti-CCP narratives...

This is a bit of a mess.

Hey! I'm so glad you've commented recently bc I'm just discovering this story tbh

You claim to be a professional with 15 years of Asian Entertainment/Media journalistic expertise - so, he sold 15 tickets, is that a common happening? To me that is the most damning thing about this whole story. Clearly people believe the allegations - even the superfans, all but 15 of them...

Are you a superfan - or is there some other reason that you are so confident in this position?

Haha, this is one of the best examples of MyDL being a bit of a bubble - this is #5 on Douban rn.

This is only the 2nd drama that the Director of Bad Kids has ever made - and with this cast, if he had truly made an 8/10 drama, that would likely end his career... he obviously didn't do that.

#5 ranks higher than Nirvana in Fire @#6 - this is behind only:

Dream of Red Mansions @ #4
Journey to the West @ #3 1986 (the OG version for most)
Ming Dynasty 1566 @ #2
and ofc: My Only Swordsman @ #1

- those are all like cultural epics... I haven't seen this yet. If you were ever going to ignore an 8/10 rating, this is prolly the one 😉

I really, really like your pfp - a lot actually.

May I ask where that is from? It feels very familiar but I don't think I know it.

Hey Bud, so if you are actually Thai - um... I think you need to think about what exactly you are suggesting. You are a lawyer or some sort of legal professional - you should be able to understand what it would mean if internationally it becomes widely known that such content can be made in Thailand.

It annoyed me that they pulled this nonsense on such an anticipated production globally. Addicted was how I found Chinese and Thai media. Many millions of people that don't frequently watch Thai productions - checked this out bc they watched the OG.

Instead of being a "less controversial" and more accessible iteration of the OG production (and an excellent opportunity to show off Thai media and Thailand in general) - instead this version is primarily about this Age Gap nonsense.

I would have really rather had a show, targeting an international audience, that doesn't require you to explain the age of consent in Thailand.

I think anything that you need to write something like this about, is clearly and obviously, not OK.

Who really gives a f*ck about whats legal? Its legal to do a lot of things that its not OK to do. Lots and lots of things are like that. We call those gray areas - they exist legally and socially but in both cases they imply something that is technically OK, but actually not - or vice versa. They can be complicated but not all of them tho.

Some people think, that even if is something is kind of a gray area - certain somethings are actually NOT OK, even as a gray area.

Weirdly enough, age gaps between almost 30 somethings and an under 18 year old - yeah, thats one of those gray areas that actually isn't so gray. Its like wildly and ridiculously obvious actually - hence this nonsense list of excuses/justifications. You see, its not the AGE GAP - its one of the actors AGE. Under 18 actors shouldn't be playing sexualized roles paired with adult actors.

Are you suggesting that Hollywood can hire under 18 year old women to play 20 somethings attending college and pair them with actual 20 something men in romantic relationships? I mean, none of its real anyway - so... then it doesn't matter that certain predatory college age men do in fact target underage girls and would enjoy seeing such content for exactly those very wrong reasons??

Do you think this would exist if August was August and Poppy was a 16 year old female actor? I don't think it would. What this really is - is gray area exploitation of a young actor.

Simply stated - you don't need to write books explaining things that are OK to do, that are in fact actually ok to do.

Haha, so these statements are sooo incomprehensible for a normie person you ran into on some random website - that anyone saying such things to you, you perceive as taking a position so out of reach, its akin to a mortal imagining their own divinity?

Haha, I've not once claimed infallibility - I even told you I said debated stuff. Like, thats... a pretty poor God Complex. Were I to take such a position, it would be far better.

That I've pretty much handed you clues as to how actually challenge all the fallible stuff that I've said - and you replied that I have a God Complex, is quite interesting.

Haha, it had an archer duel - its far too Hollywood for douban, as intended. Its supposed to catch everyone that watches Strange Tales (which it almost automatically will do) plus a larger audience of viewers that have entirely different expectations. Netflix is making Disney type content now - by which I mean the opposite of niche, even with niche stuff like this. Thats how we get an archer duel in a Detective Dee story.

I never said it was the best drama - it doesn't have to be, bc its incredibly accessible being on Netflix. Clearly, successful enough, which warrants more money, and a more serious production overall, which is what I expect.

They kinda have to do this, bc Strange Tales is so successful.

Ahh, see the brilliant part of this whole bit, is that I'm not an academic, but I'm very well read and academia is like this big pyramid - one study refers to many previous, a handful of papers are cited countless times. Many, many years I've been reading academic articles - during covid there were 0 paywalls for them, I downloaded a ridiculous amount of research, for example.

Anyway, if I read all their shit and I am in fact smart - which doesn't actually require your kneeling at all, it means I actually am capable of essentially regurgitating their findings and theories and I'm capable of doing so in whatever language - I'M the one pointed out the lack of Latin, if you were to recall. Now, did I present somewhat contentious and controversial shit as if it were matter of fact - absolutely.

I can cherry pick whatever I want bc I know and you do not.

Again, great retort.

I do think it important to note tho, that in the JOL Universe, the most important person that has ever lived, was a women. She was an incredible inventor, scientist, philosopher, she was the wealthiest person from her business endeavors and that was the least remarkable thing about her.

The inscription on the monument left me not only speechless due to its incredible similarity to the Declaration of Independence and JOL being one of the most of the popular shows in China - it changed the way I see China, not wholly, it was literally propaganda but it was incredibly effective. The CCP has claimed for a long time China will be a Democracy - they can definitely talk the talk, I was impressed. I was also floored that it was delivered by a women. She is the center of the political, economic, scientific, etc JOL world - its quite remarkable.

Yes, this is a male centric drama - I don't believe women are discounted tho.

Haha, thats not how this works. Netflix saw Strange Tales (which is wildly popular globally) and wants in on that, but they can't do the same thing - so they made a show about the literal Master of the Lead in Strange Tales.

The setting of the show during the Dynasty of the Empress Dowager - means anyone that has seen Strange Tales, has been prepped for this series, without even knowing it. It was brilliant. They threw money at it. Paraded around a ton of expensive current celebrities. Netflix expects a return on that investment.

That it was greenlit for a second season means it hit a minimum threshold of viewership. That they are taking their time with it - means they likely intend to continue to take advantage of another platform's most successful show. I expect a higher quality production for season 2.

Uh huh, word salad, right. Sure, that might be applicable to that singular reply of mine, otherwise I've been fairly coherent. Even that again, is the way it is, so I apologize for my attempt to clue you in.

Tbh Bud, your whining about my calling you out on being an assh*le - just to be an assh*le, so whine away - its funny you think I'm the one stomping my feet.

I've been wondering how old you are for awhile now.

Its sexist not bc I feel like it is, but bc it is considered to be by a rather significant amount of people - a disproportionate number of the users of this site may be the most likely to find offense at the exact term, fujoshi itself was an insult at one point, so to combine the two compounds things.

Its really nothing to do with your opinion.

If you would like to avoid discussions like this - its as simple as not saying something so unnecessary.

Also, I don't think thats something that would offend most men - so your example doesn't really fit. You would have something actually offensive to men as an example - not the same scenario as men and women different standards regarding stuff like this.

I do agree that people ought not to be offended by such stuff - its almost impossible to actually offend me. That said, using language just to be offensive, is itself a little offensive, bc you literally intend it to be - I have to ignore that, which is easy but you're acting like your not party to the reactions that people have to your content. That is just silly.

You can take a silly position - I'm fine with that too.

My last thoughts on all this tho - just to clarify.

As much as I disagree with you at times, you are a rather prolific user of this site, and its not that I'm admonishing you to see less of your activity - that isn't at all what I'm going for, I just really dislike seeing such language, call it a trigger if you will.

My attempt at explaining something that has taken me many, many years to grasp the extent of myself - how much evolution has made us as we are, was only to get to the root of the issue with you. As a gay man - you have much easier time understanding that humans had bisexual evolution, which is something there is more than enough evidence in simply how we literally function but has never been addressed bc it changes everything. The entire social order from the foundations would need to be revaluated. So it is ignored, like many, many things. It explains a lot to say the least.

Anyway, I do actually hope you have a good day.