DramaHeroine

Yeah, I think the backstory is going to end up being kind of garbage, because they've done very little to lay down any sort of groundwork.

I still think he should have been more suspicious about her situation though. It's a plot hole/inconsistency with his character that I think is now coming to bite the story in the butt.

I didn't remember Min Joon mentioning his mom, so I guess that answers that question. I really don't think there is any sort of rule or anything that they have to have children with the shamans though. I think we're all doing a lot of filling in the blanks, because the story isn't giving us any information.

I don't think there's inbreeding going on. I'm pretty sure when grandma met Soldier, she told him that she was pregnant. Even if she didn't though, I don't think Mom is grandpa's daughter. The drama hasn't suggested as much, at least.

Yeah, cutting those scenes out just makes it so glaringly obvious. I've been marathoning this drama off and on, and that really ruined my viewing flow. I'm probably gonna have to do some re-watching to get back in the groove with the story.

I'm on ep. 23 with the infamous scene cut, and I'm thinking it's not just 23 that had cuts made. Ep. 21 has some weird editing as well, and ep. 22 has a couple of small moments that feel like they were leading somewhere but didn't.

Personally, I would have preferred they had left whatever all they removed in the drama. Even if the plotlines introduced got dropped, at least the flow of the episodes would make sense.

I'm currently on ep 23, and from 21 to now, I've noticed the editing issue. I'm glad to hear it gets straightened out.

I think you might be creating a rule out of something that's not a rule. There's no indication in the story that the shamans have to sleep with and have daughters with the men they have contractual relationships with. It just seems to be something that happens. And they aren't required to marry off the daughters. In fact, I imagine they want to avoid that since when that shaman leaves, her good luck leaves with her. That's probably part of why the CEO has kept them locked up and wants to pass Seul Bi to Min Joon, so that the good luck doesn't leave their family.

My grandfather fought in World War 2, and if he were still alive, he would be 98 right now. That's seems about commiserate to how old Soldier probably is. I think there may also be some unusual aging going on with the shaman's and/or the men they have contractual relationships with.

And I don't know if you've noticed, but they don't seem too concerned with making the actors/actresses look age appropriate to their characters in this drama, lol.

The way I understand this at this point, and I think this is the correct understanding of the family tree, Grandma shaman met Soldier. She was already pregnant with Suel Bi's mother. Suel Bi's mother was born and 'given' (it feels so icky saying that) to the CEO to be his shaman. Then Suel Bi's mom ran away for three months and became pregnant. Now they want to 'give' (BLECH) Suel Bi to Min Joon to be his shaman. That's what I've got so far.

The drama hasn't suggested that either grandpa or CEO had a wife at all, just the shamans that are kept hidden away. I never actually even thought about that, so I have no idea how they've all gone on to have sons.

I do imagine the contractual relationship a shaman has with someone can become quite complicated and probably often turns into a weird mix of control and attraction.

For the record, I do think he has had a mostly realistic response to what he's been through. He was avoiding others before Seul Bi showed back up, he's continued to live under a false name, he hasn't been telling anyone about what happened to him, and he's suspicious of anyone connected with what he went through. He hasn’t even tried to convince his neighbors that he’s not bad luck or at least get them to not hate him so much. Before Seul Bi showed up, he was resigned to living a sad, isolated life where he couldn’t trust anyone, and he couldn’t love anyone. The reason I’m frustrated is because he’s Not suspicious when it comes to what's been happening to Seul Bi. There are several important questions he should have been asking. Why was Seul Bi so afraid to go back to her family? Shouldn’t a child with a loving family be glad to be reunited with them? Why was she so adamant about not trying to get her memory back? And why could she remember Soo Gwang but not anything else? What is she running away from? Is she in danger? Instead of asking these questions, he just kept trying to get her off his hands. Why was Soo Gwang not concerned with her well-being?

As for the mystery, it's fine that it won't get revealed till later. I totally get that. But they should be giving us a little more information by now instead of repeating the same thing over and over again like a broken record. What I really want is to understand the CEO and Min Joon better. What is the CEO so afraid of? Why is Min Joon going along with this? The writers could very easily help us understand why the CEO and Min Joon are behaving the way they are without giving the big mystery away, but they aren't doing it, and I'm beginning to think that the reason they aren't telling us anything is because there's actually nothing to tell, because the writers have no plan. For example, we're now being told that Min Joon's father wasn't responsible for what happened to Soo Gwang. I'm not necessarily against this plot twist, but it also came out of nowhere, so it feels like the writers just threw it in there with little thought. I think they're spinning their wheels, because they don't know where to go with this part of the story.

The small-town guy argument is weird to me for a couple reasons. 1) They have not characterized Soo Gwang as a small-town guy. So far, we’ve seen him as a university student living in the city and about to enter a prestigious company and now as someone living their life in hiding from whoever attempted to kill him and erase his existence. And given how easy it is for everyone to apparently go back and forth from where he’s living to what I assume is Seoul (I don’t remember if the drama told us), even if they are living in a small-town, it’s not relevant given its close proximity to such a large and metropolitan area. There would be a lot of travel to and from by a variety of people. 2) Small-town people are just as complex as city people, and they’re just as likely to be suspicious of others as anyone else. In fact, sometimes small-town people are more suspicious because they're part of a very tight-knit community and don't trust outsiders. I also don’t know how their thought processes would be simple. Small-town people deal with complex problems all the time. It would be different if the story had characterized Soo Gwang in this way, or small-town’s in this way. Some stories do that. But the writers haven’t made any sort of statement on small-towns or small-town people, so I don’t think that argument really makes sense.

'I thought the soldier guy was the FL's grandmother's husband (the one who saved the lady) but then I also thought he was the current chairman's father so that makes no sense whatsoever and I'm completely muddled up.'

No, I think that part does actually make sense. Grandma was with the CEO's father, Mom is with CEO, and Suel Bi would be paired with Min Joon. Grandpa is the soldier as the timeline matches up. The problem now though is that I could have sworn the actress for mom is the same actress who played the woman Grandpa/soldier found during the war.

I'm almost positive they said it in the drama itself. I don't remember reading a comment about it here, as I haven't been keeping up with most of the comments.

I think what's going on here is that they don't have consistent rules for how the whole Shaman thing works, and it's scrambling our brains, lol.

I hadn't thought about that. You might be right. I think it's still way too quick though. I don't really know why the writers want to go that route already.

Yeah, it's starting to look like 12 eps would have been a better length if they were going to move the romance this quickly.

As much as I have liked Soo Gwang, his reactions to Seul Bi's situation have never made sense to me, and after ep. 7, I'm particularly frustrated with him. First, when he takes her home after he and Seul Bi's first meeting, he should have immediately become suspicious. What sort of people would assault you over bringing their child home after said child ran away? You've done the right thing. A normal response would be gratitude. So him not immediately being concerned for her or suspicious about her 'family' was the first illogical response. (Granted, he had a lot going on after that, so he didn't really have time to think about it.) But then she shows up again, two years later, refusing to leave, and he just can't seem to understand what her issue is and why she won't go. My immediate thought, just based on what happened when I returned her the first time, would have been to assume that there is abuse going on in her home, and she fled to escape it. I would Certainly not be trying to get her to go back, under any circumstances. I actually would have reported what I knew to the police.

But I overlooked all of that, because overall, his weird reactions weren't impeding my enjoyment of the story or the lead's romance. I cannot overlook his behavior in ep 7 though. I'm legitimately kind of pissed at him.

He's now essentially blaming her ability, and by proxy her (although he's saying that he's not), for all of the terrible things that happened to him. None of which are even remotely her fault, or even her ability's fault, as far as I can tell from what we know about her ability. I mean, she can see the future, she seems to be able to manipulate others to a small degree, and she can occasionally stop time. But we have no idea just how she can do those things or how often. And I fail to see how she could have used any of those abilities to stop those things from happening to him anyway or how those abilities would have made those events occur. I do seem to remember her possibly seeing that something bad was going to happen to his mom, and I guess maybe he wants to know why she didn't try to stop it if she knew. But what exactly was she supposed to do about it while locked in her ivory hotel room tower? Maybe if he hadn't taken her back there, she would have been able to prevent it, but we'll never know, will we?

I was enjoying all of the cute this drama has to offer despite the pretty frustrating and boring plot going on around the main couple, but I think this drama is losing me.

Just finished ep. 7, and now I have further thoughts.

I'm totally confused about this as well. I thought they said earlier on that the women just suddenly become pregnant at a certain age, no man required, but then we found out (rather abruptly, in my opinion), that Seul Bi's mom did have her through the usual human means, so either I misunderstood something, or this drama is being inconsistent.