Our black cat is black cating so hard in episode 4. Always in the same room when possible. He's all "show me affection....shadow shadow stalk...oh don't look over there...look at me...aren't I adorable...I'll even let you pet me if you ask nicely." 🐈⬛️🐈⬛️
to add to what Aries said she actually goes by 3 different names her birth name, her nickname with relation to her date of birth(first frost) & her nickname from elementary school. If I remember correctly Sang Yan's name is related to a sort of tree. Mulberry maybe....I can't remember exactly. someone help me out
Yes, and no. He is rich in money but also family love & friendship. She came from a decent background, but after the death of her father was bounced around & abandoned by her mother in favor of her new husband's family. She has been on her own since she was 17/18. His family is "comfortable" & he has his own money from multiple jobs/investments. You'll notice it more as he starts to add things to the house that he knows she likes, but is unwilling to buy for herself. He isn't stuck up, nor does he flash his wealth. His family is also extremely chill & not snobbish in any way, shape or form.
I'm currently Watching episode 1 but I had to pause it real quick when that scene appeared. For future viewers…
I remember him being someone on the same floor as her. Not in the same house. & it was supposed to be just banging at her locked door when he came home at like 2 in the morning or something like that. She gets him arrested after he breaks her door/coners her & she fights back. His friends blocked the hallway of her apartment & chased her down.
What should have happened early on to show why she keeps getting into messed up situations & stays closed off, is how her family treated her when she looked to them for help. It was only vaguely hinted at in like a 3 second scene. So a lot of ppl who haven't read the story are seeing her as really weak & a bad journalist who can't even speak up for herself. They sort of show that she tries to stand up for herself, but it's turning a lot of viewers toward hating on her & it's upsetting. I need them to show her recurring trauma/PTSD in a better way. (there are other ways to show what they have & other ways to start showing her sleep walking earlier in the episodes. She should look a bit more tired than she currently does in the show to show how she is different from the past & how she evolves once Sang Yan is back in her life.)
Do I need to watch Hidden Love first? Is it better if I do so?
Honestly watch Hidden Love after finishing this one. As they only focus on the leads in Hidden Love you only get dialog from Sang Yan about what he's doing while she's in college...no one believes him and it will make it funnier with the context you will get from this story. Hidden Love is also much lighter than this story, so you might want a fluffy drama to chase it with.
Why does sang yan always wear black? Someone said it before but I forgot.
Think of him like a black cat. He doesn't really care about being flashy or standing out. He doesn't put effort into things that aren't important to him...black is like a uniform to him. He also just likes black. He always gave protective grim reaper and lazy black cat vibes. He also thinks that it makes him less noticeable...it doesn't.
As an aside, in college he let the rumors of him and his roommate persist because he didn't like being approached by women.
I see them teasing the phone game...I wonder if they'll adapt that part of the story. Also, Sang Yan is obviously fine financially. The bar is the most popular spot in the area, he has another high paying job for fun that we haven't seen, and he is spending money on her and lying about why all the new appliances are in the house. Yall, he has money money, not just family money.
The "laziness" you see of him, is him just being what he is, a black cat that wants affection. So he places himself in front of the person he wants affection from as much as possible, and waits, every once in a while reaching out to tap her to remind her that he is there.
Hmmm, a bit hard to give an opinion. The story is okay. The pacing is nice, not too fast, not too slow. The actors…
There is a bit of a running joke with the ML, Sang Yan. He actually has a very high IQ and his business is doing very well. He jokes that it isn't, but it's the most popular bar in the area. In the novel it was more like a speak easy vibe. Plain on the outside on purpose.
He's playing on his phone so that he can be in the same room as her. He also actually does have a day job that they haven't shown yet. He likes numbers so much he works at a firm as a manger for fun. He has money money, not only from family, but because he knows how to invest.
Yi Fan, FL, downplays her beauty on purpose since she was in high school. No one wants to take her seriously because she is pretty. They assume that she uses her looks like others do...like the woman at her new job who she moves in with. The reason she doesn't really speak up for herself has been hinted at but not fully shown. The first time she is assaulted it is by a relative. Her mother disregards her and brushes it off. Her own mother had kicked her out of her house because the new step sister doesn't like that the focus isn't on HER. We see her in episode 4 for the first time.
Because of the shame she feels about what happened in high school she kind of becomes an easy target for others. She has no one to back her and they know it. She is kind and quiet. Every time she does speak up for herself it is covered up by someone. Like at her old job at the news paper. The boss harassed her and nothing happened even though he had done it to others. She's good at standing up for others, but not herself. She gets better at it later on.
They haven't even hinted at the fact she suffers from sleep walking regularly because she was constantly in fight or flight mode as a teenager and she could barely sleep. She is dealing with a lot of unaddressed PTSD. The character is behaving like someone who has not dealt with their trauma...because she hasn't....dealt with it.
The director wanted to add some artfilm attributes but somehow he failed to balance it well, so a beautiful story…
I think future episodes might right the ship, if you will. Even the difference in episode 3 to 4 was noticeable. Yes, there were a lot of reflective surfaces, reflected light, but not as much as the previous episodes.
For the first 4 episodes there were certain shots that were great, but there were an almost equal amount that I questioned the decision behind framing/lighting it in that way.
First impressions... The acting is there. The styling is there....the characters are being portrayed properly. So very pleased overall.
I do have some production technical gripes but nothing too too bad. So if that isn't your thing feel free to just scroll on by, as I know not everyone cares about that kind of thing. It's going to sound somewhat harsh so if you are loving everything keep on loving everything...production is just my personal interest in dramas so yeah...
I feel like they might be leaning just a little too hard into the lens flare, shot through glass pane/window/reflective surface, with an extra added vignette style image focus. It really works in some scenes, but because it's used a lot its getting....repetitive. It's giving...astigmatism at times where nothing is in full sharp focus because light is breaking up the depth of field. Some of the camera angles are definitely because they shot on a practical set rather than a studio where they can move walls to get the camera angle just right. So there really isn't much one can do about those. Some are shot purposefully to make the viewer feel claustrophobic in the moment. There are some scenes that need to be opened up a bit more within the frame(personal opinion) as it's not letting the subjects be grounded within the shot. I think a change in camera lens could have improved some shots....mainly the news reports when they are switching back and forth to different camera techniques.
Color grading looks good...it's giving the right mood. I just wish there was a more distinct difference in visual tone from past and present events. It's sort of there, but present day scenes have almost a dream like quality to them that there isn't enough of a deference between the two timelines. EDIT: Didn't see episode 4 yet at the time of writing this comment there is more of a difference in style in past vs present. Not 100% sure I'm fully vibing with the DP just yet...I'll have to see where they go with it when it comes to her sleepwalking, and once the story actually picks up. We are still very much in the introduction stage. Looking forward to see what's in store.
YESSSSSSSS Its precisely this attention to detail that made this drama such a visually stunning treat.They are…
First, thank you so much for the names both in English and Chinese for the different departments and names. Extremely helpful.🥰
Second, There has got to be, at minimum, an hour's worth of NGs/outtakes from clothing not doing what the director/actor want it to do. Also a lot of PAs just off screen or diving out of shots after holding something in place. 🤣😊
Not every actor/actress can work well with period dramas because of how technical some of the wardrobe, hair, and make-up styling gets. Being able to move in clothes and make it natural and not stiff is why some productions can pull you out of the story. Same with Western period pieces. The amount of times I've been watching an actress try and go up and down stairs in period clothing and not know how to properly walk is astounding. Also, for the love of all that is holy, can someone on set please learn how to properly tie a cravat? I know that might seem trivial to some, but details matter when world building. Being able to do the stunts/choreography needed for these roles in full costume while hooked up to wires while maintaining a fluidity....skills. A lot of Chinese actors and actresses have perfected this through hard work and dedication to learning from the stunt teams. It's a lot of blood, sweat, and tears. Also, core strength....so much core strength.
It's shows like this and Blossom that make me mad at myself for not being able to read Chinese characters. I wish I could look up the gaffer's(lighting director) and the DP's(Director of Photographer aka cinematographer) CV to see what other work they have done. The consistent attention to detail when it comes to practically lighting the more fantastical scenes so that the VFX can better blend into the shot is amazing. If you haven't noticed, they use color specific lighting in the shots to mirror that of what will be done in post production so that the lighting on the actors faces matches and blends. Use of practical explosions, and strobes to again enhance the digital effects...seriously chef's kiss.
They are lighting for a fantasy show so the sometimes over lit night shots are easily forgiven, as we constantly see the characters light a room with "magic". They consistently use real sunlight and establishing shots that were filmed outdoors at golden hour....unless they have a "Volume"(the studio with a digital background set that they used for shows like The Mandalorian and The Batman) The lighting gives a warmth and reality to a lot of scenes.
The DP never overdoes it with artistic shots...they are within every episode but used sparingly as to not overwhelm the story with unique shots that would then become repetitive or distracting. And for a show that is 40 episodes long, those artistic choices take time and money, and they used that time and money very well. Again if they don't have something like "The Volume" shooting at golden hour can sometimes take multiple days just for a 3-10 minutes scene.
I really wish I was able to read the more detailed crew list so that I could praise them. But because I can't I just want to give a big round of applause to the production crew that obviously put a lot of thought and care into this work. From the PAs to the post production colorists, seriously great work.
Also shout out to the wardrobe department. The attention to detail on the costumes and how they are multi-layered so they look different depending on lighting/movement is soooooo amazing. One of Deng Wei(Su Yi Shui)'s main outfits is a multi-layered green outfit. It can look emerald green in one shot and almost completely black in others. I love it so much, Every layer is a different color and when stacked together paired with movement....they cooked. They cooked, ate, and left no crumbs.
I can't wait to see her grow even more as an actress. She's only 16, meaning most her work I've seen she was 14 or 15 years old. She already has an amazing understanding and grasp of more emotional scenes. She, along with Huangyang Tian Tian, are some of the younger talent coming up that I hope continue to work in the industry and are well taken care of and protected from the more harmful aspects of being in the industry and a public figure. Watching her in period dramas has helped be place the characters the actresses who are playing much younger than they are in perspective as she was the actual age of a lot of the female lead characters.
Anyone know if I have to watch hidden love in order to understand this drama
no you don't have to. they are actually parallel stories. So if you havent watched Hidden Love I would recommend watching it after & then you will have the extra layer of what's going on with Sang Yan in the background. each story only focuses on the main leads. at least in the web novels.
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Always in the same room when possible. He's all "show me affection....shadow shadow stalk...oh don't look over there...look at me...aren't I adorable...I'll even let you pet me if you ask nicely." 🐈⬛️🐈⬛️
If I remember correctly Sang Yan's name is related to a sort of tree. Mulberry maybe....I can't remember exactly. someone help me out
What should have happened early on to show why she keeps getting into messed up situations & stays closed off, is how her family treated her when she looked to them for help. It was only vaguely hinted at in like a 3 second scene. So a lot of ppl who haven't read the story are seeing her as really weak & a bad journalist who can't even speak up for herself. They sort of show that she tries to stand up for herself, but it's turning a lot of viewers toward hating on her & it's upsetting. I need them to show her recurring trauma/PTSD in a better way. (there are other ways to show what they have & other ways to start showing her sleep walking earlier in the episodes. She should look a bit more tired than she currently does in the show to show how she is different from the past & how she evolves once Sang Yan is back in her life.)
He also thinks that it makes him less noticeable...it doesn't.
As an aside, in college he let the rumors of him and his roommate persist because he didn't like being approached by women.
The "laziness" you see of him, is him just being what he is, a black cat that wants affection. So he places himself in front of the person he wants affection from as much as possible, and waits, every once in a while reaching out to tap her to remind her that he is there.
He's playing on his phone so that he can be in the same room as her. He also actually does have a day job that they haven't shown yet. He likes numbers so much he works at a firm as a manger for fun. He has money money, not only from family, but because he knows how to invest.
Yi Fan, FL, downplays her beauty on purpose since she was in high school. No one wants to take her seriously because she is pretty. They assume that she uses her looks like others do...like the woman at her new job who she moves in with.
The reason she doesn't really speak up for herself has been hinted at but not fully shown. The first time she is assaulted it is by a relative. Her mother disregards her and brushes it off. Her own mother had kicked her out of her house because the new step sister doesn't like that the focus isn't on HER. We see her in episode 4 for the first time.
Because of the shame she feels about what happened in high school she kind of becomes an easy target for others. She has no one to back her and they know it. She is kind and quiet. Every time she does speak up for herself it is covered up by someone. Like at her old job at the news paper. The boss harassed her and nothing happened even though he had done it to others. She's good at standing up for others, but not herself. She gets better at it later on.
They haven't even hinted at the fact she suffers from sleep walking regularly because she was constantly in fight or flight mode as a teenager and she could barely sleep. She is dealing with a lot of unaddressed PTSD. The character is behaving like someone who has not dealt with their trauma...because she hasn't....dealt with it.
For the first 4 episodes there were certain shots that were great, but there were an almost equal amount that I questioned the decision behind framing/lighting it in that way.
The acting is there. The styling is there....the characters are being portrayed properly. So very pleased overall.
I do have some production technical gripes but nothing too too bad. So if that isn't your thing feel free to just scroll on by, as I know not everyone cares about that kind of thing. It's going to sound somewhat harsh so if you are loving everything keep on loving everything...production is just my personal interest in dramas so yeah...
I feel like they might be leaning just a little too hard into the lens flare, shot through glass pane/window/reflective surface, with an extra added vignette style image focus. It really works in some scenes, but because it's used a lot its getting....repetitive. It's giving...astigmatism at times where nothing is in full sharp focus because light is breaking up the depth of field. Some of the camera angles are definitely because they shot on a practical set rather than a studio where they can move walls to get the camera angle just right. So there really isn't much one can do about those. Some are shot purposefully to make the viewer feel claustrophobic in the moment. There are some scenes that need to be opened up a bit more within the frame(personal opinion) as it's not letting the subjects be grounded within the shot. I think a change in camera lens could have improved some shots....mainly the news reports when they are switching back and forth to different camera techniques.
Color grading looks good...it's giving the right mood. I just wish there was a more distinct difference in visual tone from past and present events. It's sort of there, but present day scenes have almost a dream like quality to them that there isn't enough of a deference between the two timelines. EDIT: Didn't see episode 4 yet at the time of writing this comment there is more of a difference in style in past vs present.
Not 100% sure I'm fully vibing with the DP just yet...I'll have to see where they go with it when it comes to her sleepwalking, and once the story actually picks up. We are still very much in the introduction stage. Looking forward to see what's in store.
Second, There has got to be, at minimum, an hour's worth of NGs/outtakes from clothing not doing what the director/actor want it to do. Also a lot of PAs just off screen or diving out of shots after holding something in place. 🤣😊
Not every actor/actress can work well with period dramas because of how technical some of the wardrobe, hair, and make-up styling gets. Being able to move in clothes and make it natural and not stiff is why some productions can pull you out of the story. Same with Western period pieces.
The amount of times I've been watching an actress try and go up and down stairs in period clothing and not know how to properly walk is astounding. Also, for the love of all that is holy, can someone on set please learn how to properly tie a cravat?
I know that might seem trivial to some, but details matter when world building. Being able to do the stunts/choreography needed for these roles in full costume while hooked up to wires while maintaining a fluidity....skills.
A lot of Chinese actors and actresses have perfected this through hard work and dedication to learning from the stunt teams. It's a lot of blood, sweat, and tears. Also, core strength....so much core strength.
They are lighting for a fantasy show so the sometimes over lit night shots are easily forgiven, as we constantly see the characters light a room with "magic". They consistently use real sunlight and establishing shots that were filmed outdoors at golden hour....unless they have a "Volume"(the studio with a digital background set that they used for shows like The Mandalorian and The Batman) The lighting gives a warmth and reality to a lot of scenes.
The DP never overdoes it with artistic shots...they are within every episode but used sparingly as to not overwhelm the story with unique shots that would then become repetitive or distracting. And for a show that is 40 episodes long, those artistic choices take time and money, and they used that time and money very well. Again if they don't have something like "The Volume" shooting at golden hour can sometimes take multiple days just for a 3-10 minutes scene.
I really wish I was able to read the more detailed crew list so that I could praise them. But because I can't I just want to give a big round of applause to the production crew that obviously put a lot of thought and care into this work. From the PAs to the post production colorists, seriously great work.
Also shout out to the wardrobe department. The attention to detail on the costumes and how they are multi-layered so they look different depending on lighting/movement is soooooo amazing. One of Deng Wei(Su Yi Shui)'s main outfits is a multi-layered green outfit. It can look emerald green in one shot and almost completely black in others. I love it so much, Every layer is a different color and when stacked together paired with movement....they cooked. They cooked, ate, and left no crumbs.
Watching her in period dramas has helped be place the characters the actresses who are playing much younger than they are in perspective as she was the actual age of a lot of the female lead characters.