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I only stated what I observed, that "cuter" stories are more popular. I'm not saying TWM Next Chapter is not liked because of the "bulky" guys, then TWM wouldn't have been a success to begin with. I just remembered that back in the day many people on YouTube said something like "I normally don't like muscular guys".
And it's true, this site is toxic. I don't understand why so many enjoy hating on a series and calling it "critisism". At a certain point everyone gets it. You don't like it? We know it! Move on. I dislike series like "Love by Chance" for several reasons, mostly because I'm too old for it. I feel like a pedophile watching those young, underdeveloped boys kissing, touching - in slow motion -, like it means the world to them. Come on! Talking about anal sex like it would be a normal thing. Jesus Christ. I constantly shake my head in disbelief. I remember the sex scene in What the Duck between Mew&Art - the most unrealistic sex scene I have ever seen in my life - porn included. People loved it.
But do I go around constantly bashing this series? No.
@bluesky: TWM had a terrible storyline, but compared to other shows like the 2 Moons it wasn't that bad. I could write an entire essay what I didn't like about it. But it was enjoyable and there were many beautiful scenes. I mean you have to think "this is a BL show", so it's okay. But objectively speaking, this level of storytelling is ridiculously bad. If I think about good storytelling in BL shows/movies I think about "Method", "Cutter" or maybe "Sotus 1" which sometimes was surprisingly smart. But that's it.
I don't really see how the Next Chapter is sooo bad compared to TWM. I honestly believe people are deceived by the many beautiful, romantic, sensual and cute scenes between Korn&Knock we got in TWM. But the rest ... oh my god. The whole Pleng plot was just bad and extremly unrealistic. It really felt like straight out of a fanfiction written by a 13 years old. How handy that there is always someone around making a picture when those two guys kiss LOL.

TWM was only popular because of Max&Tul chemistry and their hot kissings scenes. That's it. The story itself and the whole vibe was never something that's popular in the BL genre. Stories like Sotus or Love by chance are popular. Soft stories with lots of kindness, shyness, sweetness. Most poeple don't even like seeing two bulky guys in BL. I remember when TWM started many complained about it. Now, that the chemistry and their scenes are not mindblowing, what remains is not enough to please the audience. Just my two cents. I honestly don't care. I enjoy it.

Well, to be honest, I think Max und Tul aren't in their best shape, especially Tul. There are some scenes were I felt he could have done a better job. I never felt like that watching TWM. But I think it's mostly the fault of the script.

There is a lot of crazy hate and equally crazy love online. The whole world becomes more black and white with each day. That's something I'm aware since a while now. No idea where this development is coming from. I enjoy the Next Chapter as much as I enjoyed TWM. The scene were they exchanged rings and the talk on the phone in the last episode were well made. Those two scenes are one of my favorite Korn&Knock scenes ever. So don't be disheartened, it's just how the world works nowadays.

I don't know if it really was about his parents and not hurting others. I have seen the same plot in other thai dramas where one of the two boys is like "I cannot hurt my girlfriend and tell her the truth, but I will f*ck you even though it does not mean anything to me and I will hurt YOU instead which is no problem at all." I think it was like that in "Make It Right" and "Love Sick". I'm not complaining, but well ... maybe you have to be thai to understand and appreciate such a plot. For me it fells like bad storytelling. I remember that scene in TWM in the rain, after the flyers with them kissing were everywhere. They had a talk and even though Lazy Subber provided us with great subs, I didn't understand what it really was about what they said to each other. They just never were clear, is it about the parents, the family in general, about being gay, about society or something completely different. I mean, we all can guess, but they like beating around the bush. In BR and now in TWM Next Chapter Knock doesn't seem concerend about the whole gay thing at all. So if it really is true that he didn't want to leave her, because he didn't want to disappoint anybody, why was that conflict so easily solved at the end? I mean ... I really don't care that much. I'm just saying the storytelling was always a bit meh. I also remember that scene when he cried on the bed and thought about BOTH, Korn and Pleng. No idea why he cried. Becasue Plend kissed that guy? LOL

I didn't necessarily expect a fairy tale, I just thought their life would be different. Those promo pictures with the dog ... I guess it's just me, but I thought they would live in a small house (with the dog), being a "real" couple and having a couple life and different workplaces. I didn't expect they would still live in such a tiny flat (the whole kitchen is the size of a sink). Maybe most flats in Thailand are that tiny? It feels like they are still students. Are they? I don't get it, really. Are they working now or is this an internship? Seing Cho as some kind of boss is strange too. He looks too young for this role. Maybe I didn't pay enough attention. Also, what is Yihwa doing? Did she study architecture or what? And Korn&Knock are engineers like in Sotus? Because every succesful male in Thailand is an engineer? And they all work in the same place? Sorry, I know I'm ignorant.

He was pitying her ... yes, but ... I don't know ... is that a thing in thai culture? It was so strange ... he was with her for some months (I think) and now he couldn't leave her? Did he want to marry her? LOL He seemed obligated to be with her. Why pitying her in the first place? She is a gorgeous woman! There were enough men that wanted her which brings me to the scene where he saw her kissing that guy. How he reacted ... sigh ... Denying his homosexuality? I also thought that for a while, but they didn't explore that futher. He had a talk with P'Bright once, I remember. It was never clear if he thought being gay is bad or just not what he wanted to be. It felt like they tried to avoid this conflict alltogether. I expected more ...
And yeah, the chemistry is different this time. I feel like Tul is not really into it. But that's only my imagination I guess :p

I think people had just the wrong expectations. Seeing the promo pictures of them cuddling in bed with a dog ... I don't know ... It looked more like this would be about a mature relationship, a married LGBT couple, about acceptance and building a life together ... at the end it's a continuation of BR with all it's flaws ... I appreciate that they didn't change the personality of the characters too much, but at the same time I thought Knock&Korn would have learned something ... but no, not really.

I really wonder why so many people are always looking for puppy love stories. I mean, it's cute, but there is nothing better than some ANGST. Lol, I guess that's just me. But seriously, I got into BL because of the angst. I like seeing the boys all vulnerable and struggeling. That makes the happy scenes even better and more meaningful.

Korn&Knock are not couple goals. I agree with that. Watching the new season there was a moment where I asked myself WHY are they even together. In BR it was for me pretty clear they loved each other, but were insecure and unable to talk to each other properly. That's not that terrible, you can learn and grow. In TWM on the other hand I never understood why Knock coudn't leave Pleng and I didn't like how they made her evil and had to reveal to him her bad side, otherwise he would still be with her, I guess. No idea. Those two characters can both grow and change over time (there is a lot of potential), but I doubt it will go down this route. The storytelling in the whole series was always a bit weak to begin with. I enjoy it the way it is though. I mean, it's a series and not real life. If I feel entertained that's all I want from it. A relationship that's healthy, happy and perfect is not necessarily more entertaining (at least not for me). I enjoy more controversial things.
Farm&Brigth ... well ... I don't think I will ever be head over heels for them, but for me their storyline is more intriguing than TWM. This time they are at least at the same level somehow.
Yihwa and Cho ... I'm biased. Yihwa is my girl. I love her too much to be able to say something negative ;)

I wonder if it has to do with thai culture. There is no other country with so many sex reassignment surgeries. I would even say Thailand is pretty famous worldwide for their beautiful Ladyboys (not in a good way though, many are prostitutes).

LOL. If I would wake up in a man's body I would be bisexual for sure. I like girls, but I don't like being one if that makes sense. Maybe time is the cure? I started reading BL 18 years ago LOL. I still enjoy it occasionally, but my obsession is gone :(

I honestly think this can be better storywise.
I love TWM, but let's be honest ... The Farm&Bright relationship was absusive and hard to swallow, the teacher (Korn's sister) and young guy relationship wasn't that intriguing either. The only good thing about TWM (and it was reaaaaaly good) was Max&Tul acting and chemistry. There were many good written scenes and they always delivered. It was extremly exciting.
In Next Chapter Yihwa gets more screentime which is always a good thing. Cho is playing his role pretty well too. The guy is more charming than I thought. Farm&Bright is getting interesting, I mean, it's really getting interesting. I never thought I would say that, but I look forward to it.
Then the parents ... it's entertaining and the humor works for me.
The only problem I see: Max&Tul. Funny thing: seeing the trailer I thought this sequel would be bad, but Max&Tul would save it for sure. Now I feel like those two are the only ones who don't deliver. Especially Tul seem to struggle playing his role. The chemistry is good, but It's different. I don't know ... it's not that exciting. I must say I loved their chemistry in TWM and even BR (!) much more. Something feels off, but we will see. As strange as it may sound: I feel like they are just too comfortable with each other, so the excitement gets lost.

You're one of those hardcore BL lovers, aren't you? :P Brings back memories. I once wrote BL stories and was part of that community ;)

No interest in hetero couples? Then there is not much entertainment you can enjoy in this world :P Every f*cking story has a hetero relationship.

Well, I guess it's supposed to be funny and cute. Also, it's Yihwa. She is making a fuss about everything. I'm not bothered by it at all, It's not as akward as Sotus 2.

I'm not a fan of Farm's transformation, but it works. His relationship with the doctor is now much more intriguing.

The subs are really bad. I'm no native speaker and my English is far from perfect, but even I am aware that there are many mistakes. Also, like you said, it seems they translate some parts literally, without taking in consideration that it doesn't make much sense in English. Lazy Subber always added an explanation.

I just love Yihwa. They could pair that girl with anybody and she would make it work. I never enjoyed Farm&Bright, but since Farm became the "cool" rabbit this relationship is intriguing.

I really liked episode 1. That scene were they exchanged rings was beautiful. Also, Yihwa and Cho are nice together. And the intro scene ... LMAO. Not a fan of those fangirls, but that was really funny seeing what reality looks like compared to what they imagined.