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LOL - I think that is the problem - I like them both too much!!!

Most of the time yes Viki has better subs. But L&D they translated the ML title as Senior God (as opposed to Great God) it was so off I gritted my teeth everytime I saw it. Besides Viki, Astro usually has great subs (but its only available in Malaysia) - for some shows they are even better than Viki's. Dramacool somehow obtains Astro subs for many dramas. Not exactly endorsing illegal sites but my mom needs subs too and I always tell her to watch wherever she can get the best ones.

Love Bai Lu and Xu Kai but that one I never managed to get past the first few, I don't know why. I think it is the triangle it just frustrated me.

Heheh... the dirty looks and death stares Chengjun and Zexin exchange I think I am gonna bust my gut!!! And they are all preening at being her romance novel heroes... I am gonna die!!!

Try In a Class of Her Own. Its really hilarious. And 3 hot dudes. Not 1, not 2 but 3!!! How often does a girl get a treat like that??? My drama buddy was parked on my sofa ogling them all day yesterday with a silly grin on her face.

Heh... that's awesome - the deaf girl can hear the thunder!

Actually I have to thank you for raising this because I spent the morning reading up on this and learned some things, which is great because this is an industry I look at for work. The gist is China and Korea have been cooperating on the media industry over the last decade with both sides keen to gain access to each others markets. There are well established frameworks for content licensing and protection. So if copyright has been infringed in this case, there is legal recourse. iQiyi has sizable assets and they spend hundreds of millions of dollars every quarter on licensing fees so they are not a serial abuser of copyright. What studies have shown is that for these remakes to be successful, the script has to be substantially altered and localised and often the plot is changed to fit into the politics/culture. So this may be different enough not to owe a license fee to the Korean production. It also depends on what they (SKKS) licensed from the original novelist to begin with. Maybe they never acquired all the rights so in this case, maybe the appropriate entity to license the remake from is the novelist. I don't know that for a fact but I do think if you were keen to watch this, maybe you should consider doing so anyway and trust that any legal issues will get sorted out properly.

Uhm... didn't say that its ok to copy anything and wow... you are really great at putting words in other people's mouths.

There has to be a legal definition for everything including plagiarism it is not what you think it is or is not. So if you think it is but it doesn't meet the legal standard then it has to be a loophole? That makes you the judge and the jury and sole arbiter of what is and what is not. Sorry but you don't run the world.

Lemme just tell you SKKS is not as well known as you may believe. Never heard of it until now and definitely didn't watch this because this was marketed as a remake (of something I never heard of). Would that make you sleep better?

The only point I am making is that this is a fun drama but hardly a masterpiece nor that original. It is also not something that would cost that much to legally acquire the rights to remake. The reason iQiyi (a big company with a lot to lose not just financially but reputationally) may not have done so is that SKKS's original claim to the IP may not be that defensible or strong. Just entertain the idea that maybe that is the case.

I don't think you get it. Pliagiarism is not something trivial that you just hurl at some production/book based on heresay. Do your own work - don't quote what other people have done. And given this hasn't aired to its conclusion, I am skeptical at this stage anyone really knows wheter this meets the legal definition of plagiarism. It is a rather technical definitiion that goes beyond characters with similar backstories and characteristics. Indeed if I had a dollar for everytime I have a deja vu feeling about a character... I guess I would respect your view more if you actually watched both dramas and can credibly accuse this one of doing so. I am not exonerating it, I can't because I didn't watch SKKS and I have no plan to do so and not piggybacking on other people's work (oh would that be pliagiarism too???). But as a layman, I can observe from personal experience, this story is A LOT like Butterfly Lovers although by swapping the ML/FL backstories and the ending they may (or may not) escape the technical definition of plagiarism.

Well you haven't watched this and in order to make a fair comment on whether it plagiarizes anything you should.

I watched Butterfly Lovers many times and I can tell you, despite some superficial modifications, this is A LOT like it but I am hoping it ends happily. I didn't watch the Korean version so I won't comment on that one way or another. But if I were iQiyi's lawyer, this is an easy one. Just buy the rights to Butterfly Lovers. It preceded the Korean drama and this one is uncannily like it. I won't comment further because I know I am not qualified to accuse any production of pliagirism unless I watched both.

In any case, don't really care if you watch it or not. Having a blast, this is so much fun. And if there was pliagiarism, I am sure it will get sorted out in the courts over time.

This is an iQiyi production. iQiyi is a company with a US$15bn market capitalization and an army of lawyers that protect their legal interest and exclusive intellectual property. It is a complicated subject but I would be shocked if they would just simply and recklessly plagiarize what is someone else's intellectual property. As a big company they are easy targets and can easily be sued for a lot of money so if they indeed did steal someone else's IP, I am sure they would be sued for more than what a simple royalty paymnet would be worth. And if that is the case, I will personally cheer for the Korean company whose IP they "stole". Since they have about US$1bn on their balance sheet the last time I looked, they have much more to lose by doing something so so commercially stupid. They are listed on Nasdaq so they can be sued in the US and can't hide behind China's great wall. If they never bought the IP to begin with, it is likely because the company that "owns" the IP also probably acquired it by dubious means. I guess it must be very hard to sue someone for stealing something that was for example, say stolen to begin with...

Not sure why the mute girl and the keanu reaves wannabe need to exist and have so much airtime. Boring. I rather watch the trio, how does these other two add any value???

I think that is fair. To me this has consistently been a drama that comes across a lot better than it actually is. The script is very predictible and cliche driven but it started with a bang that disguises the story's logic issues and the leads pull the show up to hit above its weight category. While I am still enjoying it, I already know they are going to disappoint me in terms of really bringing Pengcheng wang's story to life. Its going to skim over his many great acievements and dumb it all down to a grand love story. But hey, love makes the world go round right?

Pengcheng and Jingling are their titles. Prince Pengcheng and Prince Jingling but their given names are Liu Yikang and Liu Yixuan respectively.

No it was about Pengcheng dying. I can't tell for sure, but I suspect we don't see the emperor because they are not in the capital. Before Pengcheng was promoted to prime minister he governed a very important province for his brother and did a great job there. I suspect that is when this is set but its just a guess, the drama doesn't say. Other shows translate wang (王) as prince - like NIF2 Xiao Tingsheng or Changlin Wang was translated as Prince of Changlin. I think that makes more sense and is less confusing but its the translator's preference.

That's kind of my point though. The writers are addicted to having a clche deranged woman in the story. So if they kill Leqing they will just replace her with another by say making Princess Consort turn evil. It was the same in Weiyoung... just one sweet faced b*tch from hell after another.

Bad judgement.

I totally agree. This is one character we didn't really need to see so much of in this drama and now that they killed her off I am quite sure they will just turn the Princess Consort into another Leqing.

I don't think I will rate this super high either because of the cliches and the logic and other problems that are well discussed on this site already. The thing is, the fans already know it and acknowledge it. These common tropes are used so often because many times they also happen to work and in this case, they kind of do so there is a high enjoyment factor and the drama can get away with a lot of nonsense most people won't tolerate in another drama. It has an X-factor that AvenueX (with emphasis on the X) seems to have missed.