Some people watch fiction and forget that the writers aren't required to follow their personal definition of “realistic.”…
Agree with that, but there is a difference between just someone’s random expectations and the historical knowledge about how things have worked at a certain time and period.
Additionally, for a production there is so-called believability test (as per the Stanislavsky system, the Method), where actors are supposed to believe and to be believable in what and how they do and react in the suggested circumstances.
But when the role is written in a way that completely contradicts to the setting it means that you either should rewrite the role or the setting.
If left as is, it fails the believability test, distracts viewers, removes them from being submerged into the story.
It still could be fun, but would have been even way better if the script would undergone amendments to mitigate the issues that the production being a fiction does not excuse at all.
To be honest, it is always surprising to see just how many series that are very watchable have scenarists that do not practice the very basic craft that they are taught in college. They dissect many scenarios with faults like this and are made to offer fixes.
THE CASTING IS NOT fair to Inn because his partner is too chiselled (it is not even about the huge age difference,…
The series seems to be about how two lads have lost 15 years of their lives by not actually meeting and practicing love. The situation shown has happened in history many times and the only way that it was solved and made sense is them just continuing to meet for years privately, often never exposed and with no scandals during their lives,
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The mother back in the day would not suspect anything if the boys would sleep together as shown in the series in the beginning. The lads have grown up together very close and it does not have to mean anything “inappropriate” at all.
In fact, in almost all of mankind history males and females alike were sleeping together often on the same bed as they did not mid proximity, used to it due to cramping conditions be in the past generations or currently.
WHAT? Servants were never allowed to wear the same uniform as princes.
WAIT, how come the psychopathic sibling did not know that high class families have pre-arranged marriages, and why he would question the decisions of his father? Importable for the time and the stratum. It is also impossible that the main lad would not have known about this since childhood.
WHY the servant is being jealous and possessive about the prince? He has known from his early childhood that the prince will marry, and most likely with pre-arranged marriages with multiple wives. His behaviour in the series is not believable at all.
Back in the 1930s the competing faction was not progressives, but nationalists. Especially funny to see the military represented to be as progressives. When they come to power the nationalists have modelled themselves after fascist Japan and were doing lots of bad things, as expected, including banning Chinese minority, their culture, language and even their names: they were forced to rename themselves in Thai language so by now you can only guess who is Chinese by their looks.
WHY the maid explains to her 30 (!) year old sevant son what the concept of master is and his reputation? He knows it all from being a child,
LOL, for each of four times the couple had moments of intimacy in the first four episodes they were caught or seen first by the servant’s mother, then by the prince’s father, then by a princess, and then by the psycho sibling.
WAIT, did scientists forget that the princes knew in the first place that the prince does not love her? The drama about her discovering the prince's kissing his former servant is made up out of this air.
WHAT? Not only everybody and their uncle already witnessed the lads’ “secret” relationship with their own eyes, but now the servant’s mother is telling about it to hostile people on her own volition?
You would not lose consciousness right away just from being shot in the forearm, unlike how it is shown in the series.
The production of the setting is overall great, but the hospital is from the 21st century.
The story is supposed to be about epic romantic larger than life love, and yet the servant is using the naice prince for his revolutionary goals. That is really low and kind of contradicting the true love narrative.
The only compatible way to do this story would be doe the servant retire from the revolutionary commeettee or to break apartdrol the prince until the revolution occurred.
The scar the makeup artidtid have made for the servant looks nothing like from a cut.
The prince is supposed to be a bright mind but he is written to be obtuse about what the servant is doing with the whole revolution thing.
It is too convenient for scriptwriters that the servant all of the sudden did not confirm his love for the prince so he could not have heard the reassurance of what actually happened.
It makes no sense that the prince family has immediately forgot about all the honour and dignity they supposed to have to help the evil sibling to illegally avoid jail. The prince reaction is also weird because the evil sibling has tried to kill his lover, let alone a thief.
The only dignified way this could go would be for the evil prince to go to jail the full term. As is the character are not consistent.
Even right after the revolution and in an urgent sale the palace would have costed way more than 100K in 1932 baht money.
WHAT? The old prince thinks that the Siamese revolution was about turning the country communist? LOL, was the exact opposite as they have installed a fasdist military dictatorship.
WAIT, why the servant’s mother think that the royal family lives in poverty now because of her son and the revolution, and the prince grandmother does not argue against it even as if it makes any sense? The whole issue came from the theft by the evil sibling.
Scenarists should never use lines like “you lost right” if the actors do not look like that.
The evil sibling is not just evil hit stupid and cowardly, but in the end he is shown to all of the sudden risking his life to fight.
I have got the feeling of anxiety while watching the most of the series waiting for something bad to happen, and the ending did not betray the expectations.
There is some realism in the sad ending, though either they have reverted it in an unbelievable way. Why would be some mysterious villagers snatch one half-dead body of a random military person among dozens in the battlefield after undressing him so his uniform would be left there?
THE CASTING IS NOT fair to Inn because his partner is too chiselled (it is not even about the huge age difference, even though they should have been of the same age).
Inn himself is still good but if he was paired to a comparable lad it would better for them as a couple.
But I see that the production team was trying to show that the prince is more refined than a pleb, so I understand their choice.
Also, the story NEEDS some years of the lads being apart before it starts because otherwise it is not believable in sense that they would have started their relationship many years earlier as soon as they matured. Males do not work the way it is shown in the story as is, it just can not happen that they would only progress to fun all of the sudden only many years after their hormones would already make them crazy about this.
OR, they should have casted way younger actors.
Additionally, the royal sibling character is made to be a psychotic caricature. This is not how people were taught to behave themselves in those circumstances. NOBODY from the mobility class would be even raising the voice and yet this series shows endless scandals in the family like never happened in Thai high society.
The glaring plot hole is the suggestion that the evil lad does not know that his victim has got to the agency. With his ties, he would know right away.
Also, it is not believable at all that the stern boss lover would be able to hide the fact that he is the son of the former CEO of the media company. And the whole story about how and why she was removed is laughable, and it not believable that she would end her life over this that even her son was buying this.
The talent manager would have been long fired, had he only have an actor who can not be filmed because he is afraid of lenses, which is nonsense on its own, and a career criminal novice with none of them bringing money.
But, of course, the main lad would not be able to join the agency with such a resume in the first place.
Talent managers are not this type of kind uncles at all, they are highly pragmatic and cynical, always focused on competition and money.
The main lad is miscasted. The series repeatedly indicates that he should have most regular and unremarkable face while it is not that at all.
It is a bad idea to make a panic lad to be in a film where he has to portray the panic because playing it requires lots of workshops that would drill this stays and behaviour pattern into him even deeper.
Besides, there is no guarantee at all that he would be miraculously cured from this during the filming, matching the script. So he would have never been casted for any role in real life.
The maiming method the main lad is using on the panic lad is nonsense, it does not work as a treatment and it is dangerous to its victims.
The main lad is not believable. He is not supposed to be a eunuch and yet he does not have the need to have intimate fun. Maybe he has an illness?
Also, he always says he will pay with his body and yet plays in hard to get. Those are contradictory, it makes no sense.
The source material is Korean, and since we all know how totalitarian the “netizen” “fan” culture is there, it is impossible that the big star character would have been forgiven no matter join many apologises he would make.
It is not believable that the evil lad would let the main lad to go, instead of bringing him to the main villain as he was ordered to. I know we are hinted at the possibility that the evil las has a sort of remorse deep inside, but he is so evil that it just can not be.
Real life gangsters do not only have some wooden bats, they have electroshockers, let alone guns. The mail lad would be neutralised quickly.
After you get stabbed with almost no blood leaking and quick hospitalisation, you can not all of the sudden go to coma for weeks, it is not how it works at all.
It is not believable that a small scrawny old bodyguard would be this superhuman in strength.
There can be no surprises during shareholder director meetings. Aides and lawyers always read contracts preemptively. Also, even if a song it all of the sudden not covered by the contract, it can be replaced with a different one, so you do not need the stern lad after all if the company has any competent workers at all.
Also, you can not suddenly surprise the owner of the majority stake in a company with news that he does not own the shares. You can try to invalidate the transfer, but it usually takes years of trials.
With the stern lad owning the shares the whole story line of him wasting five years in the company as just a minor stakeholder makes no sense. Just as his whole construct with a production of a series. He did not need anything like that. He could have carried out his revenge right away.
People with cardio equipment do not have electro shockers because they can cause accident, so the scene of the main villain’s death is not believable.
is it illegal that i shipped him with shogun in payback?
THE ISSUE with this Boss actor is that he has such a presence abs charisma and delivers his perform and with such intensity that you can “ship” him with any actor who is his interest in any series. It all would look believable.
But is not Min the cutest baby lad? Maybe it is worth to watch at least for the eye-candy factor?
I just started to watch it.
It is so overboard that it is pretty ridiculous. The silly knife tricks, the blond wig, disgusting and stupid “bad ass” tobacco smoking (the source is Korean: they are fanatical about killing themselves), a CFO that randomly asssults contestants etc.
There would have been fewer questions if it was an anime.
But it looks like manga/manwa/novel narrative with typically ludicrous setting.
Maybe on par from the likes of the Chinese novel about snake-breeding gay gangs that was adapted once again last year (Revenged Love).
Why the BL genre is split apart so far between the most boring high school/college setting and some crazy stuff like this?
Oh and he was also “playing hard to get” because he had trust issues, and I don’t think it’s that easy…
That is fair in regards to dating that does require the ability to trust, but hookups are famous for their nature that does not require it.
You do not need to open up emotionally, explain anything or even talk at all. Just do your thing and goodbye until the next time, if it ever comes.
This means the show could basically do the same story but with hookups present. But the BL genre is for some reason about chastity fantasy nearly always.
Yes I get that you think that but let me js tell u a little something abt ur 2. Point because your saying that…
I would not say it never happens like in this and in nearly all of the thousands of BL series, but for males the drive for intimate fun is primary and it is the baseline for compatibility in any relationships that might follow.
It is not some platonic romantic fantasy like it can go with GL or even in regular hetero relationships (at least one sided, from female perspective).
Male relationships would not work if it turns out that you feel repulsive in regards how your partner looks and behaves privately.
So the best and safest way is to start with fun to see if it could work at all, and then check with yourself if you like the personality, too, and then it can go to dating.
1. the stylist has chosen tablecloth patterns way too much. Those were created for tablecloths and shirts of plumbers and mechanics because they hide dirt better for the day until they can be washed. They do not work too well in other applications.
2. the relationship dynamic is, as usual, unrealistic. In actual life lads hook-up before they decide on dating, and the partners are not playing hard to get for months because both are males and they are crazy about having fun with each other as soon and as often as possible. Especially if at least one of the lads is this proactively cute: it would have been impossible to withstand.
3. Nowadays most lads do not make any of the grandiose life long promises because they understand that love is most often a fleeting experience that only lasts for a few months and up to a few years. You would be almost guaranteed to become a liar and betray your promises like that if you make them. Neither you nor your partner can command their feelings. The love can disappear at any moment.
4. Introverts are not that because they had some childhood trauma, it is just their natural character, they simply do not want to say much. This misconception jumps from one Thai series to another.
5. The crazy caretaker is not belivable. Those people behave like that only while on poorly paid state funded social jobs or in random families that are not rich, unlike here. Also, it is not believable that she would not be prosecuted after this.
OF COURSE, overall the series is a cuteness overdose.
K-Drama 
Additionally, for a production there is so-called believability test (as per the Stanislavsky system, the Method), where actors are supposed to believe and to be believable in what and how they do and react in the suggested circumstances.
But when the role is written in a way that completely contradicts to the setting it means that you either should rewrite the role or the setting.
If left as is, it fails the believability test, distracts viewers, removes them from being submerged into the story.
It still could be fun, but would have been even way better if the script would undergone amendments to mitigate the issues that the production being a fiction does not excuse at all.
To be honest, it is always surprising to see just how many series that are very watchable have scenarists that do not practice the very basic craft that they are taught in college. They dissect many scenarios with faults like this and are made to offer fixes.
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The mother back in the day would not suspect anything if the boys would sleep together as shown in the series in the beginning. The lads have grown up together very close and it does not have to mean anything “inappropriate” at all.
In fact, in almost all of mankind history males and females alike were sleeping together often on the same bed as they did not mid proximity, used to it due to cramping conditions be in the past generations or currently.
WHAT? Servants were never allowed to wear the same uniform as princes.
WAIT, how come the psychopathic sibling did not know that high class families have pre-arranged marriages, and why he would question the decisions of his father? Importable for the time and the stratum. It is also impossible that the main lad would not have known about this since childhood.
WHY the servant is being jealous and possessive about the prince? He has known from his early childhood that the prince will marry, and most likely with pre-arranged marriages with multiple wives. His behaviour in the series is not believable at all.
Back in the 1930s the competing faction was not progressives, but nationalists. Especially funny to see the military represented to be as progressives. When they come to power the nationalists have modelled themselves after fascist Japan and were doing lots of bad things, as expected, including banning Chinese minority, their culture, language and even their names: they were forced to rename themselves in Thai language so by now you can only guess who is Chinese by their looks.
WHY the maid explains to her 30 (!) year old sevant son what the concept of master is and his reputation? He knows it all from being a child,
LOL, for each of four times the couple had moments of intimacy in the first four episodes they were caught or seen first by the servant’s mother, then by the prince’s father, then by a princess, and then by the psycho sibling.
WAIT, did scientists forget that the princes knew in the first place that the prince does not love her? The drama about her discovering the prince's kissing his former servant is made up out of this air.
WHAT? Not only everybody and their uncle already witnessed the lads’ “secret” relationship with their own eyes, but now the servant’s mother is telling about it to hostile people on her own volition?
You would not lose consciousness right away just from being shot in the forearm, unlike how it is shown in the series.
The production of the setting is overall great, but the hospital is from the 21st century.
The story is supposed to be about epic romantic larger than life love, and yet the servant is using the naice prince for his revolutionary goals. That is really low and kind of contradicting the true love narrative.
The only compatible way to do this story would be doe the servant retire from the revolutionary commeettee or to break apartdrol the prince until the revolution occurred.
The scar the makeup artidtid have made for the servant looks nothing like from a cut.
The prince is supposed to be a bright mind but he is written to be obtuse about what the servant is doing with the whole revolution thing.
It is too convenient for scriptwriters that the servant all of the sudden did not confirm his love for the prince so he could not have heard the reassurance of what actually happened.
It makes no sense that the prince family has immediately forgot about all the honour and dignity they supposed to have to help the evil sibling to illegally avoid jail. The prince reaction is also weird because the evil sibling has tried to kill his lover, let alone a thief.
The only dignified way this could go would be for the evil prince to go to jail the full term. As is the character are not consistent.
Even right after the revolution and in an urgent sale the palace would have costed way more than 100K in 1932 baht money.
WHAT? The old prince thinks that the Siamese revolution was about turning the country communist? LOL, was the exact opposite as they have installed a fasdist military dictatorship.
WAIT, why the servant’s mother think that the royal family lives in poverty now because of her son and the revolution, and the prince grandmother does not argue against it even as if it makes any sense? The whole issue came from the theft by the evil sibling.
Scenarists should never use lines like “you lost right” if the actors do not look like that.
The evil sibling is not just evil hit stupid and cowardly, but in the end he is shown to all of the sudden risking his life to fight.
I have got the feeling of anxiety while watching the most of the series waiting for something bad to happen, and the ending did not betray the expectations.
There is some realism in the sad ending, though either they have reverted it in an unbelievable way. Why would be some mysterious villagers snatch one half-dead body of a random military person among dozens in the battlefield after undressing him so his uniform would be left there?
Inn himself is still good but if he was paired to a comparable lad it would better for them as a couple.
But I see that the production team was trying to show that the prince is more refined than a pleb, so I understand their choice.
Also, the story NEEDS some years of the lads being apart before it starts because otherwise it is not believable in sense that they would have started their relationship many years earlier as soon as they matured. Males do not work the way it is shown in the story as is, it just can not happen that they would only progress to fun all of the sudden only many years after their hormones would already make them crazy about this.
OR, they should have casted way younger actors.
Additionally, the royal sibling character is made to be a psychotic caricature. This is not how people were taught to behave themselves in those circumstances. NOBODY from the mobility class would be even raising the voice and yet this series shows endless scandals in the family like never happened in Thai high society.
Actors did their job perfectly. The music, the camera work etc are all great.
Also, it is not believable at all that the stern boss lover would be able to hide the fact that he is the son of the former CEO of the media company. And the whole story about how and why she was removed is laughable, and it not believable that she would end her life over this that even her son was buying this.
The talent manager would have been long fired, had he only have an actor who can not be filmed because he is afraid of lenses, which is nonsense on its own, and a career criminal novice with none of them bringing money.
But, of course, the main lad would not be able to join the agency with such a resume in the first place.
Talent managers are not this type of kind uncles at all, they are highly pragmatic and cynical, always focused on competition and money.
The main lad is miscasted. The series repeatedly indicates that he should have most regular and unremarkable face while it is not that at all.
It is a bad idea to make a panic lad to be in a film where he has to portray the panic because playing it requires lots of workshops that would drill this stays and behaviour pattern into him even deeper.
Besides, there is no guarantee at all that he would be miraculously cured from this during the filming, matching the script. So he would have never been casted for any role in real life.
The maiming method the main lad is using on the panic lad is nonsense, it does not work as a treatment and it is dangerous to its victims.
The main lad is not believable. He is not supposed to be a eunuch and yet he does not have the need to have intimate fun. Maybe he has an illness?
Also, he always says he will pay with his body and yet plays in hard to get. Those are contradictory, it makes no sense.
The source material is Korean, and since we all know how totalitarian the “netizen” “fan” culture is there, it is impossible that the big star character would have been forgiven no matter join many apologises he would make.
It is not believable that the evil lad would let the main lad to go, instead of bringing him to the main villain as he was ordered to. I know we are hinted at the possibility that the evil las has a sort of remorse deep inside, but he is so evil that it just can not be.
Real life gangsters do not only have some wooden bats, they have electroshockers, let alone guns. The mail lad would be neutralised quickly.
After you get stabbed with almost no blood leaking and quick hospitalisation, you can not all of the sudden go to coma for weeks, it is not how it works at all.
It is not believable that a small scrawny old bodyguard would be this superhuman in strength.
There can be no surprises during shareholder director meetings. Aides and lawyers always read contracts preemptively. Also, even if a song it all of the sudden not covered by the contract, it can be replaced with a different one, so you do not need the stern lad after all if the company has any competent workers at all.
Also, you can not suddenly surprise the owner of the majority stake in a company with news that he does not own the shares. You can try to invalidate the transfer, but it usually takes years of trials.
With the stern lad owning the shares the whole story line of him wasting five years in the company as just a minor stakeholder makes no sense. Just as his whole construct with a production of a series. He did not need anything like that. He could have carried out his revenge right away.
People with cardio equipment do not have electro shockers because they can cause accident, so the scene of the main villain’s death is not believable.
A beautiful outside and ugly inside character.
It is so overboard that it is pretty ridiculous. The silly knife tricks, the blond wig, disgusting and stupid “bad ass” tobacco smoking (the source is Korean: they are fanatical about killing themselves), a CFO that randomly asssults contestants etc.
There would have been fewer questions if it was an anime.
But it looks like manga/manwa/novel narrative with typically ludicrous setting.
Maybe on par from the likes of the Chinese novel about snake-breeding gay gangs that was adapted once again last year (Revenged Love).
Why the BL genre is split apart so far between the most boring high school/college setting and some crazy stuff like this?
Not the case here because this aspect of the series is complete nonsense. Laughably contradicts to how and it happens in real life.
BUT the scenery, the colours, the music, actors' performances are great in this series.
The first five episodes were even pretty good, but then the script went off rails pretty bad.
You do not need to open up emotionally, explain anything or even talk at all. Just do your thing and goodbye until the next time, if it ever comes.
This means the show could basically do the same story but with hookups present. But the BL genre is for some reason about chastity fantasy nearly always.
It is not some platonic romantic fantasy like it can go with GL or even in regular hetero relationships (at least one sided, from female perspective).
Male relationships would not work if it turns out that you feel repulsive in regards how your partner looks and behaves privately.
So the best and safest way is to start with fun to see if it could work at all, and then check with yourself if you like the personality, too, and then it can go to dating.
1. the stylist has chosen tablecloth patterns way too much. Those were created for tablecloths and shirts of plumbers and mechanics because they hide dirt better for the day until they can be washed. They do not work too well in other applications.
2. the relationship dynamic is, as usual, unrealistic. In actual life lads hook-up before they decide on dating, and the partners are not playing hard to get for months because both are males and they are crazy about having fun with each other as soon and as often as possible. Especially if at least one of the lads is this proactively cute: it would have been impossible to withstand.
3. Nowadays most lads do not make any of the grandiose life long promises because they understand that love is most often a fleeting experience that only lasts for a few months and up to a few years. You would be almost guaranteed to become a liar and betray your promises like that if you make them. Neither you nor your partner can command their feelings. The love can disappear at any moment.
4. Introverts are not that because they had some childhood trauma, it is just their natural character, they simply do not want to say much. This misconception jumps from one Thai series to another.
5. The crazy caretaker is not belivable. Those people behave like that only while on poorly paid state funded social jobs or in random families that are not rich, unlike here. Also, it is not believable that she would not be prosecuted after this.
OF COURSE, overall the series is a cuteness overdose.