These dramas make it seem like all it takes for a genuine concern and little bit attention from the family is…
This is my biggest concern with this drama at the moment. While others are worrying that it's not enough of a romcom or judging FL or prefering 2nd Lead spairing to MLs, i'm more concerned with how REALISTIC THE HEALING PART of drama will be now....
With only 7 more eps (+romance development), it seems likely that the healing and family understanding her will come across and cheap and not realistic. π€¦ββοΈ I'll likely end up giving this drama a 8.5 and not a 10 rating like hoped, because it seems like ALOT of the plot development has unfortunately been misplaced at only the last Few eps of the drama rather than scattred throught drama....
3 more mins for ep 10 to air. LETS HOPE ITS GOOD AND NOT TRAUMATISING
I hope it also begins to make plot more fast-paced, so that everything not rushed at last 2 eps π π€¦ββοΈπ€¦ββοΈ
I generally like the slower pace of this drama, BUT I do think all that happened in eps 8-9 (FL was sick twist + her secrets out to all) should have happend all by ep6 latest, cause now there's ALOT of overcoming her trauma required, how to have proper time for THAT + also the romance in 6-7 eps?!?
TO THE ONES WHO CANNOT READ FL, WHICH SEEMS LIKE MANY OF YOU π here's a summary of her Point of view, I have similar personality+ family burdening me with high career performance too:
The ex was just Repeating her trauma with her family lack of emotional support for her! Yet many people are all "whyyyy does fl NOT LEAN ON HER SUPPORT SYSTEM!?!.... ....I ask: WHAT support system, the one hat Emotionally WASN'T THERE FOR HER throught her life, forced her into perfectionist high career perfomance, while ignoring her emotional needs?!?. And is STILL insisting she goes back the Fortune 500 company against her will....; It's NO WONDER FL PUSHES PEOPLE AWAY....
I only disagree with FL pushing also ML away, he HAS been supportive unlike her family. But looks like FL is too traumatized from her family's non-existent support, to even trust ML. π Next eps, FL must overcome her trauma, thankfully her secrets are revelaed now, which will make it easier to happen.
all his words and thoughts and actions and support while she was in hospital and after at home = remind me her…
The ex was just Repeating her trauma with her family lack of emotional support for her! Yet many people are all "whyyyy does fl NOT LEAN ON HER SUPPORT SYSTEM!?!.... ....I ask: WHAT support system, then one hat Emotionally WASN'T THERE FOR HER throught her life, forced her into perfctionist high career perfomance, while ignoring her emotional needs?!?.....; It's NO WONDER FL PUSHES PEOPLE AWAY....
I haven't watched w/subs so can only trust that your description of his words are correct (frankly, watching w/out…
"I don't like the way he suddenly arrived on her doorstep w/no advance notice. I don't like the way he manipulated a potential contract with Seung-hyo's firm. I don't like the way he wants to drag her away to the USA and away from her family. " >>>> When you put it like that, yes he is indeed annoying and controlling, what ONLY HIS OPINIONS, GOALS AND PLANS MATTERS according to him lol?!? π€¦ββοΈ It seems he'll by gone next ep.??π₯π₯
What these letters stand for?I gather from context they are presonlity traits?
The letters are parts of a person's personality yes. There are 16 different personalities according to this system. There are also other lesser known systems, personally I generally prefer Enneagram to MBTI, because it goes much deeper into motivations, but I didn't think most people know it, so wrote their MBTI.
I have more sympathy for him. She was wrong from the beginning. Hiding something as serious as cancer from her…
Why are you giving him forgiveness in that situation of Hiding things from family and friends, he was RIGHT THERE ENABLING the hiding and not insisting they tell others?;?! They BOTH were at fault for hiding things.
I have sympathy for her because I have a very similar personality to FL, Mixed in with similar family that expect me to be highly succesful and perfoming, making me understand FL's inner struggles easily: She's a person easily hurt if others don't give emotional support, and ALL HER FREAKING LIFE the family has held Perfectionist standards, supporting her only on paper, while ignoring her EMOTIONAL NEEDS. In return, she is too TRAUMATIZED to trust others. However I think she is worse than me when it comes to not trusting others, I mean EVEN NOT TELLING ABOUT CANCER is a MINDBLOWING level of Insisiting on handling things alone and distrusti g others!!!
I hope now that things are out in the open FINALLY, that she can overcome her trauma and LEARN TO LEAN ON OTHERS.
NOT EVERYONE HAS THIS CAPABILITY, some people because of their personality, mixed in with trauma, are not capable of "just go through hardships of life together" and WILL PUSH people away. She is not selfishly pushing people away, she is traumatized and INCAPABLE OF LEANING ON OTHERS.
Her family and friends aren't OWED to be leaned on, and if FL feels that she CANNOT LEAN ON THEM, then SOMETHING IS WRONG in how they treated her!!!
....BUT!: I'd like to add to this that FL SHOULD have trusted ML at least, and NOT TAKE OUT her family's lack of emotional support for her on ML. But it is what is is, looks like she is too traumatized. And indeed the WAY she rejected ML was too harch, I hope she apologizes later!
Also about the ex, he also one who didn't EMOTIONALLY support her enough, that's very quick way for someone with FL and mine personality to lose interest lol, also he is REPEATING her family trauma of emptionally unsupportive family that supports in other ways but not emotionally, it must be off putting for her.... so not surprised she got over him, it also helps that he has a super bland personality lol.
Even though SHE HERSELF pushes people away and won't let people supoort her, don't be surprised if later on she'll gain the biggest love for anyone emotionally supporting her, this PUSHING AWAY FROM SUPOORTS is trauma and not a CHOICE of behaviour by FL, i don't think even SHE understands that YET!
FL's ex's MBTI Is BORING. What FL ever saw in him remains a mystery to me, personally I only saw a hopelessly BLAND person (maybe he's an ISTJ, ESTJ, or ISFJ) , he puts me to sleep in his lack of charm or personality Zzzzzz....
ML's ex MBTI is being super cool, fun and mature. (Probably a cool ENTJ or ENTP), I almost ship her with ML because she's such a cool person π
Edit: I just want to clarify, that there's some wonderful ISTJ, ESTJ & ISFJs out there, both fictional characters and real people, and that obviously not everyone lives up to this "boring" stereotype of these types, allthough some of you do, in case any ISTJ,ESTJ&ISFJs here thinks I'm shaming THEM. But THIS GUY/CHARACTER definitely DOES live up to the Boring bland stereotype, He is BORINGNESS PERSONIFIED lol. End of my TED talk lol.
He said those things in the heat of the moment, he never meant them that way. Have you seen how the FL doubted…
That's just it. He apparantly resigned from job, but never suggested they go back to Korea for more support and apparently he had no supoortive Friends either?!! Don't get me wrong they were BOTH at fault for lack of supoort system, FL for unwillingness to tell her family and friends, her Ex for ALLOWING IT. FL doesn't want to tell people, and fiance is just "ok" with that?!? π€¦ββοΈπ€¦ββοΈ
Oh don't get me wrong, I didn't like FL when she did that, but clearly she wasn't feeling fully supported there.
What he SHOULD have done is make FL understand the importance of telling her family and friends, instead he was ENABLING FL Toxic insecurities which in turn brough the burden more on himself.
I haven't watched w/subs so can only trust that your description of his words are correct (frankly, watching w/out…
I watched with Engsub.
So many people are understanding of CARETAKERS of sick people, and NOT understanding of the sick people. Being sick and not able to do anything is also stressful, but sympathy only for the caretaker, because they're the one DOING thingsπ€¦ββοΈ
The way he kept saying "Seokry wants this, Seokryo needs this...." when he returned to get her back was indeed annoyingly controlling. THE WOMAN CAN SPEAK FOR HERSELF!
But more than that: his biggest flaw is just being plain MEGA BORING. π π Personally for me FL's ex's personality is just to BLAND for me, what highly boring person lol, compared to ML's ex who has a nice and FUN personality, so it's understandable ML dated her, meanwhile FL's Ex is SOOOOOO BORING to the point it's like "Why did she even like him before LMAO?!? π π π "
He said those things in the heat of the moment, he never meant them that way. Have you seen how the FL doubted…
I've seen it first hand, I very much remember my grandma taking care of my sick grandpa before he passed away from cancer and helping her out when I had the chance....You can be exhausted all you wanr, tou can even LASH OUT AT THE PERSON but you NEVER EVER LASH OUT at and guilt trip the sick person for depression!!! π€¦ββοΈπ€¦ββοΈ
We all have different needs in relationship, maybe mine (&FL's) involve more a emotionally supportive part need than to yours, that we'd easily dump a person who didn't provide that, REGARRDLESS of how supportive otherwise the person is. Words of affirmation maybe a bigger love language need for some than others.
It doesn't mean that the ex-fiance is a BAD Person, it does mean that they are NOT COMBATIBLE, since their emotional needs don't align.
Regardless of what you think of the FL, she DIDN'T FEEL SUPPORTED BY him, so she dumped him, "omg how dare you take a break with a party" just an excuse when you feel resentment over lack of Emotional support....
That scene with FL and her ex: How to NOT treat a depressed person 101. π€¦ββοΈ
I was SHOCKED when he told her she was not allowed to be depressed, AMIDST FREAKING CANCER...!!! π€¦ββοΈπ€¦ββοΈ
Also him "not being dragged down with her" was apparntly more important than supporting a depressed person. π€¦ββοΈπ€¦ββοΈ
For someone so supoortive of a Physical ilness, he was truly lacking in understanding for an emotional one.
This is what happens when society mimimizes emotional problems, makes them not a priorty and even makes them taboo, NORMALIZING TREATING ONLY PHYSICAL ONES, and the ex like a clueless TYPICAL PERSON/Most people lacking the CRITICAL THINKING to question this societal faux news PR (&in his case, lacking empathy too).
.....I wonder if this is what the writer will make the message of the drama in the end: People get hurt by this normalization, and emotional illnesses should also be a priority too...
How is this a love story?? The FL is like I can make do with anyone, first come first served.Reason for breakup…
Does Being Supportive of a fiancee's illness ONLY include the Physical one??? Depression is also an illness, and that one he guilt-tripped her about, told her she had no right to be depressed essentially (saying you're not allowed to be sad, AMIDST FREAKING CANCER, WHO DOES THAT!??!π€¦ββοΈ) and should stop dragging him down with him (making her feel like an annoying burden only): he was a flaky "support", one who only HALFWAY supported while he flat out emotionally abused her over her depression illness. THAT FLAKY SUPPORT is the true reason she DUMPED HIM, and not the EXCUSE of him taking breaks to go to a party, she obviously was so HURT by the borderline ABUSIVE words he used about her depression, to the point she could no longer trust him to even tell the TRUE REASON she dumped him....
If you're so LOW EMPATHY that you cannot understand this without someone holding your hand and guiding your clueless head through this process then you're hopeless and even empathy classes wouldn't help you....
a healing journey for us indeed! I have never related to a kdrama character before as much as I did w/ seokryu…
In kdrama it's Seokryu, in cdrama it's the Will Love In Spring FL (excpet for some running away to different city shenigans she does later).
Also Incidentally I'm back in my hometown though for now like her for various reasons, but haven't run into any childhood friends or crushes lol, that part is maybe not so realistic part of the drama. π
...It's funny that I move back and 2024 everyone starts making dramas about moving back to hometown lol what's uo with that
.....As someone who also helds in most of everything away from support systems in a toxic manner like FL, This ep was HIGHLY TRIGGERING omg the way I cried! (I think I have quite simialr personality the the FL,reacting same way to stress by not really trusting others).
Right now the drama genre isn't melo or romcom, it's more like Healing genre, I can't wait to see FL open up to others, maybe it can encourage me (&others who can relate to this!) too! π
With only 7 more eps (+romance development), it seems likely that the healing and family understanding her will come across and cheap and not realistic. π€¦ββοΈ
I'll likely end up giving this drama a 8.5 and not a 10 rating like hoped, because it seems like ALOT of the plot development has unfortunately been misplaced at only the last Few eps of the drama rather than scattred throught drama....
I generally like the slower pace of this drama, BUT I do think all that happened in eps 8-9 (FL was sick twist + her secrets out to all) should have happend all by ep6 latest, cause now there's ALOT of overcoming her trauma required, how to have proper time for THAT + also the romance in 6-7 eps?!?
The ex was just Repeating her trauma with her family lack of emotional support for her!
Yet many people are all "whyyyy does fl NOT LEAN ON HER SUPPORT SYSTEM!?!....
....I ask: WHAT support system, the one hat Emotionally WASN'T THERE FOR HER throught her life, forced her into perfectionist high career perfomance, while ignoring her emotional needs?!?. And is STILL insisting she goes back the Fortune 500 company against her will....; It's NO WONDER FL PUSHES PEOPLE AWAY....
I only disagree with FL pushing also ML away, he HAS been supportive unlike her family. But looks like FL is too traumatized from her family's non-existent support, to even trust ML. π
Next eps, FL must overcome her trauma, thankfully her secrets are revelaed now, which will make it easier to happen.
Yet many people are all "whyyyy does fl NOT LEAN ON HER SUPPORT SYSTEM!?!....
....I ask: WHAT support system, then one hat Emotionally WASN'T THERE FOR HER throught her life, forced her into perfctionist high career perfomance, while ignoring her emotional needs?!?.....; It's NO WONDER FL PUSHES PEOPLE AWAY....
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When you put it like that, yes he is indeed annoying and controlling, what ONLY HIS OPINIONS, GOALS AND PLANS MATTERS according to him lol?!? π€¦ββοΈ It seems he'll by gone next ep.??π₯π₯
I have sympathy for her because I have a very similar personality to FL, Mixed in with similar family that expect me to be highly succesful and perfoming, making me understand FL's inner struggles easily: She's a person easily hurt if others don't give emotional support, and ALL HER FREAKING LIFE the family has held Perfectionist standards, supporting her only on paper, while ignoring her EMOTIONAL NEEDS. In return, she is too TRAUMATIZED to trust others.
However I think she is worse than me when it comes to not trusting others, I mean EVEN NOT TELLING ABOUT CANCER is a MINDBLOWING level of Insisiting on handling things alone and distrusti g others!!!
I hope now that things are out in the open FINALLY, that she can overcome her trauma and LEARN TO LEAN ON OTHERS.
NOT EVERYONE HAS THIS CAPABILITY, some people because of their personality, mixed in with trauma, are not capable of "just go through hardships of life together" and WILL PUSH people away.
She is not selfishly pushing people away, she is traumatized and INCAPABLE OF LEANING ON OTHERS.
Her family and friends aren't OWED to be leaned on, and if FL feels that she CANNOT LEAN ON THEM, then SOMETHING IS WRONG in how they treated her!!!
....BUT!: I'd like to add to this that FL SHOULD have trusted ML at least, and NOT TAKE OUT her family's lack of emotional support for her on ML. But it is what is is, looks like she is too traumatized. And indeed the WAY she rejected ML was too harch, I hope she apologizes later!
Also about the ex, he also one who didn't EMOTIONALLY support her enough, that's very quick way for someone with FL and mine personality to lose interest lol, also he is REPEATING her family trauma of emptionally unsupportive family that supports in other ways but not emotionally, it must be off putting for her....
so not surprised she got over him, it also helps that he has a super bland personality lol.
Even though SHE HERSELF pushes people away and won't let people supoort her, don't be surprised if later on she'll gain the biggest love for anyone emotionally supporting her, this PUSHING AWAY FROM SUPOORTS is trauma and not a CHOICE of behaviour by FL, i don't think even SHE understands that YET!
ML's ex MBTI is being super cool, fun and mature. (Probably a cool ENTJ or ENTP), I almost ship her with ML because she's such a cool person π
Edit: I just want to clarify, that there's some wonderful ISTJ, ESTJ & ISFJs out there, both fictional characters and real people, and that obviously not everyone lives up to this "boring" stereotype of these types, allthough some of you do, in case any ISTJ,ESTJ&ISFJs here thinks I'm shaming THEM.
But THIS GUY/CHARACTER definitely DOES live up to the Boring bland stereotype, He is BORINGNESS PERSONIFIED lol. End of my TED talk lol.
Don't get me wrong they were BOTH at fault for lack of supoort system, FL for unwillingness to tell her family and friends, her Ex for ALLOWING IT. FL doesn't want to tell people, and fiance is just "ok" with that?!? π€¦ββοΈπ€¦ββοΈ
Oh don't get me wrong, I didn't like FL when she did that, but clearly she wasn't feeling fully supported there.
What he SHOULD have done is make FL understand the importance of telling her family and friends, instead he was ENABLING FL Toxic insecurities which in turn brough the burden more on himself.
So many people are understanding of CARETAKERS of sick people, and NOT understanding of the sick people. Being sick and not able to do anything is also stressful, but sympathy only for the caretaker, because they're the one DOING thingsπ€¦ββοΈ
The way he kept saying "Seokry wants this, Seokryo needs this...." when he returned to get her back was indeed annoyingly controlling. THE WOMAN CAN SPEAK FOR HERSELF!
But more than that: his biggest flaw is just being plain MEGA BORING. π π
Personally for me FL's ex's personality is just to BLAND for me, what highly boring person lol, compared to ML's ex who has a nice and FUN personality, so it's understandable ML dated her, meanwhile FL's Ex is SOOOOOO BORING to the point it's like "Why did she even like him before LMAO?!? π π π "
We all have different needs in relationship, maybe mine (&FL's) involve more a emotionally supportive part need than to yours, that we'd easily dump a person who didn't provide that, REGARRDLESS of how supportive otherwise the person is. Words of affirmation maybe a bigger love language need for some than others.
It doesn't mean that the ex-fiance is a BAD Person, it does mean that they are NOT COMBATIBLE, since their emotional needs don't align.
Regardless of what you think of the FL, she DIDN'T FEEL SUPPORTED BY him, so she dumped him, "omg how dare you take a break with a party" just an excuse when you feel resentment over lack of Emotional support....
How to NOT treat a depressed person 101. π€¦ββοΈ
I was SHOCKED when he told her she was not allowed to be depressed, AMIDST FREAKING CANCER...!!! π€¦ββοΈπ€¦ββοΈ
Also him "not being dragged down with her" was apparntly more important than supporting a depressed person. π€¦ββοΈπ€¦ββοΈ
For someone so supoortive of a Physical ilness, he was truly lacking in understanding for an emotional one.
This is what happens when society mimimizes emotional problems, makes them not a priorty and even makes them taboo, NORMALIZING TREATING ONLY PHYSICAL ONES, and the ex like a clueless TYPICAL PERSON/Most people lacking the CRITICAL THINKING to question this societal faux news PR (&in his case, lacking empathy too).
.....I wonder if this is what the writer will make the message of the drama in the end: People get hurt by this normalization, and emotional illnesses should also be a priority too...
Depression is also an illness, and that one he guilt-tripped her about, told her she had no right to be depressed essentially (saying you're not allowed to be sad, AMIDST FREAKING CANCER, WHO DOES THAT!??!π€¦ββοΈ) and should stop dragging him down with him (making her feel like an annoying burden only): he was a flaky "support", one who only HALFWAY supported while he flat out emotionally abused her over her depression illness. THAT FLAKY SUPPORT is the true reason she DUMPED HIM, and not the EXCUSE of him taking breaks to go to a party, she obviously was so HURT by the borderline ABUSIVE words he used about her depression, to the point she could no longer trust him to even tell the TRUE REASON she dumped him....
If you're so LOW EMPATHY that you cannot understand this without someone holding your hand and guiding your clueless head through this process then you're hopeless and even empathy classes wouldn't help you....
in cdrama it's the Will Love In Spring FL (excpet for some running away to different city shenigans she does later).
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Incidentally I'm back in my hometown though for now like her for various reasons, but haven't run into any childhood friends or crushes lol, that part is maybe not so realistic part of the drama. π
...It's funny that I move back and 2024 everyone starts making dramas about moving back to hometown lol what's uo with that
Right now the drama genre isn't melo or romcom, it's more like Healing genre, I can't wait to see FL open up to others, maybe it can encourage me (&others who can relate to this!) too! π