There was one comment of that nature, and it's exaggerated but not totally without merit. There's a segment of…
I just read a comment on a Pinoy BL trailer written by a 75 year old man. I've actually seen a fair amount of that recently. Youtube introduced them - probably thru Heartstopper content.
All Gay men on earth are like a bear to honey for this content - as its about us. You project, we do not.
There are roughly 8 Billion people on earth today (8.145b) in the US apparently around 7% of the pop identifies as GLBTQ - lets assume that number applies to the global pop as well. 560 million ppl could possibly identify with this content but I'm going to go ahead and divide that number by 2, so as to really get a good idea of how many gay men, in specific could potentially discover this content - any point in life will do, they will watch it.
280,000,000 Gay Men on Earth approx - that number drops a bit, some men live in places where they cant be gay or get online, let take out 80 million to be conservative in our estimates. 200,000,000 - now only 69% of the global population has solid internet access, so lets take out 31% more Gay Men =
138,000,000 Million Gay Men - that is the net cast with every single one of these shows, each time one airs, 138,000,000 Gay Men are all potential and very likely watchers - they need only kno of it. Not every show gets all of us, or at the same time, but even now the writing is all over all the walls about where this will be in 5 more years.
The big BLs each year will get like 80-100+ million Gay Male viewers almost by default/automatically. From everywhere on earth but all with similar interests, tastes, likes - they are all GAY, super easy to sell stuff to a crowd of essentially similar, same gendered ppl - isn't it obvious actually what type of companies and products will be financing future big BL productions?
For comparison - the most viewed Superbowl ever, 2024, had 123.7 million average viewers.
This is why I say stuff like "Someday the value of the Thai BL Market will transcend the value of all Thai Marketable Media" - bc it will. Bc of Gay Men. This little blip here could sell a company on an advertising spot, kinda obvious once pointed out - don't you think?
The female viewers are great in number but how many are there really?
I don't know why only a small fraction of the series is given such a high priority that it seems as if this fraction…
Rain had me at that one scene with the raining and where he is holding the umbrella for Payu while he is changing a flat tire - the one when Payu takes off his mask and Rain exclaims how handsome he is. Not sure if you remember the scene exactly but that is when I decided I liked Rain, I feel like that was pretty early on, so why not Payu fall for Rain in that same moment I did as a viewer?
I've also only seen the 2nd half of this show once - sus we just have different tastes bc Unforgotton Night is near unparalleled in its mastery πππ
Whats the story? Rain thinks he likes Ple but she is obsessed with Payu, so Rain becomes curious of Payu right…
Haha, I do watch them and I dont watch all the school shows anymore but Im going to watch all the good ones forever to makeup for not having such content when I was young - its like literally seeing how far we've come in some respects. Makes me feel better about all the aids movies I saw til my 30s.
I've also noticed something - I still like all the BL actors that Ive always liked - Singto or Ohm are great OG examples. They, like all of us age and as long as they keep acting I will keep watching them, like any other favorite actor. Bc I will and Im assuming others too - they will prolly have acting work as long as they want to... but their roles will change over time. Teachers not students etc.
So, eventually I will see a lot of BL that has nothing to do with a school regardless what I watch now. Plus this genre is only about 5 years old - maybe in 10 years there will be hardly any school shows.
For now, I'll watch all the quality productions - hopefully someday that alone can't narrow the field enough π
There was one comment of that nature, and it's exaggerated but not totally without merit. There's a segment of…
You are quite silly if you think this content is only being made for women these days. You can see from the stories themselves that men are becoming more and more the target demographic for this content. I feel like this is rather obvious simply from the fact that most of the OG BL tropes are no longer depicted in BL.
I'm not saying that BL is for gay men - I don't why it has to be for women, it can be for all of us.
Whats the story? Rain thinks he likes Ple but she is obsessed with Payu, so Rain becomes curious of Payu right…
Nice! So glad I convinced you - I was just so surprised after so many BLs where ppl literally just go to school to see a comment about lack of story I had to say something bc this is obviously more than that π
For me this drama is so bad . I mean what is the story ??
Whats the story?
Rain thinks he likes Ple but she is obsessed with Payu, so Rain becomes curious of Payu right from start and bc he also is a legend at the faculty - turns he is the handsome man who changed his tire in the rain. Prapai thought he found a clever, albeit messed up, way to get himself a one night stand with Sky and caught feelings - lucky for him his friend started dated his one night stands best friend. There is also bike racing.
That is better plot than lots of BLs and this easily the best MAME story.
Boss and Noeul are one of the believable couples in all of BL - I wonder about them irl a bit they are so into each other on screen and I don't ship actors irl, they are just that convincing - way more so than most.
You are quite a character Mr. Heartless. Its kinda funny this is the comment that made up my mind about watching…
Haha, so you think my interpretation of your username coupled with the comment that you posted renders my "memo" to be incredible? That is rather humorous to me.
How am I to know your whims or intent? My interpretation of what you present cannot be false - it is simply my take of what I see. Am I to perceive a kind and loving individual from what you have presented?
That you would choose such a username on a whim is incredible to me π
I learned of the drama called "The Double" by reading this and I will very likely watch it now.
I'm very impressed with this article. Its incredibly informative but not a lecture at all - that is difficult to do, especially considering the topic. Very well done.
I am so confused by Jennie's character because what do you mean you as a grown adult are thirsting after a literal…
I love Jennie - its too bad she is always playing the comic relief. I think all of that was actually to show us that Jennie and the other one are actually together bc they get all jelly about it despite there being literally no chance of anything coming from her crush even if it were legit. I truly think it was harmless over exaggeration without any real intent behind it.
I refuse to watch the Thai Addicted for the exact issue of grown adults with high school children so I understand.
This is a little bit of Thai cultural thing at play this time. I'm sure you've noticed "Angel Gang" type characters in many shows that blatantly hit on everyone they think attractive - often saying borderline sexual harassment type stuff but nobody bats an eye to it and meanwhile a long gaze between our hot jock and twinky leads is interpretated as overtly sexual. This is all third gender dynamics that really don't exist outside of Thailand. The easiest way to explain my understanding of the general Thai perception of third gendered people is that they are always passive. Thats the joke here actually. Ohm will never pick Jennie and Ohm would have to.
I can understand how you feel. Some of the scenes do seem to go on longer than necessary. I guess I don't mind…
I really like what they have done with Aim also - it rather absolves her character, she is dealing with the same thing that Phun is and that actually makes their relationship make more sense. Both of them were getting what they wanted out of the relationship with the status of it alone so they are really more like close friends than romantic partners - also lets them pretend they are those people and not who they actually are. Now they have an opportunity to even help each other come to terms with their own respective sexuality - thats so much better than the OG cheater plot.
I'm glad to see you like it. It does seem like a lot of us that have been around for awhile do really enjoy it - so I do realize there is a nostalgia element going on with this show but I really do think its quite well done in general.
I keep making this correlation between Progress and the actual progress the world has made in the 10 years since the OG. He chose that name and then became famous for playing a character that has already been played before - the differences between this Noh and the OG Noh is literally progress. The OG Noh was the Noh that could be in the world that was then and the Noh we have now is the Noh that can exist in the world that is now. The biggest difference between the OG Love Sick and 24 - is the world that they were released to and made for.
Progress. This is all very visible and very real progress.
what tf theyβre so youngβ¦ thatβs why acting was a bit off. but charcter noh is portrayed a lot better but…
What you are noticing is the difference between the natural talents and the trained. Some Actors can train themselves to be as good as any natural talent but that takes time. These are HS age actors. For example, Progress is a natural, like measuring his acting skills, he is incredibly gifted - makes it appear effortless. Almond is talented but not as natural as Noh, so at times even tho his expressions are correct his delivery isn't as fluid as Noh so you can tell that he is acting - cut the kid some slack. Almond with 5 years acting experience will make that seem effortless also.
I didn't notice many unmatching scenes - I'm not sure exactly what you mean?
Some of the Directing is a bit cheesy, lots of long stares but in general I think this is fantastically done. The parallels are like a mic drop in many respects. This show is literally proof of how much Thailand, and the original Love Sick, changed the world in just a single decade.
I just commented about how I didn't think the kids behavior was all that off to me for them being teenagers and all but really all of this is very off from my teenage years. Its all very gay. Tho this seems kinda normal almost now, 11 years ago none of this existed in media at all. This show is showing us what I just said in so many ways.
The Director, Producers, Writers, Actors, Studio, IQIYI - everyone involved knew exactly how significant this Love Sick show was and is. I can see that.
Phun love aim so much that he's willing to essentially be "gay" to satisfy his sister so he can date his girlfriend…
Haha, reading your comment sounded like high school - which is perfect bc that is what the show is about, makes sense even. These are teenagers depicting teenagers as teenagers π Empathy isn't really a very common teenage trait. None of the way these kids are treating each other has seemed off to me and many HS relationships end bc of someone else.
Any other stage of life all this is completely messed up but in HS - this is just a Tuesday.
I completely agree with you, princess Ning character is the worst, so childish and takes unnecessary time from…
I liked your suggestion of EB cut with less Princess Ning π€£
I really felt like she was made and intended to be almost as annoying as possible - I kept expecting her to grow up or maybe care a little that she might die or her kingdom falls. She was exactly the same from the first episode to the 14th, where I dropped the show.
If they had kept her as a very limited side character she maybe could have been like this and had it not destroy the entire production but I completely with you - had her character been almost any other type of character it would have been fine.
Well, after watching Eternal Brotherhood - I wish they had left her character secondary. They made her a central…
I've heard good things about Dashing Youth - hopefully you enjoyed that one and all of its characters ;) I kinda ranted on the comment below yours - I didn't see your reply til now.
I understand your and even JoySum's points but... I don't want to see EB2. I have half of EB1 to watch - I stopped mid episode, in the middle of a scene even.
I would believe you if you told me that the Director actually hated her and was trying to ruin her career.
Well, after watching Eternal Brotherhood - I wish they had left her character secondary. They made her a central…
Badly written character? She plays a character that has the mentality of a preteen girl but is actually an adult Princess - the Heir Apparent even. Its ridiculous - everything about her character is ridiculous. She shows up in the story after the lead gets essentially banished to a nowhere posting - she shows up in a carriage with her maid servant... wtf?
They did a whole multi episode bit about her whining that she never gets to leave bc life is so hard but, prior to that, I don't think she left her bedroom more than once, she did have a point. Then she shows up in the wilderness - twice, just to have some silly fun.
She is not only annoying, her character is absurd and the idea of her as a monarch - that country is screwed. Her character derails the entire story, a story I would never have stopped in the middle were she just a normal person or a normal princess or even a Disney princess - not a princess that ought to be institutionalized.
Fr tho - how could anyone be attracted to somebody so nonsense - acting like a 9 year old at 19 is not cute. I don't want to think the Lead loves her, that makes me feel bad for him. Who was target demographic for that character?
I'm sorry that the Director and writers did her so dirty with this role bc it was the first I seen her in and her image is akin to nails on a chalkboard now. I almost think they intended to do that it was so effectively done.
This is a button and I'm clearly still upset about it.
All Gay men on earth are like a bear to honey for this content - as its about us. You project, we do not.
There are roughly 8 Billion people on earth today (8.145b) in the US apparently around 7% of the pop identifies as GLBTQ - lets assume that number applies to the global pop as well. 560 million ppl could possibly identify with this content but I'm going to go ahead and divide that number by 2, so as to really get a good idea of how many gay men, in specific could potentially discover this content - any point in life will do, they will watch it.
280,000,000 Gay Men on Earth approx - that number drops a bit, some men live in places where they cant be gay or get online, let take out 80 million to be conservative in our estimates. 200,000,000 - now only 69% of the global population has solid internet access, so lets take out 31% more Gay Men =
138,000,000 Million Gay Men - that is the net cast with every single one of these shows, each time one airs, 138,000,000 Gay Men are all potential and very likely watchers - they need only kno of it. Not every show gets all of us, or at the same time, but even now the writing is all over all the walls about where this will be in 5 more years.
The big BLs each year will get like 80-100+ million Gay Male viewers almost by default/automatically. From everywhere on earth but all with similar interests, tastes, likes - they are all GAY, super easy to sell stuff to a crowd of essentially similar, same gendered ppl - isn't it obvious actually what type of companies and products will be financing future big BL productions?
For comparison - the most viewed Superbowl ever, 2024, had 123.7 million average viewers.
This is why I say stuff like "Someday the value of the Thai BL Market will transcend the value of all Thai Marketable Media" - bc it will. Bc of Gay Men. This little blip here could sell a company on an advertising spot, kinda obvious once pointed out - don't you think?
The female viewers are great in number but how many are there really?
I've also only seen the 2nd half of this show once - sus we just have different tastes bc Unforgotton Night is near unparalleled in its mastery πππ
I've also noticed something - I still like all the BL actors that Ive always liked - Singto or Ohm are great OG examples. They, like all of us age and as long as they keep acting I will keep watching them, like any other favorite actor. Bc I will and Im assuming others too - they will prolly have acting work as long as they want to... but their roles will change over time. Teachers not students etc.
So, eventually I will see a lot of BL that has nothing to do with a school regardless what I watch now. Plus this genre is only about 5 years old - maybe in 10 years there will be hardly any school shows.
For now, I'll watch all the quality productions - hopefully someday that alone can't narrow the field enough π
Sry, I'm in a chatty mood apparently.
I'm not saying that BL is for gay men - I don't why it has to be for women, it can be for all of us.
I hope you have an awesome day!
Rain thinks he likes Ple but she is obsessed with Payu, so Rain becomes curious of Payu right from start and bc he also is a legend at the faculty - turns he is the handsome man who changed his tire in the rain. Prapai thought he found a clever, albeit messed up, way to get himself a one night stand with Sky and caught feelings - lucky for him his friend started dated his one night stands best friend. There is also bike racing.
That is better plot than lots of BLs and this easily the best MAME story.
Boss and Noeul are one of the believable couples in all of BL - I wonder about them irl a bit they are so into each other on screen and I don't ship actors irl, they are just that convincing - way more so than most.
How am I to know your whims or intent? My interpretation of what you present cannot be false - it is simply my take of what I see. Am I to perceive a kind and loving individual from what you have presented?
That you would choose such a username on a whim is incredible to me π
I'm very impressed with this article. Its incredibly informative but not a lecture at all - that is difficult to do, especially considering the topic. Very well done.
I refuse to watch the Thai Addicted for the exact issue of grown adults with high school children so I understand.
This is a little bit of Thai cultural thing at play this time. I'm sure you've noticed "Angel Gang" type characters in many shows that blatantly hit on everyone they think attractive - often saying borderline sexual harassment type stuff but nobody bats an eye to it and meanwhile a long gaze between our hot jock and twinky leads is interpretated as overtly sexual. This is all third gender dynamics that really don't exist outside of Thailand. The easiest way to explain my understanding of the general Thai perception of third gendered people is that they are always passive. Thats the joke here actually. Ohm will never pick Jennie and Ohm would have to.
I'm glad to see you like it. It does seem like a lot of us that have been around for awhile do really enjoy it - so I do realize there is a nostalgia element going on with this show but I really do think its quite well done in general.
I keep making this correlation between Progress and the actual progress the world has made in the 10 years since the OG. He chose that name and then became famous for playing a character that has already been played before - the differences between this Noh and the OG Noh is literally progress. The OG Noh was the Noh that could be in the world that was then and the Noh we have now is the Noh that can exist in the world that is now. The biggest difference between the OG Love Sick and 24 - is the world that they were released to and made for.
Progress. This is all very visible and very real progress.
I didn't notice many unmatching scenes - I'm not sure exactly what you mean?
Some of the Directing is a bit cheesy, lots of long stares but in general I think this is fantastically done. The parallels are like a mic drop in many respects. This show is literally proof of how much Thailand, and the original Love Sick, changed the world in just a single decade.
I just commented about how I didn't think the kids behavior was all that off to me for them being teenagers and all but really all of this is very off from my teenage years. Its all very gay. Tho this seems kinda normal almost now, 11 years ago none of this existed in media at all. This show is showing us what I just said in so many ways.
The Director, Producers, Writers, Actors, Studio, IQIYI - everyone involved knew exactly how significant this Love Sick show was and is. I can see that.
I think its pretty well done tbh.
Any other stage of life all this is completely messed up but in HS - this is just a Tuesday.
I really felt like she was made and intended to be almost as annoying as possible - I kept expecting her to grow up or maybe care a little that she might die or her kingdom falls. She was exactly the same from the first episode to the 14th, where I dropped the show.
If they had kept her as a very limited side character she maybe could have been like this and had it not destroy the entire production but I completely with you - had her character been almost any other type of character it would have been fine.
I understand your and even JoySum's points but... I don't want to see EB2. I have half of EB1 to watch - I stopped mid episode, in the middle of a scene even.
I would believe you if you told me that the Director actually hated her and was trying to ruin her career.
They did a whole multi episode bit about her whining that she never gets to leave bc life is so hard but, prior to that, I don't think she left her bedroom more than once, she did have a point. Then she shows up in the wilderness - twice, just to have some silly fun.
She is not only annoying, her character is absurd and the idea of her as a monarch - that country is screwed. Her character derails the entire story, a story I would never have stopped in the middle were she just a normal person or a normal princess or even a Disney princess - not a princess that ought to be institutionalized.
Fr tho - how could anyone be attracted to somebody so nonsense - acting like a 9 year old at 19 is not cute. I don't want to think the Lead loves her, that makes me feel bad for him. Who was target demographic for that character?
I'm sorry that the Director and writers did her so dirty with this role bc it was the first I seen her in and her image is akin to nails on a chalkboard now. I almost think they intended to do that it was so effectively done.
This is a button and I'm clearly still upset about it.