THIS GOES BEYOND realism in how bad things believably go, which is not my cup of tea just like when things go too easily.
But this to be expected for seinen yaoi manga with hyperbole being its most popular device to make a point more assertively. And this series has catched and executed this accordingly.
And it is always commendable when such heavy themes are explored.
Though it goes beyond realism in how bad things believably go, which is not my cup of tea just like when things go too easily.
But this to be expected for seinen yaoi manga with hyperbole being its most popular device to make a point more assertively. And this series has catched and executed this accordingly.
And it is always commendable when such heavy themes are explored, as you have pointed this.
Crass and rough in the delivery, a proper festival art house gay film, nothing to do with the fantastical BL genre.
I do not usually watch those becuase they are too depressing, but here not everything is lost.
The realism here is top notch, including the infamous Korean mass suicidal practices in terms of tobacco and alcohol self-destruction. Hard to watch but this is how people actually live in SK.
The second chance magic the main las has sometimes is used for the worse. For example, in the episode 4 he initially was acting innocently about the doctor's situation because he was innocwnt , indeed, but after the retry magic the doctor now thinks that the main lad is fully conplicit with the crimes of his family.
A selfie does not unblock a phone.
A photo of some names written on paper would not cause a scandal at all. There is no proof where the note was, who has written it.
Bad guys are randomly using guns when it does not make sense and all of the sudden refuse so when it does, all too convenient for lazy scriptwriters.
WHAT? The policeman has kept a flash card just laying around openly in his car, not in a safe place?
Of course, no amounts of screaming by any alien or a lover actually helps a dying person to survive in any way.
Why would the main villain just let the doctor live after a failed assassination attempt?
This is an interesting series. Great complicated characters inpeccably played.The Torah lad plays a DISGUSTING…
You can not get a fingerprint from a rough stone.
The second chance magic the main las has sometimes is used for the worse. For example, in the episode 4 he initially was acting innocently about the doctor's situation because he was innocwnt , indeed, but after the retry magic the doctor now thinks that the main lad is fully conplicit with the crimes of his family.
A selfie does not unblock a phone.
A photo of some names written on paper would not cause a scandal at all. There is no proof where the note was, who has written it.
Bad guys are randomly using guns when it does not make sense and all of the sudden refuse so when it does, all too convenient for lazy scriptwriters.
WHAT? The policeman has kept a flash card just laying around openly in his car, not in a safe place?
Of course, no amounts of screaming by any alien or a lover actually helps a dying person to survive in any way.
Why would the main villain just let the doctor live after a failed assassination attempt?
The same reason why Aou and Boom had to split.It is more profitable for GMMTV to keep Joong and Aou as band members…
From what I gather GMMTV did not say they will never film BLs at all, but only said there will be no fixed pairings. This means that the lads will be sent to play in BLs here and there occasionally with random actors, let's see.
Besides, Jasper still does have baby Santa which is in pair with Perth, and this CP is big enough to continue the hassle of scheduling conflicts.
This is an interesting series. Great complicated characters inpeccably played.
The Torah lad plays a DISGUSTING character. “Hit and run” is one the worst things you could do. And he a tobacco addict, which is repulsive. He is also littering.
Narratively the series is annoying because it does not do any proper exposition about who is who, so viewers can not even understand what is happening sometimes.
Also, scenes from different events are filmed alike so instead of following the story viewers are made to waste time distracted by this.
I know the direction is intentionally meant to be the fesival “art house” style, but it does not serve the purpose well.
The same reason why Aou and Boom had to split.It is more profitable for GMMTV to keep Joong and Aou as band members…
Probably the lads' opinions match GMM's on this because the company's whole point is to make money, so the lads understand that they have markets and revenue stream analysts to substantiate the move.
Jasper might be not some incredible success but they are reliably doing concerts, fan events, merchandise sales, and the “idol” thing is exactly what the lads were wanting to do in the first place. So it is a win-win decision for all sides, except for fans of those CPs.
The only way it would make sense to continue the CPs if the success level would be close to WilliamEst.
Not only the maniac is s murderer, but so is the euthaniser, and the nurse is comiplicit.
1. No practical chance that police would bother about nonviolent deaths of teminally ill patients that can die at any moment even if the theoretical life span limit indicates it would be up to a few months longer. They would not even visit the place, the morgue transport workers would take the body and their is it. 2. Why would the killer doctor say that his patients can live for longer if he were to euthanise them anyway? 3. Why would the killer-doctor leave evidence like syringes on the scene? 4. Unopened potassium chloride concentrate is not stored in a fridge 5. No need to empty the bottles with the potassium chloride before getting rid of them. 6. No need to put the bottles in the fridge where a guest can find it 7. Autopsy results are not accessible to any personnel of a clinic except for pathologist and, then, investigators, unlike how it is shown in the series. The fact that the death was ruled to be unnatural is also concealed. 8. Search and seizure in the homes of a suspect are approved before the suspect can act. 9. Why does the nurse keep the bottles in her private box in the hospital? It makes no sense. 10. potassium chloride can be procured from lots of sources, it is not a regulated substance, so there is no need to come up with the whole scheme about stealing it from the clinic. 11. The director of the clinic was written to be insane because instead of making an official statement to police he arranged a secret private meeting with the killer. 12. The killer also stupid because there is nothing he can do to protect himself at this point because all phone calls are traceable and he was communicating with the director right before the meeting, and yet he is trying something. 13. THE MOMENT the story goes to the non consensual murder of a healthy person the whole concept of the series sabotages itself by removing any and all moral ambiguity to the character and his whole cultist gang of murderers. 14. So the police, including the main chap, is responsible for this avoidable murder. 15. The police has forgot about collecting evidence in the car where the “suicide” has happened. There has to be a syinge with the director's DNA and fingerprints on it, and his only. 16. COME ON, a policemen allowed a tiny nurse to go a home of a violent serial maniac murderer to search for evidence? 17. You can not really overdose on cannabis unless you would eat like s kilogram of edibles (not through smoking it), though even then it is safe unless you have specific lung conditions. 18. The lady pathologist is also written to be stupid. How does she except that the wounded euthaniser would be able formulate and adjust his aiming strategy in a split second? 19. And how does she even have anything to do with this at all, considering that she is a pathologist and neither of them are dead? She would not even have the right to access their medical files to learn anything about this.
A GREAT example of lazy script writing because characters are made to behave incredibly stupid to move the story…
Not only the maniac is s murderer, but so is the euthaniser, and the nurse is comiplicit.
1. No practical chance that police would bother about nonviolent deaths of teminally ill patients that can die at any moment even if the theoretical life span limit indicates it would be up to a few months longer. They would not even visit the place, the morgue transport workers would take the body and their is it. 2. Why would the killer doctor say that his patients can live for longer if he were to euthanise them anyway? 3. Why would the killer-doctor leave evidence like syringes on the scene? 4. Unopened potassium chloride concentrate is not stored in a fridge 5. No need to empty the bottles with the potassium chloride before getting rid of them. 6. No need to put the bottles in the fridge where a guest can find it 7. Autopsy results are not accessible to any personnel of a clinic except for pathologist and, then, investigators, unlike how it is shown in the series. The fact that the death was ruled to be unnatural is also concealed. 8. Search and seizure in the homes of a suspect are approved before the suspect can act. 9. Why does the nurse keep the bottles in her private box in the hospital? It makes no sense. 10. potassium chloride can be procured from lots of sources, it is not a regulated substance, so there is no need to come up with the whole scheme about stealing it from the clinic. 11. The director of the clinic was written to be insane because instead of making an official statement to police he arranged a secret private meeting with the killer. 12. The killer also stupid because there is nothing he can do to protect himself at this point because all phone calls are traceable and he was communicating with the director right before the meeting, and yet he is trying something. 13. THE MOMENT the story goes to the non consensual murder of a healthy person the whole concept of the series sabotages itself by removing any and all moral ambiguity to the character and his whole cultist gang of murderers. 14. So the police, including the main chap, is responsible for this avoidable murder. 15. The police has forgot about collecting evidence in the car where the “suicide” has happened. There has to be a syinge with the director's DNA and fingerprints on it, and his only. 16. COME ON, a policemen allowed a tiny nurse to go a home of a violent serial maniac murderer to search for evidence? 17. You can not really overdose on cannabis unless you would eat like s kilogram of edibles (not through smoking it), though even then it is safe unless you have specific lung conditions. 18. The lady pathologist is also written to be stupid. How does she except that the wounded euthaniser would be able formulate and adjust his aiming strategy in a split second? 19. And how does she even have anything to do with this at all, considering that she is a pathologist and neither of them are dead? She would not even have the right to access their medical files to learn anything about this.
A GREAT example of lazy script writing because characters are made to behave incredibly stupid to move the story forward.
If you are incapable of completely turning your brain off, you are going to be angry while watching the series.
The only supposedly good thing that could come out of tbis series is a push to allow medically justified euthanasia, but even this did not work because the authors conflated the issue with murderers and serial maniac killers.
Thanks, but do you have this list with BL couples names right by the titles?
Thanks.
I checked AouBoom a week ago and it looks like the Billionaire will be still be filmed, so maybe they did not break up?
EDIT: it looks like it was announced today. I understand the Aou Boom case because Aou is busy with his band, so it is a scheduling issue, besides everything else.
I guess is the same reason with Joong and Dunk split.
The series is a remake of a Korean one, not a BL at that. Not sure what you're trying to imply with your thoughts…
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Just read the featured reviews with titles like “Romance not bromance” etc.
People are salivating a story that is executed as if it suggests more than it is, and this exact thing is a stigma of many censored productions (even though here the original was not censored, at least other than the author self).
My thoughts are all in that place, and I am not sure how much simpler it can be put.
The writing is uneven: SOME things are plausible and others are rolling-eyes level random, like Est’s character giving a sandwich that was meant to go to trash to William’s character meaning that he would helps to rebuild the band. William does not even know how old and soiled the sandwich is so it is double ridiculous.
The timeline makes no sense because William's character acting as if Est' is already his love even though just a couple of days passed since they met.
It took the couple how many interactions not being able to establish a phone contact to each other? All for the stupid and forced “romantic” idea of remembering a phone number, even though you never need to dial it.
So maybe I was wrong and this show’s events are meant to happen not in the 2000s, but in the 1980s, rather.
WAIT, I am wrong again. The studio is keeping discarded lyrics and notation in boxes as paper, so it could not be the 1980s because computers were already used to store and archive that on tapes. So maybe the time of the events is 1950s.
And now we came to the worst sin of any LAZY scriptwriting: making up drama out of misunderstandings that requires writing a character to be stupid. Like in the case of rapper Dylan who was born able to add 2 to 2 and see that William’s character was not a “traitor”.
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ANOTHER story about a straight guy who was turned gay by a guy, which absurd and can not happen at all.
Unless the person is autistic he does not require a methodology to understand how friendship differs from love in terms of feelings. It is impossible to mix up.
Idols and actors, including those who were filmed in this, do not engage with love romances. Even if they catch a feeling they tuck it away and continue to be professional almost always. They do not want to risk their careers.
Of course, idols can not go to “secret” underground rap battles or have time or the ability to “secretly” record songs or film videos, unless both of those things are absolutely amateurish and unusable for series promotions.
The idea to fake-compete with your friend for his love to supposedly facilitate it is not quite believable because among guys it is a taboo that can destroy friendship and trust forever even if you will claim last second that you do not have feelings for the friend’s object of love.
But this to be expected for seinen yaoi manga with hyperbole being its most popular device to make a point more assertively. And this series has catched and executed this accordingly.
And it is always commendable when such heavy themes are explored.
Though it goes beyond realism in how bad things believably go, which is not my cup of tea just like when things go too easily.
But this to be expected for seinen yaoi manga with hyperbole being its most popular device to make a point more assertively. And this series has catched and executed this accordingly.
And it is always commendable when such heavy themes are explored, as you have pointed this.
Crass and rough in the delivery, a proper festival art house gay film, nothing to do with the fantastical BL genre.
I do not usually watch those becuase they are too depressing, but here not everything is lost.
The realism here is top notch, including the infamous Korean mass suicidal practices in terms of tobacco and alcohol self-destruction. Hard to watch but this is how people actually live in SK.
The second chance magic the main las has sometimes is used for the worse. For example, in the episode 4 he initially was acting innocently about the doctor's situation because he was innocwnt , indeed, but after the retry magic the doctor now thinks that the main lad is fully conplicit with the crimes of his family.
A selfie does not unblock a phone.
A photo of some names written on paper would not cause a scandal at all. There is no proof where the note was, who has written it.
Bad guys are randomly using guns when it does not make sense and all of the sudden refuse so when it does, all too convenient for lazy scriptwriters.
WHAT? The policeman has kept a flash card just laying around openly in his car, not in a safe place?
Of course, no amounts of screaming by any alien or a lover actually helps a dying person to survive in any way.
Why would the main villain just let the doctor live after a failed assassination attempt?
The second chance magic the main las has sometimes is used for the worse. For example, in the episode 4 he initially was acting innocently about the doctor's situation because he was innocwnt , indeed, but after the retry magic the doctor now thinks that the main lad is fully conplicit with the crimes of his family.
A selfie does not unblock a phone.
A photo of some names written on paper would not cause a scandal at all. There is no proof where the note was, who has written it.
Bad guys are randomly using guns when it does not make sense and all of the sudden refuse so when it does, all too convenient for lazy scriptwriters.
WHAT? The policeman has kept a flash card just laying around openly in his car, not in a safe place?
Of course, no amounts of screaming by any alien or a lover actually helps a dying person to survive in any way.
Why would the main villain just let the doctor live after a failed assassination attempt?
Besides, Jasper still does have baby Santa which is in pair with Perth, and this CP is big enough to continue the hassle of scheduling conflicts.
The Torah lad plays a DISGUSTING character. “Hit and run” is one the worst things you could do. And he a tobacco addict, which is repulsive. He is also littering.
Narratively the series is annoying because it does not do any proper exposition about who is who, so viewers can not even understand what is happening sometimes.
Also, scenes from different events are filmed alike so instead of following the story viewers are made to waste time distracted by this.
I know the direction is intentionally meant to be the fesival “art house” style, but it does not serve the purpose well.
Jasper might be not some incredible success but they are reliably doing concerts, fan events, merchandise sales, and the “idol” thing is exactly what the lads were wanting to do in the first place. So it is a win-win decision for all sides, except for fans of those CPs.
The only way it would make sense to continue the CPs if the success level would be close to WilliamEst.
1. No practical chance that police would bother about nonviolent deaths of teminally ill patients that can die at any moment even if the theoretical life span limit indicates it would be up to a few months longer. They would not even visit the place, the morgue transport workers would take the body and their is it.
2. Why would the killer doctor say that his patients can live for longer if he were to euthanise them anyway?
3. Why would the killer-doctor leave evidence like syringes on the scene?
4. Unopened potassium chloride concentrate is not stored in a fridge
5. No need to empty the bottles with the potassium chloride before getting rid of them.
6. No need to put the bottles in the fridge where a guest can find it
7. Autopsy results are not accessible to any personnel of a clinic except for pathologist and, then, investigators, unlike how it is shown in the series. The fact that the death was ruled to be unnatural is also concealed.
8. Search and seizure in the homes of a suspect are approved before the suspect can act.
9. Why does the nurse keep the bottles in her private box in the hospital? It makes no sense.
10. potassium chloride can be procured from lots of sources, it is not a regulated substance, so there is no need to come up with the whole scheme about stealing it from the clinic.
11. The director of the clinic was written to be insane because instead of making an official statement to police he arranged a secret private meeting with the killer.
12. The killer also stupid because there is nothing he can do to protect himself at this point because all phone calls are traceable and he was communicating with the director right before the meeting, and yet he is trying something.
13. THE MOMENT the story goes to the non consensual murder of a healthy person the whole concept of the series sabotages itself by removing any and all moral ambiguity to the character and his whole cultist gang of murderers.
14. So the police, including the main chap, is responsible for this avoidable murder.
15. The police has forgot about collecting evidence in the car where the “suicide” has happened. There has to be a syinge with the director's DNA and fingerprints on it, and his only.
16. COME ON, a policemen allowed a tiny nurse to go a home of a violent serial maniac murderer to search for evidence?
17. You can not really overdose on cannabis unless you would eat like s kilogram of edibles (not through smoking it), though even then it is safe unless you have specific lung conditions.
18. The lady pathologist is also written to be stupid. How does she except that the wounded euthaniser would be able formulate and adjust his aiming strategy in a split second?
19. And how does she even have anything to do with this at all, considering that she is a pathologist and neither of them are dead? She would not even have the right to access their medical files to learn anything about this.
1. No practical chance that police would bother about nonviolent deaths of teminally ill patients that can die at any moment even if the theoretical life span limit indicates it would be up to a few months longer. They would not even visit the place, the morgue transport workers would take the body and their is it.
2. Why would the killer doctor say that his patients can live for longer if he were to euthanise them anyway?
3. Why would the killer-doctor leave evidence like syringes on the scene?
4. Unopened potassium chloride concentrate is not stored in a fridge
5. No need to empty the bottles with the potassium chloride before getting rid of them.
6. No need to put the bottles in the fridge where a guest can find it
7. Autopsy results are not accessible to any personnel of a clinic except for pathologist and, then, investigators, unlike how it is shown in the series. The fact that the death was ruled to be unnatural is also concealed.
8. Search and seizure in the homes of a suspect are approved before the suspect can act.
9. Why does the nurse keep the bottles in her private box in the hospital? It makes no sense.
10. potassium chloride can be procured from lots of sources, it is not a regulated substance, so there is no need to come up with the whole scheme about stealing it from the clinic.
11. The director of the clinic was written to be insane because instead of making an official statement to police he arranged a secret private meeting with the killer.
12. The killer also stupid because there is nothing he can do to protect himself at this point because all phone calls are traceable and he was communicating with the director right before the meeting, and yet he is trying something.
13. THE MOMENT the story goes to the non consensual murder of a healthy person the whole concept of the series sabotages itself by removing any and all moral ambiguity to the character and his whole cultist gang of murderers.
14. So the police, including the main chap, is responsible for this avoidable murder.
15. The police has forgot about collecting evidence in the car where the “suicide” has happened. There has to be a syinge with the director's DNA and fingerprints on it, and his only.
16. COME ON, a policemen allowed a tiny nurse to go a home of a violent serial maniac murderer to search for evidence?
17. You can not really overdose on cannabis unless you would eat like s kilogram of edibles (not through smoking it), though even then it is safe unless you have specific lung conditions.
18. The lady pathologist is also written to be stupid. How does she except that the wounded euthaniser would be able formulate and adjust his aiming strategy in a split second?
19. And how does she even have anything to do with this at all, considering that she is a pathologist and neither of them are dead? She would not even have the right to access their medical files to learn anything about this.
If you are incapable of completely turning your brain off, you are going to be angry while watching the series.
The only supposedly good thing that could come out of tbis series is a push to allow medically justified euthanasia, but even this did not work because the authors conflated the issue with murderers and serial maniac killers.
The lad has basically stopped being an actor a while ago.
It is more profitable for GMMTV to keep Joong and Aou as band members rather than manage the hellish schedule conflicts to keep them as “couples”.
The only exception is WilliamEst so far.
I checked AouBoom a week ago and it looks like the Billionaire will be still be filmed, so maybe they did not break up?
EDIT: it looks like it was announced today. I understand the Aou Boom case because Aou is busy with his band, so it is a scheduling issue, besides everything else.
I guess is the same reason with Joong and Dunk split.
Just read the featured reviews with titles like “Romance not bromance” etc.
People are salivating a story that is executed as if it suggests more than it is, and this exact thing is a stigma of many censored productions (even though here the original was not censored, at least other than the author self).
My thoughts are all in that place, and I am not sure how much simpler it can be put.
The plus side us that there no “water” in it, something always happens. The music and actors, of course, production quality.
The timeline makes no sense because William's character acting as if Est' is already his love even though just a couple of days passed since they met.
It took the couple how many interactions not being able to establish a phone contact to each other? All for the stupid and forced “romantic” idea of remembering a phone number, even though you never need to dial it.
So maybe I was wrong and this show’s events are meant to happen not in the 2000s, but in the 1980s, rather.
WAIT, I am wrong again. The studio is keeping discarded lyrics and notation in boxes as paper, so it could not be the 1980s because computers were already used to store and archive that on tapes. So maybe the time of the events is 1950s.
And now we came to the worst sin of any LAZY scriptwriting: making up drama out of misunderstandings that requires writing a character to be stupid. Like in the case of rapper Dylan who was born able to add 2 to 2 and see that William’s character was not a “traitor”.
* * *
ANOTHER story about a straight guy who was turned gay by a guy, which absurd and can not happen at all.
Unless the person is autistic he does not require a methodology to understand how friendship differs from love in terms of feelings. It is impossible to mix up.
Idols and actors, including those who were filmed in this, do not engage with love romances. Even if they catch a feeling they tuck it away and continue to be professional almost always. They do not want to risk their careers.
Of course, idols can not go to “secret” underground rap battles or have time or the ability to “secretly” record songs or film videos, unless both of those things are absolutely amateurish and unusable for series promotions.
The idea to fake-compete with your friend for his love to supposedly facilitate it is not quite believable because among guys it is a taboo that can destroy friendship and trust forever even if you will claim last second that you do not have feelings for the friend’s object of love.