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Replying to moonchild Feb 13, 2024
I don't get the rating and hate for this drama at all. Sure, it's not perfect but it's definitely not bad, let…
I think a lot of it can be boiled down to personal experiences/what other shows they've watched. Depending on how much media you consume this could be 1 of 100 similar stories that you've seen so you are better at spotting potential flaws. But if you've only seen a few shows that are similar it might seem fine in comparison.
Looking at the stats this is very much targeting a younger audience than I am used to. I'm 33 for reference. I'm not sure what the venn diagram is looking like for age and who is and isn't enjoy it, but it's honestly something I would be interested in.
Replying to StrayKidsSunshine Feb 13, 2024
Title Love Song for Illusion Spoiler
I understand everyone has their opinion and I know everyone can say what they want. So I'm not here to tell others…
(an aside, putting this under spoiler because I didn't realize I wrote an essay in response until I posted the comment😳 )
Well said.
When critiquing something sometimes people are bringing a whole bunch of stuff from their personal perspective and trying to say that they are being objective, when they are actually being subjective. Knowing the difference is important. In an almost anonymous comment section, unless the writer states their personal bias/reasons there is no way to know if what they are saying is a universal truth or just a personal one.

I must admit, as a 33 year old woman, who has watched an ungodly amount of media(from many countries), there are parts of this show I am personally struggling with. The actors are doing their jobs(and well), but there are certain aspects of the writing in the last few episodes(ep9 & 10) that are extremely triggering for me. Because of *my* past with SA, I was very thrown during one scene and haven't been able to shake it. When I'm prepared for it, it's normally not a big deal, like I watch Law&Order:SVU and am good to go most episodes. With the late king I was prepared for potentially triggering imagery/conversations.
Some of the writing is leaning too heavily on very common troupes, but if you are okay with that you might enjoy their take on those themes. Just because *I* have issues with it doesn't mean *you* will.

Also, I've been guilty of being emotional in a comment section or two after seeing something and needed to vent about it. But always take an angry/frustrated rant with a grain of salt. And don't be afraid to ask a user to elaborate on WHY they dislike something. The majority of us can articulate our feelings once we've given ourselves a second to look back on why we reacted like we did. (excluding trolls which for some reason this comment section in particular was having issues with a few weeks back)

ANYWAY....I'm glad you're still enjoying it. And I might reach out to ask you some questions about the show as I have personally taken a timeout after episode 10.
Replying to MadelineMaureen Feb 13, 2024
When she spoke to him instead of communicating with words he went physical(kiss/embrace). She's an extremely shy…
She is a 22ish year old in her FIRST relationship...of course she's selfish? Like...? Everyone is a bit selfish no matter what age. But...was he really thinking about her feelings when he kissed her in that moment, no. He was jealous and trying to lay clam on her publicly, when he knows damn well that his girlfriend is shy about PDA in the first place, much less in a place her family could see.
She hasn't seen her boyfriend of two years in months. She runs into him and is so happy to see him. Then he talks to her mother and wants to comfort him and discuss it with him but he is acting cold and aggressive(the kiss) with her.
Instead of opening his mouth like the grown ass adult he is, he keeps her in the dark about what he's feeling and turns his back on her(for a good reason, cherries, but she doesn't know that, because again SHE needs words). From her perspective he was being a jerk and treating her like an object and NOT his gf who he can talk to. His jealousy, that she hasn't really seen much of, in that moment made him want to assert a physically clam on her. Boy practically pissed a circle around her.

If you are someone who needs words to understand and you feel anger in your SO's embrace it can be confusing and make you question what the hell is going on. It can feel like your SO is taking their anger out on you instead of working through the problem together. Again, she didn't realize that he was dealing with jealousy over another man in that moment.
It's a common misunderstanding in communication styles. They are human and make mistakes and jump to conclusions when they are feeling insecure. It doesn't solely rest on her 22 year old shoulders.
The anger this comment section has for the emotions of 22 year old woman is giving major internalized misogyny.
Flaws are normal and having a flaw doesn't make you less worthy of someone who also has flaws. They would be boring as all get out if they didn't have some flaws as characters.
Replying to nolatoo Feb 13, 2024
I don’t get it—why was she mad at him?
When she spoke to him instead of communicating with words he went physical(kiss/embrace). She's an extremely shy person and not only was it in public, but her family members could have turned the corner at any second. When she tried again to ask him if he was okay and specifically what he was thinking after that interaction with her family he turned his back on her without explaining that he was looking for food that he had gotten her. She thought he was ignoring her and being cold. Because they were in a time crunch they couldn't resolve it in the moment, and afterward it felt like a larger misunderstanding than it was so neither one reached out. He wanted a second to process and then speak in person. She needed to know that he still was in it with her, and that he wouldn't ignore her after the way her mother treated him. Because he never texted her that night she was mad and contacted her team to pick her up instead of waiting for him to contact her.
Pretty much feelings were hurt. LYY couldn't process his jealousy and frustration at still feeling as though he is lacking in front of her family, while a man who likes her and is liked by her family sits next to her feeding her(putting dishes on her plate). YG read the situation wrong. She relies on words more than he does a lot of the time. So normal growing pains for a new couple. (yes, they've been together for 2 years at this point, but that was mainly long distance with very short periods of in person contact. They need to relearn how to communicate with one another.)
Replying to MadelineMaureen Feb 12, 2024
I keep a journal of the shows I watch to remind myself what happened in each episode. Even logging what was going…
I use a bullet journal so I can customize it how I want. tbh MDL can log all the info I'm recording I just like to write things out longhand and have a physical copy to look back on.
A small zink printer(like an HP Sprocket) for the posters of the the shows/movies also comes in handy. I normally do a 4 photo collage so I'm not wasting printer paper nor space in the notebook. It would take up a 5x8 square space in a bullet journal.
Replying to MadelineMaureen Feb 12, 2024
My take: She is shy and insecure(not feeling as stable as she did 30 minutes ago) in her long distance relationship…
Therapy and my friends and family are very good at communicating with me and I with them about what is said verses what was "heard". Recognizing that I only have responsibility over my own reactions and how I go about fixing misunderstandings.
Replying to MadelineMaureen Feb 12, 2024
probably either a cut scene showing the change of position or a flipped scene meaning the actually footage is…
Lack of first hand experience does not, in my mind, equate to lack of knowledge about certain...umm...subjects😏. What he needed advice for was talking to/dating a girl.
If this was any other show/country I would say that his character maybe hasn't "dated" but you don't have to "date" a hookup...ya know? Looking at you Japan/USA looking at YOU.
Replying to MadelineMaureen Feb 12, 2024
My take: She is shy and insecure(not feeling as stable as she did 30 minutes ago) in her long distance relationship…
Oh i have RSD so the anger made sense to me. It's an irrational feeling that stems from frustration/pain, not actual anger at the person. What can be brushed off as an offhanded remark for some, I feel like I've been delt a physical blow. So from my perspective I can understand her instinct to pull away. And I can also understand his hesitance to go after her immediately. They'll work it out. This is normal.
Replying to MadelineMaureen Feb 12, 2024
probably either a cut scene showing the change of position or a flipped scene meaning the actually footage is…
They talked about how she always thought the scene in Titanic was sort of romantic with the hand on the glass...oblivious to what was going on in that scene...he giggles about it a bit(knowing she didn't quite get the subtext of the scene). Also it's kind of call back to episode 1 where he saw her through a fogged up window as she drew a frowny face, but now they are the ones fogging up the window together. 😏😉
Replying to noodletales Feb 12, 2024
It’s Qingming, the Chinese festival/holiday designated for visiting ancestors’ graves. It wasn’t some sort…
To add onto your comment as it's not explicitly stated in the show it's early April in the timeline. So they've been dating for a little over 2 years.
Replying to twinty Feb 12, 2024
Then he took her hands and you see them holding hands and the scene changed to outside with the sound of music…
They talk about the Titanic and the hand on the glass scene. He knows what the scene was about SHE does NOT know what was happening in that scene....you can see him giggle to himself about it. They might have made out, but he(I would hope) would never let her first time be in a car....like what?
Replying to Tkcjt Feb 12, 2024
Yep, I did and laughed...Also in earlier ep. there was a scene when they in the train and LYY checks his watch…
The train wasn't moving because it was at a stop on the line. He was updating her on how much longer after that they have left together.
Replying to itskeana Feb 12, 2024
Don't worry guys conflict will bring them together even stronger and judging by the future ep previews, the angst…
With how YG and LYY never hid their relationship at competitions and both clubs are fully aware of there relationship to one another...her screenname on her SNS....I can understand the older generation not knowing anything even after 2ish years of them being together....But the sister who is closer to the age of LYY, yeah wouldn't be shocked if she knew about their relationship and is jealous.
Replying to minijini Feb 12, 2024
geez, she made a mistake when she was little and everyone still holds a grudge. her brother yingou is noisy..…
The pronouns are confusing me on the comment, but LYY was 16 when he had a conflict with the adults at a match. The older sister is leaving things out is obviously bias in some way. We saw the way she was treating the staff at the restaurant...she doesn't feel like a nice person.
I think the 10 year old thing is when the boys fought each other(ML and Older male cousin), but I feel like we are missing the whole story as no one else who was present or involved holds any kind of grudge about it.
Replying to twinty Feb 12, 2024
Also about ep 15 as I mentioned before... how did LYY end up on the left side of the car and YG on the right?
probably either a cut scene showing the change of position or a flipped scene meaning the actually footage is flipped so left is right and right is left.
Replying to Zurigaga Feb 12, 2024
Just finished 18 and I’m annoyed at YG… did she go to pacify him or to make him more unhappy. Her boyfriend…
My take: She is shy and insecure(not feeling as stable as she did 30 minutes ago) in her long distance relationship and needed him to talk to her. He wanted physical reassurance, she wanted verbal. He didn't communicate that he was looking for something he got for HER in the car. She took it as him avoiding her and felt rejected.
Yes, there could have been better communication, but this is probably the first time they've seen each other in months in person and there are going to be growing pains. Honestly felt really realistic, because even healthy relationships can have small misunderstandings. The only reason it didn't get resolved in the moment was because her family was around.
Small aside cause I keep thinking about it. They ate like way too fast imo...like no, stay, catch up a bit more so YG and LYY have time to talk it out.
Replying to AimesSera Feb 12, 2024
She’s just being petty. She liked him when they were younger that’s why she’s still holding the grudge.…
really? 🫖🍵☕️
Replying to twinty Feb 11, 2024
I agree it is not really a fight. She was already so emotional over the way her mother treated him and was feeling…
Yeah the family part was like a knife bro...
Like his family(YG) is at the table that he was just rejected from...ouch. Double ouch when you remember his only living family is in the next room witnessing the rejection with the knowledge that it's his gf's family.