DramaHeroine

Yeah, I'm always confused when people are like 'I wonder who she'll end up with,' because it's obvious from the writing who the male lead is. I have to remind myself that most people don't know anything about how storytelling works, or what the common tells are in writing. (Still drives me a little nuts though, lol.)

I think...we may be kindred spirits, lol. I wouldn't say I always love the male lead in dramas. There are plenty of male leads that I think are the worst. But I'm generally always committed to the main pairing in the story, even when the male lead is being a horse's rear end. My brain just goes 'The writer has chosen to put these two together, and let no man put asunder.' And it's not even intentional. My subconscious brain is just very decided on this issue. And when a second male lead starts trying to pull the female lead away from the male lead, even when the male lead Deserves to lose her, it almost always just pisses me off. It comes across as clingy to me, and I can't stand clingy second leads. I'm still not sure if I've ever truly experienced SLS, because even when I have loved the second male lead (The Master's Sun, anyone?), I almost always still want the leads to end up together. What my subconscious always wants is for the male lead to shape up and become deserving of the female lead, and my subconscious brain will hold out for a loooooong time waiting for that to happen. I'm definitely like you in that I'm not willing to bet on the second male lead, because I know that only leads to heartache. Of course, trusting in the male lead has led me to a lot of rage and frustration, so it probably evens things out, lol.

Last year was my first time attempting the drama challenge too (I've been watching dramas for over 10 years), and I failed miserably, lol. I don't think the drama challenge works with the way I consume dramas. I start dramas solely based on how I'm feeling in the moment, so if I don't feel interested in watching something right in that moment, then I won't pick that drama up. I think, in order to succeed at the drama challenge, I would have to plan like you are going to, and I just don't watch dramas that way. That adds a layer of stress to my drama viewing, and I just don't need that.

Okay, lol.

I really like the ambiance they created, and I think that's why I kept watching for so long. It kind of hits one of my sweet spots in fantastical story settings, lol.

I've never heard of him before reading this article, and I neither believe nor don't believe him. I have no idea who is telling the truth and who isn't. I was just saying that he didn't admit to bullying anyone. He admitted to having an argument with someone that escalated to a fight. They're not the same thing.

I try not to use the word normal (I don't always succeed), because it's kind of a nebulous term. How do we define normal, how do we determine what is normal? The answer will be different from person to person. It also often has the connotation that something is okay or appropriate. In this case, I don't think bullying is ever okay or appropriate.

In the case of children, they are often going through really tumultuous emotional difficulties on the inside, whether that be puberty (5th grade is about where all of that junk starts and dealing with those new feelings is pretty hard), trauma (abuse, neglect, etc.), having experienced bullying themselves, and just a general response to the confusion of life. And we have to remember that kids don't have the tools to deal with these things or with the strong, difficult emotions that come with them. Someone has to teach them.

And considering the number of people who have come out online and said they experienced bullying, and if we assume the majority of them are telling the truth and have an accurate view of their experience, it would figure that the number of bullies would be of equal number or greater (since bullying can often happen in groups) to the number of people saying they were bullied. They can't all have been bullied by the same few people.

So no, I wouldn't use the word normal. But bullying is a very common behavior in children.

I'm beginning to suspect you might be a troll, but I'll go ahead and engage with your comment anyway. If your degrading language is nothing more than just being a child, then him getting into a fight with his friend and then them patching it up later would be also, seeing as he was also an Elementary schooler. Just like You. Surely you see the corner you have backed yourself into here.

I would like that to happen as well, and I'm sure it does for some people. I don't think it changes the fact that people's deeply personal issues, such as drama in their interpersonal relationships, aren't ultimately anyone else's business though. That's what a lot of bullying scandals feel like, the disfunction in people's relationships being revealed to the public as a form of entertainment or to give us an inflated sense of self because we 'would never do that' or an opportunity to talk about how utterly terrible this thing is and then feel like we've 'done' something meaningful.

I would tend to agree with that. Bullying is targeted at a person with the intention of causing them harm, but two friends getting into a fight is something a bit different.

I'd like some clarification on what you mean. The tenor of your comment seems to imply that I have revealed some sort of serious flaw in my character with my comment, sort of implying that I might be a bad person or even that I was a bully growing up myself. Is that correct?

Just want to point out that your comment would technically fall under bullying as it involves degrading speech.

I'm with both of you on this. I don't see how any of this is beneficial to anyone; us, him, the people accusing him of bullying. The only people who can and should deal with this issue is them. None of us should be involved in the brokenness of other people's interpersonal relationships, and its so weird how so many people so desperately want to insert themselves into other people's lives in that way.

'Once a bully, always a bully.' This is a really dangerous statement. This means that if a person is mean to someone in a bullying way even once, then they are always defined by that one moment, and they can never grow past it. But some bullies were bullied themselves. Some bullies were abused. Some bullies were neglected. Some bullies were just never taught by anyone how to treat others. Does that no longer matter because they became bullies themselves? Do we not want people to change? Do we not want healing to take place? Cause this ^ is not how we get there.

He doesn't admit to bullying though. He says they had an argument which turned into a fight, and that could mean a variety of things. Maybe it was a physical fight or maybe it was just a lot of shouting. But it doesn't mean bullying.

I feel like a lot of the commenters on these bullying scandal posts must be very young and don't understand just how easy it is to find yourself being the bad guy, whether that's being a bully, cheating in school, cheating in a relationship, ignoring the needs of others, being self-involved, so many different things. It's a lot easier to be the worst version of yourself than you think, and it's especially easy when you are very young, such as Dong Hee was. Not only are our bodies and our brains not even close to fully formed at that age, there are also so many things going on that you have no control over and no understanding of. Kids can be selfish and mean and self-absorbed and not even understand Why.

Here's a list of just some of the many things going on at that age on a developmental level: https://www.understood.org/articles/en/developmental-milestones-for-typical-fourth-and-fifth-graders

I don't know the details of the allegations here (and I don't know that I need to), but this guy was in the 5th grade. He is pretty much guaranteed to be a different person now. And yeah, maybe he grew up to be a terrible person. But there is just as much likelihood that he did not. And none of us know which one he turned out to be.

So I'm gonna be honest. A lot of you are showing your age with your reactions, and I really hope none of you find yourselves in a similar position where your past mistakes are used to ruin you.

I really didn't want to drop this, but I have been stuck at ep 11 for awhile now and can't get myself to come back and finish.

The performances here are all superb. No issues on that front. I really like the mythos/world/world-building of this story as well. It has a good atmospheric feeling during the more fantastical elements. I love both of the main characters and can really empathize with them. I'm not interested in the love triangle between our three secondary leads, but that's not really important enough for me to drop a drama. And I didn't find the rules of this universe confusing at all.

I just haven't connected with the story like I hoped I would, and I really would have liked to see the female lead more cut up about having to leave her loves ones, because I know I would be an absolute wreck if this happened to me. I do like the romance, but I also find some of the leads motivations to not be very strong, and some of their choices have frustrated me.

So I don't know. It's been languishing in my currently watching list for weeks and stressing me out every time I see it, and I'm the type of person who gets antsy when her currently watching list is too long, so something has to go. I mean, I've got a Wuxia, an Asadora, and a Kdrama classic I'm purposely watching in small doses on my plate, so I can't keep anguishing over this drama. I'm gonna drop it and maybe I'll come back to it someday to finish.

Thank you! I was kind of despairing of ever finding the other seasons.

Can you tell me where you found these subs, and do they have subs for season 3 and 4? I love this series.

Yes, yes, yes to Our Times. So cute!!!