Put it on hold at episode 10, should i continue this one? What ep will this get better?
I'm at episode 26. My take. Honestly the pace is terrible up to episode 19. If you manage to keep on till then ( and mind you I also struggled) the plot gets really engaging from that point on.
Oh... I must be really losing some brain cells become I finally got the analogy with Snow White... after 11 episodes. Lol 🤣 So K2 is the Hunter, Choi Yoo Jin is the Step Mother (and has a magic mirror for that matter) and obviously Anna is Snow White.
Obviously they changed some key elements in the overall plot but the basic premise is literally the same.
Well that explains why Anna is so bland. Never got the hype with Snow White seriously. Out of all the classic fairytales it's my least favorite, no wonder Anna is such a doormat.
Lol is there some form of disguised LGBTQ+ content in here? Yoo Jin's secretary looks sus. Her undying devotion to her boss looks... weird. Also her obsession with getting rid of Jae Ha.
1. Ji Chang Wook doesn't always pick the best projects... but honestly, no matter the country, he is the BEST at doing the "man head over heels in love" look. , honestly, he always gets me. Those eyes my God, I want a man who looks at me like that.
2. I think most people don't like the FL because she's this typical 2000s doe eyed damsel in distress heroine that has no agency and needs to be saved constantly.
It's a stapple of that era to have the dark hero falling for the innocent girl whose innocence he wants to protect and reminds him of a time when he himself didn't look at the world as cynically.
On the other hand, Yoo Jin is way more layered and interesting than Anna. Can't blame people for wanting that K2-Yoo Jin ship to sail since she's pretty badass and has more working brain cells... That would have given a great enemies-to-lovers arc right here but it was never meant to be.
This being said, I've got to admit, I miss these stories where the ML was in all protective mode and FL had absolutely nothing to do but be pretty and naive bringing some well needed innocence and light in tired, rugged and cynical heros. I miss the super cool dude turning totally uncool and shy regarding every single little interactions he has with his crush.
She's a one note bland and uninteresting mary-sue who has close to nothing going for her except her innocence and pretty face but the romance is pure. If she had more spunk, that could have been a romance I could have rooted for but instead I'm just either bored or annoyed whenever they're together.
I rarely critique a BL series. I’ve never wanted to turn entertainment into a research paper. But for the past…
Thank you for your insightful comment... As you wrote for me the end game which was Sasin and Saenkaew being together is what matters most...
But I have to admit that I still feel a bit bitter about the ending ( I watched live for literally the whole run of the series and then rewatched the episodes with subs) which is why I've yet to watch episode 11 and 12 with subs. I need to settle my emotions because I don't want to hate-watch the last two episodes ranting about how unsatisfied I am with the way things turned out and how little of our main couple we saw in that last 2 hour episode. Lots of drama, almost no fanservice ( and I usually hate those, but I needed some sweet moments after these weeks of mental torture but alas!).
I have to remember that the journey is more important than the destination and that it's not that much of a big deal if the ending wasn't up to par. It rarely is anyway.
Like Diva 70, I feel emotionally drained and I think the way you rationalize that - to me - unsatisfying ending ( though in terms on non-accountability, I've seen WAY WORSE from these Lakhorns) through the lense of culture vs narrative logic is on point...
But it doesn't matter, my heart can't accept it.
I will probably watch the last two episodes by Sunday though... and after that... next stop like Diva70 is Khemjira ^^
It's Halloween next week, so right on point, the last episode airs this weekend. Perfect timing to binge :D
Yeah that reincarnation thing is really stupid but I think it's because it's one the stapple of Buddhist belief and communism has never really been friendly with whichever religion for that matter.
Sometimes the censorship works in favor of the story though. They changed the plot for the Double due to that reincarnation problem but it actually served the story in my opinion... Though... that was the exception not the rule sadly.
But yeah I'm like you. I check for sad endings. I don't mind bittersweet ones but sad is a no-no UNLESS it's universally loved... But for Moon Lovers, honestly the ML has a tragic past and there's a layer of sadness that you can feel throughout the drama and I hadn't even reached the most tragic part, so for me dropping it was the right call.
Yeah there was a follow up to that series called Forever and Ever . Basically both are reincarnated but only the FL remembers the past. Due to censorship in the drama, she "dreamed" the past and wrote a book about it. 2 other key characters are also reincarnated though we understand who they are only at the end. I wasn't really in the mood to watch it when I started it to be honest so I dropped it after about 10 episodes... I still watched some key moments to spoil myself the story though... But honestly the fact that they removed the reincarnation part and made it a "dream" really ruins the emotional impact in my opinion.
Nevertheless, the trauma was too deep for me. The ending was sad... but also insanely cruel as well so I don't think I'll ever watch the following series even if I know it's a happy ending in modern time.
You know I would have partially agreed with your comment if the story had been set in the 19th century... But…
Thank you ^^ You too. Truly inspiring stories there. It's also why I quit. Sometimes you come across stories like these of people who had it way harder than you and still made it so there's no excuse to wallow in self pity when you are in easier circumstances. 😎
Accountability is not a stapple of these Thai dramas Alas! But I was psychologically prepared so I'm neither surprised…
For me wrong is wrong. It had nothing to with traditions. It's just something I've come to accept. This might change in the future. When I started to watch K dramas 20 years ago, it was also the same BS about forgiving no matter how much you were wronged especially in their family dramas.
I can't say they don't do it anymore but I've noticed it's way less the case now. If a character is wronged, you can be sure there's gonna be payback. People are wronged all the time in real life and you cannot retaliate most of the time so getting that catharsis through dramas is important but lots of these family dramas just don't deliver on that front.
I don't like it... But since every time I start a Lakorn I'm expecting it now the blow is more bearable.
also I wanna know, mostly those who knows a lot about BLs might know it. GMM always make the same couple again…
Depends specific BL content but Pearl and Peak have already acted in other shows as straight actors. They might get another project together but apart from a very small set of actors One 31 is not into the habit of pairing actors for life. That's just not something they do. Be happy if there's one but this channel is targeted at an older audience so they don't produce as many BLs as GMMTV.
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So K2 is the Hunter, Choi Yoo Jin is the Step Mother (and has a magic mirror for that matter) and obviously Anna is Snow White.
Obviously they changed some key elements in the overall plot but the basic premise is literally the same.
Well that explains why Anna is so bland. Never got the hype with Snow White seriously. Out of all the classic fairytales it's my least favorite, no wonder Anna is such a doormat.
2. I think most people don't like the FL because she's this typical 2000s doe eyed damsel in distress heroine that has no agency and needs to be saved constantly.
It's a stapple of that era to have the dark hero falling for the innocent girl whose innocence he wants to protect and reminds him of a time when he himself didn't look at the world as cynically.
On the other hand, Yoo Jin is way more layered and interesting than Anna. Can't blame people for wanting that K2-Yoo Jin ship to sail since she's pretty badass and has more working brain cells... That would have given a great enemies-to-lovers arc right here but it was never meant to be.
This being said, I've got to admit, I miss these stories where the ML was in all protective mode and FL had absolutely nothing to do but be pretty and naive bringing some well needed innocence and light in tired, rugged and cynical heros. I miss the super cool dude turning totally uncool and shy regarding every single little interactions he has with his crush.
She's a one note bland and uninteresting mary-sue who has close to nothing going for her except her innocence and pretty face but the romance is pure. If she had more spunk, that could have been a romance I could have rooted for but instead I'm just either bored or annoyed whenever they're together.
The main draw is the ML not the bland FL.
But I have to admit that I still feel a bit bitter about the ending ( I watched live for literally the whole run of the series and then rewatched the episodes with subs) which is why I've yet to watch episode 11 and 12 with subs. I need to settle my emotions because I don't want to hate-watch the last two episodes ranting about how unsatisfied I am with the way things turned out and how little of our main couple we saw in that last 2 hour episode. Lots of drama, almost no fanservice ( and I usually hate those, but I needed some sweet moments after these weeks of mental torture but alas!).
I have to remember that the journey is more important than the destination and that it's not that much of a big deal if the ending wasn't up to par. It rarely is anyway.
Like Diva 70, I feel emotionally drained and I think the way you rationalize that - to me - unsatisfying ending ( though in terms on non-accountability, I've seen WAY WORSE from these Lakhorns) through the lense of culture vs narrative logic is on point...
But it doesn't matter, my heart can't accept it.
I will probably watch the last two episodes by Sunday though... and after that... next stop like Diva70 is Khemjira ^^
It's Halloween next week, so right on point, the last episode airs this weekend. Perfect timing to binge :D
Sometimes the censorship works in favor of the story though. They changed the plot for the Double due to that reincarnation problem but it actually served the story in my opinion... Though... that was the exception not the rule sadly.
But yeah I'm like you. I check for sad endings. I don't mind bittersweet ones but sad is a no-no UNLESS it's universally loved... But for Moon Lovers, honestly the ML has a tragic past and there's a layer of sadness that you can feel throughout the drama and I hadn't even reached the most tragic part, so for me dropping it was the right call.
Nevertheless, the trauma was too deep for me. The ending was sad... but also insanely cruel as well so I don't think I'll ever watch the following series even if I know it's a happy ending in modern time.
I knew they were going to license it given they've already the 2 previous series in the same universe
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Such a waste of talent...
I can't say they don't do it anymore but I've noticed it's way less the case now. If a character is wronged, you can be sure there's gonna be payback. People are wronged all the time in real life and you cannot retaliate most of the time so getting that catharsis through dramas is important but lots of these family dramas just don't deliver on that front.
I don't like it... But since every time I start a Lakorn I'm expecting it now the blow is more bearable.