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Replying to CaramelCat Feb 19, 2025
Title The First Frost Spoiler
he went back to her old apartment and heard the creepy guy and his friends talking about her, then he beat them…
It was to show that the legal/justice system doesn't always work for victims. How quickly abusers/criminals can get released on SA allegations, even when there is someone willing to testify. Because she wasn't physically injured they can't spend more than like 3 days to a week in holding. (that was what the novel mentioned anyway)
Replying to xiaonan Feb 19, 2025
Title The First Frost Spoiler
Before, during, and after
Jai Hu? Do you mean Jai Xu? if so it's again because of the time jump in each story.
We are at post university where Jai Xu has moved back to his hometown to work so he can be closer to where is father is hospitalized. He's not a main character in Yi Fan's story, because Sang Yan meets him AFTER she has already left Sang Yan.

If you're American, think of it like Sang Yan and Yi Fan are living in New York City and Jai Xu is living in Chicago. European, they are living in London, England while he is in Milan, Italy. Australian...They are living in Melbourne while he is living in Brisbane.
Replying to xiaonan Feb 19, 2025
Before, during, and after
Oh, Bai Jing Ting is one of the best actors in his age group, love him, extremely glad and grateful that he was cast as Sang Yan. I'm just saying Victor knew about The First Frost story when they filmed HL so he made sure to add "background" that the audience wouldn't see unless they knew his story.
Replying to nolatoo Feb 19, 2025
The drama only just started. My goodness. Give it time to develop. Also, that’s a huge spoiler. You need a spoiler…
Dude, the sleepwalking aspect has literally been in every description of the story. It's not a spoiler its a fact of the whole set up. They must of changed the synopsis on MDL, but it's the main teaser on everything involving this story prior. And it happens very early on in the novel. Because it's from her POV and she mentions repeatedly being more tired and hoping that her sleepwalking hasn't started up again.
Replying to Venus_02 Feb 19, 2025
the love feels comepletely one-sided and it bothers me... i'm putting this on hold for now maybe i will pick it…
They literally only ever loved each other like a little penguin couple. She doesn't even understand when someone is hitting on her(not in a creepy way) because her head is always on him. Hers is a quiet and shy love. She will turn the tables, much to Sang Yan' delight, when she finally gets the courage to pursue him. He is extremely patient and knows that she spooks easily. He's like a tree, growing roots just to give her a stronger foundation and shelter. Always there, always waiting.

She cares for him deeply, but because of her own issues, she feels like she dirties him/burdens him when they are young and she has no support system. She knows him better than anyone, she just doesn't realize it yet. She's not afraid of having people in his space and him being mad. She doesn't like people in THEIR space, messing with HIS things. He is precious to her, but she doesn't know how to navigate her feelings for him. She knows she hurt him, and she knows that she still likes him, she is just so in her head that she doesn't see that he is still deeply, madly, and irrevocably in love with her.

She will realize that he deserves someone who cares for him the same way he shows care and love, and she goes out of her way to show that. She's going to find the best most perfect pebble to present to him(this is a penguin reference).

I hope they adapt the video game. They keep hinting at it, but I'm not sure they will execute it in the show.
Replying to Vniverse Feb 19, 2025
I also deserve a Sang Yan 🥺
OMG your pfp 🤣🤣🤣🤣possessed Yi Shui i'm dead. Loved that scene.
Replying to xiaonan Feb 19, 2025
Title The First Frost Spoiler
Before, during, and after
Because his sister was oblivious for all of his high school days. And we time jumped in Hidden Love past the current day in TFF. So Sang Zhi's senior year, which is where we are currently at was skipped in Hidden Love as she didn't interact with Jai Xu.

In Hidden Love he repeatedly tells his sister that someone is pursuing him during her freshman year of university, she just doesn't believe him. He also rolls his eyes and smirks to himself anytime someone mentions relationships/dating. Go back and rewatch it after you finish TFF...Victor Ma did a really good job at leaving subtle clues.

Spoilers below....
Yi Fan literally showed up to the wedding reception mere minutes after Jai Xu took Sang Zhi home. When he is third wheeling super hard after catching them together, he's already been in a relationship with Yi Fan for months, and living with her for over a year.
On The First Frost Feb 19, 2025
Okay, so we are already on episode 6 and still no hint of her sleep disorder. Not dark circles being concealed, not her sitting in the living room in the dark, not her walking into Sang Yan's room....nothing, nada, zip. I figured with all the recent triggers they would have shown at least a hint of it. Even if it was something that people wouldn't clock as a sleep disorder without context from the novel.
Replying to MadelineMaureen Feb 19, 2025
Title The First Frost Spoiler
There is a bit of a running joke with the ML, Sang Yan. He actually has a very high IQ and his business is doing…
Just to clarify she wasn't raped, & it was her Aunt's brother, not blood related who sexually harassed her in the home they shared in high school. Her family, Aunt & mother, tried to get her to stay quiet & cover it up. A kind police woman took her in so she could leave the home & finish her senior year. This all happened the week high schoolers are filling out their university lists. She barely slept during her senior year because of the man trying to get into her room while her aunt was out late working at her restaurant. She would barricade the door to her room at night. (just an aside...why the hell did production give her a damn sliding door in the apartment she started at? she moved her bed to block the door, but all she did was put herself closer to whomever would be trying to get in.🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️)

Sang Yan, I believe is on leave from his job, I can't remember exactly. I can't tell if they've changed it for the show or not, but he didn't have to study much. Honestly always got the impression that he was on the autism spectrum, but that could be personal projection. It's a story of it's time, & it was a web novel aka wattpad level. So the flaws are going to be there storywise.
But the best part about fiction is that a perfectly empathetic, intelligent, and wealthy man can fall in love with every version of a broken girl & help her overcome her past with patience & care. I like a bit of fantasy in my romance just as much as the next person.
Replying to Esvar Feb 19, 2025
My personal opinion :I don't see any difference between a parasite and the ML , first of all a human should have…
oh to drop the show before YiFan's pursuit goes into full swing...
spoiler, she feels like he did so much for her & she wants to properly pursue him & try & court him. aka reverse the roles they previously had.
Replying to Snow_flake Feb 19, 2025
Guys is it worth the ratings? Just asking, although cant really see him as sang yan from hidden love. I have a…
It's not so much a spinoff as it is a parallel story to Hidden Love. This is Sang Yan from the perspective of his love interest(and his own internal self) not his little sister. I would hope a little sister doesn't see their sibling the same way a lover would. 😆
Replying to ahvi Feb 19, 2025
Bai Jing Ting's acting never disappoint 🖤! he pulled off Sang Yan and i'm so convinced he is made for this…
I love that I can tell he read the source material & took notes. From the way he even just hangs out in the living room to be noticed by her to the aloof & playful sides of him. I love that in every episode you can see him trying not to look at her at certain points(im not talking about the Easter eggs at the end, but the way he holds himself back & can see the tension in his body to not turn & look at her.)
Replying to Shiyi Feb 19, 2025
Don't u think experience change personality 🙂
One is one of many daughters in a loving multi generational house hold. The other was tossed out, abandoned, & then abused by her family....it's to show how though they were similar when they were little & became best friends in elementary, how life & time can change a person drastically. Her bestie stuck by her even when YiFan pushed everyone away. It's because of that almost childlike innocence that YiFan finds as much comfort as she does with her. She works her ass off, but she's still just a baby in her family. She has the privilege of being juvenile. YiFan had to be an adult on her own at 17.
Replying to apoorva Feb 19, 2025
in ep 6 sangyan says his family doesn’t care about him to wenyifan in present time but as far as I recall in…
i was like huh? then I looked at the time. I'm still at work 😩
Replying to Lusicakes Feb 19, 2025
Her kiss scenes were not that bad in born to be the one. we also got a BTS clip of their kiss in this drama aswell…
Destined, but that's probably a bad example as that's his actual girlfriend. 😆
Replying to MadelineMaureen Feb 19, 2025
The only issue i really have right now is the cinematography/lighting choices. They work well in a movie, but…
I read the novel almost 2 years ago. The manhua wasn't available at that time with any English translations.
Again what works in a movie or other media doesn't always translate well for a longer formate live action show. From an artistic choice stand point I understand why they shot certain scenes the way they did, but there are other times where it was extremely unnecessary & took away the impact of the other scenes because of over saturating the work with the same camera choices. Again there was a better balance in the 4th episode, but as someone who understands lighting/camera etc....they over did certain styles/techniques in the first few episodes.
Replying to Sweet Savage Feb 19, 2025
Where is the release schedule???
go to your browser for mydramalist & look at the photo section. They will release the schedule in a photo every week. im going to try & link this weeks. https://kisskh.at/photos/Px8rjR_3
This is the schedule for vip regular. With the extra episodes it actually goes episode 1-4, 5-6, 7-8, 9-10, 11, 12.
Replying to Lusicakes Feb 19, 2025
Her kiss scenes were not that bad in born to be the one. we also got a BTS clip of their kiss in this drama aswell…
Bai Jing Ting is a professional, & i have faith that he can lead her like LuSi lead Chen ZheYuan for the kiss scenes.
Replying to Sounova Feb 19, 2025
Title The First Frost Spoiler
Bruh the haters are really doing a great job, they are not sleepin i guess, from 8.6 to 8.3 when the new eps are…
The only issue i really have right now is the cinematography/lighting choices. They work well in a movie, but it becomes repetitive in longer format media. (I have a photography background so I tend to notice this more) Episode 4 looks like that is getting balanced out a bit more. NEVER, & I mean NEVER judge an entire work on the first 3 episodes alone. Many artistic choices will change throughout a production.

I realize this story isn't going to be for everyone, but we(readers of the source material) did try & give a heads up to viewers that this was going to have a darker subject matter than Hidden Love or other romance shows. Too many people are judging early or had an idea of what it was going to be & it not meeting their expectations for a story connected to Hidden Love.(insert eye roll)
Replying to MadelineMaureen Feb 19, 2025
Title The First Frost Spoiler
I remember him being someone on the same floor as her. Not in the same house. & it was supposed to be just banging…
It's frustrating that there were a lot of ppl last night victim blaming this character. & is really true that victims of SA/Abuse are at a higher risk of repeated acts against them. Predators can sense it & exploit it. (not only do i watch/listen to a lot of true crime, but I'm a woman in her 30s so this experience is not foreign to me)