I can already see which trajectory she's gonna have. She's gonna persist on that evil path, until one of them is mortally hurt and only then will she regain her senses... And we'll all be supposed to forgive her for what she did.
WELL I'M SORRY I WON'T unless she helps them elope. I get that she was hurt, but there's a certain line you shouldn't cross. She already ruined their first plan which was just perfect, but OK. She felt left out and didn't know.
Now that's another story.
I hope Saenkaew and Sasin, give her the evil eye and treat her as coldly as she. You wanna be unhappy? Well then be my guest. You're gonna lose the only two people who really cared about you, and you're too blind to see the poor dude who's pinning on your evil a** (pun non intended).
OH MY GOWD... Do I watch today and tomorrow's episode? I'm telling you guys, the preview for episode 10 is G.O.D A.W.F.U.L. as if episode 9 wasn't already difficult to watch... The AngstðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜
Also Pin... Pin... 🔫🔫🔫🔫🔫🔫
For the moment it's a water gun but I might change my weapon next episode given that terrible preview. I'm dying.
At this point, everybody knows (like even Sasin's musician friends), they're all just pretending they don't... Except Pin of course...
Totally predictable. She's turning nasty as fudge.
Hopefully she calms down before it's too late. At this point, Sasin and Saenkaew don't have bad feelings towards her, but if you turn too evil, they'll both end up hating you, and you'll be left alone. The confrontation scene was really horrible. At first I felt empathetic... But then she crossed a line, and now I just hate her.
BUT! Let's give her some time to calm down and come back to her senses.
I am sorry that people accused you of being a troll. The community usually is very defensive when a drama they…
It was more a package deal so to speak. I really enjoyed the drama Hidden Love and thought the follow up would be in the same vibe. That was WAY before I knew this drama would come out. You know the usual "people who bought this bought this" which is how I came to buy it. Chinese is one of the language I'm learning and as a Bookworm... I tend to just pile up books I intend to read (but which I can't yet).
I haven't read it yet since I'm stuck with another Chinese book I started a bit more than a year ago (yes I'm SLOW but again I'm still learning the language) so I can't really judge.
For me, the fault doesn't necessarily lies with the story but rather with its execution. It looks like one of these novels where the characters have lots of inner thoughts which transcribes well in a book but not in a drama. You can't have people always talking in their head, that would be weird. Also Chinese novels have way less censorship so the story might also flaw more naturally.
PS: I think 10s really depends on which viewers you come accross. Personally my 9s to 10s included dont necessarily mean I consider these shows perfect. Just that I love them but that I totally understand if some people didn't like it for whatever reasons. One such example is recently aired "Legend of the Female General". I absolutely adored that show... But some people gave it a terrible rating for a variety of very valid reasons which I can't fault them for... but which I really didn't care about.
Hence the fact that I would never bother to attack anyone who didn't like a show I did. Excluding trolls and zealous fans, most of the time, the critics are completely honest and valid... It's just a matter of "are these flaws preventing you from enjoying the show or not?".
4. So I saw that post below about the last episode being 2 hours long... and err Are they going to drag the angst until the last minute or what?
I'm already dying here! Sasin and Saenkaew are killing me with their sad puppy eyes every time they look at each other, do they intend to make us suffer that long? I can't handle it!
That extra one hour better be for 1 hour of pure fanservice with our main couple being happy, otherwise I'm sending One31 the bill for my well-needed therapy sessionS.
The world is becoming increasingly uglier, Dramaland is my escape . YOU BETTER NOT RUIN THAT for me SHOW!
When I saw it on coming soon section of Viki I was so happyyyyyyy🥹. And fr sad ending will be tough but I am…
Same. I'd rather be mentally prepared. I watched TTEOTM as it aired and the ending crushed me. Definitely going to watch it... but if it's a sad ending, I'll wait to be in the right mood before risking my sensible heart.
Well, welcome to urban drama 🤗 seriously why you didn’t skip that dying part? They are introducing their…
Loooooooooool! Could have been true if that part had been in episode 25... Unless the Censor Board watch in reverse.... But it's true the first half of episode 26 was such a blast!!! Also very hot per Chinese standard I have to admit... I was VERY PLEASANTLY surprised 🔥🔥🔥
Well, welcome to urban drama 🤗 seriously why you didn’t skip that dying part? They are introducing their…
I know. I SHOULD. For the life of me I can't watch thing at 2x speed nor can I skip scenes... Every time I try, I just fear I missed something and go back and end up wasting even more time. I ended up taking 2 hours to watch that episode. I would pause and then do something else, then go back etc.
I don't mind a little of Chinese culture but seriously over 30 fudging minutes? Kill me now!
It's not my first Modern C drama though... But it's true I don't watch a lot, I prefer their costume dramas because their Modern Romance always tend to drag a bit in my opinion... But THAT draggy? Honestly it's a first for me.
Oh my God I'm dying... Like most people I think the second half looses steam compared to the first one ( and that's not even taking into account the unrealistic timeline) but it still had its moments. If I remember well, episode 16 when they both meet the Russian husband and his Chinese wife was pure comedy... The first half of episode 26 was hilarious, best drunken scene EVER in the history of drunken scenes in ALL the dramas I've seen regardless of the country...
BUUUUUUUUUT
EPISODE 27 IS SUCH A BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORE I'm tired of all the documentary about the dying process. I'm watching A DRAAAAAAMA not a fudging documentary!
I mean, It's not uninteresting in itself... IF I was travelling there or wanting to learn about it... But I'm not here for all that jazz! We've been focusing on the business aspect which is seriously tiring me out at this point but now I have to learn about dying techniques on top? Fudging Christ!
Also... The rate of Youth unemployment is sky-rocketting. Don't tell me they couldn't find somebody to take care of their company's accounts except for that sleezy ex... Qiao Lin was supposed to be this tough girl... turns out the real badass is Xu Yan and her older sister is a doormat.
People generally rate after seeing one episode. Then they reduce or increase it later as the episodes continue…
Nah you're right. Most people rate AFTER the show has ended. But then you have those who are usually into "fanwars" who rate per episode to boost or tank a show for various reasons, most of the time fans or anti-fans... but sometimes It can be political or religious ( such as the recently aired Genie Make a Wish).
Usually a couple of days AFTER the show has ended you can see the ratings going up or down since people who were watching and doing the most sensible thing which is rating a show AFTER it has ended vote en masse.
BUT as Kn0cturnal has written below, MDL ratings don't mean anything anymore these days. You shouldn't even bother to even attempt to understand how it works. Some people are truly crazy. Creating fake accounts just to upvote or downvote some shows.
The World's average IQ has been going down since the end of the 80s (grossly, depends on which article you read) and you can see the effects on this platform.
For instance, take one drama I'm about to finish... Recently aired "Love's Ambition". The main actress is really popular... She obviously has anti-fans. So the overall per episode ratings started very strong for this one.... Around 8.9 if I'm not mistaken, then the rating when down to 8.3.
Could be because of the quality of the show itself... but then some very negative and misleading reviews ( to anyone WATCHING the show) started to appear when the show didn't even finish airing. So people looked it up.
Turns out most of these reviews were written from fake accounts whose owners had rated every single drama this actress acted in 1.
So what did some of MDL members do? Laugh at how stupid some people are and move on with their lives?
NOPE. They created their own fake accounts to post fake positive reviews and rate 10 every single drama this actress starred in to "counterbalance".
Conclusion: I still believe the majority votes based on their opinion of the show but any ratings for a show that is currently airing or extremely recent doesn't mean anything since fanwars on this website are rampant. Don't pay attention to it, it's a waste of time. Comment section are more useful... as long as it doesn't degenerate into some political or religious warzone ( again Genie, Make a Wish).
Omg yes, I hate GuoGuo’s character (now I’m on episode 19 and I’m still annoyed by her). Xiao Tang started…
Chen Guo gets way less screen time after a while... You're at the second half so from what I remember the focus is going to be the match and how their new team gets new members.... your appreciation will depend on what type of viewer you are ^^
Plus looking after her granny, and ML son......all the while a change of designer outfits in each scene, perfect…
Lol Yeah I forgot to add that one. Honestly who does that? Like literally given the size of her apartment, WHERE THE HELL are all of these clothes stored? Also if she really that busy, she wouldn't have time to change clothes and makeup every single scene... let alone every single day. Busy women wear t-shirts and jeans and only bother with fashion when they meet investors, journalists or potential clients...
But again this is a parallel universe, days are longer, magical closets exist and make up and clothes can be changed at a snap of one's fingers. So who am I to complain?
Omg yes, I hate GuoGuo’s character (now I’m on episode 19 and I’m still annoyed by her). Xiao Tang started…
Lol. Chen Guo does get better at some point... BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUT not gonna spoil... As I was finally not finding her so annoying, she did something dumber than dumb and still ANNOYED me. This being said that only happened once after she gets better, you'll see.
Xiao Tang is the same. She does get better... But her arrogance is still gonna cause trouble down the line... But to fair, literally almost ALL characters except for Ye Qiu, Yi Fan and the nerd suffer from some ego issues so she's not worse than the rest...
I've decided to accept that this drama is happening in a parallel universe where 1 month lasts at least half a year in our universe otherwise I'm gonna lose my sanity with how ridiculous the timeline is.
Literally quitting one's work as a host, finding a new place to live and move, then finding a job to stream indoor, then stream outdoor, then maintaining good relations with ChenChen making herself available whenever, entertaining Hao Ming's potential business partners, launching a clothing company with all the red tapes it requires + finding financements + making promotional videos + launching at least 2 collections + starting very small but managing to become very big thanks to the right investor and moving headquarters from an apartment to a whole floor and hiring I don't know how many employees + facing I don't know how many financial troubles + entering a clothe competition etc. ?
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
AH! I forgot she still takes care of the demented mother in law of one of Hao Ming's business partner offscreen.
The show is still entertaining but I just can't take it seriously anymore. I understand they wanted to keep all of that under the "cooling off period" to rise the stakes so to speak, but the suspension of disbelief is literally through the... through nothing actually, it's lost in the vast void of our universe.
3. The parents came to pick up grandma. Dad says he will sell his business and move in to take care of her. As…
Like Naa wrote, she's open to forgive them... But based on what she and you wrote... They haven't properly apologized... I'll have to see if they even look a bit repentent but if not for that honestly... that's a disappointing point for me.
1. Pretended to commit financial fraud, used that to get Qiao Lin to break up with Yu Yi Ming and get back with…
OH THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!! Ok I can now wait for the finale with a calm state of mind.... I'm not entirely satisfied with points 1... and ESPECIALLY 3 ( I wanted the parents to properly apologize) and 5 ( I don't know what I want for her but getting away with everything she's done big NOPE). But Ok. You can't have everything I guess... I'll see for point 8 then.^^
Overall a satisfying ending even if not entirely on certain points but maybe it was just impossible to get a truly satisfying ending on everything if not for adding another 10 episodes and it would have ruined the pace.
Thank you again for taking the time to give me a detailed reply🤗
1. What did Lin Tao do and how was it resolved? 2. Did our leads divorce or not? 3. Did Xu Yan patch things up with her parents or is their relationship completely ruined with no redemption in the end? 4. Did the sister end up with Yu Yi Ming in the end (I read a weird comment below)? 5. What happened with Miss Cleavage aka Fang Lei? 6. Did Xu Yan's business become successful? 7. Did Hao Ming join the Directors' board? 8. What happened to Chen Chen?
THANK YOU VERY MUCH in advance!
I'm currently catching up started from episode 24 but episode 32 won't be available on Viki... before next Thursday based on my calculation and I'm too curious to wait.
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WHAT A NIGHTMARE.
I can already see which trajectory she's gonna have. She's gonna persist on that evil path, until one of them is mortally hurt and only then will she regain her senses... And we'll all be supposed to forgive her for what she did.
WELL I'M SORRY I WON'T unless she helps them elope. I get that she was hurt, but there's a certain line you shouldn't cross. She already ruined their first plan which was just perfect, but OK. She felt left out and didn't know.
Now that's another story.
I hope Saenkaew and Sasin, give her the evil eye and treat her as coldly as she. You wanna be unhappy? Well then be my guest. You're gonna lose the only two people who really cared about you, and you're too blind to see the poor dude who's pinning on your evil a** (pun non intended).
The AngstðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜
Also Pin... Pin... 🔫🔫🔫🔫🔫🔫
For the moment it's a water gun but I might change my weapon next episode given that terrible preview.
I'm dying.
At this point, everybody knows (like even Sasin's musician friends), they're all just pretending they don't... Except Pin of course...
Totally predictable. She's turning nasty as fudge.
Hopefully she calms down before it's too late. At this point, Sasin and Saenkaew don't have bad feelings towards her, but if you turn too evil, they'll both end up hating you, and you'll be left alone. The confrontation scene was really horrible. At first I felt empathetic... But then she crossed a line, and now I just hate her.
BUT! Let's give her some time to calm down and come back to her senses.
I haven't read it yet since I'm stuck with another Chinese book I started a bit more than a year ago (yes I'm SLOW but again I'm still learning the language) so I can't really judge.
For me, the fault doesn't necessarily lies with the story but rather with its execution. It looks like one of these novels where the characters have lots of inner thoughts which transcribes well in a book but not in a drama. You can't have people always talking in their head, that would be weird. Also Chinese novels have way less censorship so the story might also flaw more naturally.
PS: I think 10s really depends on which viewers you come accross. Personally my 9s to 10s included dont necessarily mean I consider these shows perfect. Just that I love them but that I totally understand if some people didn't like it for whatever reasons. One such example is recently aired "Legend of the Female General". I absolutely adored that show... But some people gave it a terrible rating for a variety of very valid reasons which I can't fault them for... but which I really didn't care about.
Hence the fact that I would never bother to attack anyone who didn't like a show I did. Excluding trolls and zealous fans, most of the time, the critics are completely honest and valid... It's just a matter of "are these flaws preventing you from enjoying the show or not?".
1. If we don't get a Happy Ending, I'm gonna need therapy.
2. If it's not a HE, I vote for double suicide. No better middle finger than condemning all these people to eternal regret.
3. I had put my judgment on hold for Pin due to the fact that, as I had already said, it's easy to be all sweet when everything is going your way, it's another when you realize it's not... ESPECIALLY when your fiancé is giving lingering looks to another MAN which I'm sure, for women back then, must have been shocking so I'm not surprised... but I'm really surprised by how increasingly ANNOYED I get with each passing episode nonetheless.
(Personally if my fiancé rejects me for that reason, I would be happy in my misery. If he's in love with a man, that means it was game over from the start, and I had no chance whatsoever so not gonna dwell on it but maybe that's just me)
4. So I saw that post below about the last episode being 2 hours long... and err Are they going to drag the angst until the last minute or what?
I'm already dying here! Sasin and Saenkaew are killing me with their sad puppy eyes every time they look at each other, do they intend to make us suffer that long? I can't handle it!
That extra one hour better be for 1 hour of pure fanservice with our main couple being happy, otherwise I'm sending One31 the bill for my well-needed therapy sessionS.
The world is becoming increasingly uglier, Dramaland is my escape . YOU BETTER NOT RUIN THAT for me SHOW!
But it's true the first half of episode 26 was such a blast!!! Also very hot per Chinese standard I have to admit... I was VERY PLEASANTLY surprised 🔥🔥🔥
I don't mind a little of Chinese culture but seriously over 30 fudging minutes? Kill me now!
It's not my first Modern C drama though... But it's true I don't watch a lot, I prefer their costume dramas because their Modern Romance always tend to drag a bit in my opinion... But THAT draggy? Honestly it's a first for me.
Like most people I think the second half looses steam compared to the first one ( and that's not even taking into account the unrealistic timeline) but it still had its moments.
If I remember well, episode 16 when they both meet the Russian husband and his Chinese wife was pure comedy... The first half of episode 26 was hilarious, best drunken scene EVER in the history of drunken scenes in ALL the dramas I've seen regardless of the country...
BUUUUUUUUUT
EPISODE 27 IS SUCH A BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORE
I'm tired of all the documentary about the dying process. I'm watching A DRAAAAAAMA not a fudging documentary!
I mean, It's not uninteresting in itself... IF I was travelling there or wanting to learn about it... But I'm not here for all that jazz! We've been focusing on the business aspect which is seriously tiring me out at this point but now I have to learn about dying techniques on top? Fudging Christ!
Also... The rate of Youth unemployment is sky-rocketting. Don't tell me they couldn't find somebody to take care of their company's accounts except for that sleezy ex... Qiao Lin was supposed to be this tough girl... turns out the real badass is Xu Yan and her older sister is a doormat.
Usually a couple of days AFTER the show has ended you can see the ratings going up or down since people who were watching and doing the most sensible thing which is rating a show AFTER it has ended vote en masse.
BUT as Kn0cturnal has written below, MDL ratings don't mean anything anymore these days. You shouldn't even bother to even attempt to understand how it works. Some people are truly crazy. Creating fake accounts just to upvote or downvote some shows.
The World's average IQ has been going down since the end of the 80s (grossly, depends on which article you read) and you can see the effects on this platform.
For instance, take one drama I'm about to finish... Recently aired "Love's Ambition". The main actress is really popular... She obviously has anti-fans. So the overall per episode ratings started very strong for this one.... Around 8.9 if I'm not mistaken, then the rating when down to 8.3.
Could be because of the quality of the show itself... but then some very negative and misleading reviews ( to anyone WATCHING the show) started to appear when the show didn't even finish airing. So people looked it up.
Turns out most of these reviews were written from fake accounts whose owners had rated every single drama this actress acted in 1.
So what did some of MDL members do?
Laugh at how stupid some people are and move on with their lives?
NOPE. They created their own fake accounts to post fake positive reviews and rate 10 every single drama this actress starred in to "counterbalance".
Conclusion: I still believe the majority votes based on their opinion of the show but any ratings for a show that is currently airing or extremely recent doesn't mean anything since fanwars on this website are rampant. Don't pay attention to it, it's a waste of time. Comment section are more useful... as long as it doesn't degenerate into some political or religious warzone ( again Genie, Make a Wish).
But again this is a parallel universe, days are longer, magical closets exist and make up and clothes can be changed at a snap of one's fingers. So who am I to complain?
Xiao Tang is the same. She does get better... But her arrogance is still gonna cause trouble down the line... But to fair, literally almost ALL characters except for Ye Qiu, Yi Fan and the nerd suffer from some ego issues so she's not worse than the rest...
Literally quitting one's work as a host, finding a new place to live and move, then finding a job to stream indoor, then stream outdoor, then maintaining good relations with ChenChen making herself available whenever, entertaining Hao Ming's potential business partners, launching a clothing company with all the red tapes it requires + finding financements + making promotional videos + launching at least 2 collections + starting very small but managing to become very big thanks to the right investor and moving headquarters from an apartment to a whole floor and hiring I don't know how many employees + facing I don't know how many financial troubles + entering a clothe competition etc. ?
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
AH! I forgot she still takes care of the demented mother in law of one of Hao Ming's business partner offscreen.
The show is still entertaining but I just can't take it seriously anymore. I understand they wanted to keep all of that under the "cooling off period" to rise the stakes so to speak, but the suspension of disbelief is literally through the... through nothing actually, it's lost in the vast void of our universe.
Ok I can now wait for the finale with a calm state of mind.... I'm not entirely satisfied with points 1... and ESPECIALLY 3 ( I wanted the parents to properly apologize) and 5 ( I don't know what I want for her but getting away with everything she's done big NOPE). But Ok. You can't have everything I guess... I'll see for point 8 then.^^
Overall a satisfying ending even if not entirely on certain points but maybe it was just impossible to get a truly satisfying ending on everything if not for adding another 10 episodes and it would have ruined the pace.
Thank you again for taking the time to give me a detailed reply🤗
1. What did Lin Tao do and how was it resolved?
2. Did our leads divorce or not?
3. Did Xu Yan patch things up with her parents or is their relationship completely ruined with no redemption in the end?
4. Did the sister end up with Yu Yi Ming in the end (I read a weird comment below)?
5. What happened with Miss Cleavage aka Fang Lei?
6. Did Xu Yan's business become successful?
7. Did Hao Ming join the Directors' board?
8. What happened to Chen Chen?
THANK YOU VERY MUCH in advance!
I'm currently catching up started from episode 24 but episode 32 won't be available on Viki... before next Thursday based on my calculation and I'm too curious to wait.
SO HAPPY this is coming to Viki! The Trailer looks sensational!
Hopefully this one ends on a Happy Ending (... I can't handle another TTEOTM repeat ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜
(The trailer screams sad ending though 😨)