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Replying to Circe May 9, 2020
Title 2gether
People are calling this comment misogynistic.. now I could be wrong but I don't think they meant this in a misogynistic…
"The truth is that a lot of BL is written by and for straight women. Do we really know the public who enjoys or writes BL series ?"
Yes, we do. I make a living with novel writing and started out with BL stories (my guilty pleasure). The fans are 99% women and most of them are like "We have to fight for gay rights!!! I love BL" and at the same time they are grossed out by lesbian kisses. Of course there are exceptions so people will say "I like lesbian stuff too, this is really about fighting for gay rights" or you will encounter gay men. That happens more by watching those series because many gay men enjoy them (and if it's only to see cute boys being in love, which sometimes worries me because I feel there are a lot of pedophiles around). The written stories appeal much more to women, though. They are full of cliches and badly written. I remember the fanfictions I read 15 years ago. Not much has changed since them. This is trash literature and it isn't getting better. It is a fetish of heterosexual women who want to see a hetero relationship with the strong alpha male and the little girly "uke". One d*ck is great, but we all know two d*cks are better. Watch some fan meetings where women are screaming their lungs out when the actors show fan service. Those aren't lesbians or gay men. As a writer I understood very early, that you cannot survive in this genre if you aren't writing the same crap. Because, like I said, it's a fetish thing. This is not about writing a good story.
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Replying to Circe May 9, 2020
Title 2gether
People are calling this comment misogynistic.. now I could be wrong but I don't think they meant this in a misogynistic…
Thank you, Circe. That was exactly what I meant.
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Replying to Tsuliwaensis May 9, 2020
Title 2gether
"Those female authors with their lack of ideas and inability of writing good love stories are so annoying."seriously?…
I'm not a man. I'm a woman. Misogynistic? Because I have to find everything great what women out there are doing? 99% of BL writers are women and most of the fans are too. Why everyone is always aksing "Who is the uke?" Why are male gay characters calling their male gay partner "wifey"? Why is there a thing like MPREG? Because those authors write cliche characters where one has to be the "man" and the other one has to be the "woman". 2gether was liked by many because those two were "equals", they aren't anymore. Why even bother writing a BL story if you make some kind of hetero fantasy out of it with the only difference that the woman has a d*ck? AS A WOMAN Sarawat's behavior of caring for Tine creeps me out, to be honest. The vibe makes me uncomfortable.
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Replying to Darkstarz May 8, 2020
Title 2gether
Y'all. Please prepare yourselves for the ending to be all over the place and end with a strong hug. Im just saying...prepare…
I cannot believe that we haven’t seen a single kiss where Tine moved his lips
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On 2gether May 8, 2020
Title 2gether
The word "disappointed" cannot even describe what I feel. How could this silly but great and enjoyable series became this stupid, boring, repetitive mess? The chemistry was 1000 and now it's minus 100. Tine looks uncomfortable and miserable and Sarawat seems distant. This series went downhill with ep 7 when they introduced Earn just for that silly jealousy plot (again, jealousy!) and showed Tine naked in the emotional break-up scene (fan service, yeah, like I have to be horny to appreciate the emotional scene more) and this badly directed confession scene where they were standing apart 6 feet, not knowing how to act and what to feel. Since then we only got filler episodes with no plot (or a stupid plot). I will pretend this series ended with ep 6 and live happily ever after. Those two don't look like a couple at all. It's not about kisses, they don't even touch each other properly and when they do it looks strange.
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On 2gether May 2, 2020
Title 2gether
Since I'm not the only one who is disappointed in this series A RANT: I hate the alpha male behavior from Sarawat and Mil. "You can't take care of your boy" - Your boy? Taking care? What's that supposed to mean? Why should Sarawat be the only one who takes care of his boy(friend)? They should take care of each other! I loved the scenes in Ep 1 and Ep 2 when Sarawat patted Tine's head. But know I feel like he is patting a dog. The spark is gone and all because of terrible writing. Win was always my favorite but I feel he is struggling with the character lately. The humor is gone (his biggest strength), his bold attitude is gone (his other strength), now he only has to act as a lost puppy (literally!). That said, they are going around in circles like I complained weeks ago. Alpha male behavior, jealousy, insecurity, some revelations, love declarations, cute boys being cute, jealousy, insecurity, alpha male behavior, revelations, cute boys being cute etc. This series had so much potential, it's a shame. Those female authors with their lack of ideas and inability of writing good love stories are so annoying. Honestly, it's really not that hard to write a decent love story. Give me that damn script and I would have done a better job! Oh, and now Tine's brother is gay too. Yeah. Gay brothers everywhere.
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Replying to Dzoni May 2, 2020
Title 2gether
Damn, Tine used to be my fave character. Now it's painful to watch how he can't even stand up for himself - the…
Same here. Where is Mr. Chic from the earlier episodes? The confident guy who does cheerleading to get some girls? The one who introduced himself in such a bold way back then in episode 1? I still see him sitting with his friends all confident and thinking about a plan to get rid of Green. Now he became a little puppy who gets lost in the woods.
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SunSol Apr 16, 2020
Thank you for the review. I'm glad there are some people out there who have enough emotional intelligence to see how terrible this series was.
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Replying to sony_t Apr 15, 2020
Title 2gether
So I was working late and it ended up being past midnight so I said "since I'm up why not stream the 'Lunch with…
I wouldn't worry too much about Covid-19 living in Thailand. Those precautions are done for show not for safety. It's good to be worried and not reckless, but this gets blown out of proportion.
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Replying to Badass Bunny Apr 14, 2020
Title 2gether
Actually the whole drama ain't about them being straight XDWe have known about their sexuality since the start…
It has all to do with the shipping. Why are people even interested in his girlfriend? What do people expect from her? She is an adult, he is an adult. She has the right to say whatever she wants. Is he now supposed to break up with her? Should he show her her place? What kind of patriarchy is that? Or apologizing for her? Imagine you don't like a western actor because you don't like his wife? Talking about wives, what does a girlfriend of a 22 years old boy even matter? Is he married with her and has two children? Those hardcore fans are just luring in the dark, stalking her and waiting for a possibility to attack her. People always ask on every YouTube video about Bright&Win "Are they together?", "Do they have a girlfriend?" It's crazy, it's toxic, it's stupid. The shipping will be hardcore with those two and nothing good will come from it. "We have known about their sexuality since the start and no one has problem with it." Really? On MDL someone told me Bright is bi or confused about his sexuality. Whatever they say, people will ship them.
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On 2gether Apr 12, 2020
Title 2gether
THE DRAMA IS HERE! Jesus ... I had such a bad feeling about Bright & Win from the very beginning. Those two are straight like an arrow, maybe one of them is bi-curious, that's it. But people are getting crazy because of their chemistry (which is always strongest if two obviously straight guys are acting in a BL series - it reminds me of Heroin/Addicted). Yeah, yeah ... this will get ugly. If not now, then later. I saw that the GMMTV youtube channel gained half a million new subscribers since this series aired. Imagine ... Their popularity is INSANE. They are BIG. And the bigger they are, the bigger the drama will get. Bright was too open lately about his feelings towards Win. He is in general too open about falling in love with a guy and everything. They should be more cautious. It's just always the same sh*t. I don't know why nobody can learn from this. I honestly don't see a future for this "couple" in the industry. Hopefully I'm wrong.
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Replying to QuiteACharmer Apr 12, 2020
Title 2gether
I think in the series, Green was legit having a crush on Tine after breaking up with Dim. Tine wanted to get rid…
Sarawat is the only "good" character who did not make any mistake until now (as far as I remember). He is very gentle, very soft, very considerate. He explained it well in the confession scene why he didn't tell him the truth, so I don't really have a problem with how this was resolved. But about Green ... his story is just strange. They didn't explain it well in the series.
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Replying to Magical Apr 12, 2020
Title 2gether
I noticed in the first episode Tine gave Green drugs in ''his'' drink. How is that ok? Promoting drugging other…
There is also the thing that Tine's friends wanted to scare Green by pretending to beat him up. I guess it's a common thing in Thailand that some guys go around beating others up. Sigh. You can overlook those things once (the scene was pretty funny "Are you Green or John Wick"), twice, but then it really gets difficult. I also don't like how girls are portrayed. Even the bossy girl who teaches the cheerleaders or the cool girl of the music club are reduced to crazy Sarawat fangirls. Again: you can enjoy this once, twice but it's getting tiring. Girls screaming everywhere when a supposedly hot guy takes off his shirt ... sigh. Those girls have no life and no dignity. What message is this? Aren't they smart students who are working hard? But then they are reduced to women who go crazy over some hot guys.
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On 2gether Apr 11, 2020
Title 2gether
Everyone in this series is showing some very questionable and immature behavior but because it's a romcom they can get away with it. Green is manipulative and selfish (but he must be protected because he is a Tootsie ... sigh), Tine tried to trick him with a fake boyfriend, Wat tricked Tine by getting along with it while knowing Green wasn't serious, Green was stalking Tine and flirting with him just to get back at his boyfriend (I mean ... come on!), Man is stalking his crush and tricking him by pretending to be a cute girl (this is the start of a serious relationship for sure), everyone is jealous or trying to make someone else jealous which is not only very immature but can be hurtful. The group of friends is just there for comic relief. They want to get Tine away from Wat but I'm sure they will be very supportive of this relationship in the next couple episodes. Their idea of love and relationships is very shallow. Now Wat gets beaten up by some guys because one of their girlfriends is liking his IG-posts. WTF? What kind of society is this? Who are those guys? I have seen similar storylines in other thai BL but here I feel they mixed everything together. This series is lacking any emotional depths. The only redeeming qualities are Win and Bright with their acting. You can feel there is some real affection between those two. The characters have distinctive personalities and the relationship develops very nicely. That said, I don't like how much Win and Bright get hyped up. Nothing good will ever come from that. I wonder how long it takes until their first big scandal. Seeing people talking about Bright's girlfriend is just the beginning. Those two are so different, but then again it's just always the same sh*t . Even their parents are now posting pictures of those two on social media. They are all blinded by the money.
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On 2gether Apr 6, 2020
Title 2gether
I lately thought a lot about their chemistry and their kissing. First of all, I loved the confession-kiss in ep 7. It was really sweet. Still their kisses look a lot like they are only pressing lips. The funny thing is that in the BTS scenes and if you watch the kisses in slow motion you can clearly see that they kiss in a completely normal (not awkward) way. So I must say I blame the director for making it look like that. Those kisses remind me a lot of the Pete&Kao kisses in Kiss Me Again The Series, and the director was the same. Now I really wonder what they will show us in the future, how cute they will be together, what kind of kisses (if any) we will get. Talking about the chemistry I start to think that it's mostly because of Bright's deep stares and his whole presence that they are so good together. Bright has chemistry with everyone. He had chemistry with that new girl even though they only had a few scenes together. Win on the other hand had no chemistry with Prea. I love Win (he is my favorite) and I enjoy his very natural acting, but I feel like he is trapped in the "shy-bottom-role". When I imagine him and Bright/Sarawat kissing I always see Win/Tine taking the initiative for some reason. Bright is just too sweet, too soft. He isn't playing the forceful top convincingly (which is great because I don't like such characters), so I wonder how it will be when Tine finally (!) closes his eyes and kisses Sarawat back. Despite Sarawat looking at Tine with those heart eyes they have some buddy-chemistry going on, mostly because Tines didn't show much romantic interest in Sarawat until now, which is understandable and makes perfect sense. But at the moment I'm not sure if they will use this couple to their full potential or keep it down and play it safe. And I'm not talking about some explicit scenes, I'm talking about Tine/Win showing us how much he is in love and breaking out from the "shy-bottom-role". Win could do that for sure, but I feel like it's not in the script.
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Replying to Robin Apr 4, 2020
Title 2gether
A rant lolI don't understand some comments. I don't think the pace has a problem ? Did they make out in the first…
I don't think the overall pace of the story (the progression of their love) is the problem. It's more that the editing is a bit choppy. They are jumping too fast from one scene to the other. And then suddenly hey have enough time for flashbacks.
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Replying to Ashande Apr 4, 2020
Title 2gether
I was impatient to watch the episode 7, but I'm a little bit disappointed. I find it rushed? A pity because I…
I'm honestly glad they are done with the fake-boyfriend-plot. Now I want to know what happens next.
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Replying to Pincolino Apr 4, 2020
Title 2gether
LOVE the series, but if everyone out there really thinks this is a good plot, then I'm losing faith in humanity.…
So many comments, guys! I WAS JOKING! Still the plot is repetitive like hell. If you cannot see it, that's not my fault. And talking about the quality of the plot: you know that most successful stories are bad? Like 50 shades of grey? Or will you tell me that was a good book because "opinions differ"? Everyone whoever tried to make a living with writing stories knows that cliches and stupidity sells. Like an author once said to me "I cannot always write the book of my dreams, I must make money too." So, yeah, this is a story full of popular cliches and not very smart and that's the reason why it appeals to so many people. Concepts like jealousy are over used. Is there no other way to understand your feelings? Everyone has the hots for everyone. The crush of the brother is the love rival of the other brother. It's going around in circles, but it's OKAY. I like it, I enjoy it. But please, don't get philosophical thinking the plot is smart. It's not. But the portrayal of the emotions is well done and some of the dialogues are excellent.
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Replying to Avery Apr 4, 2020
Title 2gether
Ep 7 sealed the fate of this show for me. They seem more like bro’s than lovers. Sarawat always looks disgusted…
I don't think he looks disgusted. Bright has a very expressive face especially when he gets emotional. So many other BL actors seem to have the same face throughout the whole series. But I somehow agree that their chemistry is really strange. It's there, but I don't really know how to describe it.
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On 2gether Apr 4, 2020
Title 2gether Spoiler
LOVE the series, but if everyone out there really thinks this is a good plot, then I'm losing faith in humanity. Getting rid of a stalker by asking some stranger to be your fake boyfriend. Said stranger is flirting with you everywhere (even if the stalker isn't around), gets jealous when you're talking to a girl and wants you to promise not to flirt with anybody else. Still our hero doesn't know how the guy really feels - even after a confession when the fake boyfriend was drunk - and wants to make him jealous with a fake girlfriend. Poor Prae, what was her role again? Didn't show Sarawat enough jealousy already because of her? Talking about a repetitive plot here. In Ep 5 and 6 they did nothing else than drink and suffering from memory loss (or pretending they don't remember). In Ep 7 fake flirting again, lots of jealousy (suddenly our hero thinks the fake boyfriend has the hots for a random girl) we discover everyone and his dog is gay, P'Dim had hot make-up sex with Green and everything was a lie to begin with. Dear Jesus ... Then we get a confession (a real one this time) and see for the third (!!) time Tine's surprised Pikachu-face after Sarawat kisses him. Good thing that this silliness is highly entertaining, otherwise I would slam my head on the desk in constant disbelief.
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