Jakksen

Haha, like I said - think whatever you want 😉

Well, I'm not going to explain economics to you - there is nothing about this that isn't exactly understandable. Think whatever you want - I'd appreciate if you didn't speak so poorly of one my favorite cultures but again - do whatever you want.

I don't expect anyone to see as big a picture as I do - most can't.

OK - you are not looking at the whole picture. This is a new genre - it took Thailand by surprise. The reality is that BL is now the most lucrative media created in Thailand - by a huge margin. That means everyone has to make BL - those that want to and those that don't. Some projects are made to a formula bc they are only supposed to emulate the financial success - the production itself is secondary, obviously those are not as good.

Eventually, only those that make good BL will remain - but first the demand must drop to the point where the bad shows don't still make more money than a traditional Thai media production. So little of this is within Thailand's control - they are just reacting, riding a wave they didn't create and don't kno when, or if, will end.

Its relative for me. I've developed quite an appetite for culture and have developed the ability to appreciate things for what they are. Nobody creates anything terrible intentionally, often even the worse productions haves elements they do well. Intent matters quite a lot for me. This show had its flaws but the production did everything they could with the resources they had and that shows very clearly to me.

This is a smaller production with newer Actors leading the project - am I supposed to expect Hollywood polish from them? Thats just silly.

This was a beautiful show and I think everyone involved should feel very proud of themselves for their accomplishment.

Also - the "Turd Out of Thailand assembly line" - think whatever you want about Thailand but this Country is creating this content for US - NOBODY else is to the extent they are, nobody else ever had before they did, we owe a lot to Thailand - perhaps take that into consideration a little bit when speaking of the Country.

Yeah, your English is fine - I've never had any issues understanding you and tho the original comment could have been worded a little different - as is it couldn't confuse an English speaker. Anyone struggling with this likely has much worse English skills than you.

This is isn't English class - we are just trying to communicate with each other - as long as we kno what each other mean to say, it doesn't matter how we get there. The very last thing I care about when talking with International people is grammar.

I just really appreciate that we all have common language to use - I'm never judging anyone on how well they use English.

Blessed are the weird people -

poets, misfits, writers, mystics, heretics, painters and troubadours-
for they teach us to see the world through different eyes.

Blessed are those who embrace the intensity of life’s pain and pleasure -
for they shall be rewarded with uncommon ecstasy.

Blessed are ye who see beauty in ugliness -
for you shall transform our vision of how the world might be.

Blessed are the bold and whimsical -
for their imagination shatters ancient boundaries of fear for us all.

Blessed are ye who are mocked for unbridled expression of love in all its forms -
because your kind of crazy is exactly that freedom for which the world
is unconsciously begging.

Blessed are those who have endured breaking by life -
for they are the resplendent cracks through which the light shines.

— Jacob Nordby


...unless they make shows about penguin ppl - then f*ck them I guess.

😉

ForceBook have absolutely killed it - they did 💯 I have never liked them more and I really thought they had come into their own already with Only Friends. They played these roles so well - I don't how anyone could think otherwise.

tbh - these two kinda snuck on me, how much I actually like them. I didn't even realize until Book showed up in Only Boo and I wasn't expecting bc I hadn't looked at the cast and I was genuinely happy to see him in that show. Force and Book have been around awhile and they have improved with every performance. To me they have become a staple of the BL world and I feel that they deserve to be.

Yes!

Well said - Bravo! This is an excellent display of highly refined empathy - thats a very, very good ability to refine.

Are you familiar with the expression "If you build it, they will come" - its from a baseball movie. Your comment presents the problem itself.

I watched Addicted 1st or 2nd in my BL discovery in 2018, then Love Sick, then Sotus - I've seen so many Thai BLs. China stopped making BLs - they made Bromances for awhile, then stopped altogether. I've watched hundreds and hundreds of hours of Chinese series since they stopped making BL - across a wide range of genres. The historicals got me first - then Tomb Raiding and now I subscribe to WeTV and IQIYI, despite not really liking all the shows made for women and not being Chinese and knowing very little Manderin. I'm definitely in the minority of viewers but I give them money every single month...

If I watched Addicted and nothing else was subbed I wouldn't be giving them money every month.

Thailand lacks a streaming service for its media, so the creators and studios and companies that create Thai media just don't realize the money left on the table so to say. I see people all the time requesting obscure Thai shows be subbed - and people always only expect international subs, so English - one additional language is all that is required to essentially provide a base minimum of access that nobody can complain about.

That isn't hard to do - its a priority thing and its only prioritized low bc Thailand is still very traditional when it comes to media, Channels still seem to be a thing for example. I don't kno how I could access a channel - I don't have cable, I don't kno anyone with cable - I haven't thought in terms of channels in maybe 15+ years.

I'll never forget the early BL days where the projects were literally financed by the gifts fans would give their ships at fan meets - they had no idea how to make money from the international audience for awhile - they are still bad at it tbh.

The subs are just the most visible example.

That is a big gap but its legal everywhere on earth - no "cultural considerations" necessary, no pretending they are just actors acting as characters that are older or younger than I kno them to be, just awkward.

"I'll probably still feel sad over the next few days and shed a tear or two." - that is what I thought too. This show hits different than others like it - I don't kno why, I just kno it does.

I've randomly thought of this show so many times - you don't yet realize how many white trucks there are everywhere. I used to occasionally solo camp but the last time I did I ended up just thinking about this show... that scene of him camping just completely broke me.

For whatever reason this show is one of the most impactful pieces of media I've ever interacted with - someday maybe I'll rewatch it, maybe.

Haha, no I'm not annoyed that you dropped a show, watch whatever you want, or not. I will never block someone for disagreeing with me - my opinions typically hold their own but ultimately my opinion of my opinion is the only one that matters.

When I am wrong tho, which occasionally does happen, its nice to have people call me out on it - people that disagree with me or dislike me are great for that.

I meant that it made me literally cringe and wince a little to read Caged Again and Eternal Butler in the same sentence and same context- as if they were comparable or categorically the same. Personally, I feel they rank on opposite ends of the quality spectrum, its like lowkey disrespecting Caged Again mentioning Eternal Butler in the same breath. I dislike that I'm doing it now even.

If you only watched a bit of Caged - I highly recommend a revisit.

Oh that is how true betrayal always goes - it breaks a person. The rage comes after the numbness and fills the space where personality used to be. That often becomes the new personality - bitter, angry and seeking revenge.

I kno immediately if I like someone - not just romantically, like if I could hang out with someone, there is a chemistry to friendships. If you meet someone that you have friend chemistry with and you also have real chemistry and find them attractive - that is a person you can really fall for, someone you could easily fall in love with.

I think Kant realized he had both of those with Bison that first night and he is old enough to realize Bison is potential partner material. I think he kinda has a lowkey crush from the gate.

No, Cap is a Cop and he is after a Lady using groomed young men to assassinate people for money - they are not all bad people, they are just contracts - Mother is the only evil character I've seen yet.

All others are grey - in life there is very rarely black or white situations.

Another way of saying this - "Only the Sith deal in absolutes" - to see a black or white world is itself evil.

Welcome to modern policing. What happens to Kant on this show happens everyday to people all over the world - nobody cares tho bc those people are criminals. I don't kno that anyone voluntarily becomes a police informant - the vast majority are coerced into dangerous work for no pay.

I agree best JoongDunk roles yet - Dunk is just fantastic in this!

Well said btw. Everything has been done before and everything will be done again - thats life for all of us.

The core of the plot is the core of Taming - that is enough for an adaptation, nothing else needs to be the same at all.

Did you read Taming of the Shrew? Did you understand it?

Go watch "10 Things I Hate About You" its another modern adaptation and this series leans on that as much as the OG play. Its a really good 90s movie tbh - Heath Ledger is the role that Style plays, Joseph Gordon Levitt is Kant, Julia Stiles is Fadel and Larisa Oleynik plays Bison's character.

Taming is not something that we will see a direct adaption of - its an incredibly sexist story that celebrates some of the worse elements of the world that was. Very out of fashion rn tbh

I think the restaurant Heart Burger alone by itself, without a story or cast, is more creative than several BLs from 24 - I mean you can write it but I don't know how you can change the reality of what I just said.