I'm taking a pause in watching this but will keep an eye on the comments here as we're all pretty much in agreement regarding the series. I'll wait for the 'wife' to return and then the story should get interesting. I still think this show won't really start until that happens.
And it got me thinking: Maybe they don't know how to bring her back? As unlikely as that sounds it would explain why the show is essentially on hold well past it's sell-by date. While on the surface it seemed the likely (and early favorite here) plot line was that she'd come back for a divorce so she could move on with her new life and family elsewhere. But I'm really intrigued by the scenario proposed a couple of weeks ago ( I forget by whom) where she's discovered by the police and "compelled' to return home to face the family and confess her new life to them so she can get her divorce official and move on.
I think that latter scenario would be really dramatic and finally spice up this series. And maybe the writers are struggling with this decision or last-minute changes have thrown things into disarray. They are probably shooting about 2 weeks ahead of air time so by now the negative feedback regarding the show's pacing has certainly been heard.
KBS America (which airs this show on a local cable channel one week behind where the current release is) has a new promo for this program. And it's sold as the story of a single father trying to raise a rebellious teenage girl (and isn't that flattering to JD). No mention of romance, etc. I think if they had promoted this show like this from the beginning, we'd have some idea of what we were getting into and I would have decided to pass on it.
- Someone posts on the company website that the child yd is carrying is not TK's (my money here is on manic mandy)-…
I wish you were writing the show! I agree with just about everything you said, and as someone from CS & InOk's generation I want the lie to be resolved ASAP before it's exposed by external forces. It's just not right to lie to your parents, especially about something this important, and I can't imagine KBS endorsing that. And this is the source of course of YD's guilt - she knows this is wrong. Because once his folks find out, their first question to TK/YD will be "why did you feel you had to lie about that to us?" I like telling InOk first, under a controlled setting and letting her deal with it and telling those that need to know the truth. BongMin will have to know the truth at some point, maybe that is best left to DS to figure out.
- Someone posts on the company website that the child yd is carrying is not TK's (my money here is on manic mandy)-…
OK, here goes:
NO NO NO
I’m hoping this is a red herring, or flat out BS meant to trip us up. I don’t want to believe it and can’t because it’s out of character for the show. To wit:
SYNOPSIS: TK ignoring his request to break up and the chairman going to YD is a similar situation we saw in Bravo My Life when the same actor (ironically) asked the FL to breakup with the ML (his adopted son – sound familiar?) based on a misunderstanding. So there is precedent in Dramaland. But why would this character (chairman) act on a rumor? Who could he possibly talk to that he would believe without summoning both TK & YD together to the office to discuss this? He’s been warned about not trusting SJ, so it couldn’t come from her. And that HE would do it without bringing in his wife? Sorry, no dice. And why make her split up right away when she has her lease due in 2 mos time? Would InOk be all right with this? I think not. He COULD just tell her to just move out on schedule and not look back. Now that MAY have happened and the post-meeting stress induced the fainting & bleeding, but again why HIM unilaterally?
TRYING TO THINK CLEARLY: We all know a couple of things: 1) A split up is inevitable. It would most likely be due to an unstoppable external force because after 2 mos TK/YD would be even more inseparable and he’d have torn up her lease. So SOMETHING would cause them to split apart to test their love and strengthen it. But they would find out how much they have come to be a part of each other and rush to reunite. Sticking to formula, this HAS to happen. 2) At some point the lie will be exposed. - Either (preferably) out of guilt, they are forced to confess to their parents while declaring that they now truly love each other and are ready to welcome Real as its parents. - Or unpreferably, because they’ve been exposed. How this confession is received is anyone’s guess and we’ve discussed it last week.
We DON’T know what order these 2 items will occur in. (Will they confess out of guilt, causing the parents to demand they split? Or, will they be forced to split and then confess out of desperation to get approval to stay together?)
This twitter rumor addresses both points, but it doesn’t seem right. Again, the Chairman of all people? Especially with his strained relationship with TK? And unlike Bravo My Life, which had no one in the adopted ML’s corner to stand up for him against the father, here there is InOk’s fondness for them both. Wouldn’t a desperate TK rush to his mother to try to spare their relationship and intercede with her husband before he can go to YD? What would empower CS to unilaterally split them up? Is he trying to make it look voluntary on their part to spare InOk and his mother’s intervention?
Even more disturbing is the specter of her bleeding and fainting. She’s passed out a few times before and been OK. Sure, we get that. But if she’s bleeding and the unthinkable happens are we back to our speculation from last month where she does miscarry? If this happens, then the original premise for their relationship is gone and there would be “no reason” for them to continue as a couple (as seen by outsiders from his/her family) - Only their love for each other that has developed in the meantime. It also eliminates the DNA testing merry-go-round that would be inevitable at some point once the Real’s born. Could her miscarriage (induced by the stress from the meeting with the Chairman) be the reason for a split since they wouldn’t have the baby to bond them? This opens the door to a lot of possibilities, many of them I’d rather not think about.
I prefer to vote “no” to this rumor, but I realize that something like this IS bound to happen. Because I don’t think they will separate voluntarily now -they’ve gone too far in their love for each other. It pains me to think that SJ or JH will successfully part them.
When I read Sher's summary and your summary, I decided I am skipping today. I will binge this series later. I…
Don't worry about a thing, take your meds and bless you for your patience and willingness to help us here. I know how you feel, we've all invested too much time in this series and have gotten nothing in return. I'd be happy if they were playing it for laughs, even. OH well.
When I read Sher's summary and your summary, I decided I am skipping today. I will binge this series later. I…
Dont feel sorry. I can't take this series anymore, it's eating my brain. And I had to vent yesterday because I'm tired of our collective intelligence being insulted by this series, not to mention they are wasting our time. This is 50 episodes at best, and they think they can just get away with filler after filler. Sigh. I think the key to success to a series is that the audience has to care for the characters (at least some of them). But there really isn't anyone I care for, except for KS sister in law, who got a raw deal...and at best, I just feel sorry for her. A tip of the hat to Sher, Loelha & Lunkera for your perseverance and spoilers!
What is it with this show? They keep turning everybody into disagreeable characters. The character development (which should have been done 30 episodes ago) continues and downhill at that. Now his dad is a total dirtbag, HR is beyond having a crush and Dong & Son are suddenly caring about the aunt???? SHEESH.
The only consistency I see is MR is still totally clueless and KS is a glutton for punishment.
And if he wasn't interested in HR, WHY IS HE AT HER PLACE PEELING FRUIT FOR HER? You KNOW he went there on his own. Frankly, if he wasn't slightly interested he wouldn't be there. Talk about sending mixed signals!
GO FOR IT, HORANG!!! I don't care anymore...she's a damn sight better for him than his pining for that *#!%&@ "wife" that dumped him with her kid 10 years ago. OK, HR's flaky, and did try getting him to a hotel when they were both tipsy, but at this point, whatever (and frankly, with him being how he is, the woman in his life is going to HAVE to drag him to bed anyways!) HR's still hot for her age, does actually care about Jandi (and has known her since birth), has a successful (small) business and her bro is his best friend. How many other women are going to be attracted to a single man with a barely-in-control pubescent daughter? TALK ABOUT A RED FLAG!!!
KS needs to knock it off with the virtual monk attitude and live. And if it's with HR then fine. Join the rest of civilzation and get out of your leechy in-laws, get your dumb kid under control and marry the woman who has known you since you were young. YOU COULD DO A LOT WORSE. And put us viewers out of our misery waiting for something to happen that we can't imagine ever happening (KS + MR)
ARRRRRRRGHHHHHHHH THIS STUPID SERIES!!!!!! Where's my calming pills?!?!
PS - and if you think we're unhappy with the pace and development of this show, look at this doofus writer's reviews of his previous series UNASKED FAMILY here on the MDL discussion board and you'll find familiar complaints. How did this guy get another writing gig?????
WDYM with your last bit pertaining the delusional cavetroll? Can you elaborate?
Yup, it was the look she gave him when he talked about the gift. Had they cut away or had her change her expression, I would have thought nothing of it. We'll see....
WDYM with your last bit pertaining the delusional cavetroll? Can you elaborate?
Here's what hit me: JH tells her that he's going to crush up TK and present it to her. Her expression is one of fear and shock. She wants TK, not his remains....YD is her enemy - not HIM. It occurs to me that she will be put in a position to stop his plans to harm TK & the firm and she will try to do so out of desire for TK and loyalty to the firm. But, factor in this is that the Chairman was warned to not trust her...so will he believe her when she tries to stop JH? This would explain why they had the Chairman get that warning & not TK or YD.
I dunno, this just flashed before my eyes, the minute JH talked about his gift for her. I haven't guessed anything right about this series since the start, so what do I know? The writer keeps throwing me curveballs.
Wow. For me, that was a pretty intense episode, all around.
Highlights - -Their sharing a bed, obviously. I wish that had been the final scene. -YD & SooJung. As stated below, add one to team YD. I think she will be the one to convince her to go the donation route. Not sure how Uncle fits in yet. -After BongMin tells off Granny and storms out (30 min mark) Granny says HA to her back. I don't know why, but I found that incredibly funny and completely out of character for her.
Lowlight - Any scene JH is in. What a jerk. I friggin hate that guy.
Biggest Surprise - Hee has another job already? And no pharmacist today?
Most Anticipated Moment - When TK/YD come to her house and see YM there and they all realize what's going on and that SK is actually YM's niece-in-law.
What stunned me the most was that I think they are laying the foundation for the SeJin redemption arc, given JH's promise of a "gift" to her. Is it really that obvious as to what is going to happen?????
I finished my housework. I ate my lunch. I read BT's recap. I turned off my cellphone. And settled in to watch the subbed version on Kocowa. The minute TK saw JH's face my BP shot up by 20 points! OH NO But his takedown of that clown was beautiful. I need a breather before resuming. INTENSE!!!!!
(I know that sounds like some kind of drunken Haiku, but I'm just trying to say BRACE YOURSELF for the first act of Ep 24.)
And it got me thinking: Maybe they don't know how to bring her back? As unlikely as that sounds it would explain why the show is essentially on hold well past it's sell-by date. While on the surface it seemed the likely (and early favorite here) plot line was that she'd come back for a divorce so she could move on with her new life and family elsewhere. But I'm really intrigued by the scenario proposed a couple of weeks ago ( I forget by whom) where she's discovered by the police and "compelled' to return home to face the family and confess her new life to them so she can get her divorce official and move on.
I think that latter scenario would be really dramatic and finally spice up this series. And maybe the writers are struggling with this decision or last-minute changes have thrown things into disarray. They are probably shooting about 2 weeks ahead of air time so by now the negative feedback regarding the show's pacing has certainly been heard.
Just thinking out loud.
Live and Learn, KBS.
I agree with just about everything you said, and as someone from CS & InOk's generation I want the lie to be resolved ASAP before it's exposed by external forces. It's just not right to lie to your parents, especially about something this important, and I can't imagine KBS endorsing that. And this is the source of course of YD's guilt - she knows this is wrong. Because once his folks find out, their first question to TK/YD will be "why did you feel you had to lie about that to us?" I like telling InOk first, under a controlled setting and letting her deal with it and telling those that need to know the truth.
BongMin will have to know the truth at some point, maybe that is best left to DS to figure out.
NO NO NO
I’m hoping this is a red herring, or flat out BS meant to trip us up. I don’t want to believe it and can’t because it’s out of character for the show. To wit:
SYNOPSIS:
TK ignoring his request to break up and the chairman going to YD is a similar situation we saw in Bravo My Life when the same actor (ironically) asked the FL to breakup with the ML (his adopted son – sound familiar?) based on a misunderstanding. So there is precedent in Dramaland. But why would this character (chairman) act on a rumor? Who could he possibly talk to that he would believe without summoning both TK & YD together to the office to discuss this? He’s been warned about not trusting SJ, so it couldn’t come from her. And that HE would do it without bringing in his wife? Sorry, no dice. And why make her split up right away when she has her lease due in 2 mos time? Would InOk be all right with this? I think not. He COULD just tell her to just move out on schedule and not look back. Now that MAY have happened and the post-meeting stress induced the fainting & bleeding, but again why HIM unilaterally?
TRYING TO THINK CLEARLY:
We all know a couple of things:
1) A split up is inevitable. It would most likely be due to an unstoppable external force because after 2 mos TK/YD would be even more inseparable and he’d have torn up her lease. So SOMETHING would cause them to split apart to test their love and strengthen it. But they would find out how much they have come to be a part of each other and rush to reunite. Sticking to formula, this HAS to happen.
2) At some point the lie will be exposed.
- Either (preferably) out of guilt, they are forced to confess to their parents while declaring that they now truly love each other and are ready to welcome Real as its parents.
- Or unpreferably, because they’ve been exposed. How this confession is received is anyone’s guess and we’ve discussed it last week.
We DON’T know what order these 2 items will occur in. (Will they confess out of guilt, causing the parents to demand they split? Or, will they be forced to split and then confess out of desperation to get approval to stay together?)
This twitter rumor addresses both points, but it doesn’t seem right. Again, the Chairman of all people? Especially with his strained relationship with TK? And unlike Bravo My Life, which had no one in the adopted ML’s corner to stand up for him against the father, here there is InOk’s fondness for them both. Wouldn’t a desperate TK rush to his mother to try to spare their relationship and intercede with her husband before he can go to YD? What would empower CS to unilaterally split them up? Is he trying to make it look voluntary on their part to spare InOk and his mother’s intervention?
Even more disturbing is the specter of her bleeding and fainting. She’s passed out a few times before and been OK. Sure, we get that. But if she’s bleeding and the unthinkable happens are we back to our speculation from last month where she does miscarry? If this happens, then the original premise for their relationship is gone and there would be “no reason” for them to continue as a couple (as seen by outsiders from his/her family) - Only their love for each other that has developed in the meantime. It also eliminates the DNA testing merry-go-round that would be inevitable at some point once the Real’s born. Could her miscarriage (induced by the stress from the meeting with the Chairman) be the reason for a split since they wouldn’t have the baby to bond them? This opens the door to a lot of possibilities, many of them I’d rather not think about.
I prefer to vote “no” to this rumor, but I realize that something like this IS bound to happen. Because I don’t think they will separate voluntarily now -they’ve gone too far in their love for each other. It pains me to think that SJ or JH will successfully part them.
I think the key to success to a series is that the audience has to care for the characters (at least some of them). But there really isn't anyone I care for, except for KS sister in law, who got a raw deal...and at best, I just feel sorry for her.
A tip of the hat to Sher, Loelha & Lunkera for your perseverance and spoilers!
What is it with this show? They keep turning everybody into disagreeable characters. The character development (which should have been done 30 episodes ago) continues and downhill at that. Now his dad is a total dirtbag, HR is beyond having a crush and Dong & Son are suddenly caring about the aunt???? SHEESH.
The only consistency I see is MR is still totally clueless and KS is a glutton for punishment.
And if he wasn't interested in HR, WHY IS HE AT HER PLACE PEELING FRUIT FOR HER? You KNOW he went there on his own. Frankly, if he wasn't slightly interested he wouldn't be there. Talk about sending mixed signals!
GO FOR IT, HORANG!!! I don't care anymore...she's a damn sight better for him than his pining for that *#!%&@ "wife" that dumped him with her kid 10 years ago. OK, HR's flaky, and did try getting him to a hotel when they were both tipsy, but at this point, whatever (and frankly, with him being how he is, the woman in his life is going to HAVE to drag him to bed anyways!) HR's still hot for her age, does actually care about Jandi (and has known her since birth), has a successful (small) business and her bro is his best friend. How many other women are going to be attracted to a single man with a barely-in-control pubescent daughter? TALK ABOUT A RED FLAG!!!
KS needs to knock it off with the virtual monk attitude and live. And if it's with HR then fine. Join the rest of civilzation and get out of your leechy in-laws, get your dumb kid under control and marry the woman who has known you since you were young. YOU COULD DO A LOT WORSE. And put us viewers out of our misery waiting for something to happen that we can't imagine ever happening (KS + MR)
ARRRRRRRGHHHHHHHH THIS STUPID SERIES!!!!!! Where's my calming pills?!?!
PS - and if you think we're unhappy with the pace and development of this show, look at this doofus writer's reviews of his previous series UNASKED FAMILY here on the MDL discussion board and you'll find familiar complaints. How did this guy get another writing gig?????
I can't recall an episode lately where Baek Jin Hee hasn't had a scene where she cried. Poor thing, thank goodness she's good at it.
JH tells her that he's going to crush up TK and present it to her. Her expression is one of fear and shock. She wants TK, not his remains....YD is her enemy - not HIM. It occurs to me that she will be put in a position to stop his plans to harm TK & the firm and she will try to do so out of desire for TK and loyalty to the firm. But, factor in this is that the Chairman was warned to not trust her...so will he believe her when she tries to stop JH? This would explain why they had the Chairman get that warning & not TK or YD.
I dunno, this just flashed before my eyes, the minute JH talked about his gift for her. I haven't guessed anything right about this series since the start, so what do I know? The writer keeps throwing me curveballs.
For me, that was a pretty intense episode, all around.
Highlights -
-Their sharing a bed, obviously. I wish that had been the final scene.
-YD & SooJung. As stated below, add one to team YD. I think she will be the one to convince her to go the donation route. Not sure how Uncle fits in yet.
-After BongMin tells off Granny and storms out (30 min mark) Granny says HA to her back. I don't know why, but I found that incredibly funny and completely out of character for her.
Lowlight - Any scene JH is in. What a jerk. I friggin hate that guy.
Biggest Surprise - Hee has another job already? And no pharmacist today?
Most Anticipated Moment - When TK/YD come to her house and see YM there and they all realize what's going on and that SK is actually YM's niece-in-law.
What stunned me the most was that I think they are laying the foundation for the SeJin redemption arc, given JH's promise of a "gift" to her. Is it really that obvious as to what is going to happen?????
Wow.
I ate my lunch.
I read BT's recap.
I turned off my cellphone.
And settled in to watch the subbed version on Kocowa.
The minute TK saw JH's face my BP shot up by 20 points! OH NO
But his takedown of that clown was beautiful.
I need a breather before resuming.
INTENSE!!!!!
(I know that sounds like some kind of drunken Haiku, but I'm just trying to say BRACE YOURSELF for the first act of Ep 24.)