I was one of them but I am not from China so I know no better. Just didn't think she was that popular compared…
π LMAO! Yeah! ZLY is still saying YM ignores her and stole Krish Wu from her. I'm like, just shut up already.
At that time, Li Xian ignored her bc she was married. Now she's divorced, they put her next to Li Xian again during Harper's BAZAAR. Pretty sure Li Xian knew about her evil marketing, he was there the whole time he knew what happened and it was nothing like how the media said about him and YM. She's divorced now and he still completely ignores her. π So funny when he turned body towards Victoria Song and started conversations with her, ZLY rolled her eyes at them and then suddenly got afraid if she was being recorded, she started searching everywhere if there were cameras around. Lei Jiayin next to her others side was even more hilarious. He was just praying to god "Don't market attack me, PLZ don't market attack me" and BAM, they market attack him cause he woudn't speak to her. If he spoke or look at her he'll offend somebody big, if he doesn't he'll still offend her. He completely froze his attention HARD to the front and the boring stage, even when they announced her name as winner he did not even change his body language to congrats her right next to him. He was soooooooooo afraid of offending her you can tell he yelled out "Great!" and clapped for her, but still completely glued to the front and wouldn't interact with her a tiny bit.
I was one of them but I am not from China so I know no better. Just didn't think she was that popular compared…
After checking out some discussions on forums like Zhihu, just a guess, she's probably a mistress of someone powerful. I wouldn't be surprised at all if it's someone last name Xi and name starts with letter J.
If you look at Jing Tian, who is often accused of having "powerful backer" from the government, it happened many many times:
"Jing Tian has been in Hollywood blockbusters such as The Great Wall with Matt Damon and Kong: Skull Island. Chinese actress Jing Tian was slapped with a million-dollar fine for breaching the nation's advertising law by touting candies as a weight-loss drug."
She is banned from advertisement until 3 years, happened a year after her success in Rattan.
Hm... Doesn't look very smooth to me... Doesn't seems to be very favored by the government... This is what people call the most hated actress cause of her back ups? IDK...
After thinking through, I think it isn't true that Jing Tian has powerful backer but bc she made it to Hollywood, which is what ZLY wants the most, so Jing Tian got defamed being a woman who slept her way up.
If you compare Jing Tian with ZLY, ZLY is very serious about her "no backup" branding. It's been 2 decades, Sohu still have to convince everyone for sure she has no backup.
After JT got fined, netz also questioned the government how come ZLY didn't get fined too. JT got fined because she advertised a product without enough scientific research behind the "weight loss" claim, but it was only her first time. ZLY, on the other hand, advertises bird nests since forever, and her claims are way more ridiculous. She claims to eat a package per day and the health benefits are "eternal youth, longevity, weight loss, energetic, skin brightening, maternal recovery, etc" All of those are also none scientifically proven, and today, she's still advertising them.
Another association ZLY has with the government is the false donation news. She is quite known for admiring Hu Ge. He was the first to won an Ambassador award for his hometown. ZLY decided she also wants an Ambassador award for her hometown in Hebei, and one was created for her as wished. Around the same time when she became an Ambassador, the road in her hometown was also coincidentally fixed. The villagers made the assumptions that ZLY built the road because she was Ambassador around the same time, also cause that's what everyone said online. But the villagers were a little disappointed that ZLY is very rich, how come she only swept the road? LMAO! Who can't agree? I mean, LOOK AT THE PHOTOS...
The interview with a villager: Interviewer: "Who built the road?" Villager: "ZLY did. Everyone said it's her" Interviewer: "What did you think about the road?" Villager: "The road was fixed, yes, but it was only a little bit better than before, it's not that good."
LOL! Yes, the old guy (villager) is totally telling the truth, it wasn't really fixed at all. They only swept it a little, the potholes will form again.
ZLY's fans came to her defend, they cursed the villagers being "greedy" and "ungrateful" for almost 2 years. ZLY purposely acted like she didn't know and she's a quiet person so she didn't need to answer. After such a long time passed, she said to the public it wasn't her but she also spoke with a very innocent, non-serious laugh. It made the interviewer thought she built it, but wanted to remain humble so she's denying. So the interviewer kept asking again and again for her to be serious, and she still answered in laughters all the time. So, to this day, her fans are still saying, she fixed it.
If ZLY fixed the road, what is her connection with "higher authorities"???
Still, another question, since she didn't fix the road, why isn't the "higher authorities" mad over her false marketing?
On Sohu, her news are still like this:
https://www.sohu.com/a/680528228_121311696 Under the expansion: "After becoming famous, she still remembers her hometown and personally pays for road construction for her hometown."
Just look at that date, that was published just a few days ago!
Up to this day and year... ZLY still has the audacity to keep saying she built the road. I don't know what to say anymore. Usually, whether an actor is lying intentionally or UN-intentionally, they MUST explain on matters like this ASAP.
I don't know what type of special power is behind ZLY but it seems very powerful.
As an Ambassador, this is very shameless. She can never wait to see whenever her colleagues have a bad news and will make comparisons of herself with them, like when YM had the donation scandal, her news will say YM is immoral to indulge in fraudulent donations while ZLY is a heart of gold. YM's scandal was embarassing, yes, but that was at least bc they contracted a "scammer" that lied to them, that's why they never knew the recipient never received anything bc they were told by the person they hired everything went well. Plus, the recipient never follow up either, that's why they thought everything must've been alright. After many years passed the recipient suddenly wanted to bring up trouble when they could've done it right there and then, I say they were high suspicious. Besides, YM didn't even brag day and night about the donation like ZLY. They were willing to go public and apologize. Unlike ZLY who is still "silent" today and bragging.
This is why colleagues dislike ZLY and avoid her, it's not because she came from the countryside. The truth is, Xie Na, Zhou Dongyu, Gong Li, Zhang Ziyi all came from the countryside. Urban people do not look down on rural people. Ni Ni didn't exactly come from the rural side but also didn't have acting background like ZLY. There are many actors like that, they didn't attend acting school, and they don't get hated for any of that. The problem with ZLY is nothing about her rural culture or lack of education. Problem is, she often advertises herself as someone who can act better than those who went to school. Her colleagues dislike her bc of conceitedness and victim playing.
She got into the industry by Feng Xiaogang in 2006. Feng Xiaogang is almost as famous as Zhang Yimou, and has good connections with the government. When he and several directors scouted new talents through the Yahoo Star Search, ZLY dated her ugly manager so he would pay the application fees, tickets, clothes, traveling, and other expenses. Although her performance was really bad, the sacrifice she made for a little competition like that was a lot. Yahoo competition was in 2006, within the same year, she already had an "Empress" role in "King of Nanyue Kingdom". She may appeared very shortly in it, but if you think about it, LOOK AT THE CAST! Top notched actors: Ray Lui Ning Jing Tang Guo Qiang - Most famous Zhuge Liang 1994 Such a big production like that takes a long time before it can air. For the drama to air in 2006, and she also shot the scenes in the same year 2006, right after she just won the award in 2006, all that means... FXG favored her very much and helped her ASAP. The production already worked on editing when they specially arranged for her to shoot scenes the very last minute. Even people with schooling background (even the "rich" backgrounds like FSF at that time) cannot get such roles like that, plus special arrangements at the same time, during the competitve 2000s. If you look at what FSF gets to play in the early 2000s, it wasn't any much better, and he's that "rich" guy. She was also given many advertisements to shoot, she even worked with big names like Zhou Xun and they had a photo together as evidence. But all that was not enough bc YM was already famous at that time as the "support" in ROCH. ZLY was still nowhere close to YM or LYF in 2006 although her opportunities were not exactly as bad as she made it sounds. So she complains a lot about how she had a hard journey... I will say for someone in the mid 2000s like that, it wasn't a hard journey considering even those with "backgrounds" still can't get what she got. YM worked her way up as well, she started out as supports only, and was even physically abused before by directors who wanted their women to play the role she had. Not everyone had it easy. Even someone as beautiful as Liu Yifei, had it not been because of the powerful connection, perhaps, she too also couldn't have been XLN no matter how talented. Mid 2000s were harsh years for everyone, but the qualities were undeniably excellent. Since the internet is obviously pretty much controlled in China, and ZLY can get her hands on it, she's not very simple. During the time ZLY's fans fought with WYB's fans, his fans brought up all her scandals. That's why the government muted her because they needed excuses to clean that up and delete those comments about her. YM is famous for being protective of her child's face circulating online, although ZLY brags a lot about herself being even "more" protective, she was very worried during the time she got muted because netz brought up the speculation of who fathered her child, so she purposedly unmasked her child to the public to "hint" that he looks exactly like his father FSF. Somehow the government said she was supposed to be muted and lots of her fans accounts got banned, but lots of fake commenters still came to post on the photo "looks just like FSF". Very odd. ZLY and Kris Wu were from the same broker and agency. For Kris being able to hid his criminal activities for that long, his connections isn't simple either.
I was one of them but I am not from China so I know no better. Just didn't think she was that popular compared…
Yes! In the past, it's actually possible for people to become A-listers for only 1 show. They did not have to star a million different roles to be considered versatile. There are some roles that make a character change/develop dramatically, they can prove versatile skills within a single show. Back then, after seeing a person lead, it doesn't mean they will always continue leading. They could be villains or even minor characters the next round continuously. Opportunity is opportunity, whatever role they get, just do them well. That's what it means to play different characters and be versatile back then.
In the early 2000s, not many people can afford computers yet. If they can, they might not be able to afford internet along with it and only use the computers to play the software games downloaded to their computers. I usually go to the library for internet. I used SPCNET back then, I noticed a bit fanwars sometimes, but they aren't huge. It's a helpful forum bc each casette/cd per episode can amount to a lot, you don't want to spend on anything crappy so it's good to read/share some spoilers/reviews online. I don't think forums and fans discussion affect anything during those days. Making profit depends on the quality of the work, they have to make people want to buy, not to click (easy) like right now. The standards back then are a lot more strict.
When Chinese Paladin hit in 2004, all the young actors were new. Paradise 2003 had many famous stars like Ada Choi, Yu Bo, Monica Chan, etc. but I didn't chose to rent that one. I only found out many years later that it was an ok show to watch, crappy CGI but still engaging. I chose to rent Chinese Paladin instead. Although the seniored actors at that time had very very strong foothold in the industry, the new actors in Chinese Paladin performed so well that they easily replaced seniored actors overnight. No wars. No jealousy things going on like, they're new, we're seniors, respect us, dadadadada.... The way things work back then is super different from now. Whoever is truly talented and creative wins, no hard feelings, as true artists passionate in the field, everyone wants to see amazing stuff produced. Not to see a bunch of crappy shits like right now. Wallace Huo, Hu Ge, Liu Yifei, Yang Mi, Liu Shi Shi had experiences working with truly top notched and professional directors, I bet they have some knowledge about what makes great shows, but they just can't do anything these days cause they're not the producers and directors. Now, they're working with less competitive directors, it is just what it is. Not within their control. Antis will say stuff, label this actress and that actress super powerful and rich although they're actors only but they can still produce but they wouldn't dadadaaa... yeah right! Actors are actors and directors are directors. Everyone knows money generates from viewers now, not the old traditional physical cassette/cd selling anymore. People stream online, it's all about the clicks. After TJOF 2015, it's a little funny bc ZLY was actually not a new young actress but a person in the same age group but she found success much later than them because the competition to become famous in early 2000s is super cut throat hard! Only the best of the best make it back then. Some people don't know Chinese Paladin is also a Xianxia, because it was directed so much more seriously like a Wuxia. TJOF was the first Xianxia to rely on CGI more than usual, it's not the first Xianxia, it's only the first one to go extreme with CGI. It's also the first to disregard all the rules about what makes a script professional. Despite all the loopholes in the story, they market ZLY to the top and invented a new marketing technique that relies on public voices. The public says ZLY outperformed Wallace Huo, there she goes, becomes an A-lister overnight. Her fees suddenly surpassed all the seniors, this caused some disputes and everyone started raising their fees higher than hers to make it fair, after they raised theirs, she once again raised hers again to not fall behind from their level/status. She wants to be equal to them. Most budget goes into the actors pockets, starved the industry, until the government had to do a clean up recently. Since 2015, Cdramas have become so disastrous, not only directors being incompetent, actors also run into marketing wars. ZLY was able to get nominated for Bai Yulan due to TJOF, but after that, she no longer allow Xianxia for nominations again. Xianxia then gets labeled as "get famous fast" and "idol" roles and "non-serious" shows. Not qualifiable for prestigious awards like Bai Yulan again. Yang Mi and Yang Zi do not get draw into these prestigious recognitions for their dedications in TMOPB or AOL that came out later than TJOF. The Golden Eagle show's reputation was also ruined overnight because they didn't want YZ and DLRB to become new threats, they purposely threw ALL awards on DLRB to make it look bad on her when Golden Eagle distributes numerous awards and could have divided them between her and YZ, but they purposedly left YZ out to kill 2 birds with 1 stone. All the more, newer people like Esther Yu and Bai Lu will not see any recognition if they only got famous from a Xianxia, no matter how serious they shot the Xianxia, they will only be classified as some sort of lower tier stuff. It's really unfair. Even though Zhao Lusi got things like The Long Ballad and Love like Galaxy under her belt, they should be considered as those "serious" shows that are non Xianxia, she's still not qualify cause ZLY spent 5 years in support roles and others haven't suffer long enough like her to deserve what she has now. To get to the point, ZLY doesn't want anyone to replace her. Anyone new after the year 2015 all must start out as an "idol star" and there's no way skipping that stage, then to wash off that title, they must "suffer" many years first. I find those rules ridiculous. Just bc ZLY couldn't get famous at the same time as her age group, doesn't mean everyone new after 2015 need to do all those ridiculous things. Like I said, even if Stephen Chow focused on comedy, his stuff are some of the most serious stuff ever. How the hell is Xianxia suddenly non-serious after 2015 is just ridiculous. How can someone become an A-lister, her salary surpassed seniors, and get selected for prestigious awards in 2015 because of a Xianxia, and then right after that, they shut down Xianxia and no longer allow it well reputable? It's ridiculous, this is obviously eliminating new talents that will become a threat to someone's popularity. The data proves how much people love Xianxia, but the water armies speak more that they hate Xianxia, it doesn't make sense! And to be honest, ZLY broke her contract with her agent He Ru in a fit of anger when he declined her to play in TJOF. Breaking contract like that means you'll have to pay yourself out of the contract, rich girls like Esther Yu can't even afford to do anything like that, not a small fortune, I don't know how in the world ZLY got herself out of that mess when she claims to be a poor girl. Somehow, Beijing Hairun Film Co transferred her 1.4187 million shares in 2015 and she became 14th largest shareholder of that agency. At the same time, Nicky Wu also transferred his company to his wife LSS but gives 1% of the shares from Strawbear at a price of 100,000 yuan to actress Zhao Liying, such a low price transfer is almost equivalent to a free gift. She doesn't even take care of those agencies like a baby the way YM had to care after the ill-reputed Jaywalk studio everyone spits at. If ZLY is just a business partner as rumored, LSS should be ZLY's friend but they are not friends at all. ZLY is known to hate YM and LSS reconnects with YM and they made the friendship very public. I think it explains a lot. I don't think ZLY was any simple girl like everyone think when she starred TJOF. She is the first to rely completely on fans/public voices, fanwar culture became a thing since TJOF and they set all these standards according to how she wants to go up the ranks. I honestly don't like ZLY and her ways of marketing. About her being ignored by colleagues, it has always been like that because they didn't like how she drags down the industry. Recently she markets that YM makes others hate her, but even before that Weibo night she sat with YM, people in the industry have always avoided her. They're afraid of her so they wouldn't dare be rude, but people were always not interested being too close with her bc whoever does will go on hot search and they rather have a peaceful life. First, actors should not follow the stupid standards set by ZLY's water army and second, I want to bring back appreciation to Xianxia and recognize the hard work put into that type of art.
I was one of them but I am not from China so I know no better. Just didn't think she was that popular compared…
I think popularity is not the most important and it's not really that measurable either. Pretend if Bai Lu walks in any random street of China unmasked, chances of people recognizing she's Bai Lu is definitely 80-90%. To me, popularity is pretty much just like that, wherever you go people know you and even remember your name. In terms of popularity, I think that's all celeb care bc it's not only popularity that they care about, as long as people know them that's enough, they're also interested in recognitions such as awards, status/reputation, and gaining more opportunities. About who has more followers, IDK cause people can cheat that if they want. So I don't think she is any less popular than more seniored actresses. In terms of status as an actress, I say she's an A-lister but people these days are making up all these rules nobody can have such status unless this and that... not until they played leading roles 5-6 more times and the roles need to be all this and that... If there are lots of people online saying someone cannot be an A-lister then that does prevent them from acheiving recognitions and gaining other opportunities like advertisements and being fashion representatives. That's why there are people hiring fans to like them online, I can kind of have sympathy for those people, but I hate it when they take it to the next level and start slandering colleagues. Nobody wants to become famous, but only famous for a bad reputation. Slandering another colleague means colleagues will ignore you. I like that Bai Lu can be herself, she can be blunt, and colleagues like her bc she's only playful but not rude and unthoughtful.
I am quite surprised to see some people here think Bailu isn't popular. Or as big as other idol turned actresses.…
Not sure if it's pertain to my comment, if it is, read carefully, I wasn't makng comparisons. Bai Lu's comments about her character was a very old thing, it wasn't a problem back then. Until TTEOM, ZLY's antis were jealous of BL's success and complain massively to force Bai Lu into apologizing. I made my stances clear on how I came to believe it's her team and evidence even linked. There's also a fight between an award. Years ago when Wu Lei was a child and won the same award as Hu Ge, they both got awarded for NIF, nobody is complaining about age group. Recognition and popularity shouldn't be judged by sex, age, and race. The "Idol" vs "Serious/True actors" thing was made up by ZLY. Before ZLY enters the industry, whether you want to have a place in bubbly roles or serious roles, you will have a career. ZLY has a long journey of years struggling to transform into a role that doesn't really match her, the "serious" character. That's due to her looking young and innocent, and her real personality is like someone who is unconfident, afraid, and undecisive. A biggest reason why Sun Li, Jiang Xin, Yin Tao, etc. are able to play such serious characters is because their true personalities have this very aggressive and determining nature. They are leaders in real life, so it isn't hard for them to play serious roles. However, it's also harder for them to play those very cutesy roles too because they have that "smarty" face on them, when someone looks too smart but need to act dumb, often time it's a pain in the as*. It's the same with why ZLY struggles, she lacks the physical form for serious characters, to put it bluntly, she lacks a smart face. However, with deep understanding it's still possible to achieve the role. It's like this, it's always easier for young looking people to act old/mature bc there are methods to look old, however it's harder for old looking people to act young bc the methods to look younger don't really work that well, not even with AI. So ZLY is lucky, looking young is a lucky thing. However, ZLY also lack understanding of acting, so it's much harder for her. To ZLY, the importance is only in the "leading" role. When she was rumored to play 2nd lead for Sun Li, she declined it and see it as a way of bullying her without looking at what the role is. For a character to be serious in her sense, they just need to look ugly with no filters on, then it means they're serious. No... yes, when serious actresses like Sun Li and Liu Tao play their serious roles, they tend to put on light/natural make up but it doesn't mean being serious is to look ugly. And then, ZLY's biggest reliant is also on marketing, when her articles praise her, all they praise her is about how she looks ugly for her so call serious roles in Wild Bloom. π³ Well... that's not acting. And just bc your articles say you're good at acting doesn't make you good at acting either. And badmouthing other competitors doesn't make you shine more either.
Until ZLY has this massive campaign about trying super hard every year to become "serious" while others aren't trying at all, that's when this "bubbly" vs "serious" thing came about. Soon, other actresses started having very bad reputations, especially if they star in bubblier roles. Since then, any actress not playing as an agressive or vengeful woman willing to do anything to survive or acheive her goal, will get label as bad actress. Well, NOT ALL characters need to have those qualities! Also, not all scripts will make their characters sacrifice to a certain degree, different stories, different things! Got nothing to do with actors not being serious if the story is just not your taste. Years ago, people like Zhang Ting always play very bubbly roles. Never ever does anyone call her an idol who isn't a "serious" or a "true" actress. Many actresses back then can have their own area of expertise proudly, without netz saying they need to act as "everything" to prove they can act. Honestly, it's not possible for anyone to act as "everything". The truth about all these "serious" actresses like Sun Li and Liu Tao, it's not always the case about who can act better, it's also about playing what they can/should play. There's no such thing as a bad character, only bad actresses. What I mean by "bad" is also not only about bad acting either, but people who can't understand that every character matters, they all exist for reasons. Awards should never be limited to only the "serious" characters", and it used to never be that way. If an award is only going to select serious characters then be sure to title the award "the serious characters" award. Just bc Stephen Chow focus on comedy, doesn't mean his works aren't serious, compare any random work of his to 60 episodes of Story of Minglan, Stephen Chow alone slaps everyone in the face. Maybe in terms of having as much fans as others, Bai Lu lack it. But should recognition/status/popularity rely on those type of data? Who has the most followers on WB? If that's the case, that's too easy, WB prohibited fake accounts but water army is still such a common practice, especially for those favored by the government. I don't agree we should judge anyone's credibility based on age, race, sex, and choice of genres. Sure, people like ZLY played in so call "serious" roles, but for someone to use "doubles" just for something simple like walking and cross the street when it's also a contemporary(xingfu) drama, I don't know how serious that is. π€· Do more, market less. I vote that Bai Lu deserves more recognition, because of her talent, understanding, knowledge, and hard work in her characters. Not because of bias such as being in the industry longer, being older, being rich or poor, looking pretty or ugly, etc. To me, it's all about the talent, understanding, and dedication to work. Ethis and values matter too, I disdain those who media attack others maliciously.
π€ I love it, I do! I swear, they're always a step ahead of others. Very cunning!
ZLY always has issues, just recently Yang Zi looks stunning in a green dress and ZLY didn't look good in her green dress. Her fans started doing ugly stuff to YZ. It's not even the same dress, just the same color for gawd's sake. And I was laughing to death cause, my gawd it doesn't even show YZ face! It only showed her great figure, her face was covered with hair! πππππ AND they're still so jealous of YZ, must be afraid of losing fashion opportunities to her. Just like how they hate ABB and DLRB, always cursing the 2 hawt ladies to quit acting cause they can't act and stick with fashion.
I honestly dislike ZLY bc she markets unlike anyone else. Sina (owns weibo), Sohu, 163, Inf, etc. are unreliable sources but they are still substantial rumors, and often lead to official news. Besides, all the international news we get came from those sources too BTW. So they matter! Whether anyone uses Jaynestars, Dramapanda, Dramapotatoe, Koalasplayground, 8days, Marcus Sim, AvenueX, etc. WELL! Good luck, cause their sources came from that list. So how do you say they're unreliable? They're unreliable, but turn into real news. That's how dangerous it is.
If some people ask, how come ABB's acting is only like everyone else, so similar to ZLY but everyone says she can't act and only ZLY can act? Cause of those sources, they deliver as many as 15 news on average per week saying she can't act, relies on men (William Chan, Huang Xiaoming), relies on looks, did plastic surgery, etc.
How did YM lose her acting reputation over the year as well? Same sources, as many as 25 news on average per week comparing her with ZLY, praising ZLY of natural-beauty&kindness and debunking YM.
Everyone has nasty fans, but when fans attack, they do it on forums. ZLY markets directly on reputatable news pipelines. LMAO!
People say Zhao Lusi is a greentea and marketer. However, here's the catch. If you're a ZLS fan, then you search her up. If you're not her fan, then simple, simply don't search her up and go do your own things. If you search her up, there are some possibilities you might find her news annoying on things like Sohu and Sina, if you think she doesn't deserve to be praised. But her news doesn't bad mouth anyone else, maybe they just tend to praise her a bit. I don't know how that's a green tea marketer, but she's gaining such a reputation when I find her news just similar to everyone else's. Zhao Lusi is Zhao Lusi, her news, should be about herself, not others. I really don't find any fault with her news. However, she's just a green tea if the media says it, nothing she can do about it unless she bribes the media.
However, if you search up ZLY, her news is never about herself but others, and super deem on attacking others. If you're not a fan and you don't search up ZLY, you search up people you like i.e. Yang Mi, Yang Zi, Zhao Lusi, Bai Lu, etc. then you see them being associated with ZLY and all of them got debunked while ZLY got praised. You started noticing that hey... what the hell is going on? Everyone being under attacked and it's by the same person, ZLY? And surprisingly, all the trusted international bloggers/Youtubers have this exact same taste. - They all like ZLY - They all hate YM - They all like Nirvana in Fire (Daylight Entertainment) - They all like Legend of Zhenhuan (Director Zheng Xiaolong). After Daylight Ent. earns a strong foothold in China and abroad, and Zheng Xiaolong earns a reputation in China and abroad as well, then ZLY works with Daylight Ent first then work with Zheng Xiaolong next. Just being honest here, it doesn't feel coincidental at all. For ALL bloggers and Youtubers to have the same and exact taste, it's really coincidental. Then, their fave who doesn't have any special skills, no she cannot act better than everyone else like hyped, earns her next level of reputation through the agency and director content makers groomed and hyped. OFC there was this one ridiculous time when a rumor says YM will work with Daylight Ent. and then a swarm of army claiming to be YM's fans got hired to go protest on the street. VERY BE-LEAVE-ABLE. Yeah, that's totally un-sketchy. We all know after Jackie Chan's generation and a few people younger than him, there will no longer be anymore mainland Chinese that can make it international. ZLY's choice of friending LBB is likely due to wanting international resources like LBB. Maybe that's why we have bloggers paving a path for her. I know the government will give ZLY the special permission to become international, but I didn't think she need to market so spitefully.
doesn't she own the company? I thought she was the CEO upon reading some comments a few years ago
It is so common for artists to have shareholdings of companies! The media just hate her. The only difference between her and other artists is, she's a profesional, that's all. She takes responsibilities and leadership roles, others don't, they choose to look after themselves. I say, she really paves a way for women to become leaders. She went through so much cyberbullying and hate, but maybe the next generation walking her foot steps will receive it less (hopefully). Seeing that there are still more hate than admiration, I'm not very skeptical. Rumors say she is the CEO, she casts people, she has bad tastes and casts same dumb crew over and over, or is bias and picks her young lovers and overlook newer members, etc. No matter how badly the media and antis are, she never mistreats her agency and crew just because the media gives them a bad name. She did all that when she is actually only a small shareholder, not CEO. That is one loyal dog. People always talk as if it's easy for artists to buy themselves out of their contracts, hell... it's expensive to death. Maybe it's easy for those with sugardaddies? It's also expensive to invest as a shareholder, unless you have sugardaddies to give you free money to invest then you wouldn't bother nurturing the agency? But if you're an independent woman like YM, you used your own money into this thing then you wouldn't allow it to crumble and lose profit. She cared after her agency like a good employee caring after the company when they're not the owner, cause if you're smart you should know if the company falls then you're also out of job. One can say she has very good work ethics. She has the ability to pay the media to speak nicely of her agency as well, but her star power is enough that even if the media trashes them, they still make money, so why waste money on those fake media? The media only hates her cause she wouldn't pay them a penny! Some artists like ZLY bribes the media decently. YM gives them nothing so they call her out as a stingy woman. Those who pays the media to speak nicely of their agencies, productions, artists, are only losing money and slaving for the media, their stuff are equally crappy (or even crappier), and sometimes they don't even make much money because they don't have true star power. They don't make much money, and they still have to lose a whole lot more to the media and marketing. They don't have real fans, and people don't like their productions like how they lie online, they have to lie forever, it's sad! Although JW was never that good, it wasn't shameless to play evil marketing either. It's their loss to lose YM, there won't be another YM. She worked hard enough that she can leave the company nonchalantly. They know they owe it to her.
LoL some rival fandoms came to make fun of Yang Mi today about her second billing in "Ha er bin 1944". In the…
Take that haters! That's totally a slap in the face to some people! YM haters are either paid antis, or stupidly blind people. She is accused of being stingy and greedy for money. How long is she in this industry? SINCE FOREVER! Some artists, after 1 hit, they refuse to step down from playing support roles and getting 2nd bill and below. YM is willing to cameo and play support roles many times already. And, she doesn't care about top billing either. She is the most humble and best leader. This is why she earns respect from colleagues from top down, whether they are seniors or juniors. Yes, the media hates her very much and say ugly stuff about her all the time, but are those things the truth? Only yes if anyone is stupidly blind, or like I said earlier, purposedly paid to talk shit. What the media says, and what a person does in action, are 2 different things. So the media says very kind things about some actresses and that make them angels when they actually do very dirty things behind others back? Always look at the person's actions, people! Celebrities know best how the entertainment circle work. If all celebrities like YM despite the media attacking her, that means she's true gold. If all celebrities hate somebody but the media only has nice things to say about her, that means she's a fake and colleagues know it best, better than outsiders, that's why they avoided her to stay out trouble. Whenever YM speaks, she uses her own voice, her own words. She doesn't hire news editors to put words in for her. She doesn't act silence on people either, or use fans to bark. This is why she is true gold. This billing war really need to stop. Actors aren't suppose to reveal or even talk about it. It became a thing where competitors hire others to dig the information to make whoever didn't get top bill lose face, especially when they are more experienced or playing the lead role. Glad YM is taking lead to stop this inhumaness. Haters will find all excuses. They say YM can do this cause she's powerful, others don't have this power so they can only stay quiet. Funny how she's so powerful but she doesn't have any power to control the media. Maybe she can, she can make the media brag about her, but she chose not to, she chose to use her power to do good things! The right things! Those with real power and they can control the media, do we ever see them speaking up to help anyone else other than their own self? Nope! Funny how some people always brag how senior they are but never ever show any good leadership, and they are the ones hiring antis against YM everyday. YM is a senior, although the media refuses to acknowledge it, but YM plays a good leader no matter how others attack her. After this many years of being cyber bullied, she never gave in and use evil marketing, she always relies on her voice.
π Goodness christ, I didn't write those hateful newsletter, just go ask who's hiring them. Always spreading lies and gossips about anybody who's trending. It's so obvious who's behind all the mess, always the same person. If I don't explain, people are gonna go to Yang Zi's page and say she's jealous of Bai Lu's success, or, people will think Bai Lu is the problematic one since she has beef with everyone, but thing is the tabloids are all made up things from that somebody. Why the hell complain about gossips if you do not dare to acknowledge who keeps hiring these gossips to spread? I don't see nobody else markets the way ZLY does, nothing against her, but her team needs to stop this none sense and over obssession of becoming world's number 1 actress. If she has any competency, do it ethically and without dragging others down!!!
Probably because everyone is upset about the ending lol It happened with IS tooβ rating was good, ending happened…
IDK how the hell they made it to the ending already, when they hate this show. While those who love this show don't even have a chance to watch it yet cause they still stuck at work now.
Those who are complaining about the ending due the weird rule of censorship in China they had to cut 50 episodes…
Like... just how many Xianxia before this show didn't have similar ending? It's not even a thing to complain about anymore, if not this then that, haters will always come up with something.
If anyone loves the Dunhuang murals fairy styling, I really recommend the famous dance drama Silk Road Flower Rain <<δΈθ·―θ±ι¨>> AKA "Along the Silk Road" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bniJVoULD0
I watched this master piece of work ages ago. Bai Lu's goddess air is very similar, I feel that she understands the expectations very well from those who love Silk Road Flower Rain.
It's a dance drama so no words spoken, no need to understand Chinese language or get Eng sub. It started with two fairies dancing in the sky and throwing flowers. Then the story began. One day, a young girl (Yingniang) and her father saved a Persian merchant in the desert. Then she got kidnapped into a dancing troop. After many years, she was forced to perform on the street and was publicly abused. She met her father again and they reunited through the help of the Persian merchant they saved. Her father was tasked to paint in the Mogao cave, he doesn't know what to paint for the center peice. Seeing Yingniang dance with the pipa so attractively, he painted her with the pipa. Happiness didn't last long, a tyrant wanted to force a marriage with Yingniang, so she escaped to Persia with the merchant. The tyrant imprisoned her father in the Mogao cave. Years later, she returned to China and her father was murdered by the tyrant and robbers along the silk road. Yingniang and the merchant disguised as dancers to expose the tyrant's injustice. She danced with a long silk explaining the story. The king punished the evil doers.
I don't know if it's because Yingniang is the first dancer I saw with a pipa so it's why she's my favorite, everytime I compare another dancer with a pipa they are never as good as Yingniang in my eyes. The silk dance at the end is my favorite, beautifully done. I bet if there is another dance drama again Luo Yunxi can totally slew it. π
I hope the grade doesn't drop because of the ending.
I don't think it was a bad ending, at least it wasn't a blood spitting one. Well only LSS did spat some blood earlier and then when she turned into her goddess form, it's nothing but all beauty, calmness, wisdom. etc. LOVE Bai Lu in her goddess form, no one can nail it any better. In the other Xianxias... one of the lovers usually ends up dying during misunderstandings, their mess are still not clean up but since one is dead all is forgiven... The scenes after LSS fell from the tower is the good example, most Xianxia would ended there like that. But in this ending, they understood the fate and accepted it, it's bittersweet.
At that time, Li Xian ignored her bc she was married.
Now she's divorced, they put her next to Li Xian again during Harper's BAZAAR.
Pretty sure Li Xian knew about her evil marketing, he was there the whole time he knew what happened and it was nothing like how the media said about him and YM.
She's divorced now and he still completely ignores her. π
So funny when he turned body towards Victoria Song and started conversations with her, ZLY rolled her eyes at them and then suddenly got afraid if she was being recorded, she started searching everywhere if there were cameras around. Lei Jiayin next to her others side was even more hilarious. He was just praying to god "Don't market attack me, PLZ don't market attack me" and BAM, they market attack him cause he woudn't speak to her. If he spoke or look at her he'll offend somebody big, if he doesn't he'll still offend her. He completely froze his attention HARD to the front and the boring stage, even when they announced her name as winner he did not even change his body language to congrats her right next to him. He was soooooooooo afraid of offending her you can tell he yelled out "Great!" and clapped for her, but still completely glued to the front and wouldn't interact with her a tiny bit.
If you look at Jing Tian, who is often accused of having "powerful backer" from the government, it happened many many times:
https://www.jaynestars.com/news/jing-tian-avoids-being-blacklisted-due-to-powerful-backer/
It makes me wonder, how smooth is the career path for women with these back up?
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202205/1266755.shtml
"Jing Tian has been in Hollywood blockbusters such as The Great Wall with Matt Damon and Kong: Skull Island. Chinese actress Jing Tian was slapped with a million-dollar fine for breaching the nation's advertising law by touting candies as a weight-loss drug."
She is banned from advertisement until 3 years, happened a year after her success in Rattan.
Hm... Doesn't look very smooth to me...
Doesn't seems to be very favored by the government... This is what people call the most hated actress cause of her back ups? IDK...
After thinking through, I think it isn't true that Jing Tian has powerful backer but bc she made it to Hollywood, which is what ZLY wants the most, so Jing Tian got defamed being a woman who slept her way up.
If you compare Jing Tian with ZLY, ZLY is very serious about her "no backup" branding. It's been 2 decades, Sohu still have to convince everyone for sure she has no backup.
After JT got fined, netz also questioned the government how come ZLY didn't get fined too.
JT got fined because she advertised a product without enough scientific research behind the "weight loss" claim, but it was only her first time.
ZLY, on the other hand, advertises bird nests since forever, and her claims are way more ridiculous. She claims to eat a package per day and the health benefits are "eternal youth, longevity, weight loss, energetic, skin brightening, maternal recovery, etc" All of those are also none scientifically proven, and today, she's still advertising them.
Another association ZLY has with the government is the false donation news.
She is quite known for admiring Hu Ge.
He was the first to won an Ambassador award for his hometown.
ZLY decided she also wants an Ambassador award for her hometown in Hebei, and one was created for her as wished. Around the same time when she became an Ambassador, the road in her hometown was also coincidentally fixed.
The villagers made the assumptions that ZLY built the road because she was Ambassador around the same time, also cause that's what everyone said online. But the villagers were a little disappointed that ZLY is very rich, how come she only swept the road?
LMAO! Who can't agree? I mean, LOOK AT THE PHOTOS...
Before the construction:
https://p1-tt.byteimg.com/origin/tos-cn-i-qvj2lq49k0/06641ea3443646f7bb4496abbf6ae397.jpg
After the construction:
https://p1-tt.byteimg.com/origin/tos-cn-i-qvj2lq49k0/c68aaa56cbcc4c529ac31c5afcef7345.jpg
LMAO!
The interview with a villager:
Interviewer: "Who built the road?"
Villager: "ZLY did. Everyone said it's her"
Interviewer: "What did you think about the road?"
Villager: "The road was fixed, yes, but it was only a little bit better than before, it's not that good."
LOL! Yes, the old guy (villager) is totally telling the truth, it wasn't really fixed at all. They only swept it a little, the potholes will form again.
ZLY's fans came to her defend, they cursed the villagers being "greedy" and "ungrateful" for almost 2 years. ZLY purposely acted like she didn't know and she's a quiet person so she didn't need to answer. After such a long time passed, she said to the public it wasn't her but she also spoke with a very innocent, non-serious laugh. It made the interviewer thought she built it, but wanted to remain humble so she's denying. So the interviewer kept asking again and again for her to be serious, and she still answered in laughters all the time. So, to this day, her fans are still saying, she fixed it.
The truth is, only the "higher authorities" can fix the road.
https://min.news/en/entertainment/9d41ffaf1e3b21ff0a6bce7b49977ac6.html
If ZLY fixed the road, what is her connection with "higher authorities"???
Still, another question, since she didn't fix the road, why isn't the "higher authorities" mad over her false marketing?
On Sohu, her news are still like this:
https://www.sohu.com/a/680528228_121311696
Under the expansion:
"After becoming famous, she still remembers her hometown and personally pays for road construction for her hometown."
Just look at that date, that was published just a few days ago!
Up to this day and year...
ZLY still has the audacity to keep saying she built the road. I don't know what to say anymore.
Usually, whether an actor is lying intentionally or UN-intentionally, they MUST explain on matters like this ASAP.
I don't know what type of special power is behind ZLY but it seems very powerful.
As an Ambassador, this is very shameless. She can never wait to see whenever her colleagues have a bad news and will make comparisons of herself with them, like when YM had the donation scandal, her news will say YM is immoral to indulge in fraudulent donations while ZLY is a heart of gold. YM's scandal was embarassing, yes, but that was at least bc they contracted a "scammer" that lied to them, that's why they never knew the recipient never received anything bc they were told by the person they hired everything went well. Plus, the recipient never follow up either, that's why they thought everything must've been alright. After many years passed the recipient suddenly wanted to bring up trouble when they could've done it right there and then, I say they were high suspicious. Besides, YM didn't even brag day and night about the donation like ZLY. They were willing to go public and apologize. Unlike ZLY who is still "silent" today and bragging.
This is why colleagues dislike ZLY and avoid her, it's not because she came from the countryside. The truth is, Xie Na, Zhou Dongyu, Gong Li, Zhang Ziyi all came from the countryside. Urban people do not look down on rural people. Ni Ni didn't exactly come from the rural side but also didn't have acting background like ZLY. There are many actors like that, they didn't attend acting school, and they don't get hated for any of that. The problem with ZLY is nothing about her rural culture or lack of education. Problem is, she often advertises herself as someone who can act better than those who went to school. Her colleagues dislike her bc of conceitedness and victim playing.
She got into the industry by Feng Xiaogang in 2006. Feng Xiaogang is almost as famous as Zhang Yimou, and has good connections with the government. When he and several directors scouted new talents through the Yahoo Star Search, ZLY dated her ugly manager so he would pay the application fees, tickets, clothes, traveling, and other expenses. Although her performance was really bad, the sacrifice she made for a little competition like that was a lot. Yahoo competition was in 2006, within the same year, she already had an "Empress" role in "King of Nanyue Kingdom". She may appeared very shortly in it, but if you think about it, LOOK AT THE CAST!
Top notched actors:
Ray Lui
Ning Jing
Tang Guo Qiang - Most famous Zhuge Liang 1994
Such a big production like that takes a long time before it can air.
For the drama to air in 2006, and she also shot the scenes in the same year 2006, right after she just won the award in 2006, all that means...
FXG favored her very much and helped her ASAP. The production already worked on editing when they specially arranged for her to shoot scenes the very last minute.
Even people with schooling background (even the "rich" backgrounds like FSF at that time) cannot get such roles like that, plus special arrangements at the same time, during the competitve 2000s. If you look at what FSF gets to play in the early 2000s, it wasn't any much better, and he's that "rich" guy.
She was also given many advertisements to shoot, she even worked with big names like Zhou Xun and they had a photo together as evidence. But all that was not enough bc YM was already famous at that time as the "support" in ROCH. ZLY was still nowhere close to YM or LYF in 2006 although her opportunities were not exactly as bad as she made it sounds. So she complains a lot about how she had a hard journey... I will say for someone in the mid 2000s like that, it wasn't a hard journey considering even those with "backgrounds" still can't get what she got. YM worked her way up as well, she started out as supports only, and was even physically abused before by directors who wanted their women to play the role she had. Not everyone had it easy. Even someone as beautiful as Liu Yifei, had it not been because of the powerful connection, perhaps, she too also couldn't have been XLN no matter how talented. Mid 2000s were harsh years for everyone, but the qualities were undeniably excellent.
Since the internet is obviously pretty much controlled in China, and ZLY can get her hands on it, she's not very simple. During the time ZLY's fans fought with WYB's fans, his fans brought up all her scandals. That's why the government muted her because they needed excuses to clean that up and delete those comments about her. YM is famous for being protective of her child's face circulating online, although ZLY brags a lot about herself being even "more" protective, she was very worried during the time she got muted because netz brought up the speculation of who fathered her child, so she purposedly unmasked her child to the public to "hint" that he looks exactly like his father FSF. Somehow the government said she was supposed to be muted and lots of her fans accounts got banned, but lots of fake commenters still came to post on the photo "looks just like FSF". Very odd.
ZLY and Kris Wu were from the same broker and agency. For Kris being able to hid his criminal activities for that long, his connections isn't simple either.
In the past, it's actually possible for people to become A-listers for only 1 show. They did not have to star a million different roles to be considered versatile. There are some roles that make a character change/develop dramatically, they can prove versatile skills within a single show. Back then, after seeing a person lead, it doesn't mean they will always continue leading. They could be villains or even minor characters the next round continuously. Opportunity is opportunity, whatever role they get, just do them well. That's what it means to play different characters and be versatile back then.
In the early 2000s, not many people can afford computers yet. If they can, they might not be able to afford internet along with it and only use the computers to play the software games downloaded to their computers. I usually go to the library for internet. I used SPCNET back then, I noticed a bit fanwars sometimes, but they aren't huge. It's a helpful forum bc each casette/cd per episode can amount to a lot, you don't want to spend on anything crappy so it's good to read/share some spoilers/reviews online. I don't think forums and fans discussion affect anything during those days. Making profit depends on the quality of the work, they have to make people want to buy, not to click (easy) like right now. The standards back then are a lot more strict.
When Chinese Paladin hit in 2004, all the young actors were new. Paradise 2003 had many famous stars like Ada Choi, Yu Bo, Monica Chan, etc. but I didn't chose to rent that one. I only found out many years later that it was an ok show to watch, crappy CGI but still engaging. I chose to rent Chinese Paladin instead. Although the seniored actors at that time had very very strong foothold in the industry, the new actors in Chinese Paladin performed so well that they easily replaced seniored actors overnight. No wars. No jealousy things going on like, they're new, we're seniors, respect us, dadadadada....
The way things work back then is super different from now. Whoever is truly talented and creative wins, no hard feelings, as true artists passionate in the field, everyone wants to see amazing stuff produced. Not to see a bunch of crappy shits like right now.
Wallace Huo, Hu Ge, Liu Yifei, Yang Mi, Liu Shi Shi had experiences working with truly top notched and professional directors, I bet they have some knowledge about what makes great shows, but they just can't do anything these days cause they're not the producers and directors. Now, they're working with less competitive directors, it is just what it is. Not within their control. Antis will say stuff, label this actress and that actress super powerful and rich although they're actors only but they can still produce but they wouldn't dadadaaa... yeah right! Actors are actors and directors are directors. Everyone knows money generates from viewers now, not the old traditional physical cassette/cd selling anymore. People stream online, it's all about the clicks. After TJOF 2015, it's a little funny bc ZLY was actually not a new young actress but a person in the same age group but she found success much later than them because the competition to become famous in early 2000s is super cut throat hard! Only the best of the best make it back then. Some people don't know Chinese Paladin is also a Xianxia, because it was directed so much more seriously like a Wuxia. TJOF was the first Xianxia to rely on CGI more than usual, it's not the first Xianxia, it's only the first one to go extreme with CGI. It's also the first to disregard all the rules about what makes a script professional. Despite all the loopholes in the story, they market ZLY to the top and invented a new marketing technique that relies on public voices. The public says ZLY outperformed Wallace Huo, there she goes, becomes an A-lister overnight. Her fees suddenly surpassed all the seniors, this caused some disputes and everyone started raising their fees higher than hers to make it fair, after they raised theirs, she once again raised hers again to not fall behind from their level/status. She wants to be equal to them. Most budget goes into the actors pockets, starved the industry, until the government had to do a clean up recently. Since 2015, Cdramas have become so disastrous, not only directors being incompetent, actors also run into marketing wars. ZLY was able to get nominated for Bai Yulan due to TJOF, but after that, she no longer allow Xianxia for nominations again. Xianxia then gets labeled as "get famous fast" and "idol" roles and "non-serious" shows. Not qualifiable for prestigious awards like Bai Yulan again. Yang Mi and Yang Zi do not get draw into these prestigious recognitions for their dedications in TMOPB or AOL that came out later than TJOF. The Golden Eagle show's reputation was also ruined overnight because they didn't want YZ and DLRB to become new threats, they purposely threw ALL awards on DLRB to make it look bad on her when Golden Eagle distributes numerous awards and could have divided them between her and YZ, but they purposedly left YZ out to kill 2 birds with 1 stone. All the more, newer people like Esther Yu and Bai Lu will not see any recognition if they only got famous from a Xianxia, no matter how serious they shot the Xianxia, they will only be classified as some sort of lower tier stuff. It's really unfair. Even though Zhao Lusi got things like The Long Ballad and Love like Galaxy under her belt, they should be considered as those "serious" shows that are non Xianxia, she's still not qualify cause ZLY spent 5 years in support roles and others haven't suffer long enough like her to deserve what she has now. To get to the point, ZLY doesn't want anyone to replace her. Anyone new after the year 2015 all must start out as an "idol star" and there's no way skipping that stage, then to wash off that title, they must "suffer" many years first. I find those rules ridiculous. Just bc ZLY couldn't get famous at the same time as her age group, doesn't mean everyone new after 2015 need to do all those ridiculous things.
Like I said, even if Stephen Chow focused on comedy, his stuff are some of the most serious stuff ever. How the hell is Xianxia suddenly non-serious after 2015 is just ridiculous. How can someone become an A-lister, her salary surpassed seniors, and get selected for prestigious awards in 2015 because of a Xianxia, and then right after that, they shut down Xianxia and no longer allow it well reputable? It's ridiculous, this is obviously eliminating new talents that will become a threat to someone's popularity. The data proves how much people love Xianxia, but the water armies speak more that they hate Xianxia, it doesn't make sense! And to be honest, ZLY broke her contract with her agent He Ru in a fit of anger when he declined her to play in TJOF. Breaking contract like that means you'll have to pay yourself out of the contract, rich girls like Esther Yu can't even afford to do anything like that, not a small fortune, I don't know how in the world ZLY got herself out of that mess when she claims to be a poor girl. Somehow, Beijing Hairun Film Co transferred her 1.4187 million shares in 2015 and she became 14th largest shareholder of that agency. At the same time, Nicky Wu also transferred his company to his wife LSS but gives 1% of the shares from Strawbear at a price of 100,000 yuan to actress Zhao Liying, such a low price transfer is almost equivalent to a free gift. She doesn't even take care of those agencies like a baby the way YM had to care after the ill-reputed Jaywalk studio everyone spits at. If ZLY is just a business partner as rumored, LSS should be ZLY's friend but they are not friends at all. ZLY is known to hate YM and LSS reconnects with YM and they made the friendship very public. I think it explains a lot.
I don't think ZLY was any simple girl like everyone think when she starred TJOF. She is the first to rely completely on fans/public voices, fanwar culture became a thing since TJOF and they set all these standards according to how she wants to go up the ranks. I honestly don't like ZLY and her ways of marketing. About her being ignored by colleagues, it has always been like that because they didn't like how she drags down the industry. Recently she markets that YM makes others hate her, but even before that Weibo night she sat with YM, people in the industry have always avoided her. They're afraid of her so they wouldn't dare be rude, but people were always not interested being too close with her bc whoever does will go on hot search and they rather have a peaceful life. First, actors should not follow the stupid standards set by ZLY's water army and second, I want to bring back appreciation to Xianxia and recognize the hard work put into that type of art.
About who has more followers, IDK cause people can cheat that if they want. So I don't think she is any less popular than more seniored actresses.
In terms of status as an actress, I say she's an A-lister but people these days are making up all these rules nobody can have such status unless this and that... not until they played leading roles 5-6 more times and the roles need to be all this and that... If there are lots of people online saying someone cannot be an A-lister then that does prevent them from acheiving recognitions and gaining other opportunities like advertisements and being fashion representatives. That's why there are people hiring fans to like them online, I can kind of have sympathy for those people, but I hate it when they take it to the next level and start slandering colleagues. Nobody wants to become famous, but only famous for a bad reputation. Slandering another colleague means colleagues will ignore you.
I like that Bai Lu can be herself, she can be blunt, and colleagues like her bc she's only playful but not rude and unthoughtful.
Until ZLY has this massive campaign about trying super hard every year to become "serious" while others aren't trying at all, that's when this "bubbly" vs "serious" thing came about. Soon, other actresses started having very bad reputations, especially if they star in bubblier roles. Since then, any actress not playing as an agressive or vengeful woman willing to do anything to survive or acheive her goal, will get label as bad actress. Well, NOT ALL characters need to have those qualities! Also, not all scripts will make their characters sacrifice to a certain degree, different stories, different things! Got nothing to do with actors not being serious if the story is just not your taste. Years ago, people like Zhang Ting always play very bubbly roles. Never ever does anyone call her an idol who isn't a "serious" or a "true" actress. Many actresses back then can have their own area of expertise proudly, without netz saying they need to act as "everything" to prove they can act. Honestly, it's not possible for anyone to act as "everything". The truth about all these "serious" actresses like Sun Li and Liu Tao, it's not always the case about who can act better, it's also about playing what they can/should play. There's no such thing as a bad character, only bad actresses. What I mean by "bad" is also not only about bad acting either, but people who can't understand that every character matters, they all exist for reasons.
Awards should never be limited to only the "serious" characters", and it used to never be that way. If an award is only going to select serious characters then be sure to title the award "the serious characters" award. Just bc Stephen Chow focus on comedy, doesn't mean his works aren't serious, compare any random work of his to 60 episodes of Story of Minglan, Stephen Chow alone slaps everyone in the face.
Maybe in terms of having as much fans as others, Bai Lu lack it. But should recognition/status/popularity rely on those type of data? Who has the most followers on WB? If that's the case, that's too easy, WB prohibited fake accounts but water army is still such a common practice, especially for those favored by the government.
I don't agree we should judge anyone's credibility based on age, race, sex, and choice of genres. Sure, people like ZLY played in so call "serious" roles, but for someone to use "doubles" just for something simple like walking and cross the street when it's also a contemporary(xingfu) drama, I don't know how serious that is. π€· Do more, market less.
I vote that Bai Lu deserves more recognition, because of her talent, understanding, knowledge, and hard work in her characters. Not because of bias such as being in the industry longer, being older, being rich or poor, looking pretty or ugly, etc. To me, it's all about the talent, understanding, and dedication to work.
Ethis and values matter too, I disdain those who media attack others maliciously.
I honestly dislike ZLY bc she markets unlike anyone else.
Sina (owns weibo), Sohu, 163, Inf, etc. are unreliable sources but they are still substantial rumors, and often lead to official news.
Besides, all the international news we get came from those sources too BTW. So they matter!
Whether anyone uses Jaynestars, Dramapanda, Dramapotatoe, Koalasplayground, 8days, Marcus Sim, AvenueX, etc. WELL! Good luck, cause their sources came from that list. So how do you say they're unreliable? They're unreliable, but turn into real news. That's how dangerous it is.
If some people ask, how come ABB's acting is only like everyone else, so similar to ZLY but everyone says she can't act and only ZLY can act? Cause of those sources, they deliver as many as 15 news on average per week saying she can't act, relies on men (William Chan, Huang Xiaoming), relies on looks, did plastic surgery, etc.
How did YM lose her acting reputation over the year as well? Same sources, as many as 25 news on average per week comparing her with ZLY, praising ZLY of natural-beauty&kindness and debunking YM.
Everyone has nasty fans, but when fans attack, they do it on forums. ZLY markets directly on reputatable news pipelines. LMAO!
People say Zhao Lusi is a greentea and marketer. However, here's the catch. If you're a ZLS fan, then you search her up. If you're not her fan, then simple, simply don't search her up and go do your own things. If you search her up, there are some possibilities you might find her news annoying on things like Sohu and Sina, if you think she doesn't deserve to be praised. But her news doesn't bad mouth anyone else, maybe they just tend to praise her a bit. I don't know how that's a green tea marketer, but she's gaining such a reputation when I find her news just similar to everyone else's. Zhao Lusi is Zhao Lusi, her news, should be about herself, not others. I really don't find any fault with her news. However, she's just a green tea if the media says it, nothing she can do about it unless she bribes the media.
However, if you search up ZLY, her news is never about herself but others, and super deem on attacking others. If you're not a fan and you don't search up ZLY, you search up people you like i.e. Yang Mi, Yang Zi, Zhao Lusi, Bai Lu, etc. then you see them being associated with ZLY and all of them got debunked while ZLY got praised. You started noticing that hey... what the hell is going on? Everyone being under attacked and it's by the same person, ZLY?
And surprisingly, all the trusted international bloggers/Youtubers have this exact same taste.
- They all like ZLY
- They all hate YM
- They all like Nirvana in Fire (Daylight Entertainment)
- They all like Legend of Zhenhuan (Director Zheng Xiaolong).
After Daylight Ent. earns a strong foothold in China and abroad, and Zheng Xiaolong earns a reputation in China and abroad as well, then ZLY works with Daylight Ent first then work with Zheng Xiaolong next. Just being honest here, it doesn't feel coincidental at all. For ALL bloggers and Youtubers to have the same and exact taste, it's really coincidental. Then, their fave who doesn't have any special skills, no she cannot act better than everyone else like hyped, earns her next level of reputation through the agency and director content makers groomed and hyped. OFC there was this one ridiculous time when a rumor says YM will work with Daylight Ent. and then a swarm of army claiming to be YM's fans got hired to go protest on the street. VERY BE-LEAVE-ABLE. Yeah, that's totally un-sketchy. We all know after Jackie Chan's generation and a few people younger than him, there will no longer be anymore mainland Chinese that can make it international. ZLY's choice of friending LBB is likely due to wanting international resources like LBB. Maybe that's why we have bloggers paving a path for her. I know the government will give ZLY the special permission to become international, but I didn't think she need to market so spitefully.
People always talk as if it's easy for artists to buy themselves out of their contracts, hell... it's expensive to death. Maybe it's easy for those with sugardaddies? It's also expensive to invest as a shareholder, unless you have sugardaddies to give you free money to invest then you wouldn't bother nurturing the agency? But if you're an independent woman like YM, you used your own money into this thing then you wouldn't allow it to crumble and lose profit. She cared after her agency like a good employee caring after the company when they're not the owner, cause if you're smart you should know if the company falls then you're also out of job. One can say she has very good work ethics. She has the ability to pay the media to speak nicely of her agency as well, but her star power is enough that even if the media trashes them, they still make money, so why waste money on those fake media? The media only hates her cause she wouldn't pay them a penny! Some artists like ZLY bribes the media decently. YM gives them nothing so they call her out as a stingy woman. Those who pays the media to speak nicely of their agencies, productions, artists, are only losing money and slaving for the media, their stuff are equally crappy (or even crappier), and sometimes they don't even make much money because they don't have true star power. They don't make much money, and they still have to lose a whole lot more to the media and marketing. They don't have real fans, and people don't like their productions like how they lie online, they have to lie forever, it's sad!
Although JW was never that good, it wasn't shameless to play evil marketing either. It's their loss to lose YM, there won't be another YM. She worked hard enough that she can leave the company nonchalantly. They know they owe it to her.
She is accused of being stingy and greedy for money. How long is she in this industry? SINCE FOREVER! Some artists, after 1 hit, they refuse to step down from playing support roles and getting 2nd bill and below. YM is willing to cameo and play support roles many times already. And, she doesn't care about top billing either. She is the most humble and best leader. This is why she earns respect from colleagues from top down, whether they are seniors or juniors.
Yes, the media hates her very much and say ugly stuff about her all the time, but are those things the truth? Only yes if anyone is stupidly blind, or like I said earlier, purposedly paid to talk shit. What the media says, and what a person does in action, are 2 different things. So the media says very kind things about some actresses and that make them angels when they actually do very dirty things behind others back? Always look at the person's actions, people! Celebrities know best how the entertainment circle work. If all celebrities like YM despite the media attacking her, that means she's true gold. If all celebrities hate somebody but the media only has nice things to say about her, that means she's a fake and colleagues know it best, better than outsiders, that's why they avoided her to stay out trouble. Whenever YM speaks, she uses her own voice, her own words. She doesn't hire news editors to put words in for her. She doesn't act silence on people either, or use fans to bark. This is why she is true gold. This billing war really need to stop. Actors aren't suppose to reveal or even talk about it. It became a thing where competitors hire others to dig the information to make whoever didn't get top bill lose face, especially when they are more experienced or playing the lead role. Glad YM is taking lead to stop this inhumaness. Haters will find all excuses. They say YM can do this cause she's powerful, others don't have this power so they can only stay quiet. Funny how she's so powerful but she doesn't have any power to control the media. Maybe she can, she can make the media brag about her, but she chose not to, she chose to use her power to do good things! The right things! Those with real power and they can control the media, do we ever see them speaking up to help anyone else other than their own self? Nope! Funny how some people always brag how senior they are but never ever show any good leadership, and they are the ones hiring antis against YM everyday.
YM is a senior, although the media refuses to acknowledge it, but YM plays a good leader no matter how others attack her. After this many years of being cyber bullied, she never gave in and use evil marketing, she always relies on her voice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bniJVoULD0
I watched this master piece of work ages ago. Bai Lu's goddess air is very similar, I feel that she understands the expectations very well from those who love Silk Road Flower Rain.
It's a dance drama so no words spoken, no need to understand Chinese language or get Eng sub. It started with two fairies dancing in the sky and throwing flowers.
Then the story began. One day, a young girl (Yingniang) and her father saved a Persian merchant in the desert. Then she got kidnapped into a dancing troop. After many years, she was forced to perform on the street and was publicly abused. She met her father again and they reunited through the help of the Persian merchant they saved. Her father was tasked to paint in the Mogao cave, he doesn't know what to paint for the center peice. Seeing Yingniang dance with the pipa so attractively, he painted her with the pipa. Happiness didn't last long, a tyrant wanted to force a marriage with Yingniang, so she escaped to Persia with the merchant. The tyrant imprisoned her father in the Mogao cave. Years later, she returned to China and her father was murdered by the tyrant and robbers along the silk road. Yingniang and the merchant disguised as dancers to expose the tyrant's injustice. She danced with a long silk explaining the story. The king punished the evil doers.
I don't know if it's because Yingniang is the first dancer I saw with a pipa so it's why she's my favorite, everytime I compare another dancer with a pipa they are never as good as Yingniang in my eyes. The silk dance at the end is my favorite, beautifully done.
I bet if there is another dance drama again Luo Yunxi can totally slew it. π
In the other Xianxias... one of the lovers usually ends up dying during misunderstandings, their mess are still not clean up but since one is dead all is forgiven... The scenes after LSS fell from the tower is the good example, most Xianxia would ended there like that. But in this ending, they understood the fate and accepted it, it's bittersweet.