Long as hell comment because I didn't realize I had so much to get off my chest after binge watching the first 12 episodes Sunday and finishing episode 13 today.
Therapy could do so much for the main characters. Luke is constantly falling back into the same behavior he saw/experienced from his own father, and ends up hurting the people who care for him.
Flora is talented at her job but insecure in almost everything she does. She's still so young and being held to a standard that just isn't normal for someone her age. I'm not talking about standards at work perse, more so relationship standards. But when you are dating your superior from work everything becomes grey and burled. This is why it's so important to not get romantically involved with someone who can effect your promotions/reviews within your company/workplace if you are new to the industry. It would be one thing if they never interacted with one another at work and he was only seeing the final draft of her work and had no say in her success or failure within the company.
I'm really loving the show because, as a 36 year old, I can see some of the same mistakes I made at Flora's age when it came to communication in romantic relationships. Pretty sure that timeline wise I'm the same age as her character. So those texts that you read to much or too little into. The insecurity in a new relationship where you're afraid to ask the tough questions you might not like the answers to. Putting up with things that you don't feel comfortable with just because it's been normalized by others around you.
The characters and story leave room for growth and change. I'm looking forward to how they mature and grow once they are separated and seeing how what they learn about themselves during that time could potentially make them work better as a couple together. Because personally growth is sooooo important. Because relationships are partnerships....and right now(ep13) it's not a partnership. They have trust issues and communication problems. Ep13 was the first time Luke actually called himself out on his own behavior and called it what it was. We can see that he at least is trying to be a boyfriend/lover, but oh boy does his mouth just get away from him. How many different ways has he accidently inferred that Flora is no better than a common whore. (I know whore is a harsh word but roll with me real quick)
He gives her an extremely expensive bag after sleeping with her that she interoperates as a hush gift.
He says she doesn't deserve pretty flowers, and that a common fox-tail would suit her better. This could be interoperated in a few ways none of them good. Fox-tail is a very common weed like plant so common and grows anywhere or....it could also insinuate at she is like a nine-tailed fox who has many suitors. (Did we ever actually find out who was sending her the flowers if her friends hadn't had the chance and he looked jealous as hell at every new bouquet?)
Instead of inviting her to spend New Years with him at his place he just asks if she has a passport and a snowboard without any context. She responses bluntly because of the still unresolved flower debacle. And so he just, LEAVES, to another country without explaining to her. I'm pretty sure that even if she had a passport travel visas could take some time depending on country. Sir...tf? I get that she's from a northern town and it wouldn't be unheard of for people from that region to do winter sports, but an actual conversation about her past would have helped with that assessment.
He says the only reason anyone would want to hire her is because she's cheap and obedient. DUDE. I never wanted her to slap him more in my life. The fact it took him sooooo long to realize what he said to her pissed me off even more. I need him to show his bestie what he actually texted to her. Hell, I'm pretty sure his doorman would jump him for what he wrote about his cutie patootie Flora.
I just know Lumi is going to feel horrible about what she's said when she finds out they've been seeing each other. I have not read the novel so I have no idea when others find out, if ever, of their romantic relationship while she was at Lime.
Who is this? The actor looks vaguely familiar but I can't place him and I can't find other pictures of him in the photos. Nor do I see anyone that looks like him in the cast list.
Literally just started episode one so please please dont take this the wrong way...but...is the ML's posture a character choice? Is he supposed to look uncomfortable in the suit he wears in his intro? Is it supposed to not be tailored properly? The characters around him are giving a reaction makes it seem one way and then the camera cut to him and he looked like his shoulders were hunched and uncomfortable/lost...please tell me this is a character choice and not actually indicative of how the character usually walks/presents himself. I'm truely not trying to be an a-hole, but I need to know if his posture improves.
I saw an IG post where I can’t remember the girl’s name, but she made an interesting point about censorship…
It also helps that the ML is very confident and secure in his own irl relationship and tends to go for more mature roles in general(from looking at this credits looks like he's outside the "idol" side for years even though he is technically an idol/singer). First thing i ever saw FL in was a pretty intense second chance romance movie. I think the production chose well for their leads when considering the script and what it would ask of them intimacy wise. Although sometimes fans truely help their idol, lately I've noticed that certain fandoms feel more like a shackle around the idol's ankle pulling them back down instead of letting them grow as artists.
Just finished the ending and honestly, I’m pretty satisfied with it!I actually love that they showed the endings…
first time ive been okay with few interactions with the main couple in an ending episode. i really have to give props to Ding and Deng for showing through their eyes how much love and affection Zhao Ling and Ting Yun have for each other. I felt more than satisfied because the main focus was building a peaceful life together. they got rid of their old enemies and retreated into a peaceful life. very happy ending. im just curious where their 6 sons went(apparently in the book they have 7 children one girl and 6 boys, though im not 100% sure on that)
Love the camera work and acting in the court with Zhao Ling holding the edict in ep31. Starts off at a low angle so you can see the devastation and grief on his face and then as the camera slowly pans up and his head his raised once more the calm facade is back in place for the Emperor and ministers to see. Using the edict itself as a shield to block his outward emotions from showing and wiping his expression clean. Not overly done, just the right amount of projection of emotions.
I Just Love how The Last scene of Ep 23 is a tacit mutual collab between Emperor - Zhao Ling - Grand secretary…
For me it was reading as (Emperor): *oh shit their trying to kill my weapon before I can actually use him* (Emperor): *looks to Elder Tian....buddy unless you want to be working indefinitely, you better think fast*
humm...So I'll be taking that with a giant grain of salt then. Fans, though sometimes an amazing source of news, are not always the most reliable. But I get that even if everything they say is true, that zls or her people wouldnt actually be able to comment on it either way.
do you have any articles sources? I haven't heard about this...ive only ever heard/seen positive things about Deng Ke as a director. With Prisoner of Beauty and now Road to Slpendor. Seriously if anyone has any links to articles or forums discussing this so I can better understand, it would be appreciated.
the only thing im nervous about for this one is the ending. I've seen all but one of the shows listed under the screenwriter's credits, and all of them either ended with ambiguity or honestly, devastating sadness. BUT that being said, I enjoyed those shows, I have just recalibrated my expectations, and am looking forward to the performances.
also think they have the wrong Li Ze Yu listed as the older A Sen. the one they have listed was born in '89, the one listed on all other platforms was born in '99.
pausing a about a 5th into episode 16 cause I need to sleep, and I know of I finish I'll be too frustrated with where we're left at to sleep well. Still loving the slow burn and yearning with them. soooo not looking forward to the inevitable separation.
I not trying to be harsh when I say this, but the ML's performance was the weakest of the actors in the main ensemble. I thought the brother had better chemistry with his love interest. Sadly even their friend when he was talking to the restaurant owner had better chemistry. The other part of the love triangle and the goofier friend felt more real as people. idk maybe it's because I reread the little blurb recently, but ML is described as "sunny, charismatic, and a social butterfly"...im sorry where was that? Overall the show for me was a 6.5...heavily dinged for it's lack of closing down their f-stop(feels like they were in portrait mode on a phone camera aka extreme shallow depth of field) and always feeling like they are in a computer generated environment for about 80% of the show. OST was pretty solid. And the 3 main girls' storylines, arcs, and performances were also relatively solid. but overall chemistry, cinematography, visual effects, & production just didnt do it for me. Im hoping others enjoyed it more than I did. it wasnt bad, but it's not something I'll be revisiting or even remember by this time next year.
I really hate when shows tell you over and over again how smart a person is only for them to REPEATEDLY be the stupidest most unobservant person in the entire show. looking at you Shen Zhi Li...looking at you.
pretty sure they have the wrong head shot for this actor....am I wrong? but that's Harry Song whose Chinese name is Song Qi, im pretty sure they are different people.
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Therapy could do so much for the main characters. Luke is constantly falling back into the same behavior he saw/experienced from his own father, and ends up hurting the people who care for him.
Flora is talented at her job but insecure in almost everything she does. She's still so young and being held to a standard that just isn't normal for someone her age. I'm not talking about standards at work perse, more so relationship standards. But when you are dating your superior from work everything becomes grey and burled. This is why it's so important to not get romantically involved with someone who can effect your promotions/reviews within your company/workplace if you are new to the industry. It would be one thing if they never interacted with one another at work and he was only seeing the final draft of her work and had no say in her success or failure within the company.
I'm really loving the show because, as a 36 year old, I can see some of the same mistakes I made at Flora's age when it came to communication in romantic relationships. Pretty sure that timeline wise I'm the same age as her character. So those texts that you read to much or too little into. The insecurity in a new relationship where you're afraid to ask the tough questions you might not like the answers to. Putting up with things that you don't feel comfortable with just because it's been normalized by others around you.
The characters and story leave room for growth and change. I'm looking forward to how they mature and grow once they are separated and seeing how what they learn about themselves during that time could potentially make them work better as a couple together. Because personally growth is sooooo important. Because relationships are partnerships....and right now(ep13) it's not a partnership. They have trust issues and communication problems. Ep13 was the first time Luke actually called himself out on his own behavior and called it what it was. We can see that he at least is trying to be a boyfriend/lover, but oh boy does his mouth just get away from him. How many different ways has he accidently inferred that Flora is no better than a common whore. (I know whore is a harsh word but roll with me real quick)
He gives her an extremely expensive bag after sleeping with her that she interoperates as a hush gift.
He says she doesn't deserve pretty flowers, and that a common fox-tail would suit her better. This could be interoperated in a few ways none of them good. Fox-tail is a very common weed like plant so common and grows anywhere or....it could also insinuate at she is like a nine-tailed fox who has many suitors. (Did we ever actually find out who was sending her the flowers if her friends hadn't had the chance and he looked jealous as hell at every new bouquet?)
Instead of inviting her to spend New Years with him at his place he just asks if she has a passport and a snowboard without any context. She responses bluntly because of the still unresolved flower debacle. And so he just, LEAVES, to another country without explaining to her. I'm pretty sure that even if she had a passport travel visas could take some time depending on country. Sir...tf? I get that she's from a northern town and it wouldn't be unheard of for people from that region to do winter sports, but an actual conversation about her past would have helped with that assessment.
He says the only reason anyone would want to hire her is because she's cheap and obedient. DUDE. I never wanted her to slap him more in my life. The fact it took him sooooo long to realize what he said to her pissed me off even more. I need him to show his bestie what he actually texted to her. Hell, I'm pretty sure his doorman would jump him for what he wrote about his cutie patootie Flora.
I just know Lumi is going to feel horrible about what she's said when she finds out they've been seeing each other. I have not read the novel so I have no idea when others find out, if ever, of their romantic relationship while she was at Lime.
The characters around him are giving a reaction makes it seem one way and then the camera cut to him and he looked like his shoulders were hunched and uncomfortable/lost...please tell me this is a character choice and not actually indicative of how the character usually walks/presents himself.
I'm truely not trying to be an a-hole, but I need to know if his posture improves.
Although sometimes fans truely help their idol, lately I've noticed that certain fandoms feel more like a shackle around the idol's ankle pulling them back down instead of letting them grow as artists.
(Emperor): *oh shit their trying to kill my weapon before I can actually use him*
(Emperor): *looks to Elder Tian....buddy unless you want to be working indefinitely, you better think fast*
Seriously if anyone has any links to articles or forums discussing this so I can better understand, it would be appreciated.
Overall the show for me was a 6.5...heavily dinged for it's lack of closing down their f-stop(feels like they were in portrait mode on a phone camera aka extreme shallow depth of field) and always feeling like they are in a computer generated environment for about 80% of the show. OST was pretty solid. And the 3 main girls' storylines, arcs, and performances were also relatively solid. but overall chemistry, cinematography, visual effects, & production just didnt do it for me. Im hoping others enjoyed it more than I did. it wasnt bad, but it's not something I'll be revisiting or even remember by this time next year.