I thought of History Trapped as soon as I saw 2 guys lost in the woods because they had just escaped kidnappers . Moreover, the characters in both shows started off as enemies. And in both shows the 2 guys bonded while lost in the woods. Such similarities are so striking that I am wondering which came first -- the novel "KinnPorsche" or the screenplay for History Trapped?
I finally saw ep 5, which I think of as "The Aftermath." So, ok, I do not want to see people go to prison when they have sex with someone who's under the influence of drugs or booze. But even if there are no legal consequences to exploiting somebody's inebriated state for sex, there must be moral consequences.
At first, I thought the show was doing a good job with this because it depicted Kinn as racked with guilt and squirming in his own skin (because, hey, the memory of what he'd done SHOULD make a man squirm). Alas, the show only depicted Kinn squirming for a couple of days, and then -- poof! -- he and Porsche are tossed into a situation so severe that it very tidily relegates Kinn's sexual behavior to the sidelines. Sorry, but I want to see that guy squirm a bit longer.
So, do we ever get to know why, exactly, those 2 kids were running around the restaurant without adult supervision? Or how, exactly, the kids found the chef's living quarters ups?
They've just... Completely lost focus.Like at this point what is the storyline? Stuff seems to simply happen for…
The show is in desperate need of film editor because it lacks cohesion and, as you say, "lost its focus." I agree with you on all points. However, I'm confused by your last sentence -- what do you mean by "robbed us of emotional getting together"?
Do you mean that kiss at the end of episode 5? I am watching it on my phone and cannot even tell if the kiss actually happened, or if it's his fantasy.
Am I the only one who thinks Big is cute? I realize he does not have the male model handsomeness of the other guys in the cast (Apo actually was a model). And he probably couldn't strike a pose like Zoolander's "Blue Steel." But, dang, I am just drawn to his face nonetheless. He has such a unique, interesting look.
Wow. There's a lot of generalizations and assumptions here. Did you conduct a consensus on the percentage of number…
Tim, I commend you on your restraint in not schooling these girls who've accused you of homophobia when, in fact, you've been an out-and-proud gay man for years, if not decades.
How much nonsense in a long comment you have there, To say you are sure 75% are gays, and "gays" are mostly in…
Yo, Tim, she just said you were "incredibly young." Now, she had said it for an utterly inane reason. Nevertheless, for people in their 50's like us, I'd be damn, smacking happy to called incredibly young. You need to thank her for the compliment.
Which guy from Cherry Blossoms is an idol? The little one playing Haeboom, or the tall one playing Tae Sung?
You had sent me a music video of Mr. Pillow Lips from "Semantic Error," but not this kid from "Cherry Blossoms."
I gotta say, when I heard that one of the boys in "Cherry Blossoms" was an idol, I figured it was more likely the tall one. Cuz the short one is not merely short, he is teensy-tiny! But hey, I guess Asian teenaged girls like their idols cute and pocket sized (eg, Mr. Pillow lips is also very short).
Come to think of it, the same can be said for American teeny-boppers who went gonzo over the likes of Davey Jones. He was a midget too. I wonder if it's about teeny-boppers liking teensy-tiny idols because it makes the idols less sexually threatening. In short, the teeny-boppers' sexual fantasies about these idols would feel somehow safe.
Worst BL? Have you not seen the 50 or so Thai BL's that they manufacture off a factory assembly line? And where…
Shoot, I was hoping you'd watch WYEL, cuz I'm such a psycho that after writing that comment I pulled it up again and I'm re-watching right now. These 2 boys look at each other in the very first 10 minutes and you know they got it bad for each other. And when the bodyguard washes the other boy's hair in the shower in ep 2..... well dang. They's in love. But it takes 5 more eps to say it to each other. But short 12 min eps. As I said, it's only 90 min in total (ie, the avg length of a feature film).
First ep of 'Ocean like me' made me want to re-watch this like the 25th time. XDThe sexual tension between the…
lol, I just re-watched WYEL for the exact same reason. I saw him in Ocean Like Me and simply had to re-watch him in this again. I want a sequel, but it's been 2-3 years since WYEL finished, so I doubt we'll be getting one. I wonder why when it was such a hit. Perhaps the leads did not get along? There's gotta be a reason, cuz the show was a smash hit and started the trend for Korea making more BL's. And the same director did To My Star and Bleuming, so she's certainly still striking it hot in the industry.
Worst BL? Have you not seen the 50 or so Thai BL's that they manufacture off a factory assembly line? And where…
Yep, he's hot even with the bad make-up and glaringly over-lit sets that make him look so pale. I also loved his shirtless scene, cuz he's got this beautiful body that is tone and muscular, but does not have a rock hard, six-pack, "I live at the gym" body.
I always suspect men with such bodies of vanity and know they are just as bad as girls when it comes to counting calories and stepping on a scale every ten minutes. I know from experience cuz one of my bros did body building and was like that. Girls trailed him cuz he was cute and had a six-pack; but I lived with him, so I knew how truly insufferable his body maintenance was. I prefer guys with bodies like Ha Gi Chan's in this show.
Ok, go watch WYEL!!! And since I know you have Viki, be advised: watch the series, not the movie version, cuz the movie omits the boys' internal monologues, which are the best part of the show.
Also, Viki fucked up the editing at the end of episode 7. After the ending credits roll, there's 30-40 second scene of the bodyguard working at a restaurant which actually belongs at the end of episode 8. The clip comes after ep 7's credits roll, so just skip it and directly to ep 8. Can't believe Viki never fixed this mistake. Nevertheless, Viki has the best subtitles for WYEL, so watch it there.
Golly, can you tell I've watched WYEL a half a dozen times?
Worst BL? Have you not seen the 50 or so Thai BL's that they manufacture off a factory assembly line? And where…
I like that both characters are openly gay at the get -go, so there's no, "I'm straight, but just gay for you." Sure, sometimes we'll get one openly gay guy in a BL, but we rarely get both.
Also, I must confess, I would watch ANYTHING that has Han Gi Chan in it. He starred in one of my Top 3 BL's, "Where Your Eyes Linger" and has not been seen since.
This is the first time I've seen him again, and I'm here for him. I'd re-watch a soda-pop ad over and over if he were in it (I also love his voice). It sucks that they gave the poor guy a subpar project after such an amazing and iconic BL like WYEL, but there you go. So I'm watching.
But Tim, I'm serious, you need to re-watch WYEL. You told me it's been a long time since you've seen it. The actors Ha Gi Chan and Jang Eui Soo both had heat, even w/o touching (btw, poor Jang Eui Soo's follow up BL was also subpar).
The kissing scene in WYEL was chaste, but that's because it was Korea's very 1st BL (made 2-3 years ago). It was so popular that it set the trend for Korea's BL's afterward.
At any rate, if you're wondering why I'm so into Han Gi Chan, go re-watch WYEL. It's only 90 minutes in total episodes, but man does it pack a punch in that short time. The chemistry is on fire.
Everyone is commenting on the bad makeup. Yes, it’s bad. But I think the problem is more with the cinematography,…
Yea, Holland cannot act. He's basically just playing himself. When I heard how he came out of the closet I was so impressed (cuz that's still hard for an idol to do in Korea), I looked at some interviews with him. This is just his personality. He makes all those same expressions and has the same sassy sort of vibe. So this show just put the camera on him and let him be himself. I think they really just wanted his name on the billing, regardless of his acting, cuz BL fans love him for his other projects and how he came out. When I say "other projects," I mean non-acting projects, cuz this is his first acting gig. Clearly, lol.
The chemistry started to show when they finally let the chef smile and giggle at his new partner in ep 3. That…
Agreed, the kids in the bedroom was a problem. It forced the viewer to make up their own scenarios for how they got there. Like, what, were the parents in the restaurant downstairs and when they saw no staff their kids wandered to the living quarters upstairs? If so, tell the viewer that this is what happened for goodness sakes. So yea, there are problems.
But I just readjusted my expectations to the barometer of "cute and harmless" and let it go. The show I am really hating on currently is PlusMinus. They had a budget, so there's no excuse. Bad script, bad pacing, and bad casting with that ugly laundramat guy hooked up w/the hot bartender.
Everyone is commenting on the bad makeup. Yes, it’s bad. But I think the problem is more with the cinematography,…
Meh, it's cute. And really, there's no other BL out there this season except KP and Mr. Unlucky. I was hoping PlusMinus would be good, but it sucks. I cannot even call it "cute." It's just bad. And that one clearly had a budget, so there's no excuse either. Just a lazy script and poor casting (if you've seen it, then you know laundramat guy is ugly). Oh, and 3 trip and fall kisses per episode.
Episode 3 and 4 are proving that this is one of those shows that gets better as it goes along. There was a really darling scene in ep 3 where Ba Da smiled at Tommy and began to laugh, and Tommy was startled and kept asking, “What?” Ba Da had always been so shy (and, frankly, a bit stiff), that it was a nice break for his character. In general, I am enjoying the classic scenario of "opposites attract" with reserved Bada and sassy, outgoing Tommy. And ep 4 really got things rolling by introducing a rival for Mr. Sassy! There’s also a new twist that’s thickened the plot.
Moreover, may I say that I freaking LOVE that the characters are gay from the get-go. There’s none of that bullshit we see in most Thai BL’s with “I’m really straight, but just gay for you.” I think this trope is utterly cowardly. So I am impressed when a BL jettisons that and has the guts to present openly gay characters – not to mention an openly gay actor!
But it's a testament to the actors and the director that those 4 brief episodes had me dying to know what's coming next.
At first, I thought the show was doing a good job with this because it depicted Kinn as racked with guilt and squirming in his own skin (because, hey, the memory of what he'd done SHOULD make a man squirm). Alas, the show only depicted Kinn squirming for a couple of days, and then -- poof! -- he and Porsche are tossed into a situation so severe that it very tidily relegates Kinn's sexual behavior to the sidelines. Sorry, but I want to see that guy squirm a bit longer.
Do you mean that kiss at the end of episode 5? I am watching it on my phone and cannot even tell if the kiss actually happened, or if it's his fantasy.
I gotta say, when I heard that one of the boys in "Cherry Blossoms" was an idol, I figured it was more likely the tall one. Cuz the short one is not merely short, he is teensy-tiny! But hey, I guess Asian teenaged girls like their idols cute and pocket sized (eg, Mr. Pillow lips is also very short).
Come to think of it, the same can be said for American teeny-boppers who went gonzo over the likes of Davey Jones. He was a midget too. I wonder if it's about teeny-boppers liking teensy-tiny idols because it makes the idols less sexually threatening. In short, the teeny-boppers' sexual fantasies about these idols would feel somehow safe.
I always suspect men with such bodies of vanity and know they are just as bad as girls when it comes to counting calories and stepping on a scale every ten minutes. I know from experience cuz one of my bros did body building and was like that. Girls trailed him cuz he was cute and had a six-pack; but I lived with him, so I knew how truly insufferable his body maintenance was. I prefer guys with bodies like Ha Gi Chan's in this show.
Ok, go watch WYEL!!! And since I know you have Viki, be advised: watch the series, not the movie version, cuz the movie omits the boys' internal monologues, which are the best part of the show.
Also, Viki fucked up the editing at the end of episode 7. After the ending credits roll, there's 30-40 second scene of the bodyguard working at a restaurant which actually belongs at the end of episode 8. The clip comes after ep 7's credits roll, so just skip it and directly to ep 8. Can't believe Viki never fixed this mistake. Nevertheless, Viki has the best subtitles for WYEL, so watch it there.
Golly, can you tell I've watched WYEL a half a dozen times?
Also, I must confess, I would watch ANYTHING that has Han Gi Chan in it. He starred in one of my Top 3 BL's, "Where Your Eyes Linger" and has not been seen since.
This is the first time I've seen him again, and I'm here for him. I'd re-watch a soda-pop ad over and over if he were in it (I also love his voice). It sucks that they gave the poor guy a subpar project after such an amazing and iconic BL like WYEL, but there you go. So I'm watching.
But Tim, I'm serious, you need to re-watch WYEL. You told me it's been a long time since you've seen it. The actors Ha Gi Chan and Jang Eui Soo both had heat, even w/o touching (btw, poor Jang Eui Soo's follow up BL was also subpar).
The kissing scene in WYEL was chaste, but that's because it was Korea's very 1st BL (made 2-3 years ago). It was so popular that it set the trend for Korea's BL's afterward.
At any rate, if you're wondering why I'm so into Han Gi Chan, go re-watch WYEL. It's only 90 minutes in total episodes, but man does it pack a punch in that short time. The chemistry is on fire.
But I just readjusted my expectations to the barometer of "cute and harmless" and let it go. The show I am really hating on currently is PlusMinus. They had a budget, so there's no excuse. Bad script, bad pacing, and bad casting with that ugly laundramat guy hooked up w/the hot bartender.
Moreover, may I say that I freaking LOVE that the characters are gay from the get-go. There’s none of that bullshit we see in most Thai BL’s with “I’m really straight, but just gay for you.” I think this trope is utterly cowardly. So I am impressed when a BL jettisons that and has the guts to present openly gay characters – not to mention an openly gay actor!