Relationships are give and take. He’s the only one giving. I know it’s her first relationship, but you think…
We just saw how her family is around each other, I don't think she knows how to be physically affectionate with someone she loves. She might not know the difference because he's not a huge talker and she needs words to understand intent more than someone who is used to being snuggled up to in platonic/non-sexual ways. She's shy and self-conscious....also they really need to start turning their phones off when they are together. Her cousin has been on and off again with his girl for probably a decade or more and she only JUST found out about it. She's not seeing examples of physical affection a lot within her family/peer group. I'm 33 now, but I was shy as all hell at her age when it came to relationships. I loved physical contact, but didn't understand what physical contact meant to others so misunderstandings happened.
So I can understand YG. LYY isn't going to do anything she isn't ready for because 💚💚, but because he sometimes forgets to say it out loud....that's where miscommunication can occur. Shyness is a real bitch sometimes...ya know? 🤷🏻♀️ Taylor Swift's song comes to mind..."Hi, it's me. I'm the problem it's me."
The older sister needs to like take a step back and remember that the only things she knows about Lin YiYang is from when he was SIXTEEN and younger. Do you know how much of a little shit fully functioning reasonable people were at 16? Your actions as a teenager among your peers, who are now still friends with, shouldn't define you at 29. Honestly, the issues that people have with orphans or people who come from poorer backgrounds, but are now able to provide from themselves is so weird to me. I totally understand more traditional families, but like, I personally would think it's a win if I only had daughters and one of them didn't have to be a DiL to another family. Like think of the bigger picture people... It doesn't help that Yi Guo's mother is close with the other guy's mother though. Hopefully her objective view of things will become an asset to YG and LYY.
Relationships are give and take. He’s the only one giving. I know it’s her first relationship, but you think…
She needed words that he/they were still okay. He needed to give her something(food) to show his affection. The wires got crossed and both felt like they were being rejected by the other. She just got an ice cold glass of water to the face in the form of her family's response to him as just a player and person....she's freaking out and needs reassurance that it didn't change his view of her or their relationship. The physical affection he showed was way more aggressive than what she is used to from him in public and it concerned her. When his words indicated lack of interest in her being there it felt like a rejection to her. From the beginning we see that he is a gift giver/acts of service and likes physical touch, she on the other had likes words of affirmation and quality time. It's normal for there to be miscommunication after being apart for such long periods of time. Felt realistic to me, but I also have RSD(rejection sensitivity dysphoria) so sometimes I misread people I love's intent unless clearly stated with words.
Why everybody so mad at her ahah. Shes in her early 20s, first relationship. Its not really immaturity (this word…
This(what you said), and people are forgetting that they rarely see each other in person, and they deal with awkward beginnings each time. Getting reacquainted with each other and how they communicate when in person. Him not facing her and not communicating with words when she feels her family hurt him feels like rejection. She's shy and cautious around where families and elders are when he shows her physical affection(which is totally normal even in when someone is in a public relationship, but they aren't)...but the type of affection was more aggressive than normal and she could sense that and wanted to check-in with him. Her family is pushing her to be with her old friend more and were rude to him in front of, not only all of her family, but his as well. She is getting slapped with the reality of their future struggles and feels inadequate to navigate it. She was looking for reassurance from him, but in his need to provide for her(feed her) he ignored her need for eye contact and gentle affirmations. She needed words, he needed to give her things. The too needs didn't get communicated properly and that happens. Honestly, very realistic miscommunication in first relationships or relationships that are long distance.
that credit card as a birthday present was so lame, i was expecting something more creative from yi yang
Think of it like him not only dedicating his win to her, but also conveying that he wants to provide for her. He is trying to prove himself enough to eventually marry her, but because of his background he feels he needs to have all his ducks in a row so that she can have a stable home with him. I kind of thought it was cute, like "Lets combine our income"/You are who I win for.
It's not similar to LMLMV imo too. In terms of sweetness it might be, but story-wise, LMLMV's story development…
okay to explain why i say similar story & not just vibe(meaning personal feelings/reaction to the material). i consider 'storyline' & 'writing' two different things. 'storyline' is the over all picture, 'writing' is the individual touches/personality of the show. Bones vs Flesh/Skin Male Lead: Older male who is talented enough in his hobby/passion to make it his sole career(and be the top in his field) lives a life outside of the fame that could be attained to focus on academic/other professional pursuits, and is at the precipice of deciding where his path goes next, when he meets a girl who reminds him of his pure joy & passion in his field of interest.(not that they werent still passionate about it prior to meeting the FL) Female Lead: College age girl in her final semesters of school is just beginning her professional career when she meets someone who inspires her to not only reach for the stars, but to remember WHY they chose the profession, because they love it. Is patiently and persistently pursued by someone she admires for their talent in their common interest, encouraged by ML's friend group to date & insistent in their praise of their "no girlfriend, focused on work & school only" mentality until hearing/seeing the FL.
Sweet small-age-gap slow-burn romance. One is targeted toward a more adult/mature audience. also you can fight me, but LMLMV had the best OST of any drama i watched all last year(sorry Hidden Love). I wouldnt necessarily describe the relationship between Yin Guo & Lin YiYang as as fluffy as LMLMV male & female lead's. One is cotten candy sweet(fluffy), the other more like a rich dark chocolate(comforting butterflies).
Honestly feel like im giving tasting notes at this point...it's time for me to go to bed. also my neurodivergence is showing so that's fun. 🫠
Its really not similar to love me love my voice in any way except for that in both dramas story is just focused…
hobbies can be passionate. but at the moment im at in the show it is not his job nor final goal. he owns a billiard place just like how the lead in LMLMV had a stake in their studio. & the main reason i say "in story" is honestly because it is low drama & every friend ships them together & there is a junior-senior age gap. it's a vibe not a one to one. & LMLMV was one of my highest rated shows of 2023 so it was a compliment from me. the focus on hands & looks in AASOL are similar to the focus on looks & voice in LMLMV. the attention to detail and slow unfolding. both couples have someone who is at there talent height trying to make a decision for their future & someone who has been working hard & finally entering the professional arena. what im getting at is i like stories where the leads have things in common that they are passionate about & can connect to. interest at first sound vs interest at first sight both first loves etc. one major difference in this one is there has been almost zero development of supporting characters. which tbh im totally fine with. give me all the fluffy feels i can take with the mains.
I swear some people think she should have jumped on him the first week & others are like slow your roll their little buddies getting a little too intense there.💁♀️😐 I love their awkwardness & how he reminds her to practice & focus. While actively showing interest & pursuing her he makes sure that SHE isnt inconvenienced by HIS interest. His natural instinct is to take care of her. That can be overwhelming/confusing to someone like Yin Guo. Right now pace & story are similar to Love Me, Love My Voice....similar field of interest, the older more experienced in the field seeing it as a hobby, while the younger is pursuing a career in that field.
I saw some people complaining about how fast-paced this drama is but it seems nicely paced. This drama is more…
I feel like a lot of people arent realizing that she is in Finland for a few months. It takes a few weeks to fully warm up to the idea that the older, attractive, & talented stranger is serious about pursuing her. Knowing full well that if they do start to see each other there is a potential end date looming. Add on that neither of them have really dated prior & they are going to be a bit awkward in their approach. He's patient & willing to slow his pace to hers, but he never stops showing his full interest. He took an instant interest in her from the moment he saw her. She was in a new place with nowhere to stay in the middle of the night during a snowstorm with a sense of responsibility of protecting herself & her cousin, so her guard was up. To me it's a slow burn of two people who know what they want & can come to that conclusion quickly, but being new to dating/wooing are taking it slower. Hell, I had my first kiss abroad(first time out of the country) when I was sixteen....we knew each other for like 2ish days....this relationship is glacial in comparison.
Lin YiYang is extremely careful with what he says as what he said in the past was what sent him on a completely new life path. He doesnt want to make a mistake.
There are people that are interested in them from their past that show up, but nothing drama Llama level yet. More or less a stating of clear "this is my boyfriend/girlfriend, they are mine" from the leads to the outsiders. As of episode 14 it's giving 'Love Me, Love My Voice' vibes i.e. all of their friends shipping them together & giggling like kids cause their friend likes someone. Low drama, slow burn, with a slower pace that emphasizes looks & distance that grows smaller as they progress. The hand placement shots 🥰 Giving Mr. Darcy hand flex levels of 🦋🦋
I'm having major beef with the writers at this point. I just can't with Cheong Ta...a whole-ass shaman with NO ONE to leverage against them sides with the bad guy because "reasons" um...wtf? If you can talk to both Ak Hee and Hyun in the mind palace thing why wouldn't you give them a heads up? Also if you can come and go as you please to shoot a poison dart or whatever at the king, I think it's safe to say you don't have to do what the bad guy wants. They could have just as easily shot Sajo Yoong, but that would make too much sense.
I was truly enjoying this show at the beginning, but with the rape plot point and now stupid character choices I'm getting extremely frustrated.
Also, why is Sajo Yoong still breathing? The ministers all just witnessed his secret army men come out of the shadows and threaten the king. There is proof that he is not the late king's biological son...so the lack of actual action to stop him is more than disappointing. They also suspect him of murdering the late king, which he did, so yeah he should have been dead dead at the top of ep 11. 🙄🙄🙄🙄
5mins into ep11 and I want to tap out again. I think I need to watch a different show for a bit and come back to this one later. I really enjoyed discussing this show with a few of the people in the comment section, but I'm struggling to find the good things after that rape scene.
That's weird that this sageuk is presented everywhere as a rom-com sageuk with such main poster. It doesn't give…
20 episodes, for me indicates that they will be cover a large political/mystery plot point and have a developed romantic comedy aspect as well. Think Strong Woman Bong Dong Soon.
For those coming to the comment section now that the show is over to see if it's worth the 8hour watch time, short answer is yes, it's worth it. Lee Dong Wook is in every episode with 6 & 7 being from his POV prior to the events of episode 1. Even though the show is starting with his funeral, rest assured he is one of the main characters of this story. There is more than enough room for a season 2, but it ends season 1 in a good place story-wise that you wont want to burn everything down. If you have any questions about something that would be a spoiler just ask and I'll answer under a spoiler tag.
I honestly feel like dropping this especially after this week but then I won't know what happens hahaI wish people…
I keep a journal of the shows I watch to remind myself what happened in each episode. Even logging what was going on in episode 10 I had to stop at the 40 minute mark and take a break. I haven't picked it back up again. I just, for some inexplicable reason, didn't think that rape was on the table for this episode. It was jarring and honestly made me sick. I think it was the fact that it was false sense of him getting himself out of the situation only for him to wake later to find out, nope the person he cared for the most raped him while he was drunk.
Season 2 needs to be the "present day" time frame of season 1, but from Jeong JinMan's POV as he hunts down Bale and Babylon while they have their guards down and are focused elsewhere. If there were any loose ends those scenes can be a new "present day". There is so much potential for storylines. I know there is an IP for this, but I'm not sure what happens in the OG story. Even just walking us through the trap that JinMan and Pasin started to form 14 years ago. Wouldn't be shocked to find out that Lee Dong Wook already filmed all of the missing POV scenes for a season 2. Also if Jian doesn't punch her uncle after he pulls an Easter resurrection move I'm going to be disappointed in the writers and the character.
I swear if one of the first scenes from season 2 isn't Jian beating the shit out of Jeong Jin Man I'm going to be so disappointed. Yes, she loves him. Yes, she's happy he's alive. But that kind of plan, no matter how needed to get Bale's guard down, is fucked up and he deserves to be punched in that beautifully alive face of his.
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She might not know the difference because he's not a huge talker and she needs words to understand intent more than someone who is used to being snuggled up to in platonic/non-sexual ways. She's shy and self-conscious....also they really need to start turning their phones off when they are together.
Her cousin has been on and off again with his girl for probably a decade or more and she only JUST found out about it. She's not seeing examples of physical affection a lot within her family/peer group.
I'm 33 now, but I was shy as all hell at her age when it came to relationships. I loved physical contact, but didn't understand what physical contact meant to others so misunderstandings happened.
So I can understand YG. LYY isn't going to do anything she isn't ready for because 💚💚, but because he sometimes forgets to say it out loud....that's where miscommunication can occur.
Shyness is a real bitch sometimes...ya know? 🤷🏻♀️ Taylor Swift's song comes to mind..."Hi, it's me. I'm the problem it's me."
Honestly, the issues that people have with orphans or people who come from poorer backgrounds, but are now able to provide from themselves is so weird to me. I totally understand more traditional families, but like, I personally would think it's a win if I only had daughters and one of them didn't have to be a DiL to another family. Like think of the bigger picture people...
It doesn't help that Yi Guo's mother is close with the other guy's mother though. Hopefully her objective view of things will become an asset to YG and LYY.
She just got an ice cold glass of water to the face in the form of her family's response to him as just a player and person....she's freaking out and needs reassurance that it didn't change his view of her or their relationship. The physical affection he showed was way more aggressive than what she is used to from him in public and it concerned her. When his words indicated lack of interest in her being there it felt like a rejection to her.
From the beginning we see that he is a gift giver/acts of service and likes physical touch, she on the other had likes words of affirmation and quality time. It's normal for there to be miscommunication after being apart for such long periods of time. Felt realistic to me, but I also have RSD(rejection sensitivity dysphoria) so sometimes I misread people I love's intent unless clearly stated with words.
Him not facing her and not communicating with words when she feels her family hurt him feels like rejection. She's shy and cautious around where families and elders are when he shows her physical affection(which is totally normal even in when someone is in a public relationship, but they aren't)...but the type of affection was more aggressive than normal and she could sense that and wanted to check-in with him.
Her family is pushing her to be with her old friend more and were rude to him in front of, not only all of her family, but his as well. She is getting slapped with the reality of their future struggles and feels inadequate to navigate it. She was looking for reassurance from him, but in his need to provide for her(feed her) he ignored her need for eye contact and gentle affirmations. She needed words, he needed to give her things. The too needs didn't get communicated properly and that happens. Honestly, very realistic miscommunication in first relationships or relationships that are long distance.
Male Lead: Older male who is talented enough in his hobby/passion to make it his sole career(and be the top in his field) lives a life outside of the fame that could be attained to focus on academic/other professional pursuits, and is at the precipice of deciding where his path goes next, when he meets a girl who reminds him of his pure joy & passion in his field of interest.(not that they werent still passionate about it prior to meeting the FL)
Female Lead: College age girl in her final semesters of school is just beginning her professional career when she meets someone who inspires her to not only reach for the stars, but to remember WHY they chose the profession, because they love it. Is patiently and persistently pursued by someone she admires for their talent in their common interest, encouraged by ML's friend group to date & insistent in their praise of their "no girlfriend, focused on work & school only" mentality until hearing/seeing the FL.
Sweet small-age-gap slow-burn romance. One is targeted toward a more adult/mature audience. also you can fight me, but LMLMV had the best OST of any drama i watched all last year(sorry Hidden Love). I wouldnt necessarily describe the relationship between Yin Guo & Lin YiYang as as fluffy as LMLMV male & female lead's. One is cotten candy sweet(fluffy), the other more like a rich dark chocolate(comforting butterflies).
Honestly feel like im giving tasting notes at this point...it's time for me to go to bed. also my neurodivergence is showing so that's fun. 🫠
& the main reason i say "in story" is honestly because it is low drama & every friend ships them together & there is a junior-senior age gap. it's a vibe not a one to one. & LMLMV was one of my highest rated shows of 2023 so it was a compliment from me.
the focus on hands & looks in AASOL are similar to the focus on looks & voice in LMLMV. the attention to detail and slow unfolding. both couples have someone who is at there talent height trying to make a decision for their future & someone who has been working hard & finally entering the professional arena. what im getting at is i like stories where the leads have things in common that they are passionate about & can connect to.
interest at first sound vs interest at first sight both first loves etc. one major difference in this one is there has been almost zero development of supporting characters. which tbh im totally fine with. give me all the fluffy feels i can take with the mains.
I love their awkwardness & how he reminds her to practice & focus. While actively showing interest & pursuing her he makes sure that SHE isnt inconvenienced by HIS interest. His natural instinct is to take care of her. That can be overwhelming/confusing to someone like Yin Guo.
Right now pace & story are similar to Love Me, Love My Voice....similar field of interest, the older more experienced in the field seeing it as a hobby, while the younger is pursuing a career in that field.
Add on that neither of them have really dated prior & they are going to be a bit awkward in their approach. He's patient & willing to slow his pace to hers, but he never stops showing his full interest.
He took an instant interest in her from the moment he saw her. She was in a new place with nowhere to stay in the middle of the night during a snowstorm with a sense of responsibility of protecting herself & her cousin, so her guard was up.
To me it's a slow burn of two people who know what they want & can come to that conclusion quickly, but being new to dating/wooing are taking it slower.
Hell, I had my first kiss abroad(first time out of the country) when I was sixteen....we knew each other for like 2ish days....this relationship is glacial in comparison.
Lin YiYang is extremely careful with what he says as what he said in the past was what sent him on a completely new life path. He doesnt want to make a mistake.
As of episode 14 it's giving 'Love Me, Love My Voice' vibes i.e. all of their friends shipping them together & giggling like kids cause their friend likes someone. Low drama, slow burn, with a slower pace that emphasizes looks & distance that grows smaller as they progress. The hand placement shots 🥰 Giving Mr. Darcy hand flex levels of 🦋🦋
I just can't with Cheong Ta...a whole-ass shaman with NO ONE to leverage against them sides with the bad guy because "reasons" um...wtf? If you can talk to both Ak Hee and Hyun in the mind palace thing why wouldn't you give them a heads up? Also if you can come and go as you please to shoot a poison dart or whatever at the king, I think it's safe to say you don't have to do what the bad guy wants. They could have just as easily shot Sajo Yoong, but that would make too much sense.
I was truly enjoying this show at the beginning, but with the rape plot point and now stupid character choices I'm getting extremely frustrated.
Also, why is Sajo Yoong still breathing? The ministers all just witnessed his secret army men come out of the shadows and threaten the king. There is proof that he is not the late king's biological son...so the lack of actual action to stop him is more than disappointing. They also suspect him of murdering the late king, which he did, so yeah he should have been dead dead at the top of ep 11. 🙄🙄🙄🙄
5mins into ep11 and I want to tap out again. I think I need to watch a different show for a bit and come back to this one later. I really enjoyed discussing this show with a few of the people in the comment section, but I'm struggling to find the good things after that rape scene.
Lee Dong Wook is in every episode with 6 & 7 being from his POV prior to the events of episode 1. Even though the show is starting with his funeral, rest assured he is one of the main characters of this story.
There is more than enough room for a season 2, but it ends season 1 in a good place story-wise that you wont want to burn everything down.
If you have any questions about something that would be a spoiler just ask and I'll answer under a spoiler tag.
Season 2 needs to be the "present day" time frame of season 1, but from Jeong JinMan's POV as he hunts down Bale and Babylon while they have their guards down and are focused elsewhere. If there were any loose ends those scenes can be a new "present day". There is so much potential for storylines. I know there is an IP for this, but I'm not sure what happens in the OG story. Even just walking us through the trap that JinMan and Pasin started to form 14 years ago. Wouldn't be shocked to find out that Lee Dong Wook already filmed all of the missing POV scenes for a season 2. Also if Jian doesn't punch her uncle after he pulls an Easter resurrection move I'm going to be disappointed in the writers and the character.