PeachBlossomGoddess

I actually have quite low expectations for this. I don’t think DH and FJ are such interesting characters that they have 20 episodes (TMOPB) plus 50 some episodes of ELD or 70+ episodes of material without lots of repetition of the worst parts (teenage FJ). They’d been better off skipping a bunch of that and focusing more on grownup queen FJ instead. That said Dilraba is gorgeous and it’s ok so far but definitely not something I am gonna buy VIP for.

I agree it was a bit mean spirited of them to basically try to preempt the original DH/FJ story by pushing their own version. They did a good job of it but it did compress the YH/BQ storyline towards the end. And as much as I loved TMOPB the ending execution was terrible.

Indeed the white beast is adorable and not at all scary.

Amazon Prime and Youtube both have the same English subs from the production company. They are ok. Viki is expected to eventually sub this and it will be a lot better but you will have to wait for it. Astro if you have access has very good subtitles.

Must be from all that lifting of Dilraba (he complained she was heavy in TMOPB).

There are two romance lines but they are not pivotal and only rather incidental to the show.

Well you certainly get lots of Luo Jin in this show! OTP = one time pairing or the main leads.

So far both leads are decent so it is not yet a lost cause, its just the surrounding characters overact and are annoying - its like they picked up the worst of the old 80s/90s TVB instead of the best. It may improve. I will watch until the brothers meet and see how it goes. You can always keep a few of those so-so dramas for the treadmill.

Ugh! The signature TVB crass, noisy, silly, over exaggerated wierd and obnoxious characters. And looks like filler disease. I will give it 1-2 more and then this goes into the dustbin. Its a pity because its based on a great novel,

Yeah it is a real pity because the OTP really had amazing chemistry but that ship for me sank with the repeated abuse. I felt WX deserved better and I wanted her to find a simpler, less tormented man. I would for sure have dropped it if I didn't find the rest interesting.

This is one example where the big mistake was to make the writer the screenwriter. All of the issues wiht the drama rests squarely with her writing and she is trying to blame the actors. In reality she has no clue how to adapt a novel into a screenplay. Joy of Life is the opposite example where the writer is making all the right changes, to the point even book readers are surprised and delighted. The show doesn't click for me but it is far more successful than RN for that reason. I am watching ROP now which is a similar story but the big difference is I really care about the characters and I feel they had a life worth living. This writer destroyed alll of her characters along the way. Had they been able to take this to the novel conclusion, I wouldn't even have been moved or that sad at the rate it was going. A better screenwriter would have really made RN into a huge hit.

Huh - LM AO at that! This writer has zero EQ. Not only did emperor steal the show, SHE is the one that is undeserving of any audience love!!!

I still have very mixed feelings about this... now that I am done my alcohol consumption has fallen off a cliff.

LOL - I am sure there is a fortune to be made for anyone who can understand the Chinese censors... its bafflingly ranges from too much cleavage to too evil whatever that means! I don't think L&D was censored btw but it was just so toned down by comparison to TMOPB. If you watch carefully all the 2019 dramas had at least some aspects of self censorship and/or propaganda.

Thanks for the suggestions re: Wallace Chung - I think I will have to watch the expected 2020 Invisible King and also check out the Too Late to Say I Love You. I just don't love war dramas but you intrigued me, I want to meet this actor! Also, I hear you on Tiffany she is so gorgeous but only just a so-so actress.

TMOPB is much, much spicier than L&D. L&D had the misfortune to be produced in 2019 the year of extreme censorship due to the Communist Party 70th anniversary. I am sure they self edited a bunch of stuff out in order to be able to air.

Ah, I didn't know this Wallace - any good ones you suggest? I don't like modern drama... Maybe you will have to let me know if General & I is tolerable...

And one that doesn't cry so much while we are at it.

I thought it was a good and realistic ending everything considered. But watch it and decide for yourself.

Considering the show is heavy and sad the whole way through, it kind of doesn't matter that much how it ends. The ending was a bit messy, had some happy bits but is ultimately open to your own intrepetration.

Indeed, work is not work when you are having fun!!!

I agree life is sad enough no need to seek tragedy which is why I avoided ROP for a long time. I am glad however that I am watching it now - so far I am enthralled. I know it ends badly but I expect it so I think it will be fine. I am gonna check out Love Will Tear Us Apart.

TMOPB was addictive for me. I passed on General & I even though I love Wallace Huo. I just find Angelababy nauseating. She is one of those that is too afraid to act in case she gets caught looking ugly on camera. Narcissist -imagine calling yourself Angelababy! Enough said!

Be grateful. There are too many flashbacks and fillers. Cutting some of that nonsense will just enhance your viewing experience... Its a good show but infested with fillers. :)