Oh wow, I just watched the trailer for ep. 9 and here's what happens in it: The trailer suggests Moo Chi will end up in jail just as he wished. Furthermore, they give us the possible reason why Han Seo Joon would agree to operate on Ba Reum. It seems there was some sort of negotiation between Han Seo Joon and the party who wanted him to do the surgery (whoever that might be) and Han Seo Joon was promised to be pardoned for saving Ba Reum, which means Han Seo Joon could possibly get out of jail in future episodes.
The latter sounds ridiculous to me though, and the trailers could always be misleading after all. Or there's really politics involved and they'll somehow blame the headhunter murders on someone else and turn Han Seo Joon innocent to get him out of jail. But I don't see any purpose in bringing Han Seo Joon out of jail, so I think they're really just misleading us.
I wonder if Ba Reum and Bong Yi will end up marrying before Ba Reum realizes his true identity. They were previously already engaged so to say, she's of age now and since she keeps being targeted by criminals, I can imagine they'd rush the marriage so that Ba Reum can protect her. Even though I really don't want to see Bong Yi suffer anymore, this would add a really interesting new layer to the story.
But whether they marry or not, I'm pretty sure Ba Reum will develop real feelings of love for Bong Yi and later be devastated over the fact that he killed her grandma. If they do marry and develop a strong bond, there's also the question if Bong Yi could ever forgive her husband.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CM7I7LrpYC5/ saw this in instagram. so it was actually the lawyer? the father probably…
There's no doubt that it was the lawyer, there are actually quite a few things speaking for it.
Dong Goo doesn't really have an alibi, I think, but it would be too much of a coincidence if he were a psychopathic serial killer as well imo. Furthermore, his behavior in general and his reactions seemed genuine, not fake like Ba Reum's. Ba Reum sometimes even copied his friend's reactions. Thus I think chances that he's a psychopath as well are pretty low, unless he's a non-psychopathic accomplice who doesn't kill himself. But I don't think Ba Reum would need such an accomplice, he's highly intelligent and an accomplice is just an unnecessary risk that could reveal his true identity.
I think Dong Goo not having an alibi is just to confuse us viewers and leave different possibilies open so that the plot won't be too obvious.
The book reference is actually quite interesting. Just a little correction: "Heads" is a manga series based on the novel by Keigo Higashino. The novel's title is "Transformation".
But I somehow still doubt they really did a brain transplant in the drama. Wouldn't the wound and surgery alone be enough to change his brain?
https://twitter.com/ChingTamSze1/status/1375871991337558020?s=19 - this theory seems plausible to me for now.…
I actually thought about this possibility too. If it really has to be brain transplant, then it's definitely this way round and not the other way round like people have been saying.
But since they revealed Han Seo Joon as the surgeon, it kind of goes against this theory, doesn't it? He as a psychopath himself has certainly no interest to turn a psychopath into a normal person.
Thus, in the end, I still believe there's no brain transplant, for this reason and also others that I already mentioned before.
The problem I'm having right now is that if Ba Reum is the killer which all the evidence so far is hinting towards,…
I think the writer really wants us to focus on the first main lead only, even if he's bad. If any of the other main leads were good and likeable, wouldn't that sort of turn them into the first main lead and the actual first main lead into an antagonist?
The writer stated that it's unfair that the victims and their relatives have to suffer for the rest of their lives while the culprits are totally fine (and it's also what Chi Kook said in ep. 2). I see the other three main leads as examples for different kinds of victims with f*cked up lives due to what they went through.
I understand where you're coming from and this is also why main leads are usually likeable people since viewers want to be able to root for them. But this is really a different kind of drama, I don't think I've ever seen a Kdrama with a purely evil main lead before. The writer wants us to focus on the psychopath's journey from a predator with no ounce of remorse to a feeling human who will repent, and other likeable main leads would only make us lose focus. That's how I see it.
https://twitter.com/1301sg/status/1375103018606030852This is what I believe.
I don't think so. We need a psychopathic serial killer who will repent his wrongdoings since this is the writer's intention, and if the Twitter post were true, the drama would go into a completely different direction.
I'm really 99.9% convinced now that the cross killer can only be Ba Reum.
The murder of Yo Han's friend wasn't related to the 7 deadly sins. My guess is Ba Reum killed him to make the…
No, the brain transplant thing is only an assumption and I highly doubt that it's true. Even if we completely disregard the fact that it's not even possible scientifically, the drama wouldn't just reveal it like this, there are always twists. It was used as a cliffhanger and those are basically never true.
Question!! If the cross killer killed based on the 7 deadly sins, then which "sin" is Yo Han's friend?? And what…
The murder of Yo Han's friend wasn't related to the 7 deadly sins. My guess is Ba Reum killed him to make the police suspect Yo Han since his friend was Yo Han's only alibi. Ba Reum had been planning to put the blame on Yo Han for quite a while imo. As for the reason, mabye he had already noticed that Yo Han was following him around and suspecting him as the killer?
Does anyone have an idea how one could link the boxer to Ba Reum?
The boxer being the one who killed Jae Hoon's family is the only theory I can think of, but this theory doesn't make a lot of sense since Jae Hoon probably wouldn't have minded his family being dead anyway. Or maybe I'm wrong on this and he did care about them after all? Maybe because it destroyed the image of a normal family and he really wanted to be normal at the time. He kept saying he can't kill his dad even though he's annoyed with him, so he targeted the animals instead.
Anyway, any other ideas on what the link between the boxer and Ba Reum could be? They must have thrown at least a tiny hint somewhere into the drama.
It's getting ridiculous. How many times has Bong Yi been attacked now?! Don't tell me she's gonna be attacked…
I agree with you on this point. It's as if she has a certain smell to her that automatically attracts vicious criminals lol. First there's the rapist, then Ba Reum (under the assumption that he's the cross killer, although he wasn't trying to harm her, but this doesn't change the fact that he was deceiving her with evil intentions), and then the recent serial killer. As much as I love this drama, I also thought that this point is a little bit too much.
But maybe the writer will surprise us later on and there's actually a logical explanation for this. The rapist and the lawyer do have a connection after all, so it would only make Ba Reum targeting her as well a coincidence, but I still felt too many things are happening to her.
I just can't stop thinking about this drama haha, so I rewatched some scenes and tried to find more clues.
There's one thing that bugged me if we suppose that Ba Reum is the cross killer. It was mentioned that psychopaths usually avoid killing people they're close to, so why did he try to murder his own friend? But after rewatching some parts of ep. 2, I found the possible motive. When Dong Goo expresses his fascination for Han Seo Joon, Chi Kook becomes enraged and shows his disgust for psychopaths with the following words: "Killing a weak, powerless woman after hiding like a rat. This cowardly bug-like bastard." I think these words could have easily provoked Ba Reum to choose Chi Kook as his victim. We have the symbol of the rat/mouse (the Korean word for rat and mouse is the same) here again, which I believe stands for Ba Reum himself. And Ba Reum is definitely intelligent enough to murder spontaneously and still not leave any traces even without planning a long time in advance.
I forgot to add that BR was the one pushing fot the live show.
You're right, the finger is another thing we can add to that. There's just too much for it to be a pure coincidence. Without Ba Reum (who is supposed to not be that intelligent) the investigation would have gone nowhere.
He definitely was a genius even before the surgery, but he concealed it and there's no need for him to conceal it unless he is the cross killer.
I also think that him almost getting hit by Moo Chi's car while saving the bird was all staged in order to earn Moo Chi's trust. He knew about Moo Chi and his hate towards psychopathic serial killers thanks to his drunk interview. And the bird scene happened a few meters away from the prison after Moo Chi paid Han Seo Joon a visit. So I think that Ba Reum saw Moo Chi in front of the prison, recognized him and quickly staged the bird incident. He probably broke the bird's legs himself.
I forgot to add that BR was the one pushing fot the live show.
It's not only him pushing for the live show actually. It was always Ba Reum who conveniently "discovered" the crucial hints in the investigations. It was Ba Reum who told Moo Chi about the watch belonging to his friend so that Moo Chi could connect the murders and it was also Ba Reum who discovered that blood was dripping from the roof and so they found Chi Kook's missing clothes as well as the weapon. I think he was playing with Moo Chi all along.
The trailer suggests Moo Chi will end up in jail just as he wished. Furthermore, they give us the possible reason why Han Seo Joon would agree to operate on Ba Reum. It seems there was some sort of negotiation between Han Seo Joon and the party who wanted him to do the surgery (whoever that might be) and Han Seo Joon was promised to be pardoned for saving Ba Reum, which means Han Seo Joon could possibly get out of jail in future episodes.
The latter sounds ridiculous to me though, and the trailers could always be misleading after all. Or there's really politics involved and they'll somehow blame the headhunter murders on someone else and turn Han Seo Joon innocent to get him out of jail. But I don't see any purpose in bringing Han Seo Joon out of jail, so I think they're really just misleading us.
But whether they marry or not, I'm pretty sure Ba Reum will develop real feelings of love for Bong Yi and later be devastated over the fact that he killed her grandma. If they do marry and develop a strong bond, there's also the question if Bong Yi could ever forgive her husband.
Dong Goo doesn't really have an alibi, I think, but it would be too much of a coincidence if he were a psychopathic serial killer as well imo. Furthermore, his behavior in general and his reactions seemed genuine, not fake like Ba Reum's. Ba Reum sometimes even copied his friend's reactions. Thus I think chances that he's a psychopath as well are pretty low, unless he's a non-psychopathic accomplice who doesn't kill himself. But I don't think Ba Reum would need such an accomplice, he's highly intelligent and an accomplice is just an unnecessary risk that could reveal his true identity.
I think Dong Goo not having an alibi is just to confuse us viewers and leave different possibilies open so that the plot won't be too obvious.
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But I somehow still doubt they really did a brain transplant in the drama. Wouldn't the wound and surgery alone be enough to change his brain?
But since they revealed Han Seo Joon as the surgeon, it kind of goes against this theory, doesn't it? He as a psychopath himself has certainly no interest to turn a psychopath into a normal person.
Thus, in the end, I still believe there's no brain transplant, for this reason and also others that I already mentioned before.
The writer stated that it's unfair that the victims and their relatives have to suffer for the rest of their lives while the culprits are totally fine (and it's also what Chi Kook said in ep. 2). I see the other three main leads as examples for different kinds of victims with f*cked up lives due to what they went through.
I understand where you're coming from and this is also why main leads are usually likeable people since viewers want to be able to root for them. But this is really a different kind of drama, I don't think I've ever seen a Kdrama with a purely evil main lead before. The writer wants us to focus on the psychopath's journey from a predator with no ounce of remorse to a feeling human who will repent, and other likeable main leads would only make us lose focus. That's how I see it.
I'm really 99.9% convinced now that the cross killer can only be Ba Reum.
The boxer being the one who killed Jae Hoon's family is the only theory I can think of, but this theory doesn't make a lot of sense since Jae Hoon probably wouldn't have minded his family being dead anyway. Or maybe I'm wrong on this and he did care about them after all? Maybe because it destroyed the image of a normal family and he really wanted to be normal at the time. He kept saying he can't kill his dad even though he's annoyed with him, so he targeted the animals instead.
Anyway, any other ideas on what the link between the boxer and Ba Reum could be? They must have thrown at least a tiny hint somewhere into the drama.
But maybe the writer will surprise us later on and there's actually a logical explanation for this. The rapist and the lawyer do have a connection after all, so it would only make Ba Reum targeting her as well a coincidence, but I still felt too many things are happening to her.
There's one thing that bugged me if we suppose that Ba Reum is the cross killer. It was mentioned that psychopaths usually avoid killing people they're close to, so why did he try to murder his own friend? But after rewatching some parts of ep. 2, I found the possible motive. When Dong Goo expresses his fascination for Han Seo Joon, Chi Kook becomes enraged and shows his disgust for psychopaths with the following words: "Killing a weak, powerless woman after hiding like a rat. This cowardly bug-like bastard." I think these words could have easily provoked Ba Reum to choose Chi Kook as his victim. We have the symbol of the rat/mouse (the Korean word for rat and mouse is the same) here again, which I believe stands for Ba Reum himself. And Ba Reum is definitely intelligent enough to murder spontaneously and still not leave any traces even without planning a long time in advance.
He definitely was a genius even before the surgery, but he concealed it and there's no need for him to conceal it unless he is the cross killer.
I also think that him almost getting hit by Moo Chi's car while saving the bird was all staged in order to earn Moo Chi's trust. He knew about Moo Chi and his hate towards psychopathic serial killers thanks to his drunk interview. And the bird scene happened a few meters away from the prison after Moo Chi paid Han Seo Joon a visit. So I think that Ba Reum saw Moo Chi in front of the prison, recognized him and quickly staged the bird incident. He probably broke the bird's legs himself.