P Non Portraitist

Did I say I cringe because of Karl's feminine way of acting? I never did. I cringe because for me the dancing scene is cringey. And that is that. Not all things that we feel watching BL series are rooted to negative emotions.

And internalized homophobia is a coined word, humans gave meaning to it. Saying that there is no 'heterophobia' invalidates the meaning of homophobia. Anyway, I will not pursue this discussion because my viewing experience is not rooted to what you are insisting.

Also, I just noticed, did you just created your account just to reply to my post? Well, I am flattered :)

But if that is the reason, would you say the cringe you felt as internalized heterophobia? I don't think so. The cringe I felt with the dance scene I think is just that, its cringey and nothing more. It is not rooted to any phobia but from the viewing experiences from watching films, shows and series (whether it is BL or not). And as I've said I know they did make it cringey because it is needed for character development plus the post script in the end.

But I think their market likes flat, android-like acting because this show has such high rating.

Agree with the problematic writing. They were able to add an arc that is not in the novel (according to the past comments, I've had only read the Oxygen novel) but were not able to edit the original novel to translate well into live action/series. And that I believe is just lazy.

I'm getting Cai vibe on Kokoy in the poster you've mention. :) :)

Agree!

Wow. What came to my mind is Love of Siam when watching EP1 and then Dew with EP2.

For me it was too, but it was a necessary scene and the very visual of the post script at the end of EP6.

I see. You don't like the character. For me, I think he is not homophobic, he had surrounded himself with walls because he is afraid to let his inner self out, and being with Vlad had slowly gave him courage to be out.

As for your view with Karl's straight-ness, you said he is supposed to be straight maybe because that is what he presented himself in the previous episodes. However, in EP 5 when Anna asked him of his gender he said "straight," and then added "I think," because maybe that is how he view someone who is straight or that is how he identifies himself. And who are we to contradict that. We don't have standards of straightness because we don't have measurement for that.

BUT I respect your view with Karl's characterization, we do view these series through the lenses of our experiences.

"As for the feminine character in other BL" please do give the list.

BTW, I am in no way affiliated with GSP's production team or whatever. I am, just like you, a viewer and an ally.

This one hits differently.

I really like this one :). Specially the OST.

I got a laugh with "the man is all plastic."

Are we talking about the same series? Or did we watch the same EP 6? Or you judged the EP when you've FF it in 5 minutes?

With Karl's dance, it was a cringe for me, but it has its purpose. It represents his coming out and acceptance of who he really is, plus getting out the shadows of his dead brother.

As for the gay thing, is there ever a gauge of too gay and too little?

:) same. But I mostly feel protective of PH BLs. You know. Ally!

Yes! and it sooo represent Karl's acceptance of himself.

I hope you were able to read "for me" in my statement. Cause for me it was. And I understand the purpose of that scene.

My gosh. Did EP6 blew our comprehension. Charot!

There was so much into EP6.

Yes to challenging the family dynamics! Yes to attacking and reaping the LBTQ+ stereotype! And for that I love this more! And btw, challenging family dynamics in PH is a huge feat.

But ugh, the dance-scene was a cringe for me. And yet it was a glimpse of Karl's true self and a reconciliation of the two dichotomies within him.

Yap. That's why I included a comment in (). However, as far as I remember, there was an arc which can be considered as BL. But the overlapping theme is a mature one, so BL purists ( those fantasy stans) will probably veer away.

I wonder who's to blame. Lol. I mean, the actors are good-looking, I believe they had at least has some acting gigs before being cast as leads in this series so the 'flat' vibe must not be solely due to them. What's left are the directors, script-writers and the consultants.

Watched EP2. And boy I was thankful that they did a good job handling the jealousy theme. However, I sense an overly possessive AND romantic character in Teh. I also liked the subtle way they showed the slowly maturing affection of Teh with Oh using smell. I think the aversion with coconut is rooted with his past with Oh-aew.

I still get the 'Love of Siam' vibe in this one. Plus, Teh (Billkin) keeps reminding me of Witwisit with the way he smiles and the way he act.

Can't wait for EP 3.

Lol. What a waste of good OST and visuals...