Making this because it was hard to keep track early on on who everyone was in the Yin family. Lineal = child of first/true wife; Non-lineal = child of side wife/concubine Some spoilers but nothing that wouldn't be found in a trailer for the show.
The 11 Young Lords of Xin State: 1st: Non-lineal; military, lives in another state fulltime; has a teenage daughter; good husband and father; only in a few episodes 2nd: Lineal; Crowned Young Lord; Manipulative, selfish, horrible husband, abusive, okay with harm coming to family members, kickass wife, side-wife/concubine is FL's best friend. 3rd: Non-lineal; conceited but not malicious...okay for a little bit he is but we like the idiot for the most part; has the most non-registered wives, honestly his wives are the best part about his character, all of his wives love and look after/support FL. 4th: Non-lineal, 2nd's lacky, manipulative at times, very good at greasing wheels and talking with others. Very politically driven, loves his wife more than anything else, wife is the puppet master...snakes the both of them. 5th: Non-lineal, older brother to 9th(i think this is right) & a younger unseen sister, a lovable idiot with a heart of gold, marries the princess from Mo State aka FL's other best friend aka warrior princess. He grows on you...like a fungus. 6th: Non-lineal; ML of the show, Intelligent, thoughtful and kind, hides his true talents to stay under the radar of others, not willing to harm his brothers to get a leg up, loves FL and respects and cares for everyone in his household. Strained relationship with his mother, older brother to 11th and his mother's adopted daughter. 7th: Non-lineal, quietest of the young lords, respectful little snail that doesn't wish to offend others, loves his wife who is just as kind and as slow about things as he is, injured leg that gives him a limp. 8th: can't remember, died when young, rarely mentioned. 9th: Non-lineal, younger brother of 5th, too young to marry at the start of the show/doesn't like the idea of arranged marriages, loving, helpful, and adored by his sisters-in-law and his 3rd,4th,5th, 6th, 7th, and 11th brothers. ep40 has one of the best scenes with him and 10. normally found helping out with 11th or helping one of his sisters-in-law. 10th: Lineal, unfocused, asshole, thinks he's gods gift to women...he is not, conceited in a bad way, 2nd's mini-me in the making. frat bro energy. 11th: Non-lineal, 6th's younger brother, under 10 years old, adorable, mischievous/naughty, loved by everyone.
The women and their relationships to each other are the true stars of the show, but I don't want to give away those plot point connections in this comment as I feel it's better to see it for yourself. Very progressive slow-burn family/life drama with romance as a major theme. Sisterhood and Brotherhood are the main points.
We'll find out next week for sure but all signs point to yes. Spoilers below for episodes up to 6.
The entire property was heavily surveilled & fortified prior to the website's "security breach" & Jung Min showing up to "help out his old classmate's uncle". They watched him for days as he poked around. Jin Man has cameras on Jian, even at college, with Brother watching & keeping an eye out for her. Aint no way he would be tricked by a voice recording that didnt have his name invoked once. Jian has never called Jeong Jin Man "Uncle" when frightened, only in casual conversation. All she ever has to do is call out Jeong Jin Man 3x & whomever is hurting her will disappear & Jin Man will come for her.
He "killed himself" in a room that has a tunnel leading out of it. There is time missing on the cctv recording in the bathroom from when Jin Man was talking to Jung Min as he hung from the ceiling. That would give Brother enough time to stage the bathroom with blood & have drugs for JinMan on standby to make him appear dead. JinMan has known connections within the community after saving many families financially. It wouldn't be a stretch if the police detective helped him fake his death & then dissuaded Jian from an autopsy. One of the last things JinMan did was give Pasin a code phrase.
I think the dynamic between the eunuch and the young court lady was the most forced thing I've ever seen or at…
They needed to fridge a girl so they had to introduce a new one. 🤦♀️
for those who dont know what "fridging" means
"Women in Refrigerators" can refer to three different pages on TVTropes:
Disposable Woman: A female character, who is present in the story just so that she can be attacked and/or killed. Her attack spurs the story forward, and that's all. Stuffed into the Fridge: A character is killed off in a particularly gruesome manner and left to be found just to offend or insult someone, or to cause someone serious anguish. Website.Women In Refrigerators: The original website, created by Gail Simone, documenting the disproportionate tendency of female characters in comic books to be brutalized.
I personally don't understand the divide between team AkHee vs Team Sajo Hyun. They are two sides of the same coin in my mind. They need to work together to be whole. To me, they are the same person at two different stages in their life after trauma. I wish they would have shown that Wol cares for both of sides of the Prince/King as people have stated was done in the source material. Both Ak Hee & Hyun are guilty of sticking their head in the sand when confronted with something they are uncomfortable with...one drinks the other sews.
One is highly observant yet laissez-faire with his attitude, while the other is ambivalent & overly cautious with his actions needing evidence to bolster his opinions(using the book in court to keep track of everything). Both can ultimately be calculating & strong in their own way. They just have different strengths.
Did anyone notice those were real strangulation marks on PJH's throat and bruises in his face (not makeup) in…
Korea has some of the best special effect make-up artists in the industry. & it appears that this show had a sizeable budget. So my guess is they are fake. It's not uncommon for actors/performers to get a bit banged up from stunts/choreography, but im sure all hell would have broken loose if someone was actually asphyxiated on set enough to leave marks on their star. Even more so as scenes are not shot in sequence. There most likely would have been coverage(news or blind item) of any injury to a lead actor.
But I think he did....ik its sounds crazy cuz we all saw his dead body but other than that everything seems suspicious.…
tunnel into bathroom the repeated playing of the fake Jian recording saying "uncle" instead of Jeong Jin Man when scared. the glitch in the camera feed. previous use of drugs that physically alter the body or perception of the body. the cop being waaay to quick to say suicide & dissuade her from an autopsy. if he was working for Babylon an autopsy wouldnt have made a difference. Brother constantly repeating that there is a plan/plams in place for this & he trusts Jian's skills because JinMan trusts her skills to survive. we see that JungMin was not so subtlety looking around the warehouse & house right after they experienced a security breach on their system. 🧐
Jeong Jin Man went fishing. Someone bit on his line, Jung Min when he hacked the site. He is an extremely patient man. He couldnt get to Bale so he is bringing Bale to HIM after making his home a fortress/kill house.
Yeah, even though they showed his dead body more than once, a side of me still expecting him to be alive..
it was the faked illness on the mountain with drugs that kind of sealed it for me. But with an added whole ass tunnel that leads directly into the bathroom....puh-leazz...Like Brother isnt already setting up failsafe contingencies the second Jung Min showed up on their doorstep? Right after they had a firewall breach? Aint no way, aint no fuckin way.
Unfortunately, I do think he is dead. And will only appear in flashbacks. But hey, 2 more episodes to go!
A few things to support alive theory: 1. Large tunnel leading from where Brother is to the bathroom. 2. Drugs used to fake illness in a previous episode. 3. Filling the bathtub with water(most men do not do this) and it would hide the amount of blood lost. 4. Jung Min not witnessing it firsthand and no double tap confirmation. 5. The glitch in the camera feed in the bathroom prior to Jung Min walking into the bathroom. 6. The cop being dodgy about an autopsy and quickly taking care of the "investigation". Also I'm not sure Park Gwang Jae, the bus driver for the funeral, would only come in for that...I need to see him fight. I can't tell if they focused on his character because it was just a small cameo or if he will come back up in ep 7 or 8. 7. Multiple contingency plans in place for years if something like this was to happen. With Brother confirming that Jeong Jin Man has faith in Jian's skills to survive. 8. The cameras in the warehouse catching JungMin days before he comes with a voice recording that not once has a scared Jian calling out Jeong Jin Man's name.
Yeah, personal opinion, all signs are pointing to staged death to bring out all enemies to one location once and for all. Aint no way that man is leaving his niece alone to take down Bale. Everyone else he has faith that she could make it. Even gave her a ripcord with the extra exit strategy. She hasn't called out Jeong Jin Man three times yet. Until she does I don't think he will interfere before Bale himself shows up.
I wonder if they will take the time to show more of Min Hye and Brother being taught/trained by Jeong Jin Man while Jian is still young. I feel like ep 7 we'll get the Beetlejuice summons "Jeong Jin Man, Jeong Jin Man, Jeong Jin Man" and he'll finally enter the chat in the last 5 minutes or so, saving episode 8 for any final back story needed for the finally battle.
Bale isn't even an intimidating villain lmao he just looks like he's trying too hard to be crazy and it makes…
Yeah, I think this was the only way to get all of his enemies in one place at the same time. Not to mention get Bale out from whatever rock he crawled under. He knows that when Jian is actually scared for her life she wouldn't call him Uncle, but Jeong Jin Man. I just don't like how everyone but 3 people are down to follow the psycho that would rather kill you than save you. Yeah you might survive the mission, but if you so much as step out of whatever box he puts you in you're dead. They just must be psychos too.
With the pace things are going 8 episodes wont be enough to resolve anything. All current episodes are like a…
We have an entire movie's length of time before it ends so I think if they want to they could wrap it up nicely in a little bow for us. But they could also want to have more seasons as is popular with US/Korea co-labs. Either way I'm personally good with it, as this isn't dealing with as much post production as say 'Moving' needs, so it could be produced slightly quicker. The only issue would be the actors schedules all freeing up again, unless their contract had a multi season clause. I think they can pull it off with 2 episodes left as I've seen more accomplished in less time.
The longer time passes the more I think that he faked his death with the help of the cop. The fact that Jung Min didn't see it happen nor did he double tap to be sure he was dead makes me think it was staged for him. We see in episode 5 that there is a tunnel that leads directly to the bathroom. Brother would have been able to see Jin Man on the cameras and gotten everything ready for him. Fake blood to fill the tub and drugs to make it look like he was dead. He sent a coded message to Pasin after listening to Jian's voice recording over and over again. He must know it's not really her, as he would know her speech patterns better than anyone else. And if there is one thing we know it's that when Jian is truly afraid for her life she calls out Jeong Jin Man NOT uncle. I feel like she's going to have to summon him like Beetlejuice before we see him alive in current time. Yeah, after watching episode 6 there is no way in HELL he would leave her to Bale. Nope, I refuse to believe Jeong Jin Man would leave her to that psycho. I have officially boarded the Delulu Express, all aboard bitches, toot toot.
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Some spoilers but nothing that wouldn't be found in a trailer for the show.
The 11 Young Lords of Xin State:
1st: Non-lineal; military, lives in another state fulltime; has a teenage daughter; good husband and father; only in a few episodes
2nd: Lineal; Crowned Young Lord; Manipulative, selfish, horrible husband, abusive, okay with harm coming to family members, kickass wife, side-wife/concubine is FL's best friend.
3rd: Non-lineal; conceited but not malicious...okay for a little bit he is but we like the idiot for the most part; has the most non-registered wives, honestly his wives are the best part about his character, all of his wives love and look after/support FL.
4th: Non-lineal, 2nd's lacky, manipulative at times, very good at greasing wheels and talking with others. Very politically driven, loves his wife more than anything else, wife is the puppet master...snakes the both of them.
5th: Non-lineal, older brother to 9th(i think this is right) & a younger unseen sister, a lovable idiot with a heart of gold, marries the princess from Mo State aka FL's other best friend aka warrior princess. He grows on you...like a fungus.
6th: Non-lineal; ML of the show, Intelligent, thoughtful and kind, hides his true talents to stay under the radar of others, not willing to harm his brothers to get a leg up, loves FL and respects and cares for everyone in his household. Strained relationship with his mother, older brother to 11th and his mother's adopted daughter.
7th: Non-lineal, quietest of the young lords, respectful little snail that doesn't wish to offend others, loves his wife who is just as kind and as slow about things as he is, injured leg that gives him a limp.
8th: can't remember, died when young, rarely mentioned.
9th: Non-lineal, younger brother of 5th, too young to marry at the start of the show/doesn't like the idea of arranged marriages, loving, helpful, and adored by his sisters-in-law and his 3rd,4th,5th, 6th, 7th, and 11th brothers. ep40 has one of the best scenes with him and 10. normally found helping out with 11th or helping one of his sisters-in-law.
10th: Lineal, unfocused, asshole, thinks he's gods gift to women...he is not, conceited in a bad way, 2nd's mini-me in the making. frat bro energy.
11th: Non-lineal, 6th's younger brother, under 10 years old, adorable, mischievous/naughty, loved by everyone.
The women and their relationships to each other are the true stars of the show, but I don't want to give away those plot point connections in this comment as I feel it's better to see it for yourself. Very progressive slow-burn family/life drama with romance as a major theme. Sisterhood and Brotherhood are the main points.
Spoilers below for episodes up to 6.
The entire property was heavily surveilled & fortified prior to the website's "security breach" & Jung Min showing up to "help out his old classmate's uncle". They watched him for days as he poked around. Jin Man has cameras on Jian, even at college, with Brother watching & keeping an eye out for her. Aint no way he would be tricked by a voice recording that didnt have his name invoked once.
Jian has never called Jeong Jin Man "Uncle" when frightened, only in casual conversation. All she ever has to do is call out Jeong Jin Man 3x & whomever is hurting her will disappear & Jin Man will come for her.
He "killed himself" in a room that has a tunnel leading out of it. There is time missing on the cctv recording in the bathroom from when Jin Man was talking to Jung Min as he hung from the ceiling. That would give Brother enough time to stage the bathroom with blood & have drugs for JinMan on standby to make him appear dead. JinMan has known connections within the community after saving many families financially. It wouldn't be a stretch if the police detective helped him fake his death & then dissuaded Jian from an autopsy.
One of the last things JinMan did was give Pasin a code phrase.
for those who dont know what "fridging" means
"Women in Refrigerators" can refer to three different pages on TVTropes:
Disposable Woman: A female character, who is present in the story just so that she can be attacked and/or killed. Her attack spurs the story forward, and that's all.
Stuffed into the Fridge: A character is killed off in a particularly gruesome manner and left to be found just to offend or insult someone, or to cause someone serious anguish.
Website.Women In Refrigerators: The original website, created by Gail Simone, documenting the disproportionate tendency of female characters in comic books to be brutalized.
I wish they would have shown that Wol cares for both of sides of the Prince/King as people have stated was done in the source material. Both Ak Hee & Hyun are guilty of sticking their head in the sand when confronted with something they are uncomfortable with...one drinks the other sews.
One is highly observant yet laissez-faire with his attitude, while the other is ambivalent & overly cautious with his actions needing evidence to bolster his opinions(using the book in court to keep track of everything). Both can ultimately be calculating & strong in their own way. They just have different strengths.
It's not uncommon for actors/performers to get a bit banged up from stunts/choreography, but im sure all hell would have broken loose if someone was actually asphyxiated on set enough to leave marks on their star. Even more so as scenes are not shot in sequence. There most likely would have been coverage(news or blind item) of any injury to a lead actor.
the repeated playing of the fake Jian recording saying "uncle" instead of Jeong Jin Man when scared.
the glitch in the camera feed.
previous use of drugs that physically alter the body or perception of the body.
the cop being waaay to quick to say suicide & dissuade her from an autopsy. if he was working for Babylon an autopsy wouldnt have made a difference.
Brother constantly repeating that there is a plan/plams in place for this & he trusts Jian's skills because JinMan trusts her skills to survive.
we see that JungMin was not so subtlety looking around the warehouse & house right after they experienced a security breach on their system. 🧐
Jeong Jin Man went fishing. Someone bit on his line, Jung Min when he hacked the site. He is an extremely patient man. He couldnt get to Bale so he is bringing Bale to HIM after making his home a fortress/kill house.
1. Large tunnel leading from where Brother is to the bathroom.
2. Drugs used to fake illness in a previous episode.
3. Filling the bathtub with water(most men do not do this) and it would hide the amount of blood lost.
4. Jung Min not witnessing it firsthand and no double tap confirmation.
5. The glitch in the camera feed in the bathroom prior to Jung Min walking into the bathroom.
6. The cop being dodgy about an autopsy and quickly taking care of the "investigation". Also I'm not sure Park Gwang Jae, the bus driver for the funeral, would only come in for that...I need to see him fight. I can't tell if they focused on his character because it was just a small cameo or if he will come back up in ep 7 or 8.
7. Multiple contingency plans in place for years if something like this was to happen. With Brother confirming that Jeong Jin Man has faith in Jian's skills to survive.
8. The cameras in the warehouse catching JungMin days before he comes with a voice recording that not once has a scared Jian calling out Jeong Jin Man's name.
Yeah, personal opinion, all signs are pointing to staged death to bring out all enemies to one location once and for all. Aint no way that man is leaving his niece alone to take down Bale. Everyone else he has faith that she could make it. Even gave her a ripcord with the extra exit strategy. She hasn't called out Jeong Jin Man three times yet. Until she does I don't think he will interfere before Bale himself shows up.
I feel like ep 7 we'll get the Beetlejuice summons "Jeong Jin Man, Jeong Jin Man, Jeong Jin Man" and he'll finally enter the chat in the last 5 minutes or so, saving episode 8 for any final back story needed for the finally battle.
I just don't like how everyone but 3 people are down to follow the psycho that would rather kill you than save you. Yeah you might survive the mission, but if you so much as step out of whatever box he puts you in you're dead. They just must be psychos too.
I think they can pull it off with 2 episodes left as I've seen more accomplished in less time.
The longer time passes the more I think that he faked his death with the help of the cop. The fact that Jung Min didn't see it happen nor did he double tap to be sure he was dead makes me think it was staged for him. We see in episode 5 that there is a tunnel that leads directly to the bathroom. Brother would have been able to see Jin Man on the cameras and gotten everything ready for him. Fake blood to fill the tub and drugs to make it look like he was dead.
He sent a coded message to Pasin after listening to Jian's voice recording over and over again. He must know it's not really her, as he would know her speech patterns better than anyone else. And if there is one thing we know it's that when Jian is truly afraid for her life she calls out Jeong Jin Man NOT uncle.
I feel like she's going to have to summon him like Beetlejuice before we see him alive in current time. Yeah, after watching episode 6 there is no way in HELL he would leave her to Bale. Nope, I refuse to believe Jeong Jin Man would leave her to that psycho. I have officially boarded the Delulu Express, all aboard bitches, toot toot.