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Replying to sangana Mar 24, 2024
hey i feel dumb asking this but is oh sun yeong the mistress's real/previous identity? I'm so confused I didnt…
According to the private investigator, the woman who now goes by the name of "Moh Seol Hee" (aka Mistress Bitch) is really Oh Sun Yeong. OSE served time in prison under that name and was presumably released under that name and then supposedly "died" 30 years ago.

We don't know when she was released from prison and we don't know when she began to use the name "Moh Seol Hee". We don't know if there was a real Moh seol Hee" or if it's a brand new name. But an identification switch when someone died (accident? murder?) would be rather delicious plot twist. time will tell.
Replying to JoaoBraga Mar 24, 2024
Intense !!!i Think they will be tricking everyone to think they're against each other , and they will clean the…
Re: Seo cheol's child - maybe. . . but the child is 1 years old and 2ML only recently returned to Korea (publicly, at least). They were close in the orphanage - so, either close friends or siblings (definitely sibling vibe more than lover vibe between them).
Replying to Vniverse Mar 24, 2024
Thanks for this. Basically it's a story of Mistress Bitch's Doings.
Yes - but we don't know why yet. I don't believe Eun Seong is Gramps child because she was known by a different name at the time he was born. And there would be a big ewwww factor if he is truly pursuing Hae-in romantically.

But she wants revenge for something - OR, someone else (unknown) is part of the conspiracy - the one who helped get a new identification, etc. Maybe that Chairman Yeom we keep hearing about. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Replying to sleepyelle Mar 24, 2024
Title Queen of Tears Spoiler
HhhhhHhNnnnNNNGGHSHSLDHS dude. There’s an actual lump in my throat from watching this. I’m having trouble…
I think Hae-in will decide: we are going to stay married but we are going to be separate. No way will she agree to a divorce at which point he would need to sue in court (very pubic). Not going to happen. w/r/t to your comment re: Dae-hye (brother's wife) it looks like she is enjoying her secure life very much and doesn't really want to walk away "with her share" - especially if that would mean leaving her baby behind. I'm wondering if she is Grace's daughter? here's the tvN preview for episode 7:

The aftermath of the divorce papers is intense.
Hyun Woo is so shocked that Hyun Woo decides to do something else for Hae-in.
This leads to greater challenges at home and at work.
Meanwhile, Eun-sung's plan is well underway, and Hyun-woo fights back!
On Queen of Tears Mar 24, 2024
Here's the timeline for the past history. This is for viewers (1) who are confused about events in the past because they don't want to watch the villains when they are on screen and (ii) who, like me, are really enjoying the family/corporate intrigue because Hyun-woo will be the hero in the end - count on it 😊

1989 (34 years ago): “Oh sun-yeong” was imprisoned for adultery and gave birth behind bars. Yoon Eun Yeong is 34 years old. Do the math.

1993 (30 years ago): Oh Sun-yeong “died” and “Moh Seol Hee” (Mistress Bitch) became Chairman’s mistress.

1998 (25 years ago): Hai-in’s older brother died in a “mysterious boat accident”.

July 1, 2000 (23 years ago) – (i) Chairman visited Evergreen Hope Orphanage and he was accompanied by Hae-in, Soo-cheol and Mistress Bitch. He gave a talk about Napoleon and a young Cheon Da-hye presented him with a wreath, while Mistress Bitch looked attentively at her. [Dae Hye age is a puzzle but if she is 5 years older than her husband, then she was 15 years old back then.] Eun Seung, a Queens scholarship recipient, was 11 years old.

July 6, 2000, Eun-seung killed a dog

2002 (21 years ago): At the age of 13, Eun-seong was adopted by a US couple [who later VERY conveniently dies right before he graduated from University}.

2003 (20 years ago): Events really begin to happen! Grandmother Yang Mi-suk (who drank like a fish) died of a heart attack. Uncle Hong Beom-seok (Hae-in's uncle) was accused of embezzlement and expelled from Queens. Mistress Bitch moved into Queens Town.

2006/2007 (17 years ago): At (age 16?), Baek Hyun Woo transferred to a Korea-Japan Foreign Language High School highschool in Seoul. [Was he a Queens Scholarship recipient?] Hong Hae In (age 15?) left the Korea-Japan Foreign Language High School moved to the USA to continue her education.

2008? (15 years ago? Need to re-check): Grace Goh/Advisor Goh began to work for Hong family.
Replying to Anonymous_user Mar 24, 2024
the possible plot twist after this episodeEun sung is maybe an illegimate child of that damn mistress
The dates match up exactly, so yes - it's definite.
Replying to AnastasiaWun Mar 24, 2024
Title Queen of Tears Spoiler
#1 but Patriarch Hong's GF couldn't endure it anymore and had to beat up his daughter#2 brother's wife is the…
I'm putting together a time-line (and will post later), but 2ML causing sibling's death is unlikely since the brother died before the Hong family visited the orphanage.
Replying to snowfallsslowly Mar 24, 2024
I love Hae In and I understand her sense of betrayal but wanting Hyun Woo to beg for forgiveness is baffling to…
Hyun-woo has apologized (mianhae - I'm sorry) over and over again. She has never said those words.

Which, of course, is intentional by the writer.
Replying to Kathryn_51 Mar 24, 2024
Mom is shocked because they find a "bugging device" in Chairman's room. In the preview, there is also a scene…
Here you go: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbAb-PSsmcc

It covers multiple episodes, many scenes that we haven't seen yet. I'm looking forward to the scenes with Hae-in's family in Youndo-ri but have no idea when they may occur. 😊😊
Replying to hclvyj Mar 24, 2024
Are we, the viewers, supposed to know or be aware of what Eun Song and the matchmaker are trying to do? And what…
From Episode 4, Eun Seung, Matchmaker Grace and Director Jo (the man who resigned from Queens after 20 years of service) clearly hope to take down the Chairman (embezzlement) and take over Queens (controlling stock). Although it hasn't been spelled out in detail, Eun Seong seems bent upon revenge, Grace and Director Jo hope to make a bundle of money. They may or may not be buddies at the end. 😂😂😂

We still don't know why Eun Seong is hell bent on revenge, but my pet theory is that when he killed the dog 23 years ago, his Queens scholarship was yanked out from under him and he was adopted out to the USA (assuming that part of his story is accurate).
Replying to JunWarren Mar 24, 2024
Title Queen of Tears Spoiler
I was annoyed with the ML because it seems the FL really wanted to sleep together with him but at this time his…
Mom is shocked because they find a "bugging device" in Chairman's room. In the preview, there is also a scene of them trying to open up Hyun-woos' safe in his room - but I'm holding onto my theory that the divorce papers never left Hae-in's bedroom.

Saturday rating of 10,9% is highest Saturday thus far; Saturday is always lower than Sunday.

She's wearing her wedding ring in the final scenes. I think some folks are talking about one rather emotional scene (which may be a flashback or in the future) in the 3 minute trailer/preview that was released prior to the drama debut. There is a scene - an emotional scene - in that preview where they are not wearing rings.

Keep the faith! 😊
Replying to Kathryn_51 Mar 23, 2024
Title Queen of Tears Spoiler
To quote Auntie: OH MY Gosh, the pre-release for Episode 6.The queen cracks down on her husband who is flirting…
Hyunwoo and Haein having a great time in Germany.
Even as they spend time together, Hyun Woo struggles to get Hae In to get treatment.
Meanwhile, a bugging device is found in Mandae's room, and the whole house is turned upside down.
Hae-in, who was receiving treatment in Germany, suddenly disappears in front of Hyun-woo's eyes!
Replying to PrinceHenry30 Mar 23, 2024
In terms Of Sat epi I guess if I’m not wrong it still the highest Rating for QOT
You're not wrong. 😊😊😊
Replying to fariw Mar 23, 2024
Is Eunseong haein's ex or a close friend from past
It's ambiguous. Her rival (Royal Dept. store) said "you should have just married Yoon Eun Seung."

And Hae-in said to him "why don't we just say that we broke up on good terms."

Much of the conflict and tension in this drama are based upon events in the past so I imagine we will eventually discover what happened back when they were at University together.
Replying to sunshine and gasoline Mar 23, 2024
Well..trailers do show that HW and Hae In don't wear their rings at some points....so potential for some relationship…
She used the term "broke off" the relationship. And her rival (Royal Department store gal) said something like: "You should have just married Eun seung when you had the chance".
Replying to Kathryn_51 Mar 23, 2024
Title Queen of Tears Spoiler
You might want to prepare yourself for a temporary break-up well before the end. Hyun woo is an obstacle ("thorn")…
I'm still not much of a fan of Hae-in. But you are right - She's using Eun Seong (which is ok since he is using her), but doesn't care whether or not it hurts Hyun Woo.
Replying to jjkll Mar 23, 2024
one thing i really like about this show is that they don't change her personality at all, she's always seen as…
Her mother doesn't hate her - when she was told that Hae In had been hurt during the hunt, she was clearly distraught . However, Hae-in is very independent (unlike her son) and she was especially unhappy that she married against the family's wishes.
Replying to mjcsfla1 Mar 23, 2024
I think I need to FF through all the 2 ML scenes….
What do you mean?? You signed up for another weekender after LYOL!! You are tougher than me. 😊