Some of the places where the ML went wrong were in how he gave unsolicited advice when the FL joined the company.…
This is so interesting because I do not see this perspective on the FL at all. She meant what she said (that she wanted boundaries). He pushed and pushed and kept crossing the line. She told him multiple times that she wanted to only have a professional relationship with him, she switched teams, she told him he was being inappropriate in the stairway, etc. etc.
She's also a lot younger and more inexperienced than him (she's had one boyfriend, he's had A LOT of relationships). Regarding power dynamics, he holds all the power and she holds none. He's a man (and therefore always believed by society until proven guilty) and she's a woman (and therefore never believed by society until proven innocent). She's scared of losing her job.
And she's extremely attracted to him, respects and likes him as a person, doesn't know if she can trust him, worries she's not enough/not worthy of his higher status (not just at work, but also due to his wealthy background/parents).
I mean... you expect her to be savvy and shrewd, yet she was raised middle-class and sheltered. If anything, it seems like you want HER to be the mind-reader here.
Feeling vindicated reading your comment, I kept wondering if it was just me. The storyline is fine (nothing special…
Oh! Sorry, Khaana. I was responding to the OG poster (Juuu). But I 100% agree with you, to each their own! I'm sure I love some dramas that you didn't and vice-versa. No worries <3
Help, I'm not sure if I should keep watching - I'm on episode 15 and currently I'm losing interest, there's a…
Feeling vindicated reading your comment, I kept wondering if it was just me. The storyline is fine (nothing special / fairly common) but the romance does feel very flat. I do love Hou Ming Hao and Ai Mi, though. They're both great, but this drama is very *meh*.
Based on comments below from novel readers: 1. He *TREATS* her well, but his words are harsh and mean. 2. He wants…
I've been reading through comments below, so my information is all extrapolated hearsay based on their comments, but it seems like he never wanted it to be "secret," and yet he never vocalizes his desire to be openly / publicly dating her. Thinking to himself he wants to be public, but maybe never says as much to her; or maybe he says it lightly in passing, afraid of her rejection.
Wish I hadn’t seen this one yet ughReadersPlease spoil meDoes he treat her like shit and a FWB side chic the…
Based on comments below from novel readers: 1. He *TREATS* her well, but his words are harsh and mean. 2. He wants to go public (whether he communicates this with her or not, I don't know) but she is the one who doesn't want anyone to know. 3. They are on and off, but mostly "off" during the 6 years. Kinda a situation where she keeps tripping and falling into his bed after making eye contact too long, but then comes to her senses in the morning (each time) which then hurts his feelings, and so he lashes out.
Can someone spoil for me the reason of their breakup. Did they date for 6 whole years? and then breakup. Then…
Down below someone explained that in the novel, FL and ML are on and off for 6 years (mostly off because ML's statements to FL are mean and FL never calls him on it/bottles everything up).
Then her friend commits suicide at the same time the FL is up for a promotion. The ML is on the panel that determines the candidates scores (she's one of the candidates). The FL doesn't get the promotion and there's some crossed-wires where FL thinks ML gave her low scores.
FL doesn't tell ML about FL's friend dying, and the FL's friend's death plus her devastation in not getting the promotion after 6 years of hard work (plus the fact that FL thinks ML purposefully ruined her career) all leave FL feeling despair; FL leaves town without telling ML and cuts him off completely.
ML then finds out about her friend passing, and then discovers the misunderstanding (that FL thinks ML gave her low scores and ruined her career prospects) which makes the ML realize how terrible he's been to her (that is, how mean his words have been).
I keep rewatching and am curious why doesn’t his character correct her? like why doesn’t Luke say, I didn’t…
My guess is that he's not even sure what he's feeling right now.
Exhibit A: He bought the bag as an apology, but also as a way to absolve himself from treating her poorly, right? Like, he says, "You left your bag at my place on purpose" And then she says, "No. I didn't. What happened was a mistake. Goodbye."
So, now he's all up in his feelings, because HE also said to his friend, "It was a mistake," but when SHE says the same words, he gets mad / feels bad.
So, he buys her the bag, because he figures an expensive gift will make everything okay and she should be thankful for the bag, right? (I'm guessing this worked in his past "relationships")
But then, he gives her the bag and she AUTOMATICALLY ASSUMES he's trying to buy her silence. I think he was offended by her assumption and got mad/nasty with her, unwilling to correct her assumption because he was hurt (but not knowing why he's hurt because it was a mistake...)
Exhibit B: He goes to work and finds out she's transferring departments and is again hurt. When he attempts to confront her on it ("Is it really necessary to draw this line between us?") she basically says, "You're sleazy, and I don't want to work with you." Again, his feelings are hurt, but what can he say? They both said it was a mistake, and now she wants to get as far away from him as possible. He's got to be feeling terrible about himself, but where is the lie? What can he say? He can't say what he's actually thinking, which is: "I bought you the bag to apologize for accusing you of leaving your bag at my place on purpose. I'm sorry." because doing so would be admitting he wants more than a fling and it wasn't a mistake for him. But since she already said it was a mistake... what would be the point in apologizing since she's made it clear she's not interested in more-than-a-fling.
That might be the case. But another possibility might be that viewers aren't used to this level of insane chemistry onscreen between characters / actors paired with disconcerting levels of handsome as well as attention to detail in intimate scenes, and it's catching us all off guard. And thus we are commiserating our shock and awe. Here. Together.
But, okay. I'm fine if you want to call that "in heat." Potato, pa-tah-toe.
She's also a lot younger and more inexperienced than him (she's had one boyfriend, he's had A LOT of relationships). Regarding power dynamics, he holds all the power and she holds none. He's a man (and therefore always believed by society until proven guilty) and she's a woman (and therefore never believed by society until proven innocent). She's scared of losing her job.
And she's extremely attracted to him, respects and likes him as a person, doesn't know if she can trust him, worries she's not enough/not worthy of his higher status (not just at work, but also due to his wealthy background/parents).
I mean... you expect her to be savvy and shrewd, yet she was raised middle-class and sheltered. If anything, it seems like you want HER to be the mind-reader here.
The storyline is fine (nothing special / fairly common) but the romance does feel very flat. I do love Hou Ming Hao and Ai Mi, though. They're both great, but this drama is very *meh*.
omg his mom cracked me up.
"Weird personality" (≧▽≦)
1. He *TREATS* her well, but his words are harsh and mean.
2. He wants to go public (whether he communicates this with her or not, I don't know) but she is the one who doesn't want anyone to know.
3. They are on and off, but mostly "off" during the 6 years. Kinda a situation where she keeps tripping and falling into his bed after making eye contact too long, but then comes to her senses in the morning (each time) which then hurts his feelings, and so he lashes out.
Then her friend commits suicide at the same time the FL is up for a promotion. The ML is on the panel that determines the candidates scores (she's one of the candidates). The FL doesn't get the promotion and there's some crossed-wires where FL thinks ML gave her low scores.
FL doesn't tell ML about FL's friend dying, and the FL's friend's death plus her devastation in not getting the promotion after 6 years of hard work (plus the fact that FL thinks ML purposefully ruined her career) all leave FL feeling despair; FL leaves town without telling ML and cuts him off completely.
ML then finds out about her friend passing, and then discovers the misunderstanding (that FL thinks ML gave her low scores and ruined her career prospects) which makes the ML realize how terrible he's been to her (that is, how mean his words have been).
Exhibit A: He bought the bag as an apology, but also as a way to absolve himself from treating her poorly, right?
Like, he says, "You left your bag at my place on purpose"
And then she says, "No. I didn't. What happened was a mistake. Goodbye."
So, now he's all up in his feelings, because HE also said to his friend, "It was a mistake," but when SHE says the same words, he gets mad / feels bad.
So, he buys her the bag, because he figures an expensive gift will make everything okay and she should be thankful for the bag, right? (I'm guessing this worked in his past "relationships")
But then, he gives her the bag and she AUTOMATICALLY ASSUMES he's trying to buy her silence. I think he was offended by her assumption and got mad/nasty with her, unwilling to correct her assumption because he was hurt (but not knowing why he's hurt because it was a mistake...)
Exhibit B: He goes to work and finds out she's transferring departments and is again hurt. When he attempts to confront her on it ("Is it really necessary to draw this line between us?") she basically says, "You're sleazy, and I don't want to work with you."
Again, his feelings are hurt, but what can he say? They both said it was a mistake, and now she wants to get as far away from him as possible. He's got to be feeling terrible about himself, but where is the lie? What can he say? He can't say what he's actually thinking, which is: "I bought you the bag to apologize for accusing you of leaving your bag at my place on purpose. I'm sorry." because doing so would be admitting he wants more than a fling and it wasn't a mistake for him. But since she already said it was a mistake... what would be the point in apologizing since she's made it clear she's not interested in more-than-a-fling.
I love it. It's soooooooo goooooooooood.
But another possibility might be that viewers aren't used to this level of insane chemistry onscreen between characters / actors paired with disconcerting levels of handsome as well as attention to detail in intimate scenes, and it's catching us all off guard. And thus we are commiserating our shock and awe. Here. Together.
But, okay. I'm fine if you want to call that "in heat." Potato, pa-tah-toe.