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I think the chemistry was great at the beginning. Their interactions felt rather natural and not as cringey as in some other BLs. The romantic spark was missing but that made it exciting. We were all hoping for the slow development of a great love story. Unfortunately the love story ended when those two became a couple.
"I guess looks are really the most important thing when it comes to the fact how popular some bls can get."
I guess that's the reason why they care more about casting cute boys than about hiring a good writer and director.

Found that on YouTube:
Hello darkness my old friend~
I've come to talk with you agaaain~
Because a bromance softly creeeepiiin'~
Left its seeds while we weeere sleeeeepiin'~
And the horroooor... that was branded in our brrraaaain~
When our eyes was stabbed by that no homo gestuuure~
Still remains, within the sound of (wtf) sileeeence~
AND THEN IN THE NAKED LIGHT I SAAAAAAAW~
10k ppl maybe moooaaar~
Ppl talking withoouuut speakiiiiiin~
Ppl hearing withooouuut listenin!~
Ppl writing comments, that no one saaaaaaw~
Pro ending commeeents given zeroooo??~
And then I said ya fools, in this restless nightmare we walk alooone~
They got paid and care no mooooaar~
Shitty directing/writing in bl ain't nothing neeeew~
So hello my darkness old frieeeend~
I've come to talk with you agaaaiiin~

OH MY GOD! Now I watched it! I didn't want to but after so many people talked about it. That high-five was HILARIOUS. I'm not even mad about it. I have tears of laughter in my eyes.

Does anybody know what Gmmtv is planning with Bright and Win? After I got over my disappointment I feel like giving them a second chance with a new series. Could be interesting. Or not. I don't want a season 2, though. I have seen Bright has 3,8m followers on Instagram. That's just crazy ... I cannot imagine that they don't take advantage of his popularity.

"This genre is only recently starting to gain more audience and it requires time to evolve and improve."
Honestly, I think it's not evolving at all. I also thought those series would get better with time because of the international fan support (don't know how much they gain from that, though), but it's not happening. 2gether is such a good example. There was so much potential and they wasted it. They could have told a nice and warm love story between two very different characters. They could have shown us how those characters grow and overcome hardships. What we got were repetitive and childish jealousy plots, love rivals, lots of misunderstandings and two main characters who don't even behave like lovers. Sigh. The storytelling wasn't good and/or mature. This was just so ... argh.
Talking about Why r u? I dropped it because the characters had no personality. There was no story. I don't know ... very frustrating. But the chemistry and love scenes were nice. Unfortunately that's not enough for me to keep watching. I want to feel some excitement and that's only happening if there is a good story with good characters. Many viewers only want some boy-boy-action, so they give it such a high rating. That's also a reason why I think the genre is not evolving. We have silly rom-coms without any steamy scenes and on the other hand some softporn without any story. They should really look for better writers but I feel like the bad writing is somehow intentional. Probably deep and mature writing wouldn't appeal to the majority of BL fans.

Well, I rated 2gether with a solid 5, lol. Of course Trapped was better. I rated it with 8,5, but it was still a mess.

I honestly don't care what kind of affection is displayed or how much is displayed. I just want it to feel NATURAL and I want a series to be WELL WRITTEN. That's it. Couples like in TharnType and Why r u? have good chemistry and good kissing/sex scenes, but the stories and personalities aren't great/likeable. Still people go crazy over them. I mean ... seriously ... what is this even about? Most of BL fans are rather young heterosexual women who think two boys being together is "cute". There is nothing cute about anal sex, just saying. The whole genre has a problem, the fandom has a problem. This never was and never will be about the realistic representation of LGBT couples. This isn't even about a realistic portrayal of any kind of love story (who has such silly problems like Wat and Tine?). We have either smut (Thrantype, Why r u?) or very soft stuff (DBK, 2gether). But all of them lack any depths and are mostly cheesy and romanticized. To complain about the lack of affection and saying it's homophobic will lead to more smut stuff. Great. We should rather complain about the lack of good writing. I feel like there is no intention to produce good stories. It's just about making money with good looking guys. It's like Kpop.

But the series itself are like Kpop. This is just about cute boys doing cute things. About pleasing an audience with storylines that could be produced by a computer. Like Kpop is only about cute boys who do cute dancing and singing with the same boring melodies. The BL genre is very restricted. It always follows the same genre rules. It's made for a very young and easy to impress audience who is not interested in good storytelling but in seeing cute boys doing cute things.

The people on this site are very critical and it's very, very rare that they don't complain about a series. 2gether was one of those very rare cases. I remember that at the beginning 99% were praising it and writing positive comments. But the series went downhill somewhere in the middle. I mean, you can love it for the the cute boys etc., but the storytelling was atrocious and the chemistry got lost along the way.

I didn't watch Right and Wrong unfortunately, but I heard good things about it. So maybe it's the best HIStory series ever made.

LMAO

They said in interviews their workshops were more like playing soccer or eating together. I always had the impression that Bright is rather hard to approach and Win is new in the business ... so ... I guess it was difficult for them to get close, and they needed more time compared to other couples which unfortunately they didn't get.

Lol, I didn't watch it yet. Maybe I should?

The cops were portrayed like a bunch of kids and the story didn't "flow" right. I rewatched it twice to understand the whole mafia plot and can say it wasn't done very well. They had a lot of unnecessary cliche BL scenes and silly humor in the first half and later on only drama. It wasn't balanced out AT ALL. The relationship also changed in the second half. The characters became rather one-dimensional. It felt like there were two different writers. When I think about a well written HIStory series Boundary Crossing comes to my mind. It wasn't that complex or new and it was rather rushed and unfinished, but at least it wasn't all over the place like Trapped and MODC. I don't know if the writers are to blame or those who put the scenes together. The same with 2gether btw. It's all so choppy.

Trapped was a mess too. There is a serious lack of good writers.

Ep 6 was good too, one of my favorites, when Tine realized his feelings and the final scene when they were on the concert ... but after that ... god knows what happened. It became unwatchable for me.

People are always saying they are giving their best. Don't tell me this was "their best"? So many adults and professionals are working on those series, and they cannot come up with something better? They had charismatic actors, good characters (there was HUGE potential), they had some good music, the whole Scrubb theme was pretty nice, they had actors who could even play the guitar for real - and this is the result? The BL genre has a big problem. I'm honestly amazed how bad this got after such a good start. I have never seen a BL series with so much potential. Yes, the idea was silly from the beginning, but there was a lot to love. They could have done so much more with the characters. But they didn't. I'm still confused why the acting became so bad along the way.

I said I could write a better story. Well ...
First of all, don't make everyone gay. This is not realistic. Two brothers being gay? Very unlikely. And here it even happens twice. If you want more gay couples, develop the relationship between Green and P'Dim. Not that I'm a fan of them, but their story was essential to the plot, so develop it properly. I still don't know what was going on between those two. I really loved how they introduced Sarawat's brother in Ep 4. He had great chemistry with Tine and I loved it how he tried to prevent Tine from flirting with Pear. It would have been nice (and funny) to see how Tine develops some kind of relationship with his brother-in-law. But nope. We have to give the brother a (male) love interest too. And it's Mil. Great. In Ep3 we have seen that Sarawat and Tine are VERY different people. Tine is more simple-minded, easy going, Sarawat is more complex, an introvert, an artist. How will this work out? It's a very interesting concept and got me hooked back then. This was the chance to show us some mature storytelling! What we got instead was ... jealousy. Well, okay. I'm not against it per se. Use that plot once, maybe twice, but not in almost EVERY episode. Tine is confused about Sarawat's feeling so he makes him jealous with some random girl we have never seen before (in Ep 6) when Sarawat showed enough jealousy regarding Prea (and even asking Tine not to flirt with her)? Then in Ep 7 suddenly Tine is jealous of Earn (who is Earn?). They should have done two episodes for Ep 7. Sarawat had some great chemistry with Earn, they have a lot in common. It would have been nice to see how Tine is insecure because of her connection with Sarawat. This would also have been a great opportunity to go more into Sarawat's sexuality (because I'm confused about that). This jealousy makes much more sense than Sarawat being jealous of Mil, a guy, Tine dosen't even like or ever talked too. I would have been 100% on board if they went more into the Sarawat-Earn relationship and Tine's reaction. It's hard to see how your boyfriend has so much in common with another person. Of course you will feel insecure! Develop this concept more! Then the "break-up scene" in Ep 7. Why was Tine only wearing a towel? Is this a thing in Thailand to open doors half naked? They also ruined the confession scene by making Earn important (without developing her earlier). Sarawat saying with that sweet voice "Earn has a boyfriend?" to reassure Tine he is in love with him. Who was Earn again? Why does she matter when we haven't seen her in Ep 1-6? They were standing so far apart in that scene too. Yes, Tine is insecure, everything is new to him, but damn! In that scene I felt some tension. Tine was realizing his feeling in Ep 6 (Win's acting was great!), now there was the time to burst out that passion (sorry for my bad English). They should have made Tine kiss Sarawat. I would have been happy with a sloppy and awkward kiss. (The kiss in Ep 5 was great for example. Desperate, sloppy, but great.) There was so much potential to develop Tine's character at this point. To make him more lively (like he was at the beginning). Confused, jealous - okay, fine! But since they are together he lacks any energy and is stuck in this shy, insecure "bottom" role. So, what happened next? Suddenly Sarawat gets beaten up. I don't want to go into that silly plot. Mil again. What's the purpose of this character anyways? That Sarawat can show us his alpha male behavior? AS A WOMAN I'm creeped out by it. I'm not even joking. I don't think this is romantic, it makes me feel very uncomfortable. Then the violence gets so bad that Sarawat injures his leg (Jesus!). I'm not against the Man&Type romance, btw, but don't make Type Tine's brother (he can be his cousin, why not?). Suddenly they are living together, but don't behave like a couple at all. Jokes about condom bouquets when they didn't even have a proper kiss where BOTH moved their lips. Strange. One real kiss (nothing too passionate is needed) would have been enough to show us those two are a couple. Later on you can go into the domestic-cute-fluffy-stuff. But nope. Insecurity and jealousy again. Btw: I thought Sarawat is gay? Now he is bi? This is a mess. They should have done only ten episodes. Slow down the pace, develop the characters and storylines you have better (the casting is great, I love all the female actors), give it some time, make it deeper. Show us how a relationship slowly develops. Show us how those characters GROW! Make Tine stronger, more confident. Let him care for his boyfriend (and not only vice versa). But no. We got some typical "seme/uke" BL couple that doesn't show any kisses/touches. Everyone is talking about skinship. It's needed! Why is it not appropriate to show a proper kiss, but I have to look at the naked body of Sarawat and Tine again and again? I have seen their abs at least three times now. I think those scene are very sexual, but a kiss is too much? Funny how we don't see them half-naked since they are together. As if they want to prevent us from seeing their skin touching. Sigh.

The problem with the OPs comment is generalizing and saying "I can write better BL" with the implicit that it is because he is a [gay?] man.

I'm a woman and I make a living with novel writing. I think about writing and storytelling DAY and NIGHT. And this story is crap. Period. I don't know in which world someone can think 2gether is well written. I'm too tired to go into detail (like I did before many times), but the plot is repetitive and cliche. I agree with you on TharnType and TOL. Both were terrible written too. The author of 2gether is the same of TOL. No wonder.

I could tell you exactly what I would have changed to make this story better. Like I said: it's not that hard. This is not rocket science. Not everyone is an author, but this became so bad on so many levels like it was written by a teenage girl who fantasizes about cute boys. Maybe it was. Who knows? I'm too lazy to look up the age of the author.

I'm a woman myself and those fetish stories written by heterosexual women are making THEM look bad. I will sure not delete this comment.