I believe it was a deliberate choice to pay homage to the manhua "Chang Ge Xing" it was adapted from &…
It's def. A mixture of slow burn and enemies to lovers. I did like the fact that the situation with the emperor was very different from what I'm used to seeing. But this was one series where I had to do a lot of skipping..
yeah same, I totally agree with your opinion.after watching "be yourself", i watched something similar…
I really hope Be Yourself gets a S2. He wasn't even trying to hide how powerful she was and when he showed out, he showed OUT. I loved that. I'll take a look at that other series you mentioned. Thanks for the rec.
I'm okay with the reborn revenge plot. Some have been really good. But what pisses me off about this one is the FL thinking she's the smartest person in the room and acting as if she hasn't needed to be saved by the ML time and time again. Her hot and cold attitude towards him is annoying.
I actually want him to let her deal with her own problems for once and see how she gets out of trouble then with no fighting skills. That was one of the things I loved about Cruel Romance. Ol girl didn't appreciate him and he let her learn some of her lessons the hard way. I said some because he was still helping her ungrateful ass out.
I happened to like shows with premises like this. That's why I really enjoyed "Be Yourself" but this is not that. The ML lacks charm, charisma and I think he's uttered maybe 10 lines in the whole series thus far. All he does is smirk and let the women talk for him. I find him boring and the few instances where he's shown how powerful he is are few and far between. Him still hiding his true identity is a tired ass trope and really makes no sense. It's as if the writers are so pathetic, they can't come up with another plot device to further the paper thin plot other than that.
I had hopes this would be a series where the badass is just kicking ass and taking names and I was okay with the harem of women fawning over him. I watch Anime, I'm used to that nonsense. But this is failing me.
After episodes 19 , misunderstanding and patch up and then prince An manipulate FL , she believes him then breakup…
The issue with her is she acts like she has to avenge her master when she doesn't even need her masters warning. Her master told her to lives Duke An alone. To stay away from him and she acts like she never heard those words. She's constantly going to him, allowing him to romanticize her when she knows it upsets her husband. Her behavior is indecent even in these modern times. That is the most annoying thing to me about her. They want to make her daring and adventurous with a strong since of justice, but she just comes off as troublesome and gullible.
Watched this for ZZH; it's a shame he was blacklisted at the time his career was rising. Despite that, I'm surprised…
I get you about the FL and her sister. At times they are insufferable, especially her. Like, her masters dying words were for her to leave Duke An alone and she acts like that never happened because she is always spending time with him even when she knows her master didn't trust him nor does her husband. But let another woman come smiling at him and she's gets an attitude and wants to throw tantrums. I don't like her double standard and can't wait for her to experience the betrayal of Duke An first hand. Since she never bothered to heed the warnings of ppl who love her.
As for her sister, she's another self righteous,know it all, that likes to waggle her finger at everyone, ep. The 2ML. Sometimes, I'm okay with her, but others, she works my nerves. Especially when that coyness.
Well, currently watching, on EP, 23, because I was in the mood for some scheming mofos. Some obsessed ppl trying to claim who don't belong to them. So far, it's giving me what I want.
But I also hate stupid characters and characters who don't do the most common sense shit to avoid drama.
1. The Ruyi leader could have told her why she shouldn't trust Duke An. She didn't even have to go into details, just some things could have been revealed. She knew how stubborn and stupid her disciple was. Because even though she tried to make her promise to leave that man alone and run away when you see him, which was the last thing she warned her about, the FL STILL ignored the warning and continues to trust a man her master begged her not to trust. So much for being honorable, so gets what she asks for when that betrayal comes a knocking because she was warned.
2. ML Duke Su, could have told her about his encounter with her Master at any time after saving her from certain death. At least she would have had his side of the story. Instead, he didn't say anything knowing everything that was going down.
3. FL could have asked him about that day instead of taking everyone's word for him being the murderer, even the word of the man her master begged her not to hang out with over her man who risked everything to save her. She pissed me off with that shit. When your goofy ass was accused of murder, and superficial evidence pointed to you, he didn't even doubt you for a min. But here your ass is, quick to turn feral. You better never doubt him again for the rest of you life!
4. Duke An is a POS for wanting to blame a 12 year old child for the death and cover up for his mother. I want to see him unravel when shit just doesn't go his way.
I admire your "no excuses" policy and your sense of putting responsibility onto people. I agree that Gao…
People's actions speak for them and his actions have been appalling. If Gao didn't accept the treatment, Shen would have been forced to change, but he does, so Shen doesn't. That Omega scent has been on Gao since they were teens. The only that that's probably changed is that it's growing stronger and Gao is growing weaker and the inhibitor is not as effective.
But Shen has had long enough time to treat Gao better. Why is he still the boy who puts gum in someone's hair and bullies them just because he secretly likes them?
I admire your "no excuses" policy and your sense of putting responsibility onto people. I agree that Gao…
There's only so much advice I can give to a person who won't take it and there's only so much patience I have to listen to a person complain about their life that they refuse to change any part of it for the better.
One of my fav. Quotes is from the anime Ruroni Kenshin when Hiko said "it is foolish to listen to someone who will not listen to you."
Even Gao's doc told him to seek therapy because he's tired of talking to him, too.
Shen, being the type of person he is, doesn't deserve Gao's devotion. So, he had friends in the past who used him... Fine. Leave those ppl alone. But for someone like Gao, who he's been the one using since they were teenagers, he should value that relationship since Gao has proven that his feelings are genuine. But he doesn't.
He can have all of the reasons for why he's treating Gao like crap, every day, for YEARS, and none of them will matter. He's a villain. Plain and simple.
Gao is with him because, maybe in some deep creases, he likes the abuse. Being hated verifies his own self-hatred.
As for his dad, he can stand up to him when he wants to, like when he told his dad that if he shows up at his job and gets him fired, he won't be getting any more money. Honestly, that money would be better spent on hiring a hit man than wasting it on his father. His dad will never leave him alone if he keeps that door open. And harassing his sister, what is his dad going to do to her when she's in the hospital? If he tries to drag her out .. beat his ass.
But like I said in the very first post, that requires having a spine.
Shen could still have paid for those bills. No excuses. No one sees their friend struggling, if they are truly caring, and does NOTHING to help them, unless they aren't real friend to begin with.
As for his ppl gossiping at the job. They do that anyway and had he paid anonymously, no one needs to know.
Him taking credit wasn't because he had to cover for Hua. Because he could have said "No, I didn't" and Gao would have just wondered who did? It's not like Gao would have instantly known Sheng did it.
But as soon as Shen lied and took credit, Gao felt even more indebted to him. That was the result of that lie. Shen likes this man clinging to him like a life raft. It boosts his ego to be so worshipped by this one man. He needs it like air.
Let Gao grow a spine and some self respect and leave and see how Shen reacts.
Like, I said, I find their interactions annoying. Every scene is Shen spitting in Gao's face and Gao bowing his head and asking for more. As an audience, the writer obviously wants me to feel sorry for Gao and look deeper into Shen to try to understand why he's so mean.
I don't care. I'm sick of them and until their dynamic changes, I will tune out the repetitive insults, because not even Shen's insults are creative. Every day, he's bitching about that Omega scent. And only on Gao, he doesn't complain about the other Omega's who work for him. Only because Gao is his punching bag and has been for over a decade.
That's a long time to be doing what they are both doing.
I admire your "no excuses" policy and your sense of putting responsibility onto people. I agree that Gao…
I think when ppl see Shen asking about Gao's whereabouts when he's not around, they take that as him being worried.
But for me, I'm only seeing it as him wondering where his human punching bag is at. He can't get in his daily insults if Gao's not there to receive them. Because as soon as Gao is there, he unleashes the venom and he can see that what he says affect Gao in a negative way and he's never stopped. So, to me, Shen and Gao's relationship isn't one I'm rooting for.
Both of these relationships are toxic Shen and Gao and Sheng and Hau, but only one looks very painful to be in. At least Hua and Sheng enjoy each other's company. I can't say the same for Shen and Gao. Some very unhealthy fetishes going on there.
I admire your "no excuses" policy and your sense of putting responsibility onto people. I agree that Gao…
I do respect your opinion and analysis of Gao. But I will flip the script on it. He is the only one who can overcome his self-hatred and fear.
My experiences with ppl like him is that you can't save them unless they're ready to be saved. And if you fight for them, they will leave you standing alone, because they've always been too afraid to fight for themselves.
His father is a threat, yet he keeps him in his life. He answers the phone calls, why does his father even have his number and know anything about him? With a father like that, he'd have to learn the hard way not to mess with me. And as long as he's willing to be abused, the abuser won't stop.
His sister being in the hospital is a problem, but that DOESN'T excuse him continuing to stay with Shen.
And bringing up why Shen is still with him,... So what if he keeps him close. So do abusive husbands to the wives they beat. Who benefits from Shen keeping Gao close? Gao's obsession for Shen has only fed Shen's ego. Shen even took credit for paying for the hospital bill only because he knew it would make Gao feel even more beholden to him, while he can continue to kick him around. What does he get out of insulting this man who's been devoted without fail, to him for over a decade? When will Shen get tired of abusing him? When Gao has a fatal reaction to the pain meds and injections. Will that be the deciding factor?
Also, if Shen really cared, knowing Gao's situation with his sister, why didn't he already pay for the bills. He could have done so anonymously, but being that generous isn't in his personality. He'd want credit.
Gao could work for Mr. Sheng and probably make more money and not have to worry about his Omega scent or be insulted all day every day. But no, he chooses the hardest, ugliest road he can.
So, I can't give him passes for choosing to harm himself mentally, emotionally and physically for the sake of someone who has proven he doesn't appreciate him. Like Gao knows the choices he's made and continue to make are wrong, but he doesn't want to do right by himself. Not yet, at least.
yah like what was the reason for the additional public humiliation? girl aren't you doing this bc u 'love' him?…
It's just cliche, terrible, lazy writing. These characters better be happy the men, (cause it's usually FL characters who do that) are Soooo in love and devoted, that they never give up.
Especially when the truth finally comes out, it's not even 1% as bad as the goofy character made it out to be. She was acting like this man was going to throw himself off a cliff into shallow waters if he found out. And when he found out, because he was already suspicious, he didn't believe that nonsense anyway.
You seem to be sharing my opinion. Everybody here is having the opinion that Shen is the big bad wolf, honestly…
Naw, i'm good on those spoilers, unless they change the story. I can wait to find out. Yeah, the main couple is where my interest lie. They are more entertaining. Gao and Shen, whenever they're on screen, I just want to fast forward because he may be able to take being a doormat this guy will rub his shit-stained boots on, but for me, it's intolerable.
Gao is the kind of person, you can't even try to stand up for him, because the moment someone tries to tell Shen he's wrong, Gao will just get mad at them and/or offer excuses for Shen and say "It's okay. I'm okay," knowing damn well he has never been 'okay".
Even his doctor told him he needed therapy. Their scenes are all about abuse without deviation. Even when he contemplated leaving, he refused to do so.
Hua is the MC and I want to know what his whole game plan is. Sheng is already in love and ready to mark him, especially now. Hua is making him so desperate romantically and professionally, because excluding his company from the meeting was so deliberate.
You seem to be sharing my opinion. Everybody here is having the opinion that Shen is the big bad wolf, honestly…
He's CHOOSING to allow himself to be abused. He could quit that job and work for another company. But he has CHOSEN to follow Shen for over a decade, allowing that man to abuse him the whole time. He's not in some situation where he's a slave without the option for freedom. He has enslaved himself due to his own self-hatred. I refuse to make excuses for people who have no self-respect or integrity. Be them fictional or not.
You seem to be sharing my opinion. Everybody here is having the opinion that Shen is the big bad wolf, honestly…
Yeah, I love this Enigma scenes too. He's a ruthless badass and not only does he drop the omega act, but also the nice guy act. That's why I'm wondering how Sheng will accept the real him once he's trapped. He'll probably be too far gone in love to back out.
I'm curious as to who will mark who or impregnate who between the S class Alpha and an Enigma.
As for Gao, I 💯 agree. He annoys the hell out of me. His weak personality, the way he talks, the way he lies to himself, the way he cowards. They way he lets Shen just insult him every chance he gets.
I have a hard time, if not impossible time feeling sympathy or empathy for ppl who refuse to fight for themselves.
You know what, I'm glad he made her ass beg for his help the second time around. She approached him and used him in exchange for the little help she provided to him. He was there for her every time and didn't ask for anything in return. Then when he tried to tell her how much he cared and wanted to help her even more... here her ungrateful ass tell him "I only trust myself."
Oh really ? Well if that were the case, why did you depend on him to come through for you all of those times that he did. She cut him off cold, basically threw him away like she didn't need him. Then low and behold, here so comes, crawling back, begging for his help and I'm glad he didn't make it too easy for her. That's what she gets for treating people who willing helped you like crap.
I'm all for her getting her revenge, but she acted like she did it all on her own, when she may have died or suffered at least 3 times had it not been for the ML.
I hate when they write ungrateful characters who pretend like they don't care or need help when they obviously do.
I know, right. He's pathetic. If he actually said "I quit and also, I'm an Omega". I bet dude would be…
Yeah, the doctor wasn't direct enough, so it allows Shen to just assume he was talking about the scent of Gao's omega and not Gao himself. So, we'll have to wait for Gao to grow a pair.
But I'm loving Hua acting like a brutal mob boss and possessive over his man. 😂
I know, right. He's pathetic. If he actually said "I quit and also, I'm an Omega". I bet dude would be…
I'm currently watching ep. 5 and I was close. He did end up in the hospital with his Alpha by his side and the doctor hinting heavily that he was an Omega.
I know, right. He's pathetic. If he actually said "I quit and also, I'm an Omega". I bet dude would be…
I predict he'll end up on his death bed and his boss will be notified and rush to his side. At that point, all will be revealed and they'll have to proceed from there. Or, he comes to his home and realized that Omega scent is coming from Gao Tu.
In any case, I don't think Gao has the guts to take a stand and the way Shen will find out will be clearly from circumstances Gao can't control.
I actually want him to let her deal with her own problems for once and see how she gets out of trouble then with no fighting skills. That was one of the things I loved about Cruel Romance. Ol girl didn't appreciate him and he let her learn some of her lessons the hard way. I said some because he was still helping her ungrateful ass out.
I had hopes this would be a series where the badass is just kicking ass and taking names and I was okay with the harem of women fawning over him. I watch Anime, I'm used to that nonsense. But this is failing me.
I stand by what I said. I don't feel like he was wrong. But others are free to blame him if they want. I don't.
As for her sister, she's another self righteous,know it all, that likes to waggle her finger at everyone, ep. The 2ML. Sometimes, I'm okay with her, but others, she works my nerves. Especially when that coyness.
But I also hate stupid characters and characters who don't do the most common sense shit to avoid drama.
1. The Ruyi leader could have told her why she shouldn't trust Duke An. She didn't even have to go into details, just some things could have been revealed. She knew how stubborn and stupid her disciple was. Because even though she tried to make her promise to leave that man alone and run away when you see him, which was the last thing she warned her about, the FL STILL ignored the warning and continues to trust a man her master begged her not to trust. So much for being honorable, so gets what she asks for when that betrayal comes a knocking because she was warned.
2. ML Duke Su, could have told her about his encounter with her Master at any time after saving her from certain death. At least she would have had his side of the story. Instead, he didn't say anything knowing everything that was going down.
3. FL could have asked him about that day instead of taking everyone's word for him being the murderer, even the word of the man her master begged her not to hang out with over her man who risked everything to save her. She pissed me off with that shit. When your goofy ass was accused of murder, and superficial evidence pointed to you, he didn't even doubt you for a min. But here your ass is, quick to turn feral. You better never doubt him again for the rest of you life!
4. Duke An is a POS for wanting to blame a 12 year old child for the death and cover up for his mother. I want to see him unravel when shit just doesn't go his way.
But Shen has had long enough time to treat Gao better. Why is he still the boy who puts gum in someone's hair and bullies them just because he secretly likes them?
One of my fav. Quotes is from the anime Ruroni Kenshin when Hiko said "it is foolish to listen to someone who will not listen to you."
Even Gao's doc told him to seek therapy because he's tired of talking to him, too.
Shen, being the type of person he is, doesn't deserve Gao's devotion. So, he had friends in the past who used him... Fine. Leave those ppl alone. But for someone like Gao, who he's been the one using since they were teenagers, he should value that relationship since Gao has proven that his feelings are genuine. But he doesn't.
He can have all of the reasons for why he's treating Gao like crap, every day, for YEARS, and none of them will matter. He's a villain. Plain and simple.
Gao is with him because, maybe in some deep creases, he likes the abuse. Being hated verifies his own self-hatred.
As for his dad, he can stand up to him when he wants to, like when he told his dad that if he shows up at his job and gets him fired, he won't be getting any more money. Honestly, that money would be better spent on hiring a hit man than wasting it on his father. His dad will never leave him alone if he keeps that door open. And harassing his sister, what is his dad going to do to her when she's in the hospital? If he tries to drag her out .. beat his ass.
But like I said in the very first post, that requires having a spine.
Shen could still have paid for those bills. No excuses. No one sees their friend struggling, if they are truly caring, and does NOTHING to help them, unless they aren't real friend to begin with.
As for his ppl gossiping at the job. They do that anyway and had he paid anonymously, no one needs to know.
Him taking credit wasn't because he had to cover for Hua. Because he could have said "No, I didn't" and Gao would have just wondered who did? It's not like Gao would have instantly known Sheng did it.
But as soon as Shen lied and took credit, Gao felt even more indebted to him. That was the result of that lie. Shen likes this man clinging to him like a life raft. It boosts his ego to be so worshipped by this one man. He needs it like air.
Let Gao grow a spine and some self respect and leave and see how Shen reacts.
Like, I said, I find their interactions annoying. Every scene is Shen spitting in Gao's face and Gao bowing his head and asking for more. As an audience, the writer obviously wants me to feel sorry for Gao and look deeper into Shen to try to understand why he's so mean.
I don't care. I'm sick of them and until their dynamic changes, I will tune out the repetitive insults, because not even Shen's insults are creative. Every day, he's bitching about that Omega scent. And only on Gao, he doesn't complain about the other Omega's who work for him. Only because Gao is his punching bag and has been for over a decade.
That's a long time to be doing what they are both doing.
But for me, I'm only seeing it as him wondering where his human punching bag is at. He can't get in his daily insults if Gao's not there to receive them. Because as soon as Gao is there, he unleashes the venom and he can see that what he says affect Gao in a negative way and he's never stopped. So, to me, Shen and Gao's relationship isn't one I'm rooting for.
Both of these relationships are toxic Shen and Gao and Sheng and Hau, but only one looks very painful to be in. At least Hua and Sheng enjoy each other's company. I can't say the same for Shen and Gao. Some very unhealthy fetishes going on there.
My experiences with ppl like him is that you can't save them unless they're ready to be saved. And if you fight for them, they will leave you standing alone, because they've always been too afraid to fight for themselves.
His father is a threat, yet he keeps him in his life. He answers the phone calls, why does his father even have his number and know anything about him? With a father like that, he'd have to learn the hard way not to mess with me. And as long as he's willing to be abused, the abuser won't stop.
His sister being in the hospital is a problem, but that DOESN'T excuse him continuing to stay with Shen.
And bringing up why Shen is still with him,... So what if he keeps him close. So do abusive husbands to the wives they beat. Who benefits from Shen keeping Gao close? Gao's obsession for Shen has only fed Shen's ego. Shen even took credit for paying for the hospital bill only because he knew it would make Gao feel even more beholden to him, while he can continue to kick him around. What does he get out of insulting this man who's been devoted without fail, to him for over a decade? When will Shen get tired of abusing him? When Gao has a fatal reaction to the pain meds and injections. Will that be the deciding factor?
Also, if Shen really cared, knowing Gao's situation with his sister, why didn't he already pay for the bills. He could have done so anonymously, but being that generous isn't in his personality. He'd want credit.
Gao could work for Mr. Sheng and probably make more money and not have to worry about his Omega scent or be insulted all day every day. But no, he chooses the hardest, ugliest road he can.
So, I can't give him passes for choosing to harm himself mentally, emotionally and physically for the sake of someone who has proven he doesn't appreciate him. Like Gao knows the choices he's made and continue to make are wrong, but he doesn't want to do right by himself. Not yet, at least.
Especially when the truth finally comes out, it's not even 1% as bad as the goofy character made it out to be. She was acting like this man was going to throw himself off a cliff into shallow waters if he found out. And when he found out, because he was already suspicious, he didn't believe that nonsense anyway.
Gao is the kind of person, you can't even try to stand up for him, because the moment someone tries to tell Shen he's wrong, Gao will just get mad at them and/or offer excuses for Shen and say "It's okay. I'm okay," knowing damn well he has never been 'okay".
Even his doctor told him he needed therapy. Their scenes are all about abuse without deviation. Even when he contemplated leaving, he refused to do so.
Hua is the MC and I want to know what his whole game plan is. Sheng is already in love and ready to mark him, especially now. Hua is making him so desperate romantically and professionally, because excluding his company from the meeting was so deliberate.
I'm curious as to who will mark who or impregnate who between the S class Alpha and an Enigma.
As for Gao, I 💯 agree. He annoys the hell out of me. His weak personality, the way he talks, the way he lies to himself, the way he cowards. They way he lets Shen just insult him every chance he gets.
I have a hard time, if not impossible time feeling sympathy or empathy for ppl who refuse to fight for themselves.
Oh really ? Well if that were the case, why did you depend on him to come through for you all of those times that he did. She cut him off cold, basically threw him away like she didn't need him. Then low and behold, here so comes, crawling back, begging for his help and I'm glad he didn't make it too easy for her. That's what she gets for treating people who willing helped you like crap.
I'm all for her getting her revenge, but she acted like she did it all on her own, when she may have died or suffered at least 3 times had it not been for the ML.
I hate when they write ungrateful characters who pretend like they don't care or need help when they obviously do.
But I'm loving Hua acting like a brutal mob boss and possessive over his man. 😂
In any case, I don't think Gao has the guts to take a stand and the way Shen will find out will be clearly from circumstances Gao can't control.
But, I hope I'm wrong.