Noelle

Why are you circling around? Twitter is international platform. I'm asking you to give me the evidence on Chinese platform! How does China not have this news, and international people have this news? This is exactly where I was saying, these Chinese stars don't care about us international fans. The one and only Chinese star that is seeking international stardom is ZLY alone.

This is not the first time ZLY done it.
https://www.jaynestars.com/news/cecilia-liu-experiencing-postpartum-depression/
Back then, when ZLY lost face due to giving birth without a wedding, news also lied that Liu Shi Shi had postpartum depression. It didn't even need to spread internationally, but it did all over international platforms.
While in China, nobody even trust it, everyone believes it internationally. Stupid!

Can you prove China has those evidence? Can you answer why does International fans have those evidence, but they are not evidence in China?

Fan or not, it doesn't change the fact JJY fake fans here stir a war slandering ZHHZ on something untrue. News that aren't even confirm in China, yet they are already confirmed oversea? This is why ZLY is the suspect, because she cares about international stardom. Only she has international fireflies spying for her. All other artists do not seek anything internationally, the reason is C-gov. hates it. ZLY not openly showed interest in international fame, she doesn't fear the government as shown in many of her propaganda projects. When other stars work on proganda stuff, they have to make C-gov look good. ZLY always make them look corrupted and horrible while she is the only righteous hero, had it been other stars, they would be heavily reprimanded or even blacklisted by now.

You can buy it, but people will find out. Rich as hell people like celebrities, they have all the resources you know nothing about to find out who bought what on who.

ZLY is the only person that embarassingly gets left out at each and every party by everybody. They pretend to speak highly of her when asked on interviews, but they avoid her like the plague like they're very disgusted of her.

She gets paid?????? I want to get paid too.
I can lie about being blind and cannot see how others can act. I can pretend to like ZLY's horrible acting skills.

But I can't slander women's reputation. Looks like I won't be a good employee for ZLY.
Is it even safe to do that? Lie about women sleeping with men? ZLY better guarantee me super good protection if I get caught. I don't know how she gets away from slandering women that far, but it's been a few years already and she's still safe. I think ZLY does give her fireflies very good protection, Sandcursa will be around for quite a while.

Um... A perfect example of an actress who speaks harshly and non eloquently would be Ning Jing! Not ZLY.
Ning Jing's voice is even coarse, she isn't afraid of showing anger. There was a time she argued with a guy on variety show and he got got so angry. It was so scary, if it was me I would shush already. Ning Jing was not afraid at all and didn't even back down from speaking.
When Ning Jing participated in that one show Zheng Shuang took the group to tour and Yang Yang got lost, Ning Jing also argued with Zheng Shuang and she was afraid of Ning Jing.
Ning Jing once called ZLY "Pretentious". She is nothing like Ning Jing.
Ning Jing is straighforward and honest. She can be offensive but stands up for justice. Ning Jing does not get praise enough for it.

The things ZLY say are always very demeaning and degrading to others so that it will make her stand out. They are always unjust words. For example, lying that EVERYONE slept their way up or had a background, but she is different because she had no background and didn't sleep her way up but only relied on her own self. Another example, lying that only people with sharp chin can become famous, she is different because she has a round face. It's very offensive with those with round faces, Joe Chen has a round face and got famous before ZLY, and ZLY even played a supporting role for Joe before. I don't get what's all the fuss about praising ZLY so hard, when the things she said are ill-manner, insulting, and underbred. Sounds like a very spoiled brat. Do you fans even know that ZLY has no cooking skill at all? Was it Legend of Fei or Legend of Shen Li, she doesn't even know how to fold dumplings. IDK why her dumplings trended all over social media. I was confused as hell cause I never saw such ugly dumplings in my life before, and everyone praise her for it. Very bratty old lady.

Shen Li trailers only had ZLY and LGX, we don't even see all the other characters, I bet they have little to no scenes.

I bet ZLY is afraid, that's why there is evil marketing around Liu Yu Ning that he likes to steal screentime.
During A Journey To Love, massive of crazy people pretended to say the drama supposed to showcase Liu Shi Shi 99% of the time, all the other characters only need to share the remaining 1% screentime. I can totally tell who those idiots are.
When Shen Li comes out, if ZLY conquers 99% of screentime, we shall know if this theory is only a guess or not.

The least humble post 85 actress goes to ZLY, I feel that she did not attend because she hates watching others steal the stage she thinks belong to her. Hilarious how she got no work in 2019 but she kept grabbing all the big awards, the hard working people didn't get anything. I believe she got nothing in 2023. Yang Mi also happen to have nothing going on 2023, but Yang Mi isn't shameless to grab big awards when she didn't have work, I bet ZLY wanted awards badly but afraid of being compared with how YM is so humble.

YM is a fair person, this is finally the first time the girls from newer generation like Zhao Lusi and Bai Lu finally got their recognitions, YM and allt he 85s attended to show respect. Although Dilraba and Liu Shi Shi had works in 2023, I didn't feel like they try to grap any attention at all, I think they were being nice and giving the new girls a leeway. Bet everyone was happy the toxic person ZLY was gone that night. Her idiotic photos are nothing, she can keep crying, and should cry harder.

That is great news. So YM was rumored since 2016? Isn't funny how ZLY lied that she was chosen but YM stole the role from her? I couldn't even find anything on the news saying YM was rumored since 2016 cause the information got manipulated too much. I knew Lei Jiayin dislikes ZLY when they sat together she wanted his attention but he avoided her and even accidentally stepped on her dress on stage, but he didn't notice because he wouldn't look at her one bit.

😂 Whoever wrote that is totally hired by ZLY, they talk so cheap of Liu Yifei, Yang Mi, and Liu Shi Shi. They only brought up ZLY's embarassing 30 doubles to convince everyone "it's ok" bc that's ZLY, but it''s not ok for the rest of the other professionals. Is that the new website she migrated to now? She used to hire Sohu the most. Funny how Sohu now turns to Chen Duling and compares her against every actress saying she is prettier to instigate wars. Then the ZLY international fans rushed to gossip how Chen Duling is being shameless on Sohu, while ZLY totally vanished and abandoned Sohu at the same time. I also saw Jaynestars attempted a Chen Duling comparison against Yang Mi strategy.
If they are so ready to push all the blame over to Chen Duling, how come they only help her boast about beauty but nothing else? Cummon, help her boast about being the "better actress" too. It looks like ZLY cannot bear to give away that description. She wants someone else to sleep in her coffin but pay them in pennies, I'm afraid it won't work.

I see now. She pretends to curse ZLY so we won't think she's ZLY's fan. Pretends to be DLRB's fan, hoping we stir a war between YM and DLRB.
Pretends to curse ZLY and then next thing, tells us to "go watch ZLY works and see the difference" uhuh... yeah ZLY dramas don't even have any closure so idk how the hell they're "master pieces". LMAO, no offense, but that's just the truth. Anyways...
And the whole macho YM pleasing juniors to stay relevant thing, omg... AN CHUXIA! Lucid007 and Looktothestars other accounts. How many accounts does ZLY pays?
Other actresses should be aware of ZLY too, not just YM. I noticed ZLY finally put an end to her malicious news at last. However, they're pushing all the blame over to Chen Duling. On official news, they wrote several articles of Chen Duling recently, they purposely compare Chen Duling with Yang Mi and several other senior actresses and say that Chen Duling is prettier than everyone. AFTER they done that, they quickly market that Chen Duling is attacking each and everyone so watchout for her. Really????????? What a shrewd marketer, so quick to shift the blame. After ZLY used up her knife, she stabbed and stabbed and stabbed others, everyone found out and denounce her, she knew she can no longer use the knife so she hid the knife in someone else's hands and quickly tell people to come watch who's holding the knife. WTF! A thief, crying out that others are the thief! If ZLY doesn't want to own up her mistakes for marketing so cruelly, it's too late now, but she can just end it quietly. Why keep finding people to blame to no end?

Thanks for your concern but YM is already moving to older roles, your accusations is too exaggerating. If YM brags about seniority, why don't you look at the contents above, and look at which year YM already blasted off her career and which year ZLY blasted off her career? Yes YM and ZLY are old and the same age, but YM already got famous in 2005, ZLY only got famous in 2015, if YM cares about seniority then when the junior ZLY bullies her for 10+ years, why does she never project her seniority entitlement to protect herself? Had she said just a sentence about her being a senior, ZLY would have nothing else to say. She lets ZLY fans step all over her bc she doesn't care about seniority. Only ZLY brags about how senior herself is, if you don't believe it you can go read all discussion boards about what happened to Wang Yibo. I haven't hear about ZLY being a good senior to anyone. Without YM helping several people, they wouldn't get anywhere today. Dilireba is a younger one, YM helped her get resources. Donghua Dijun is old, YM helped him too, he was unconfident and she encouraged him. As a leader, she isn't discrimating of age, gender, or race. Dilireba is not Chinese, you should know already. YM is not the top shareholder of the company. She's not the person giving people their roles and picking their projects for them. As a professional, when people blame her for being bad at casting people and picking projects, WELL... she can't just point fingers at her boss and throw her boss into the firepit, tell people to go yell at her boss instead of her. That's ZLY's style, not YM's style. She took responsibilities over things that aren't her fault. Which actor/actress do not own a percentage of the company? ZLY starts out with 1% of Nicky Wu's company (Strawbear), and don't underestimate 1%, she got it at only 100,000 yuan (free price) from him and can generate ten folds back in millions, now her percentage already rose to 60 after some joints. Strawbear is known for producing Legend of Zu. In Legend of Zu II, did ZLY even return to star in it? Nope. ZLY was a big boss too, how come she didn't have to work hard like YM? Why didn't tell anyone she's a boss? Cause she can't handle being a leader like YM. ZLY wants to pull the weak card. She can't handle responsibilities, if people point fingers at her why she doesn't help anyone she will point fingers at her boss that they're the decision makers. And that's true, holding a small percentage of the company like her and YM only, you're not the big boss, it is true. It's just that YM chose to be a professional and ZLY chose to focus on herself. I believe even DLRB has some shares of the company. As long as anyone have the "connection + money" they can get shares. YM only holds a small percentage of Jaywalk, and Jaywalk isn't like other agencies. They started it from bottom up, that's why YM was considered one of the founders. YM didn't have the luck and "connections" like ZLY, she can only build a new company from scratch. At most, YM can only RECOMMEND which actor for which role, but to grant anyone a specific role, it's not up to her. The biggest help YM gave to DLRB is protecting DLRB from getting all these evil rumors about sleeping her way up, if YM markets herself as the senior who helped DLRB, then if pple say DLRB did casting couch, well... then DLRB only slept with YM, who cares? After ZLY markets that she used 10 years to play support roles (fake, she appeared 5minutes on numerous shows only), before getting to play lead roles, whoever gets to lead right away always get accused of having "connections". That's why YM played as DLRB and other youngsters's main connection to protect DLRB. You should be thanking YM instead. YM did many great stuff but she just didn't boast online like ZLY, who boast about things that can benefit her own self but it's very inconsiderate of others. Even so, YM gets slander about sleeping with young men too. It doesn't pay off being good, might as well be shrewd like ZLY.

You are so late. YM already severe ties with Jaywalk too. Now YM and DLRB are on their separate ways in terms of work, but ofc they'll remain good friends.

What can YM do about fixing the quality of dramas?
You have to understand some history about Cdramas first, then you can decide if it's YM's fault!
Around early 2000s - 2010 YM worked under great agency like Tangren and they produced some of the best shits ever such as Chinese Paladin, Fairies of Liaozhai, The young warriors, etc. Tangren has a long history since 1998. And Jaywalk? It's a baby one that only started in 2013. What are you expecting? Rome isn't built overnight. By 2016, even Tangren couldn't even keep up with competition anymore, Chinese Paladin 5 got horrible reviews, even in 2014 actually, big stars like Liu Shi Shi was kind of going down hill already because of the script issues in Scarlet II and Sound of Desert. Nicky Wu produced The Bride with White Hair in 2012, it wasn't even good. In 2014, Wallace Huo in Perfect Couple feels just like a cheap web drama we see today. Everything was declining as a whole!
What can a baby studio like Jaywalk do right away? They can only build up slowly. Dilireba didn't have the luck to get into a better company than JW. If you or a loved one doesn't have enough luck to land a job with Google but only work at Aldi store, are you going to go scold Aldi or what? Where ever you work, you should be a good worker and be grateful to that company too. Ever heard of don't bite the hands that feed you? Maybe Jaywalk marketed YM a bit too much and made people thought she would be something like a producer like Ruby Lin, but she wasn't, netz got the wrong impression and expected too much. Even if YM were to become a producer, fans didn't understand that not anyone can just be a producer btw, a producer is a producer and an actor is an actor, even if YM were to ever be a producer she needs experience and qualification first. Even for someone with so much experience like Nicky Wu, he worked with very professional directors for years ofc he picked up some of their tricks here and there, when he transitioned into producing it didn't go well. YM too, had the luck to work with more professional directors from the early 2000s, but producing is itself a whole new of art, men tend to pick up those skills better. So she was only a actor with some shareholdings in JW, and had a bit more privilege than others, that was all. The industry was lacking talented directors all around, what can YM do? Even her colleagues have the same trouble at their agencies. Even she couldn't land herself good scripts and was walked all over by juniors who happen to get just a bit better script (not even better IMO maybe just too much water army at work tbh). Stars like Yukee Chen under Tang Yan's studio wasn't doing any better either. Each and every agencies are suffering the same even till today, because the experienced directors retired. New directors are not that good and CGI doesn't help improve but hinders everything. Swords of Legends aired in 2014, it started with 7 or 8 billion, as viewers keep increasing, by 2016 the views only climbed up to about 13 billion, generically, the most extreme popular stuff can only get up to that point. However, you should be asking how the hell ZLY broke the data in 2015 with The Journey of Flower over 20 billion views within one go. China only has about 1 billion people. Just when China was suffering from insufficient good directors, ZLY devised this shrewd marketing scheme where whoever has the most fans is the most billable. Nobody dared to blame ZLY in 2015 right away, they thought it was a one time thing, in 2016 the bish ZLY did the same thing again when Legend of Chusen was nothing but BS, it didn't even have a plot, all it had was the dramawar between ZLY and YZ off screen because the director promised YZ she will be the lead but ZLY stole the leading role and all her scripts. YZ fans questioned ZLY but ZLY fans attacked YZ for being too ugly to lead and not popular enough like ZLY who broke the data in 2015. Legend of Chusen even far exceed the crazy data than Journey of Flower's crazy data. Ever since then, other productions got so pissed they decided to strike back. That's why we have all these stupid fan wars now, things with low qualities but the quantities are big and the fans are massive. How is that YM's fault that Cdramas are bad all around? She started her company in 2013 and made a bet to pay off her debt within a few years but the situation changed so huge thanks to ZLY over marketing to only benefit herself. Those years she got famous was very unpeaceful. When she attended Charity night, others didn't want to greet her the organizers had to put her in a special table by herself, and she did donated tons of money (well she better).

New actresses like Bai Lu, Esther Yu, Zhao Lusi, they're under their own agencies and have enough help to land them good projects. The reason why they get bad reviews about bad acting, you should be asking on ZLY page and not here. For Bai Lu, ZLY hates her for almost stealing the same award she wants, her news editors pretended to make Yang Zi sounds like the culprit hating Bai Lu on the news. Esther Yu is rich and her father sponsored Love Between Fairy and Devil, why are rich girls being hated? That's another question for ZLY fans.

You have to differentiate between real facts and rumors.
RUMORS: weibo, douban, facebook, youtube, MDL
FACTS: official news, (CHINA)Sohu, Sina, 163 | (USA)Jaynestars, Dramapanda, Dramapotatoe

The reason why some of us are so angry at ZLY is because the official news is not somewhere to spread lies, but it happens. For example, when you look at the footages you don't see YM of bad attitudes but on the official news, ZLY defamed her there as well as many other actresses.

All the bad stuff you're saying about YM are the stuff on the news ZLY's news editors said about her, that's why fans here are angry at ZLY.
You only know the RUMORS but you don't know the real stuff, and the real stuff we know aren't even everything either.

During the first few years everyone gave ZLY the chances to change her marketing tactics, if she isn't behind it then she should clarify, but she never did. It can only turn back to bite her at the end.

Tips for haters. Unfortunately Yu Shuxin and Lu Yuxiao have great personalities, pitching them against each other is a losing game. You know who you are. If you are the SMARTER one, then find other things to complain instead.
Screenshot the scenes you saw bad lighting, provide a prototype how it should be done.
Screenshot the scenes with slo-mo and provide a prototype of how it should be done.
Screenshot the scenes with bad camera angles and provide a prototype of how it should be done.

If you're going to complain, at least complain about something realistic and reasonable, provide the evidence, and solution.

Uh... I don't get it. Aren't all the brides from families of "martial arts" background? How do they not know martial arts?

Besides, I don't understand all the fuss about who's smarter and having more screen time. Things like that, used to never be a thing. Netz just want to find excuses to complain, a lot of times, there are people paying their bills for them to cyberbully.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha! Right? Like how?????? Maybe I need to speak nicely of all those shameless things ZLY are doing so I'll get hired too.

So when we need to blame YM for something we say "she doesn't have the right to control what other actors collaborate with" but when we want to blame her being a bad boss we also say "she made bad decisions for herself and other juniors under her agency"... One way or another, she's damn no matter what she does. 🤣

I cannot tell if Lucid007 is a ZLY hater, or just a really really bad worker for ZLY and cannot do her job right. 🤣

Why her? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Girl, LITERALLY a few minutes after you talking shits here, your article published on the 28th came out when it's only the 27th today so........ we're supposed to suspect Michelle Chen??? Ok???

Wink! Wink!
ZLY paid fans insulting our IQ, trying to make us think she's a fan of "Michelle Chen".
LMAOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!

YM and Chen Xiao are friends. Besides, ZLY hates Michelle Chen to death. Pretending to be a fan of Michelle definitely shoots multiple birds with an arrow. That simple tactic, ZLY played too many times against Yang Zi.

Yes, when YM was that so call "big boss" of JW, the juniors she looks after like Dillireba collaborated with Zhao lusi. YM is well known for giving spotlight to every new comers. The only person attacking others is ZLY. ZLY often attacks Zhao Lusi too btw. You must be a ZLY hater, wanting us to spill ZLY's dirty eggs when we don't want to.